I'm in.
The freebe mods (just your labor) can make a huge improvement on this airgun.
They usually benefit form re-crowning of the barrel.
Polish the breech lead in.
Pin the bolt end or at least turn /grind the cone to a pin.
Port the valve and turn/file a waist in the proper place on the pop valve pin (firing pin to some)
Find a slightly softer trigger spring (Ace hardware less than a buck) and insert an empty cal. 22 brass into the top end of it for a spring guide.
Polish all contact points in the trigger group and on the hammer.
Use small brass washers (ok, not totally freebe but under a buck) to shim the sear and trigger pivot pins and remove the slop.
You can also swap the valve spring for the one you replaced in the trigger group. It is softer than the original valve spring and allows the valve to "pop" faster, thus getting the air down the barrel before the pellet leaves it.
Replace the little metal transfer tube between the valve and breech with a "poly port." this is a very short piece of polyethylene, high pressure tubing usually used in ice makers. Getting it just the right length and shaping the ends right for a good seal takes a little fiddle faddle but it is worth the effort.
All of this should cost less than 4 bucks and you will notice a substantial improvement in accuracy, especially when using heavier pellets.
A pic of my favorite 1377 although it now sports a slightly longer barrel......
Okay. So, where are the instructions/pictures?
Okay. So, where are the instructions/pictures?
I'm just here to whistle and brush rocks out of the way in a circular motion with the tip of my shoe.
While I'm occupied, you may want to check the link in my sig.
John: You are the first person to do every mod known to man to a 1377. :D
Nice shooter you got there.
OOH am I tempted.....
CW
OOH am I tempted.....
CW
Do it, you know you want too. Everyone is doing it, do you wanna be left out?(Peer pressure)
OOH am I tempted.....
CW
Do it, you know you want too. Everyone is doing it, do you wanna be left out?(Peer pressure)
Your SO right... P.A. should have it here Thursday... :o ;D ;D ;D ;D
SO whats the first mod?? Flat top piston? Spring/Trigger work??
CW
Where do those beezer black pump arms come from AND how/where do I order one?
Where do those beezer black pump arms come from AND how/where do I order one?
Order directly from crosman. Part #1389-025. $8 and some change plus $4 shipping
Some really nice 1377's here.Done? Ha ha ha...
Mine is close to being where I want it.
So far I have done the steel breech, trigger cleanup and lighter spring, rifle stock, and a Bug Buster scope.
Waiting on ft valve and piston and an extended bolt from Mellon and once that is installed I want to fab up wood stock and pump handle.
Then it might be done?
Here's an Idea:
How about just using eun-jin pellets and pumping it up a shitload of times. Combined with all those fancy mods, you should be able to get some pretty decent range out of that thing, don't you think? Most of those .177 pellets are somewhere between 7-10 grains, but rumour has it the 16.1 grainers give you a .031 BC :o. Could you reach out to 100 yards with that (and enough velocity at the muzzle)?
sand.
hello people...new here from jupiter fl......bought a new 1322 and starting to mod it
#looking to order a 12" or 14" barrel from crosman...anyone know the part numbers?...I think its 2289-001 for the 12" and 2250-019 for the 14"........I dont really want a rifle so I might stick with the 12" and use mellons 4" muzzle break
hello people...new here from jupiter fl......bought a new 1322 and starting to mod it
#1 bought a super pumper forearm from R&B going to paint it with duri-color truck bed liner paint has like a orange peel finish with satin black color
#2 just got the crosman steel breech today from @#$%^.com $42 shipped (darn good price)
#looking to order a 12" or 14" barrel from crosman...anyone know the part numbers?...I think its 2289-001 for the 12" and 2250-019 for the 14"........I dont really want a rifle so I might stick with the 12" and use mellons 4" muzzle break
looking for ideas for a red dot scope maybe this one NcStar 1X25 Red and Green Dot Reflex Sight / Weaver and 3/8" its cheap and has darn good reviews
I just turned 65 and cant use steel sights worth a darn anymore...lol
hello people...new here from jupiter fl......bought a new 1322 and starting to mod it
#1 bought a super pumper forearm from R&B going to paint it with duri-color truck bed liner paint has like a orange peel finish with satin black color
#2 just got the crosman steel breech today from @#$%^.com $42 shipped (darn good price)
#looking to order a 12" or 14" barrel from crosman...anyone know the part numbers?...I think its 2289-001 for the 12" and 2250-019 for the 14"........I dont really want a rifle so I might stick with the 12" and use mellons 4" muzzle break
looking for ideas for a red dot scope maybe this one NcStar 1X25 Red and Green Dot Reflex Sight / Weaver and 3/8" its cheap and has darn good reviews
I just turned 65 and cant use steel sights worth a darn anymore...lol
Well, I'd reccomend the 14", since the standard barrel is 10.5" another inch and a half won't really make a big difference. And the stock sights are worthless, I just turned 17 and I can barely use them ;) The front blade is just way too thick for me. I'd buy something else than NcStar, though. Their sights aren't exactly known for their legendary quality. For 10 bucks more you could get something like a Walther competition II, which are way better.
Sandman.
lol gotcha.......now you get the trophy for the longest muzzle break on record
weird the forum would let me quote millipede...it said o external links allowed..hey!?
Looks good Baltimore
Me likes the TKO
My first 1377 build, I went with a 18 barrel and some parts off a old 760. I have a new breach on the way but as of now this thing is a tack driver at 30ft. I cut the barrel and did the crown, it was a 24 to start with.
(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/4/7/5/0/a5754622-142-P1020008.jpg)
(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/4/7/5/0/a5754620-1-P1020006.jpg)
well just ordered the tippman 98 stock from ebay and the coupler, long probe bolt, muzzle brake, from mellon and the 14" barrel from crosman and the BSA 30mm red dot from amazon
nice pictures you guys are posting
The Wife's first three shots at 33ft I have changed the scope out as she didnt like the Tasco
(http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/2/4/7/5/0/a5755570-243-P1020012.jpg)
is it ok to post here or should i have started my own thread on my buildThe way I read it, the title is an open invitation.
is it ok to post here or should i have started my own thread on my buildThe way I read it, the title is an open invitation.
I'd like to know how well bedliner works on the plastic grips and stocks. I really enjoy build threads... if you have the time, fire one up!
Here are mine.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img109/4527/dscn2284v.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img812/4426/dscn2259g.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img27/1576/dscn2206f.jpg)
is it ok to post here or should i have started my own thread on my buildThe way I read it, the title is an open invitation.
I'd like to know how well bedliner works on the plastic grips and stocks. I really enjoy build threads... if you have the time, fire one up!
Thats the way I read it too
The Bedliner paint works much better than expected simply amazing.... Ends up being a satin finish orange peal....... And the best part is that the pumper makes it so easy to pump like night and day.......i'm thinking seriously about doing the hand grips also to match perfect.......seems very very durable also...time will tell
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g467/nickwild6/IMG_20130506_164948_679_zps2428c52d.jpg)
is it ok to post here or should i have started my own thread on my buildThe way I read it, the title is an open invitation.
I'd like to know how well bedliner works on the plastic grips and stocks. I really enjoy build threads... if you have the time, fire one up!
Thats the way I read it too
The Bedliner paint works much better than expected simply amazing.... Ends up being a satin finish orange peal....... And the best part is that the pumper makes it so easy to pump like night and day.......i'm thinking seriously about doing the hand grips also to match perfect.......seems very very durable also...time will tell
(http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g467/nickwild6/IMG_20130506_164948_679_zps2428c52d.jpg)
I like your forearm, who makes thatRalph's
Here are mine.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img812/4426/dscn2259g.jpg)
F.n.g needs some advice here:
After seeing all these beautifully modded 1377's, I'm dying to build one myself, but there are some problems :-\
1) Crosman is an American company, so obviously all nuts and bolts are going to be in Brittish/American sizes, which isn't a problem for most because they are from the U.S./U.K. but getting tools for them here in mainland Europe certainly isn't easy. What tools do I need, and in what sizes?
2) I'm not exactly skilled in working with metal, so do I need to drill stuff out when fitting mods like a flat-top valve/piston kit, a steel breech, an extended probe, a 24" barrel, steel pivot pin and metal barrel band, or is it just a matter of unscrewing some bolts and replacing some parts, and putting it back together? By the way, I'm ordering all my mods from gmac custom parts in Brittain.
Here are mine.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img109/4527/dscn2284v.jpg)
Here are mine.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img812/4426/dscn2259g.jpg)
Wow, what mods does that one have? Chrony results?
Here are mine.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img109/4527/dscn2284v.jpg)
what has your experience been with those intermounts? are those the Crosman 459MT ones?
Well I am humbled by Ernesto's..
But this is on 1377 Carbine...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20guns/Crosman%201377/null_zps922c5e13.jpg)
Flat Top Valve and Piston (volume increased and port angled 100% e vac @ 20 pumps)
Pinned Valve
Brass safety
Solid Pin
17'' Crosman Discovery barrel (I cut and crowned)
Barrel is lock tite into steel breech
Ultra Dot scope
Crosman Steel Breech
Crosman Stock
2 1/2# Trigger job (Polish all contact points brite & smooth)
Lighter sear spring
Looking for a metal barrel band in brite Brass.
CW
For crowning IIRC Midway has one or two... ;) ;)
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cutting+a+rifle+barrel&oq=cutting+a+rifle+barrel&gs_l=youtube.1.0.0.1626.6923.0.9087.22.11.0.11.11.0.121.912.9j2.11.0...0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube.kPgzDYfS13M (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cutting+a+rifle+barrel&oq=cutting+a+rifle+barrel&gs_l=youtube.1.0.0.1626.6923.0.9087.22.11.0.11.11.0.121.912.9j2.11.0...0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube.kPgzDYfS13M)
I have always don't it with a length of tape and a hack saw. It takes practice to stay square. I then true it with a good file in the vice. This time it was short and small enough That I was able to chuck it up in my drill press and true it with a file while spinning.
For crowning, I use my batt drill with a brass round headed wood screw and some valve grinding paste. Go slow and make ever changing circles otherwise you will get a trapezoidal cut. :o :o :o Go slow speed, the steel is VERY soft!
Intimidating the first time, but not very hard and as I say, made easier as the steel is soft!
Good luck.
PM any time I'll help as I can, from here. ;)
CW
Ok, Ernesto, spill the beans. How did you do all the different colors? You can tell us. You're among friends. :P
as usual ...........lots of sweet guns being shown here
Ernesto is that the mellon stock coupler holding on that folding tippsmann?
Ok, Ernesto, spill the beans. How did you do all the different colors? You can tell us. You're among friends. :P
Lol.... No secret here silent, I spray paint and clear my guns. It's alot of work but it keeps me busy and I really enjoy it.
Well I am humbled by Ernesto's..
But this is on 1377 Carbine...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20guns/Crosman%201377/null_zps922c5e13.jpg)
Flat Top Valve and Piston (volume increased and port angled 100% e vac @ 20 pumps)
Pinned Valve
Brass safety
Solid Pin
17'' Crosman Discovery barrel (I cut and crowned)
Barrel is lock tite into steel breech
Ultra Dot scope
Crosman Steel Breech
Crosman Stock
2 1/2# Trigger job (Polish all contact points brite & smooth)
Lighter sear spring
Looking for a metal barrel band in brite Brass.
CW
Well I am humbled by Ernesto's..
But this is on 1377 Carbine...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/CWLONGSHOT/Temp%20stuff/sporting%20pics/Air%20guns/Crosman%201377/null_zps922c5e13.jpg)
Flat Top Valve and Piston (volume increased and port angled 100% e vac @ 20 pumps)
Pinned Valve
Brass safety
Solid Pin
17'' Crosman Discovery barrel (I cut and crowned)
Barrel is lock tite into steel breech
Ultra Dot scope
Crosman Steel Breech
Crosman Stock
2 1/2# Trigger job (Polish all contact points brite & smooth)
Lighter sear spring
Looking for a metal barrel band in brite Brass.
CW
Have you checked these barrel bands out, CW? http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=46438.msg434237;topicseen#new (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=46438.msg434237;topicseen#new)
Just finished this one. Her name is Mary Jane.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img594/3471/dscn2314s.jpg)
Ok, Ernesto, spill the beans. How did you do all the different colors? You can tell us. You're among friends. :P
Lol.... No secret here silent, I spray paint and clear my guns. It's alot of work but it keeps me busy and I really enjoy it.
What paint do you use? I assume you primer as well? Rattle can or airbrush?
Ok, Ernesto, spill the beans. How did you do all the different colors? You can tell us. You're among friends. :P
Lol.... No secret here silent, I spray paint and clear my guns. It's alot of work but it keeps me busy and I really enjoy it.
What paint do you use? I assume you primer as well? Rattle can or airbrush?
Rattle cans. Strip and sand the metal first, then DupliColor etching primer, Rustolium paint, then Rustolium matte clear.
Looks cool Ern.
I like the skeleton AK stock.
Nice choice of color too!
Does anybody know if the barrel from the 1389 will fit a 1377? If so, what is the length of the 1389 barrel (part # 1389-003)?
Here's mine.
Not quite finished yet, but it sure is fun to shoot.
Wood grips, flat top piston, Mellonair flow through bolt and wide blade brass trigger, leapers red dot sight.
Here is my 1322 backpacker creation.
Cr. Steel breech
Prod barrel and shroud
Storey LDC
Flat-top piston and ported valve
secondhand custom brass trigger
PVC breech riser
Polly tube transferport
Drilled and taped a new (small) breech screw.
1399 stock with a riser pad/stock pocket I have been working on..
Next step will be new bolt probe and a hammer spring adjuster... but I'm in no rush, this thing is hot enough as it is..
(http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeremiahcjones/9483949395/in/set-72157635025902886/lightbox/)
17'' Crosman Discovery barrel (I cut and crowned)
CW
17'' Crosman Discovery barrel (I cut and crowned)
CW
Can you point me to a HOW To on crowning a barrel? Thanks
So let me throw an idea in there. Let's take modding to it's absolute extremes.. Let's make a ridiculously powerful 1377. Say I'd want 1500 fps (with 7.9 grain = 39.5fpe) out of this, which I figure would take something like 35 pumps, what mods would I need except for a:
- 24" barrel
- flat top valve/piston
- strongers hammer spring
- spring guide
- extended probe
Also, could I get everything I need at gmac?
sand.
Just carved some new wood for my 1377 out of red oak! (http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee54/philo426/7103c8ac-99a7-4150-a477-2fcafe05e4e5_zps3cf7d6e8.jpg) (http://s235.photobucket.com/user/philo426/media/7103c8ac-99a7-4150-a477-2fcafe05e4e5_zps3cf7d6e8.jpg.html)
Good stuff there Bill. What grips are they and is that a Bluefork barrel band?I got the grips here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crosman-2240-grips-/301064106808?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4618d1b338 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crosman-2240-grips-/301064106808?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4618d1b338)
Here is where my 1377 is now. .20 cal lothar barrel and assorted goodies.
(http://s20.postimg.org/4z1rqyoe5/Camera_ZOOM_20131221142603022.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/tsbbrm7eh/full/)
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Reintroducing "Goldfinger".
:)
(http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae272/ezman604/SAM_0228.jpg)
Need a newer picture. Now sporting a carbon fiber look TKO instead of the useless front blade.
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=10749.msg90889#msg90889 (http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=10749.msg90889#msg90889)
SAFE & Happy Shooting!!!!
Dave
8)
Here is where my 1377 is now. .20 cal lothar barrel and assorted goodies.
(http://s20.postimg.org/4z1rqyoe5/Camera_ZOOM_20131221142603022.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/tsbbrm7eh/full/)
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Gots the usual flat top piston valve. 1701 trigger group, bluefork pump pivot, the shroud and flat top are from accustoms. I picked up the barrel off the yellow.Haven't really checked the speed it's shooting but as far as accuracy it does pretty good. I don't have much room to shoot but this is at 45' off the bench in my backyard.
(http://s20.postimg.org/3oai2h20t/Camera_ZOOM_20131215145447024.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/8a6matnjt/full/)
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"The Finisher" Thanks to nervoustrigger for the pivot pin he made me
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1377 pcp, set up currently to shoot 10.34JSB's at 880fps...capable of 940fps with these pellets. It's not a looker, but it's my favourite pc rig ...weighs only 3.5 pounds unscoped and will shoot sub 1inch groups at 55 yards consistently.
(http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa378/Froggyroggy/P1030601.jpg) (http://s1194.photobucket.com/user/Froggyroggy/media/P1030601.jpg.html)
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa397/squallywally/IMG_0232_zps0db20aca.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/squallywally/media/IMG_0232_zps0db20aca.jpg.html)
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa397/squallywally/56A6047C-7D32-4DA6-9F5E-C62AF8BF4916-18580-000010BA42D809FA.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/squallywally/media/56A6047C-7D32-4DA6-9F5E-C62AF8BF4916-18580-000010BA42D809FA.jpg.html)
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa397/squallywally/D30BC778-25F3-48FA-8741-1C18F8305FF1-18390-0000109F4912D8F6.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/squallywally/media/D30BC778-25F3-48FA-8741-1C18F8305FF1-18390-0000109F4912D8F6.jpg.html)
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa397/squallywally/IMG_0418_zps2258c1e0.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/squallywally/media/IMG_0418_zps2258c1e0.jpg.html)
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa397/squallywally/IMG_2298_zps9482deb1.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/squallywally/media/IMG_2298_zps9482deb1.jpg.html)
This is my 1377 project so far.
(http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w576/bilbrown1951/Pistol_Holster_Scope_zpsa611ba74.jpg) Before backpacker stock added.
(http://i1330.photobucket.com/albums/w576/bilbrown1951/1377-with-new-rifle-stock_zps70fbee13.jpg)
I plan on a metal barrel band, a 14" barrel, and a different foregrip. I want to replace all the plastic on the gun. I have already modified the trigger pull. The scope is a UTG 3-9x32 CQB Bug Buster with adjustable AO.
What is the hole for in the front of that Blue Fork barrel band? I've noticed that on a few different types and now that I have a 2289 I still can't see what it's there on some bands/plugs.
What is the hole for in the front of that Blue Fork barrel band?
What is the hole for in the front of that Blue Fork barrel band?
If I'm not mistaken, I think (?) it's to tighten/loosen a set screw that "locks" the pin in place.
EDIT: JM91012 beat me to it! ;D
Thanks! You guy were pretty fast on that one, how about this:
Where did I leave my car keys last night?
:D
How about 13xx owners: get in here. Yes, I like the pumpers.
How about 13xx owners: get in here. Yes, I like the pumpers.
Reviving this thread. I just got back into Air Guns (at 49) and dug this old pumper out.
It's one of the original 1389's. I lost the stock so when I put the order in to Crosman I got both a 24" barrel and the 1399 Stock.
Here it is in original state:
(http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=45838.0;attach=81828;image)
Here is is after the 24" barrel, shoulder stock and a $19 scope from ebay
(http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=45838.0;attach=81830;image)
Looking good so far my man!!! Welcome back to the hobby. Looking forward to seeing more updates!
Looking good so far my man!!! Welcome back to the hobby. Looking forward to seeing more updates!
Thanks - I picked up a used Webley Vulcan from a guy in Towson just to shoot with my son (has a Big Cat). Now I got my old guns out, bought 3 Beeman P17's and am looking at getting a 2400Kt from the custom shop, and eventually get a HiPAc for it.
I got a 2400kt and did a few small mods to it and love it. I don't mind using it with c02. Super accurate too.
my 2289(http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=45838.0;attach=81830;image)
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/stonykill/DSCF3485-001_zpsc67be1d6.jpg)
Sounds like a good score. Is it a phase I, II, or III? Pictures would be a +
Plinker you have, from what I can tell in the pictures, a phase III. Look on the left side and find the serial number. The first 3 numbers will tell you when it was made. like 313 would be March 2013. Good find. 8) 8)Sounds like a good score. Is it a phase I, II, or III? Pictures would be a +
Please excuse my very cluttered desk but here are some cell quickies:(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/capri331/Shooting/Air%20Power/Crosman/1377AC/IMG_20140515_233126_zps1ikjwgdo.jpg) (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/capri331/media/Shooting/Air%20Power/Crosman/1377AC/IMG_20140515_233126_zps1ikjwgdo.jpg.html)
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/capri331/Shooting/Air%20Power/Crosman/1377AC/IMG_20140515_233152_zpstxclazfo.jpg) (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/capri331/media/Shooting/Air%20Power/Crosman/1377AC/IMG_20140515_233152_zpstxclazfo.jpg.html)
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b203/capri331/Shooting/Air%20Power/Crosman/1377AC/IMG_20140515_233059_zpsdtrktoih.jpg) (http://s20.photobucket.com/user/capri331/media/Shooting/Air%20Power/Crosman/1377AC/IMG_20140515_233059_zpsdtrktoih.jpg.html)
Here`s mine nothing done inside as i don`t shoot itNice piece.
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o703/brzrider/1377_zps50ef137a.jpg) (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/brzrider/media/1377_zps50ef137a.jpg.html)
Is that a bsa dot ? How do you like it ?
Seeing what you guys have done almost makes me embarrassed about mine ( all I did was lighten the trigger spring,mod the front sight, and accent the checkered areas of the stocks with black paint ) I do want to do more with it though.
*PRICELESS*
Please tell me that lovely lass's age.
I'm agog at some of the fantastic builds here. Clearly there's a cult following for this highly modifiable pistol. Amazing!I'll tell you like I did my Son-in-Laws.
Rebuilt my 30+ year old 1377 last year and it has been a pleasure being able to shoot and hunt with it again.
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee226/scooterlizard/0311151033c-1.jpg) (http://s232.photobucket.com/user/scooterlizard/media/0311151033c-1.jpg.html)
Rebuilt my 30+ year old 1377 last year and it has been a pleasure being able to shoot and hunt with it again.
(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee226/scooterlizard/0311151033c-1.jpg) (http://s232.photobucket.com/user/scooterlizard/media/0311151033c-1.jpg.html)
What kind of scope is that?
It's an Aim Sports 2x7 42mm mildot pistol scope.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AIM-SPORTS-2-7x42-Long-Eye-Relief-Pistol-Scout-Scope-w-Rings-Mil-Dot-Reticle-/141922607495?hash=item210b3f2187 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/AIM-SPORTS-2-7x42-Long-Eye-Relief-Pistol-Scout-Scope-w-Rings-Mil-Dot-Reticle-/141922607495?hash=item210b3f2187)
It's an Aim Sports 2x7 42mm mildot pistol scope.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AIM-SPORTS-2-7x42-Long-Eye-Relief-Pistol-Scout-Scope-w-Rings-Mil-Dot-Reticle-/141922607495?hash=item210b3f2187 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/AIM-SPORTS-2-7x42-Long-Eye-Relief-Pistol-Scout-Scope-w-Rings-Mil-Dot-Reticle-/141922607495?hash=item210b3f2187)
And you like?
Sure looks sweet from here. Always liked mil-dot scopes.
It's an Aim Sports 2x7 42mm mildot pistol scope.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AIM-SPORTS-2-7x42-Long-Eye-Relief-Pistol-Scout-Scope-w-Rings-Mil-Dot-Reticle-/141922607495?hash=item210b3f2187 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/AIM-SPORTS-2-7x42-Long-Eye-Relief-Pistol-Scout-Scope-w-Rings-Mil-Dot-Reticle-/141922607495?hash=item210b3f2187)
And you like?
Sure looks sweet from here. Always liked mil-dot scopes.
Love it, you can see the whiskers on a squirrel at 20yds with it. I can shoot a 2 inch group at 50yds when I am plinking. I couldn't see the original sights anymore. So I scoped it when I rebuilt it last year. What difference it made.
Here's mine
phase 2 1377
Mods:
Backpacker pump arm
Accustoms flat top piston
mellonair flat top valve
Gmac threaded brass barrel band with sight
10.1" lw barrel
Arkmaker short aluminum left hand breech
Alchemy airwerks transfer port
mellonair stainless steel extended probe bolt
mellonair solid pivot pin
duracote black gloss paint
homemade ldc
Bluefork ar gripframe ar-15 grip
...mmmmmm,.....Guinness......
I'm fixing to assemble mine, after I get the barrel back. Here's what I've done:
A.C. Customs flat top piston
Mellon Air Flat top valve
Prod trigger group
Crosman barrel (going to be shortened)
Blue Fork Designs barrel band (w/o front sight)
Steel breech
2289 pump arm
Crosman stock
Threaded LDC adapter
Mellon Air pivot pin
Simple build, to say the least.
I'm fixing to assemble mine, after I get the barrel back. Here's what I've done:
A.C. Customs flat top piston
Mellon Air Flat top valve
Prod trigger group
Crosman barrel (going to be shortened)
Blue Fork Designs barrel band (w/o front sight)
Steel breech
2289 pump arm
Crosman stock
Threaded LDC adapter
Mellon Air pivot pin
Simple build, to say the least.
Nothing wrong with that build. If you've never installed a p-rod trigger group before, make sure you fill the hammer groove or get a solid hammer. I had to file the sear slightly to clear the compression tube.
If you find the 1399 stock a bit wobbly, you can add a 3rd screw underneath which makes it rock-solid. Drilled & tapped same thread as the grip screws (#6-32?)
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd418/JMJinNC/Air%20Power/IMG_4595.jpg) (http://s1218.photobucket.com/user/JMJinNC/media/Air%20Power/IMG_4595.jpg.html)
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd418/JMJinNC/Air%20Power/IMG_4597.jpg) (http://s1218.photobucket.com/user/JMJinNC/media/Air%20Power/IMG_4597.jpg.html)
Will this work?
(http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag124/josephb1969/VZM.IMG_20160519_224117_zpsaik5vioa.jpg)
A little up and down at the pivot. No wiggle if I try to pull it into the extended position.
Joe
A little up and down at the pivot. No wiggle if I try to pull it into the extended position.
Joe
Up and down when moving into position isn't a problem. I was wondering about when it is already extended and you have it shouldered, does it move then?
A little up and down at the pivot. No wiggle if I try to pull it into the extended position.
Joe
Up and down when moving into position isn't a problem. I was wondering about when it is already extended and you have it shouldered, does it move then?
Oh no, no wiggle whatsoever.
A little up and down at the pivot. No wiggle if I try to pull it into the extended position.
Joe
Up and down when moving into position isn't a problem. I was wondering about when it is already extended and you have it shouldered, does it move then?
Oh no, no wiggle whatsoever.
OK, thanks. I've got a 1377 that I want to carry behind the truck seat, and this should make it short enough.
Thanks!
http://www.gmaccustomparts.com/epages/BT3197.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/BT3197/Categories/Wire_Stocks__Adaptors (http://www.gmaccustomparts.com/epages/BT3197.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/BT3197/Categories/Wire_Stocks__Adaptors)
Ok so I'll get the steel breech. Are there any better sight options besides the LPA? $42 seems pretty expensive for what it is.
Well I joined the club. The order has been placed. 1377 should be here sometime next week. Let the games begin.
I have two Phase II 1377's...leaving them stock.
top one was made in March 1982...bottom one in October 1981 (new unfired)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman%201377%20Phase%20II%20Oct%201981_Mar%201982_zpstdsrfmg0.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman%201377%20Phase%20II%20Oct%201981_zpsk45jq8my.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman%201377%20Phase%20II%20Oct%201981_2_zpsvrmlte0i.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman%201377%20Phase%20II%20Oct%201981_3_zpseshmpex6.jpg)
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/rws53/BB_Pellet%20Guns%202/Crosman%201377%20Phase%20II%20Oct%201981_4_zpsvyqhxme8.jpg)
Questions for you 1377's. I am looking at the 1300KT in .22, I see a lot of talk about flat top piston and valves. Where do you guys get yours from? I was thinking about getting a PCP but there's too many items needed to be worth while for me.http://mellonair.myfreesites.net/ (http://mellonair.myfreesites.net/) He makes very good products at a reasonable price. I use them & like them.
Questions for you 1377's. I am looking at the 1300KT in .22, I see a lot of talk about flat top piston and valves. Where do you guys get yours from? I was thinking about getting a PCP but there's too many items needed to be worth while for me.http://mellonair.myfreesites.net/ (http://mellonair.myfreesites.net/) He makes very good products at a reasonable price. I use them & like them.
The bicycle stem is the butt stock. Amiright?OH JEEZE... I been looking for a Bicycle TIRE valve stem...
The dishwasher drain is the convoluted tubing over the barrel that looks like cooling fins... but I must be the only idiot who cant find the bike valve stemNot electrical tape - it's a black plastic screw knob. I have them on several guns. I like the feel of a larger toggle end.
Unless it's the bolt handle that looks like a wad of electrical tape. ???
bought a 1300kt in .177 with the 14" LW barrell + TKO. I have a 5meter makeshift range behind my desk in the office.Ok, you just went all the way to the top of my HERO list.
I have a 5meter makeshift range behind my desk in the office.Tomorrow I am measuring my office!
Getting in a little late here... guess I have about 10 of them.Just WOW !!!
some of the earlier ones:
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/Gunz/gunz1_zps706c1875.jpg)
a couple stragglers:
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/Gunz/finished4_zpsa0985f3b.jpg)
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/Gunz/finished2_zps4xwmqvth.jpg)
Four calibers in all - .177, .20, .22, and .25 - with LW barrels.
Got a little bored and made a.22 cal into pcp mode:
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/Gunz/Finished1_zpshr52uv0h.jpg)
It has a power adjuster, sling-shot hammer, more valve volume, etc.. and one of my best LW barrels. Four recharge pumps gets 5.2 fpe. I haven't really shot it very much after it was tuned, but I'll get back to it :D
Wyo
Getting in a little late here... guess I have about 10 of them.That is so cool I've never seen anything like that. I don't envy anybody but those
some of the earlier ones:
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/Gunz/gunz1_zps706c1875.jpg)
a couple stragglers:
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/Gunz/finished4_zpsa0985f3b.jpg)
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/Gunz/finished2_zps4xwmqvth.jpg)
Four calibers in all - .177, .20, .22, and .25 - with LW barrels.
Got a little bored and made a.22 cal into pcp mode:
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/Gunz/Finished1_zpshr52uv0h.jpg)
It has a power adjuster, sling-shot hammer, more valve volume, etc.. and one of my best LW barrels. Four recharge pumps gets 5.2 fpe. I haven't really shot it very much after it was tuned, but I'll get back to it :D
Wyo
Do the 1377's and the 2240's use the same barrel?
Also very nice! Is it that easy to put a 760 tube on a 77 grip frame? Plug and play? Or were alterations made?
Yaaa Buuddy..
I read up on the fancy wood stock version... So sexy and cool.
You've a great lot their... Wowzer.
Huge drool here.
Researching around this morning and found this thread. Pretty awesome indeed.
So I run out to the shop and dug around for my ole 1377...
Rough as a corn cob.. :o LOL... :-X
I acquired the little gun around 1986 or 1987..hummm... in a trade from a friend. It was very used to say the least before I got it.
Being a kid..I packed it everywhere and shot a ton of BB's threw it.
The seal went south and it sat around for years.
Somewhere along the lines I picked up a 760 that the stock was scrunched.....
So That being said..I got pondering the two one day sitting next to each other in a corner..
And hence my first Mods to an airgun of combining the two...
Way before I even knew of such things could be done.
The 77 received the valving and barrel off and out of the 760.
Worked the charm really..shot a little to the right ..But I remembered to compensate or Dope for it...ahahaha..
What I thought was a good idea for clean up at the time....was a quick scuff and some black paint... Ugh.. Kids.
Any whooo.. I'm thinking about donating this free to someone.
It really needs a good home. Not a cold garage corner. Is it worth the clean up and Love ?
Still pumps and shoots.
Pretty sure I have a started custom grip for it somewhere with the original Barrel also.
Or just talk me into maybe refurbishing it.. Could be a fun little project actually..
It's had a interesting life to say the least..
(http://www.scale4x4rc.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=104242&stc=1&d=1511436948)
Also very nice! Is it that easy to put a 760 tube on a 77 grip frame? Plug and play? Or were alterations made?
None of the tube swaps were P&P.
Depending on the tube used the 4-48 breech hole has to be drilled and tapped, most require the transfer port hole to be relocated,
hammer and trigger slot rework etc but not too difficult. They all have 766 NOS pump links.
The 66 tube has a 4" x 5/8" stroke and gets 750 FPS (9.81 FPE) on 10 pumps with the 21 1/2" Challenger barrel.
I use H&N Barracuda 9.65 grain Hunter Extreme pellets in this gun and 10 pumps= 704 FPS (10.53 FPE).
The MK tube has a 4" x 3/4" stroke and gets 676 FPS (14.51 FPE) on 10 pumps with the 18" LW (Air Force) barrel.
With 15 pumps it gets 791 FPS (19.86 FPE).
Would be nice if P&P upgrade tubes were available.
does anyone have a problem with the 1377 in cold weather,not even really cold....40-45 degrees
like....the pump arm goes "limp" and it won't hold air....when it warms up,it's fine again :-\
i am guessing the pump cup or something shrinks? but that seems like an awful lot of shrinkage
does anyone have a problem with the 1377 in cold weather,not even really cold....40-45 degrees
like....the pump arm goes "limp" and it won't hold air....when it warms up,it's fine again :-\
i am guessing the pump cup or something shrinks? but that seems like an awful lot of shrinkage
well,i suppose it's more that it doesn't push air into the valve in the first placedoes anyone have a problem with the 1377 in cold weather,not even really cold....40-45 degrees
like....the pump arm goes "limp" and it won't hold air....when it warms up,it's fine again :-\
i am guessing the pump cup or something shrinks? but that seems like an awful lot of shrinkage
Won't hold air in the valve ?
I had this when I put too much grease into the pump tube. Seems like it's getting into the checkvalve then and hinders it from closing properly.(OK, I also have a softer as standard valve spring, so this is possibly no common problem)
Or is the pump cup leaking ? (Pumping works better if you pump faster)
But since you also tell the pump lever drops it's more likeley the rubber cup.
2beers, the serial number tells the age, the first few digits are the date of manufacture 1-9 in the first digit is the month numerically then O for October, N for November and D for December (not always the case, but normally) then the year, the picture is a touch too small to tell from where I am.
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Huge thanks ranger
Numbers 084029437
So 1984 would be correct..Yes ?
Just had to build one more pumper. Standard transfer port so far shoots 620@ 10 pumps, 688@14 pumps (JSB 7.33)
1720 Barrel & shroud, 760 pump arm, Mountainair FT piston & valve, Baker breech riser, Tippman folding stock W/ Mellon adapter.
"with a little help from my friends"...........
Recently 2Beers donated an old manual cock 1377 to me, and BrEtT donated some parts to me, and I tried a little restoration project.
I'm happy with it.
Here's before and after....
(http://i.imgur.com/AAcQnVA.jpg) (https://imgur.com/AAcQnVA)
(http://i.imgur.com/CsmBKcT.jpg) (https://imgur.com/CsmBKcT)
Great people on GTA!
and Kris, yours is a beaut!
Nice camo!
and Kris, yours is a beaut!
Nice camo!
Thanks, the camo was done by David of www.alchemyairwerks.com (http://www.alchemyairwerks.com). He has a lot of 13xx goodies to dress up the guns with.
That looks like a really good bullet list Doug. My build is similar to it. :D
As the video shows, the easiest way to deal with the trigger spring and ball is to do it with the frame off, it's just 2 screws but will save you at least 5 minutes of screwing around... if not a bunch of cussing :)
Sweet! I think mine is somewhere in this post already ???
Read the amazon post on the 1322 sale, and to me it will cost another $200. or so LOL
As the video shows, the easiest way to deal with the trigger spring and ball is to do it with the frame off, it's just 2 screws but will save you at least 5 minutes of screwing around... if not a bunch of cussing :)
Do you mean the tiny safety indexing spring? I did notice that in the video. That way, with the safety pin in place, you can just drop the ball bearing in the hole, put the spring in after it, and put the frame back on.
As the video shows, the easiest way to deal with the trigger spring and ball is to do it with the frame off, it's just 2 screws but will save you at least 5 minutes of screwing around... if not a bunch of cussing :)
Do you mean the tiny safety indexing spring? I did notice that in the video. That way, with the safety pin in place, you can just drop the ball bearing in the hole, put the spring in after it, and put the frame back on.
I glued the ball with Krazy Glue. Have done this simple mod a long time ago with my previous Crosmans.
Just got this adapter from Poland yesterday. Splendid piece and incredible machining and finish:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SILENCER-ADAPTER-1-2-20-UNF-Benjamin-Discovery-Crosman-2240-11-11mm-cut/173288399186?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/SILENCER-ADAPTER-1-2-20-UNF-Benjamin-Discovery-Crosman-2240-11-11mm-cut/173288399186?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649)
Richard, how long did it take to get it,after ordering? I'm worse than a kid waiting for Christmas!
Richard, how long did it take to get it,after ordering? I'm worse than a kid waiting for Christmas!
Mr. Wendell, it arrived in the US in 3 days but it stayed in NY Customs for quite a while.
I ordered it July 02 and got it only yesterday, so it is exactly 14 days.
It is worth the wait. It is a very well machined piece and the finish is a very deep nitride black with no pale undertones unlike most metals having this kind of finish.
It is hefty though and very solid!
yaaayy for thread resurrection ;D
heres a skull breech plug i made for my 1377,
now its definitely me :)
yaaayy for thread resurrection ;D
heres a skull breech plug i made for my 1377,
now its definitely me :)
How did you make that?
Okay. So, where are the instructions/pictures?
I'm just here to whistle and brush rocks out of the way in a circular motion with the tip of my shoe.
While I'm occupied, you may want to check the link in my sig.
Thanks. I wish I could stumble on another 1377 for $40. I've done the trigger springhy thing already. Perhaps this summer, I can do some other mods? I really want some wood grips and fore end.
(https://i.imgur.com/SDotlmZ.jpg?1)
20 yards; 5 shots (it looks like it's only 3 but it really is 5); JSB 8.4g, 4.52 head; 8 pumps; semi squat position with a low table as bench.
It shoots nice! Well it is a Lothar. Might do better on a proper bench table with sufficient front and rear bags.
So shall I install a BlueFork barrel band from HPA Sports! Perhaps I will because Mr. Greg Schutte might cease production of his wonderful products ;D
Regards everyone!
Chris, I did notice it (HPA) but they did some construction on their site. It's back though.
Also, Mr. Joe, the owner, is a real gent when it come to business dealings.
Regarding my scope, it is a Korean 4-12x Bushnell Engage. Nice thin hashmarks for precision shooting but I find it somewhat busy.
Rick All your projects are stunning, waiting for you to tag a rat or two for us with that work of art.
and your cheek rests on an Ebay padded stock riser and pouch.
Doug, If I wanted somebody to build me a Custom 1322 up and beyond what the CCS can do, I would call Dave at Alchemy Airwerks.
He builds and sells complete guns out of his awesome parts every day. Super guy to talk to and deal with.
http://www.alchemyairwerks.com/store/c16/Complete_Guns.html (http://www.alchemyairwerks.com/store/c16/Complete_Guns.html)
I can't post pics yet :-[
I can't post pics yet :-[
I can't post pics yet :-[
Here is my 1377, nice little gun that I did some internal mods to, a nice little shooter for sure !! Use it to shoot stuff in the back yard when I'm in the mood for a light little fun gun ;- )
(https://photos.imageevent.com/wlleven/k10dtest/downloadphotos/1377%20Rifle%20in%20.22%20sm.png)
wll
Nice project!!
For custom grips I highly recommend Andy Davies in the UK. Excellent workmanship and very reasonable prices.
andy@andrewdavies10.plus.com
:D
Below is an example of Andy's grips that he made for my Webley Tempest.
(https://i.postimg.cc/QNpWh1p2/Tempest-cropped.jpg)
Shot the guy and email and a walnut pump arm is now in the making.
took a closer look at my 1377 vs my newer 1322. Guess which 1 has a head space issue?
took a closer look at my 1377 vs my newer 1322. Guess which 1 has a head space issue?could this cause it to retain air?
Nope... that is caused by weak hammer spring or strong valve spring.took a closer look at my 1377 vs my newer 1322. Guess which 1 has a head space issue?could this cause it to retain air?
Nope... that is caused by weak hammer spring or strong valve spring.took a closer look at my 1377 vs my newer 1322. Guess which 1 has a head space issue?could this cause it to retain air?
Or a combination of both.
Shot the guy and email and a walnut pump arm is now in the making.
Nice! Be sure to post pics when you get it.
As promised:
Dang those grips looks nice. I debated staining my walnut grips but decided to use black india ink to match the pump handle and matt clear paint. It was a shame to cover the wood.