Daisy

[tweedking]

i took the 880 out to the river today. as i walked out around the overflow pond i set up a anti-freeze jug i found out there (our river/lake has a ring of floating trash at the high-water/flood mark). i walked around and shot across the water (Google earth measured as 77 m/~250 ft). daisy hit the jug about 75% of the time with about 1/2 of the front sight for hold-over. I'm impressed. i think this gun could really be impressive.

rob

PS: the pellet went through the first side but not the second. crosman premier hp-tin.

[birdmove]

   Good question. The 499, if I recall correctly, shoots at not quite 300 fps, so distance is a big enemy of that gun.

    Don't forget the Model 499 Avanti Champion BB 5 meter target rifle. I would like to have one of those some day.

I have often wondered just how much oomph you could add to a smoothbore with just the right barrel and ammo for the barrel...

 think it could be  accurate to 15 yards..?

https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2013/03/shooting-the-daisy-avanti-champion-499-at-10-meters/

[lillysdad621]

499 shoots at 275 to 280... and it will shoot far enough to surprise you... but your enemy is more the sight system... it will cover the target.

[stonykill]

  being this thread is the default Daisy Gate, I am linking this short thread to it. A small yet VERY important piece of information on Daisy's. If your Daisy is shooting inconsistent FPS strings, losing air, not pumping to enough pressure etc. Or you JUST want your Daisy to operate up to snuff, check out this very short thread. It should be a sticky on the Daisy gate. 

  http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=63773.0

  and this one from my personal experiences.

  http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=61136.msg585960#msg585960

 

[Alanheal]

Re: Daisy 880: Can someone please clarify?

A few weeks ago I was trying to fix a Daisy 880 and took everything apart but the trigger mechanism. One thing I was looking for, but never found, was the VALVE where air enters the compression chamber. The piston head has no hole in it, nor the did part that fits into the bottom of the compression chamber. Can someone create even a crude drawing to clarify (or at least explain)? Next time I try to fix one of these I hope to have better results.   

[DavidS]

Re: Daisy 880: Can someone please clarify?

A few weeks ago I was trying to fix a Daisy 880 and took everything apart but the trigger mechanism. One thing I was looking for, but never found, was the VALVE where air enters the compression chamber. The piston head has no hole in it, nor the did part that fits into the bottom of the compression chamber. Can someone create even a crude drawing to clarify (or at least explain)? Next time I try to fix one of these I hope to have better results.   

The piston needs to be solid, the air is drawn into the pump tube when the pistin reaches the top of stroke and uncovers a slit in the side of the tube.

The check valve is the rubber and metal assembly that the pistom pushes into as it closes, this alows air into the air chamber though not out.

I hope that this helps.

[Alanheal]

Re: The piston needs to be solid, the air is drawn into the pump tube when the piston reaches the top of stroke and uncovers a slit in the side of the tube.  The check valve is the rubber and metal assembly that the piston pushes into as it closes, this allows air into the air chamber though not out.

Okay, so the check valve is some sort of one-way valve. When I looked at it, I didn't see any opening for air, and that's what was confusing.  Thanks very much!
 

[tweedking]

keep daisy on top!

(sorry for the innuendo...)

rob

[dvtaz]

We do need a forum for Daisy owners/Shooters . I woundn't trade my Red Ryder or 880 for anything. I do most of my shooting at 10 meters and the 880, I bought it new for $35,  shoots dead on even with cheap pellets like the beeman pointed pellets.

[Alanheal]

RE:  The 880, I bought it new for $35,  shoots dead on even with cheap pellets like the beeman pointed pellets.
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                  A friend of mine picked up my Daisy 880 for the first time and exclaimed "It's plastic!"   I said "Yes, but it's powerful and it shoots straighter than guns costing five times as much."   I've always thought that Daisy should make an upscale version with a wood stock (and metal receiver?)  It would be a winner.  Accurate, no recoil, variable velocity, effortless pumping, loves many pellets.  But people want that "real rifle" feel.   

[DavidS]

RE:  The 880, I bought it new for $35,  shoots dead on even with cheap pellets like the beeman pointed pellets.


                  A friend of mine picked up my Daisy 880 for the first time and exclaimed "It's plastic!"   I said "Yes, but it's powerful and it shoots straighter than guns costing five times as much."   I've always thought that Daisy should make an upscale version with a wood stock (and metal receiver?)  It would be a winner.  Accurate, no recoil, variable velocity, effortless pumping, loves many pellets.  But people want that "real rifle" feel.   

I think it is more the association with some of the truly cheapo AirGuns.  If people would actually give the gun a fair shake with out worrying about the amount of plastic they would find it to be one of the best MSP air guns on the market.

People say that they want a wood stock and metal receiver, then if they get it they complain about how heavy it is to lug around when hunting and/or hiking.

Yes the Daisy 880, Daisy 901, and Winchester 77x (all the same exact gun with different clothing) are externally made of plastic, though they are very durable, and they have more metal in them than most competing MSP Airguns.   Even the Current model Crosman 2100B has more cheap plastic in it than the Daisy 880, it just is not as visible so people do not mention it.

Besides where else are you going to get an MSP Airgun that can shoot over 700FPS with real world lead 7.9 grain pellets and be more accurate than any of my modded Croaman MSPs (all include accuracy mods) with out spending more than $50?

I had a chance to prove that my Daisy 880 will shoot 10 pellet quarter size groups at 60 yards, prone shooting position.  And it did (there were a couple of groups that had a flyer or two do to the wind).  I realy need to get a camera that I can set up for shooting sessions.

[stonykill]

RE:  The 880, I bought it new for $35,  shoots dead on even with cheap pellets like the beeman pointed pellets.

                  A friend of mine picked up my Daisy 880 for the first time and exclaimed "It's plastic!"   I said "Yes, but it's powerful and it shoots straighter than guns costing five times as much."   I've always thought that Daisy should make an upscale version with a wood stock (and metal receiver?)  It would be a winner.  Accurate, no recoil, variable velocity, effortless pumping, loves many pellets.  But people want that "real rifle" feel.   
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 they did. It flopped. The 177x. A metal receiver, wood stock 880. Out of production. Was also available in .22 as a 22sg.

[mudduck48]

RE:  The 880, I bought it new for $35,  shoots dead on even with cheap pellets like the beeman pointed pellets.


                  A friend of mine picked up my Daisy 880 for the first time and exclaimed "It's plastic!"   I said "Yes, but it's powerful and it shoots straighter than guns costing five times as much."   I've always thought that Daisy should make an upscale version with a wood stock (and metal receiver?)  It would be a winner.  Accurate, no recoil, variable velocity, effortless pumping, loves many pellets.  But people want that "real rifle" feel.   

I think it is more the association with some of the truly cheapo AirGuns.  If people would actually give the gun a fair shake with out worrying about the amount of plastic they would find it to be one of the best MSP air guns on the market.

People say that they want a wood stock and metal receiver, then if they get it they complain about how heavy it is to lug around when hunting and/or hiking.

Yes the Daisy 880, Daisy 901, and Winchester 77x (all the same exact gun with different clothing) are externally made of plastic, though they are very durable, and they have more metal in them than most competing MSP Airguns.   Even the Current model Crosman 2100B has more cheap plastic in it than the Daisy 880, it just is not as visible so people do not mention it.

Besides where else are you going to get an MSP Airgun that can shoot over 700FPS with real world lead 7.9 grain pellets and be more accurate than any of my modded Croaman MSPs (all include accuracy mods) with out spending more than $50?

I had a chance to prove that my Daisy 880 will shoot 10 pellet quarter size groups at 60 yards, prone shooting position.  And it did (there were a couple of groups that had a flyer or two do to the wind).  I realy need to get a camera that I can set up for shooting sessions.

I'm sure glad you like you 880 at over 700fps. Mine I got for Christmas 2012 is lucky to get 350fps.

[DavidS]

I'm sure glad you like you 880 at over 700fps. Mine I got for Christmas 2012 is lucky to get 350fps.

Have you resealed it?  Do you oil it with 30wt ND oil?  Are you pumping it a full ten times?

If it is a Daisy 880 it would be difficult to shoot that low.   There would have to be something very wrong with the gun for a Daisy 880 to only shoot up to 350FPS.

[mudduck48]

I'm sure glad you like you 880 at over 700fps. Mine I got for Christmas 2012 is lucky to get 350fps.

Have you resealed it?  Do you oil it with 30wt ND oil?  Are you pumping it a full ten times?

If it is a Daisy 880 it would be difficult to shoot that low.   There would have to be something very wrong with the gun for a Daisy 880 to only shoot up to 350FPS.

I did not do anything to it. I put some pellgun oil on the pump cup, shot it a bit, got the Chrony out and shot it with Daisy BB's, older Daisy pellets and some Chrosman pellets. Could not get it over 350fps. I should have had my son take it back to Wallyworld, but I did not. Was very disappointed in its performance.  Still am.    And yes, I was pumping 10 times.

[DavidS]

I'm sure glad you like you 880 at over 700fps. Mine I got for Christmas 2012 is lucky to get 350fps.

Have you resealed it?  Do you oil it with 30wt ND oil?  Are you pumping it a full ten times?

If it is a Daisy 880 it would be difficult to shoot that low.   There would have to be something very wrong with the gun for a Daisy 880 to only shoot up to 350FPS.

I did not do anything to it. I put some pellgun oil on the pump cup, shot it a bit, got the Chrony out and shot it with Daisy BB's, older Daisy pellets and some Chrosman pellets. Could not get it over 350fps. I should have had my son take it back to Wallyworld, but I did not. Was very disappointed in its performance.  Still am.    And yes, I was pumping 10 times.

I would highly recommend getting another Daisy 880, it is a good gun.   It sounds like you got the low end of the QC spectrum.

Also you should use 30 weight non detergent oil for oiling the gun.   You soak the felt Oil wiper.

I would like to know what pump cup?  The Daisy 880 has a flat top metal piston with an oil ring.   The only cup seal of any form is the check seal.

I would highly recommend getting another Daisy 880, it is a good gun.   It sounds like you got the low end of the QC spectrum.

[stonykill]

I'm sure glad you like you 880 at over 700fps. Mine I got for Christmas 2012 is lucky to get 350fps.

Have you resealed it?  Do you oil it with 30wt ND oil?  Are you pumping it a full ten times?

If it is a Daisy 880 it would be difficult to shoot that low.   There would have to be something very wrong with the gun for a Daisy 880 to only shoot up to 350FPS.

I did not do anything to it. I put some pellgun oil on the pump cup, shot it a bit, got the Chrony out and shot it with Daisy BB's, older Daisy pellets and some Chrosman pellets. Could not get it over 350fps.

and there is problem number 1. Wrong oil. Just humor me and put some 30wt nd in it. And retest it.

  http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=63773.0

[mudduck48]

Thanks for the info. and encouragement. I'll try to get by Wallyworld for the oil. As far as buying another 880, I wouldn't waist the money. I have a "real" 880 that just needs new seals. It is so old it doesn't have the diamond on the forearm. Besides, I have a good Daisy. I have a 953.

[coyotejoe]

Love my 953 so much I made it into a practice rifle substitute for my muzzleloading offhand target rifle. It's not very powerful but for target practice at 10 meters it is more than plenty. Shooting from a rest with 4X scope I get 1/4" groups with Daisy flat nose pellets and that is far better than I can hold offhand with open sights. I also would like to see a "Daisy Gate" rather than 16 pages of one topic.

[DavidS]

I definitely like my Daisy 880.  Today I did some plinking and was puting pellets strait through 2 1 galon milk jugs filled with water with each shot (until most of the water all ran out the pellet hols) at 20 yards.

And every shot landed inside the little D where it says "Vitamin D".    .