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stonykill · « **Reply #300 on:** March 19, 2014, 02:01:34 PM »

Quote from: mudduck48 on March 19, 2014, 12:16:23 PM

Thanks for the info. and encouragement. I'll try to get by Wallyworld for the oil. As far as buying another 880, I wouldn't waist the money. I have a "real" 880 that just needs new seals. It is so old it doesn't have the diamond on the forearm. Besides, I have a good Daisy. I have a 953.

You are welcome. And I can relate. I will never waste my hard earned cash on another 13xx. Have to invest too much money into it to get a carbine that shoots as good as an 880. IMHO the stock 13xx out of the blisterpack is nothing short of a paperweight. So I can relate. We all have our experiences and opinions.

lillysdad621 · « **Reply #301 on:** March 19, 2014, 02:10:34 PM »

Tom... lets not get crazy... the 1377 is a great air pistol in its own right... and yes, better than a 880 any day. Is solid,tunable, and will weather the passing of time much better. All you need is a 1399 stock and that is everything you need to get a great hunter/plinker carbine. With no extra investment you can get a 13xx to shoot 600 fps with med weight pellets. The barrels are excellent and the sights being their achilles heels are workable... Take a little white nail polish and dab the front sight to make it more visible. spend some time working on the peep sight on the back (i drill it out a bit so is is almost a battle sight...). Yes we make 300 dollar 13xx guns all the time... but truth be told we all know that the stock gun was good enough for anything that a 880 may do...

stonykill · « **Reply #302 on:** March 19, 2014, 02:15:53 PM »

Quote from: lillysdad621 on March 19, 2014, 02:10:34 PM

Tom... lets not get crazy... the 1377 is a great air pistol in its own right... and yes, better than a 880 any day. Is solid,tunable, and will weather the passing of time much better. All you need is a 1399 stock and that is everything you need to get a great hunter/plinker carbine. With no extra investment you can get a 13xx to shoot 600 fps with med weight pellets. The barrels are excellent and the sights being their achilles heels are workable... Take a little white nail polish and dab the front sight to make it more visible. spend some time working on the peep sight on the back (i drill it out a bit so is is almost a battle sight...). Yes we make 300 dollar 13xx guns all the time... but truth be told we all know that the stock gun was good enough for anything that a 880 may do...

that is my opinion. 13xx, $59, steel breech, $35, barrel, $12, metal barrel band $50, stock $12 for a 2289 stock or $22 for a 13xx stock. Plus your own labor to cut and crown the barrel.
That is why I have my opinion, and it is my opinion and I am sticking to it.

Invest $130 to $150 into a 13xx vs, $44 for an 880.

Again, my opinion. Based on my own personal experiences. An 880 is a great shooting sub $50 AG. I just get sick and tired of it being bashed..that is all. And yeah, I really am NOT a fan of the 13xx platform. A lot of people like it, and I am truly happy for them.

DavidS · « **Reply #303 on:** March 19, 2014, 02:43:26 PM »

@stonykill:
I must agree with the Daisy 880 being a much better gun for cost than the 13xx/2289. I have spent about $110 on my main 2289 (including the gun), and $43 on my Daisy 880 (including the gun). My Daisy 880 is much more accurate than any of my Crosman guns.

Even before modding the Daisy 880 was quite powerful, and now it is the most powerful .177 cal AirGun I have with only about $2 in mods.

Also the Daisy 880 is easy to pump and a joy to shoot.

coyotejoe · « **Reply #304 on:** March 19, 2014, 03:53:20 PM »

I've been pretty disappointed in my Crosman 1389. It's a cute little carbine and handles very well but is neither powerful nor accurate. I only chronographed one type of pellet, the Crosman flat nose and ten pumps gave 487 fps. My Daisy 953 can nearly match that with one pump. For accuracy testing I mounted a Gamo 3-7x scope and shot groups with 5 pumps at 33 feet as follows:
Crosman FP--------1.6"
Daisy HP-----------2.3"
Daisy FP-----------1.8"
Daisy pointed-----1.6"
Crosman pointed-1.2"

I removed the front sight and found the screw hole was drilled through into the bore. I don't know if this was the cause of the poor accuracy but it surely couldn't help so I cut the barrel back behind the screw hole and re-crowned. Nope, overall it didn't help, it was better with some pellets and worse with others. After shortening the barrel I got groups as follows:

Crosman FP---------1.15" slight improvement
Crosman pointed---1.73" worse
Daisy FP------------2.15" slightly worse
Daisy pointed------0.73" Best group ever from this gun but still pretty sad.

rflemann · « **Reply #305 on:** March 19, 2014, 04:04:59 PM »

I would love a Daisy forum that would include all Avanti's also!

mudduck48 · « **Reply #306 on:** March 19, 2014, 04:25:56 PM »

So there I was sitting there sitting there thinking about the 30wtND oil and it came to me. Compressor oil is 30wt and it has to be ND or it will foam up in the crank case. I have some Sta-lube compressor oil. I think I will try it. What do you think? I used to work at a compressor repair shop and the oil we used was 30wtND.

stonykill · « **Reply #307 on:** March 19, 2014, 04:28:35 PM »

Quote from: mudduck48 on March 19, 2014, 04:25:56 PM

So there I was sitting there sitting there thinking about the 30wtND oil and it came to me. Compressor oil is 30wt and it has to be ND or it will foam up in the crank case. I have some Sta-lube compressor oil. I think I will try it. What do you think? I used to work at a compressor repair shop and the oil we used was 30wtND.

should be the same thing yes. If it were my oil and my AG I would use it.

It certainly is worth a try. It will either make your AG better, or it will verify that you got a dud. Either way.... you know. A win/win. While you are at it put some in your "real" 880 that needs seals and see what happens.

lillysdad621 · « **Reply #308 on:** March 19, 2014, 09:18:09 PM »

today my co worker showed up with a daisy model 35 smoothbore he picked up at a pawn shop for 10 bucks... really nice smoothbore shooter! it blows the 760 out of the water... and for a smoothbore it shot RWS meisterkulgens into a little 1/2 inch cluster on a taco bell cup at 12 paces...worth looking into if you are looking for a 760 for your kids, or you just want a smooth pumping rat blaster... daisys. never ceases to amaze me...

DavidS · « **Reply #309 on:** March 19, 2014, 11:06:50 PM »

I find it interesting that there is a lot of interest in the Daisy Airguns here though yet on the daisy forum over at network54 is dead.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/392756/

Why is this, the air gun forums over there generally have a lot of good stuff, and the general Airgun forum over there has some mention of Daisy guns.

Alanheal · « **Reply #310 on:** March 20, 2014, 10:55:59 AM »

Imagine you have a girlfriend who is very talented with many skills and good at everything she does. She’s always by your side and easy to hold. She asks little of you and gives you everything. But you don’t fully appreciate her, because she’s plain looking and doesn’t come from a pedigreed family.

Her name is Daisy…..

DavidS · « **Reply #311 on:** March 20, 2014, 11:01:53 AM »

Quote from: Alanheal on March 20, 2014, 10:55:59 AM

Imagine you have a girlfriend who is very talented with many skills and good at everything she does. She’s always by your side and easy to hold. She asks little of you and gives you everything. But you don’t fully appreciate her, because she’s plain looking and doesn’t come from a pedigreed family.

Her name is Daisy…..

The description is nice. I do appreciate Daisy.

stonykill · « **Reply #312 on:** March 20, 2014, 11:03:20 AM »

my wife would not appreciate me having a girl friend

mudduck48 · « **Reply #313 on:** March 20, 2014, 11:24:09 AM »

OK, Daisy dudes, let's get off the 880 and on to something else. How do you referb a 1200? And I need pictures, please. Mine, you put CO2 in it, it's OK, shoot and it goes burrrrrppp. Does not seam to have the power that is had when it was new.

stonykill · « **Reply #314 on:** March 20, 2014, 12:10:33 PM »

can't help you there Duck but I also need to fix my Daisy model 92 pistol. Or find someone to fix it. It also is missing one part. The part that holds the pellets in and allows the trigger to operate

Pretty cool pellet pistol. Pellet only

HCAirgunner · « **Reply #315 on:** March 20, 2014, 01:50:05 PM »

http://www.bakerairguns.com/

Authorized repair for out-of-warranty Daisy products.

Alanheal · « **Reply #316 on:** March 20, 2014, 02:02:24 PM »

I do have one complaint about my Daisy 880. Every so often I like to have a new toy, so I decided to buy a telescopic site. The only problem is, I can't rationalize spending the money, because the Daisy shoots so straight with open sights, that a scope wouldn't be an improvement.

HCAirgunner · « **Reply #317 on:** March 20, 2014, 02:12:43 PM »

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the Daisy shoots so straight with open sights, that a scope wouldn't be an improvement.

That's an easy fix:

1) Keep your current 880 un-scoped, just the way it is.

2) Buy ANOTHER 880 and scope it; then you can make videos of shooting tests, comparisons, etc. and post them on here for us to watch

And you can justify the expenditure as being in the name of airgun research!

Privateer · « **Reply #318 on:** March 20, 2014, 05:33:58 PM »

Quote from: HCAirgunner on March 20, 2014, 01:50:05 PM

http://www.bakerairguns.com/

Authorized repair for out-of-warranty Daisy products.

I just talked to Dennis there. I'm takeing my Daisy 106 down to have him take a look at.
They're pretty close to me and said he has a barn full of old stuff!
I might be in trouble.

I mentioned GTA as my source. Hope that's cool.

DavidS · « **Reply #319 on:** March 20, 2014, 10:56:31 PM »

Quote from: Alanheal on March 20, 2014, 02:02:24 PM

I do have one complaint about my Daisy 880. Every so often I like to have a new toy, so I decided to buy a telescopic site. The only problem is, I can't rationalize spending the money, because the Daisy shoots so straight with open sights, that a scope wouldn't be an improvement.

Start doing some target shooting out past 40 yards

. That will give you an excuse to scope your Daisy 880. And so long as you can compensate for drop and wind accurately it can make some very small groups out as far as 100 yards (1.2 inches for me at 105 Yards standing with out a rest, though I am not a very good shot).

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