I think you are totally fair and correct to expect a business selling NEW products of any sort should evaluate NEW products, if for no other reason than to suspect there may have been changes and modification in the product over the past 14 years, I would think there probably have been and the matter of seals drying out and other effects of time on the product. Fourteen years of oil turned gummy in the bore can certainly effect accuracy and 14 years storage with a dry bore can result in rust pitting. Just saying, who knows and that is the point.
you are not alone in the minority. i asked bb for this review as a fair shake for the daisy. testing an older gun is not representative of any 880 you could buy anywhere but a garage sale (and we know to expect any gun bought there to be a project, not a new gun). that's kinda bull-headed, glad he gave in and will test a new one.rob
So, good job. You got what you wanted.
@K.O.:You can buy parts from Daisy. And as far as seals go the new ones fit the older guns. Thankfuly there is very little difference between the first 880 and the current ones, from a functional point of view.
Don't forget the Model 499 Avanti Champion BB 5 meter target rifle. I would like to have one of those some day.
I grew up with Daisy, and I think they were great guns, although when I look at the models today, I feel a bit disappointed, because they don't look as well made as the ones I had.For instance, my old model 840 had a plastic stock, even back in 1979 when I got it for my 10th birthday. But it was that rich, dark, brown color, and it looked like a traditional hunting rifle. Today's model 840 rifles come in either ugly-as-sin camouflage, or "Grizzly black," neither of which is aesthetically pleasing, at least IMHO. Also, the cocking action on the new 840 rifles feels as if the action doesn't close properly; it feels like there is about a 1/8" gap between the rifle and the plastic arm, even after you've cocked it. And it is even apparent in the pictures that you see online. Take a look: [Both pictures can be zoomed in by clicking on them.]Can you tell how the cocking action looks like it is slanted to the bottom left, and doesn't come back completely flush with the bottom of the gun?The old 840 that I had did not have this issue.Look:This is an image of an older 840 that I found on the internet. Note how the bottom of the cocking action is even with the bottom of the gun. Also, don't you guys like the look of the old 840 better? Or am I just out of step with the times?I have an old model 840 that I bought recently on EBay for 10 dollars, and it looked intact, and in great shape, but when I fired it, it became obvious that the seals were gone, because when I fired it, the snap sounded weak, and the pellet never left the barrel.I am sure that there is no debris in the barrel, and that it was not an issue of pellet deformity, because I tested 4 different types of pellets, all with the same result. Each time, the pellet was EASILY removed by simply pushing it out with a cleaning rod. If the pellet had been deformed, or if there had been debris present, I would have felt resistance when I pushed with the rod. I felt no resistance at all; the pellet glided out with the rod's slightest touch.I had intended to give it to my 7 year old son, but when it failed to shoot, I was forced to trot down to Wal-Mart and buy him a "Grizzly Black" 840.Do you guys know a good place to get my 840 re-sealed? I have contacted (about 30 minutes ago I sent an email) Daisy, but I got an auto-reply that said a response could be as many as 5 business days from now.
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