My 1322 crosman is dead

[s2kohio]

So, I back to looking at the custom shop

There’s the 2400KT that gives options for breech, barrel, optics

There’s the 2400KT that does not give option for breech. It’s the same price to start as the 2300KT. It has options for optics. Does it come with a steel breech? The custom shop has no link to ask questions.

Also, the stock trigger spring not worthy. Too much pull. But I don’t see an option to get a lighter spring.

I guess the custom shop isn’t that custom at all

I also don’t see an option for a quick release pin for shoulder stock and I really HATE losing the safety ball when trying to install it (because I don’t have a vise to put it in when working on it).

I was going to simply buy a steel breech for my 1322 but I’m still not sure that it’s up to spec on the FPS.

I think I’ve been bitten by the Modicus Crosmanascious bug. Decisions decisions.

[avator]

I think all CCS guns come with the steel breech. You have the option of which. The trigger issue is easy to fix. A lighter spring from the hardware store. They need to consider safety in what they sell so they insure that the spring is heavy to avoid incident.... what you do after it's yours is your business.

[CraigH]

There’s the 2400KT that gives options for breech, barrel, optics

There’s the 2400KT that does not give option for breech. It’s the same price to start as the 2300KT. It has options for optics. Does it come with a steel breech? The custom shop has no link to ask questions.

Also, the stock trigger spring not worthy. Too much pull. But I don’t see an option to get a lighter spring.

I guess the custom shop isn’t that custom at all

Possibly a typing error above.    There is only one 2400KT - the other is a 2300KT.   The 2400KT has the 2250 gas tube - the 2300KT has the 2240 gas tube.  (1.6" difference in length)   Both have steel breeches, short on 2300KT (option of long) and long on 2400KT

One does does not get much "custom" at $80 - CCS gives the capability of getting desired parts factory assembled.

For a really light (say 1 pound) trigger, see the attachment.   Re-contoured sear and clevis pin guide, both polished, and a shortened hardware store spring.

[BigBird]

There’s the 2400KT that does not give option for breech. It’s the same price to start as the 2300KT. It has options for optics. Does it come with a steel breech? The custom shop has no link to ask questions.

Yes it is a steel breech but FYI as per the link below it has the rear hole so the breech won't interchange with your 1322.  The 2400kt works out to be cheaper with the shoulder stock and you can't get a 18" barrel with the 2300.

[Glasstomb]

Love that song, Grace Slick really belts it out.

Took the liberty and modified your lyrics a little:

And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know your going to fall
Tell'em Crosman
Has given you the call.
Call Robert (Bob Stern)
I think he'll know.

She sends her love.....

[CraigH]

The image in BigBird's post shows the contents of a steel breech kit with the rear 4-48 machine screw location.    Current steel breech kits have the forward location.   Of notable importance, is the relieved hammer (not included) necessary to clear the 4-48 machine screw on a rear screw location breech.

Crosman created considerable confusion for the uninitiated with the two breech screw locations.   But the two locations were necessary because of the plastic breech on standard 2240 pistols.   The construction of the plastic breech and its bolt with a pressed in, non-removable handle, requires the forward screw location.   With the 2300S and 2300T pistols and their steel breech, a rear screw location was preferred for easier, smoother pellet loading.

Breeches with the rear screw location require removal of the bolt handle for access to the 4-48 machine screw.

Bottom line:   Breeches with the forward screw allow a bit easier installation and disassembly.   Breeches with the rear screw location allow easier, smoother pellet loading.

[BigBird]

The image in BigBird's post shows the contents of a steel breech kit with the rear 4-48 machine screw location.    Current steel breech kits have the forward location.   Of notable importance, is the relieved hammer (not included) necessary to clear the 4-48 machine screw on a rear screw location breech.

Crosman created considerable confusion for the uninitiated with the two breech screw locations.   But the two locations were necessary because of the plastic breech on standard 2240 pistols.   The construction of the plastic breech and its bolt with a pressed in, non-removable handle, requires the forward screw location.   With the 2300S and 2300T pistols and their steel breech, a rear screw location was preferred for easier, smoother pellet loading.

Breeches with the rear screw location require removal of the bolt handle for access to the 4-48 machine screw.

Bottom line:   Breeches with the forward screw allow a bit easier installation and disassembly.   Breeches with the rear screw location allow easier, smoother pellet loading.

Thank you!  Thats the confirmation I was looking for.  NOW I'M GETTING THE HANKERING FOR A 2400KT!  Hey, that is a heck of a value cause you get the much saught after longer 2250 tube.  I'd HPA it (pin the valve with 10-32 screws) for a little more volume than the 2240 and lmore manageable pistol than the 2260.  I don't think you can get a part from Crosman for the 2250 tube anymore right (only through CCS)?  This is lazer stamped.

Which begs the question, why is the 2300 MORE??

[CraigH]

I don't know about 2250 tube availability - I bought two about two years ago.

Do you mean the cost of the 2300KT at CCS?   I don't understand either, but that and the 2250 tube is why I have the 2400KT.

Or are you talking about the 2300S and 2300T models.

[BigBird]

I don't know about 2250 tube availability - I bought two about two years ago.

Do you mean the cost of the 2300KT at CCS?   I don't understand either, but that and the 2250 tube is why I have the 2400KT.

Or are you talking about the 2300S and 2300T models.

Maybe I tried to get a 2250 lazer etched tube from Crosman and couldnt.  Dont remember but I purchased 2260 instead.  Yeah the CCS 2300 works out to be more than the 2400kt.   I don't know what the KT, S, T stand for.

In HPA the 2240 tube gets about 5-7 shots but the 2250 should be more useable.  2260 is a large pistol but gets a lot more HPA shots, is packable for hunting and better for big bore builds(!).

[avator]

I built my 2 hpa conversion carbines with the 2260 tubes.

[avator]

Ok, let's go back to the 'rabbit hole' thing just for the sake of proper enablement.... 

The depth of the hole greatly depends on your ability to catch a grip onto the slippery slopes. Some are better than others... I seem to be in the 'others' group.
Some would buy a Fortitude and be happy. However, I'm a true believer in the concept of, "Destination is but an end to an adventure".
That said..... here is "Woodus Scopus Maximus Repeatus" (WSMR.22)

[CraigH]

Two standard production pistols - non CCS.

"S"  --  Silhouette

"T"  --  Target

[BigBird]

Ok, let's go back to the 'rabbit hole' thing just for the sake of proper enablement.... 

The depth of the hole greatly depends on your ability to catch a grip onto the slippery slopes. Some are better than others... I seem to be in the 'others' group.
Some would buy a Fortitude and be happy. However, I'm a true believer in the concept of, "Destination is but an end to an adventure".
That said..... here is "Woodus Scopus Maximus Repeatus" (WSMR.22)

And for relevance, you CAN use a Maximus barrel on a 1322!  That is a 26" barrel.

[superchikn]

Lots of interesting discussion here.

Mike, 
Very impressed with your "sudden" transformation from timid non tinkerer through fixer and " now I want to start modding"!
My hat is off to you sir.  I have always been a tinkerer.  I am not capable of leaving anything assembled. 


Others,
I have a Baker aluminum breech with left sided bolt handle on a 1377.  What is the difference between a long and a short steel breech though?

Thanks.


BTW Mike,  a little grease on the safety ball and spring will help keep things from rolling out of position. 
I bought a pack of 100 balls last year on Amazon.  These balls may not be very big but I have a lot of 'em.

[avator]

Ron..... I can see a brand new lego build in your near future..... lol

Bill, think I you might be right.
 I have taken a few of mine apart and have never put them back together.
 I have box full of stuff that will probably build 2 or 3 complete guns.
 A while back,  I also acquired one of those "Exclusive" Brand, (sidelever breeches) that uses the M-rod magazines.
 It is currently residing on a simple cart-powered 2240 (just to test the quality of the breech itself).
 I now do believe it would be worthy of getting installed on one of my "Radical Rodent Reaper" , Rear Bottled Franken-guns.

here's a couple of the old threads , (I'll see if I can find some more)

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=151308.msg1548081#msg1548081

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=101626.0


Mike,
   Before you go down this road/hole,.....
     ..... OOPS,.... Nevermind !
            Here ya go - https://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/

I looked at those 'Exclusive' side lever breeches. That's not a 'drop in' by no means. You have to cut and inlet the breech end of the barrel and cut the ice maker tube transfer port to size (no biggie there). That and the cost of it stopped me.

[Tack Driver 10]

Love that song, Grace Slick really belts it out.

Took the liberty and modified your lyrics a little:

And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know your going to fall
Tell'em Crosman
Has given you the call.
Call Robert (Bob Stern)
I think he'll know.

She sends her love.....

LOL....Thanks, I'll always cherish it.

[CraigH]

I have a Baker aluminum breech with left sided bolt handle on a 1377.  What is the difference between a long and a short steel breech though?

Just the length forward of the breech (pellet tray) opening - so more barrel engagement.

Not having any short steel breeches, I cannot give the difference in length.

[superchikn]

I have a Baker aluminum breech with left sided bolt handle on a 1377.  What is the difference between a long and a short steel breech though?

Just the length forward of the breech (pellet tray) opening - so more barrel engagement.

Not having any short steel breeches, I cannot give the difference in length.

Thanks.

 After I typed that I was looking at the long and short breeches on CCS trying to figure it out and greater barrel stability was what i was thinking.

[Gertrude]

I have a Baker aluminum breech with left sided bolt handle on a 1377.  What is the difference between a long and a short steel breech though?

Just the length forward of the breech (pellet tray) opening - so more barrel engagement.

Not having any short steel breeches, I cannot give the difference in length.

Thanks.

 After I typed that I was looking at the long and short breeches on CCS trying to figure it out and greater barrel stability was what i was thinking.

Also, (when the intention is to eventually mount a scope),
   the longer breech better allows for positioning the scope for setting up proper eye relief.

[s2kohio]

Guys

I’m bummed out. After all the work on my 1322 I see that the front sight is still tilted to the left.

I can take it apart (no, I don’t want to) but how can I fix the front sight?

I can’t see how to take it apart. I thought bill said once I fixed the misaligned cylinder the front sight would be ‘fixed’.

If I had a sledgehammer I’d smash the S outta this pistol.

By the way I heard from Crosman and they want me to send it in for warranty repair. Who knows when I’d get it back or if it’s even be fixed to factory specs.

Ackkkkkk