My 1322 crosman is dead

[avator]

I was going to add the ball to the parts list way back in this topic but forgot to do so.

I have had poor results with the "stick in the front of the barrel" lasers - at least cheap ones.   They did not point straight, confirmed rotating the device and seeing the laser point rotate in a circle.

I've never used one... just a suggestion...

[s2kohio]

Friends

I’m pleased (and proud) to report success.

The pump gets increasingly harder to pump from 3-10.

I’ve zeroed it in with my BSA red dot (not a laser). Only took about 20 minutes and 15 pellets. I just didn’t want to waste more time zeroing in the iron sites. The BSA consistently zeroed inside the ‘diamond’ of the bullseye on the targets.ws zeroing chart. So this pistol is now hitting the inside of a 1” square. Squirrels and chipmunks beware.

Now that I’m a ‘gunsmith’ (laughing so hard inside my stomach hurts) I think I’ll spring for the Crosman long steel breech (as was recommended many pages ago) just for the 1322.  As I recall, the steel breech is different for the 1322 than it is on the 1377. I think probe length or something like that.

Again thanks all for chiming in with all the support, advice, diagrams, etc. GTA is great and so are all of you.   

[avator]

HAHAHA !!!   Another enabling job well done fellas !!
Yes, the diameter of the bolt is different from .22 and .177.

Some one please chime in here...

I know some steel breeches have the forward 'pita screw' and some have the rearward one. Which one will he need for the 1322?

Nevermind... I found it..
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-22-cal-steel-breech-kit-fits-2240-2250-2260-2289-1322-air-guns?a=4387

Mike, you won't be able to use the original rear sight on this breech but you can use a scope, red dot and sights that fit the sideways dovetail groove.

[YEMX]

Another option, albeit a more expensive one, would be to use a LPA MIM rear sight from Pyramyd,  which is far superior, and has both windage and elevation adjustments...

[avator]

...... and down the rabbit hole he goes..... lol

[Hoosier Daddy]

WHOO-HOO!!!!

[avator]

Speaking of which...
Will the LPA MIM sight be too high for the stock front blade?

[sb327]

Hats off to the OP for seeing this through! Now others can learn from this thread.

Dave

[YEMX]

Speaking of which...
Will the LPA MIM sight be too high for the stock front blade?

That's a good question- but since the LPA rear sight is marketed as a great replacement rear sight with no front sight option (at least, non that I've seen), I would assume no- the LPA wouldn't be too tall for a stock front sight.  I suppose an option would be to get either a front barrel band that's also an LDC mount and has a front blade built in...  Or if the OP doesn't decide to use an LDC, he could get a Disco front sight and front sight mount, that should bring up the front sight a bit... 

[BigBird]

As I recall, the steel breech is different for the 1322 than it is on the 1377. I think probe length or something like that.

No, the steel breech is the same but the probe and your barrel make the caliber.  The front of the probe is different between .177 and .22. If you order the Pyramid kit it will come with one.  I ordered my kits a long time ago from Crosman and they were out of .22 so I got .177.  I took my one piece bolt/handle out of my 1322 and extracted the handle and tapped the hole for 8-32 and had the right probe.  They are all interchangeable.

However you can screw up and get a Disco breech which has a screw position further back and it would not be compatible with a 1322.  Now that I think of it the CCS 2400kt may have that breech(?) with the rear screw so maybe that wasnt a good suggestion to get a 2400kt..  Sorry.

Glad you got it working!

[avator]

OK so, where are we now?
Steel breech kit.
LPA MIM.
Muzzle break.
Might as well get the 14" barrel while you're at it.....
See where we're going here?  MUHAHAHAHA

[CraigH]

No, the steel breech is the same but the probe and your barrel make the caliber.

However you can screw up and get a Disco breech which has a screw position further back and it would not be compatible with a 1322.  Now that I think of it the CCS 2400kt may have that breech(?) with the rear screw so maybe that wasnt a good suggestion to get a 2400kt..  Sorry.

True - kit breeches are the same.

My 2400KT has the rear screw location in the breech.   But many if not most or all 22XX (including my two 2250 tubes) tubes have both screw locations available for use.   I cannot recall if, when I installed a Mellon flow-through bolt/probe, the 2400KT has both holes in the tube.

[Spooner]

Speaking of which...
Will the LPA MIM sight be too high for the stock front blade?

i have the LPA on my 1377. it worked fine with the stock sight as well as the fiber optic front sight i added when i changed to the LW 14.5" barrel. it is a fantastic rear sight. 

[Spooner]

Friends

I’m pleased (and proud) to report success.

The pump gets increasingly harder to pump from 3-10.

I’ve zeroed it in with my BSA red dot (not a laser). Only took about 20 minutes and 15 pellets. I just didn’t want to waste more time zeroing in the iron sites. The BSA consistently zeroed inside the ‘diamond’ of the bullseye on the targets.ws zeroing chart. So this pistol is now hitting the inside of a 1” square. Squirrels and chipmunks beware.

Now that I’m a ‘gunsmith’ (laughing so hard inside my stomach hurts) I think I’ll spring for the Crosman long steel breech (as was recommended many pages ago) just for the 1322.  As I recall, the steel breech is different for the 1322 than it is on the 1377. I think probe length or something like that.

Again thanks all for chiming in with all the support, advice, diagrams, etc. GTA is great and so are all of you.   

fantastic news!!!

vermin beware!!! 

...and down the path of the darkside you go, hahahahaha!!! 

[Spooner]

As I recall, the steel breech is different for the 1322 than it is on the 1377. I think probe length or something like that.

No, the steel breech is the same but the probe and your barrel make the caliber.  The front of the probe is different between .177 and .22.

so, i learned something from this thread already  . i did not realize that the probe on the end of the bolt was different between the two calibers. i looked at both and sure enough... different! i ordered my long steel breech from pyramid for the 1377CCS (i accidently ordered the short steel breech when i had it built by Crosman) and got lucky i guess, lol. my 1322 i paid more attention when i had it built and the options i chose.

[YEMX]

If ordering parts from Crosman, a somewhat cheap alternative bolt would be a Disco .22 bolt.  It's got a longer probe that seats the pellet a little further into the barrel and looks like it would clear the TP...  It also works with standard factory bolt handles.  PN for the bolt: 2261-002.

[s2kohio]

I started peeking at the rabbit hole and went to Crosman custom shop. I prefer pumpers, but they are out of stock on the 1300KT.  So I looked at the 2400KT CO2.

Now I’m pretty cheap and I don’t want to pay more to shoot but I’d like the thoughts you might have on CO2 vs. 10 pumps to eradicate vermin. I will only be shooting probably from April thru October. Most likely not in winter.

My research tells me that you get about 35 to 40 effective shots on 1 CO2 cartridge. Also it seems you have to let it ‘cool down’ between shots - so having to wait is probably the same as having to pump.

I’d buy the .22 steel breech on Crosman but every time I’ve ever looked it’s out of stock. I thought they just pulled that during their holiday 20% off site wide sales.

I’ll save the rest of my questions as I get answers to this post.

[Gertrude]

Mike, I thought you (and perhaps others here too) might find this interesting

https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/blog/2010/06/the-amazing-customizable-crosman-1377.html

[avator]

Ron..... I can see a brand new lego build in your near future..... lol

[Gertrude]

I started peeking at the rabbit hole and went to Crosman custom shop.
 So I looked at the 2400KT CO2.

HAHahahahhaha,.... and so it begins!
Mike, look WAAaaayyyy down deep into that hole.
 You may need to shine a strong light to see all the way to the bottom.
 Thats were you'll find Me, Bill, and a few hundred others.

I'll see if I can dig up some old posts on some of our "Franken-Guns".
 Btw,.... has anyone mentiod to you what the real definition of the term "MOD" stands for ?
   It stands for "Momentum Of Decent" (down the rabbit hole)

Hahahaha, this is going to get fun....