My 1322 crosman is dead

[avator]

Send it.

[CraigH]

I concur with Mr avator.   You have however had the benefit of being well immersed in beginner air gun repair.

If sending it in for warranty repair, ensure the issues are well documented.

The pistol may come back very well fitted - especially for such an inexpensive air gun.

[s2kohio]

Yes it is a steel breech but FYI as per the link below it has the rear hole so the breech won't interchange with your 1322.  The 2400kt works out to be cheaper with the shoulder stock and you can't get a 18" barrel with the 2300.

Ok so here’s the next question. From what you said, the 2400KT is the better pistol to order from CCS. You suggest the 18” barrel but WAY UP in this thread the 14.5” barrel was recommended.

I’m disgusted with my FUBAR 1322. So I’m thinking the time has come to purchase from CCS. I’m at the point to take all suggestions of which pistol to get. I’ve come to the conclusion that I might like to give up pumping for CO2 - if only to get a pistol actually put together by a human who might actually install the cylinders correctly and set the front iron sight in a vertical position.

But I’d also like to put some type of suppressor on it to make it whisper quiet.

Realistically, this is beyond my capabilities. I have a few pathetic tools - a 9V Royobi drill, a few screwdrivers, some pliers, a hammer, and now an SAE Allen wrench set. The 1322 is lucky that some years ago someone stole my sledgehammer. No workbench, vise, lathe, or anything else here. 

So what muzzle brake do I order from CSS so someone here can sell the part to quiet the pistol. Guess I need to ask if CO2 is louder than 10 pumps.

More soon, as I ruminate further on the subject.

[Tack Driver 10]

X3, What could possibly go wrong?

The gun is of little use so give Crosman a chance to make it right.

[CraigH]

Mike,

A muzzle brake is NOT a suppressor, or moderator, or LDC (take your choice of nomenclature - I prefer moderator).    In fact, a brake may make the pistol a bit louder to the shooter or persons to the side (depending on where the cutouts are located).   That is certainly true with firearms, perhaps not so much with lower powered air guns.

[Gertrude]

Mike,

A muzzle brake is NOT a suppressor, or moderator, or LDC (take your choice of nomenclature - I prefer moderator).    In fact, a brake may make the pistol a bit louder to the shooter or persons to the side (depending on where the cutouts are located).   That is certainly true with firearms, perhaps not so much with lower powered air guns.

100% agreed
If you do order a CCS gun, just get the regular front sight on it.

Then, send a PM to Rocker1 to order one of his LDC's. you are fully capable of instating it onto the new gun once it arrives.
 Tell him you want it to be as close to "Mouse Fart Quiet" as possible. You won't be disappointed.

[avator]

Several are available. Such as TKO. You can even commission our own Rocker1 to make you one. Just send him a PM. As they say.... your gun will be mouse fart quiet.

[avator]

HAHAHA Ron beats me to the punch again.

[s2kohio]

Thanks for the info. I sent Rocker1 a PM. Now I think I want to get a 2400KT based on it being a ‘better’ pistol than the 2300KT from info gleaned the collective. The 2400 comes with the longer steel breech and it has a better barrel (not sure how/why). I will also get the plain front sight.

SO here’s the next Q - the 2400KT with 14.5 barrel or an 18” barrel?

And what’s the real skinny between the crosman barrel and the expensive barrel (I forget the name).

Hope you guys aren’t getting ‘tired’ of all my posts/questions.

[Gertrude]

Get either the 14" or the 18" Crosman barrel. Your choice. Just keep in mind that the LDC is going to add another 5"-6" to the length of the gun.
Personally, for a Co2 powered  2240, I'd stay with the 14".

You wont need the Lothar Walther barrel for what you will be using the gun for, and you don't  need to spend the extra money on it either.
We'll  be happy to do that for you. Lol.

[s2kohio]

Ok I’m going to go to CO2. Hope I’ll enjoy it as I do my current 1377 pumper and previously my 1322.

I’ll get the 2400KT with the 14.6” barrel and the regular front blade sight with the regular shoulder stock (it comes with long steel breech), no optics and no trigger shoe. The price is $87.60.

But I can’t figure out why the 2300kT with the same choices costs $101.31 while the 2400KT  is only $87.60 with the same choices of options.

What am I missing? Why is the 2400 $13.71 cheaper?

[CraigH]

It is a curiosity that the 2300KT has a higher price than the 2400KT.   But that is the case and no one can explain that situation.   You are not missing anything.

[s2kohio]

What’s the specific difference between the base 2300KT and the 2400 KT

[Treeman63]

Tons of info in this thread so I thought I would add some....:^)
Regarding the traitorous safety ball. I cannot remember at the moment if it is size 5 or 7 but steel shotgun shot works fine for the ball. The dirty little spring is what gives me more grief and some disposable butane lighters contain a spring that is suitable in diameter and can be trimmed to length ( but it is a bit weak).

Regarding replacement breeches... it is noteworthy that the Baker aluminium breech can utililize the factory rear sight. It is lighter in weight than the Crosman steel breeches but much more solid than the plastic breech and accepts tip off mounts/optics.

[BigBird]

I think the main difference is the 2300kt is the normal 2240 CO2 tube but is lazer etched with the warning instead of pressed roll stamped.  The 2400kt has the 2250 tube (etched too) and forend stock, which by the way is "what everyone is looking for".  I wish there was a 3d print of that one! Get the 2400kt now before they realize the pricing or the 2400 is sold out.

I think you'll like whatever length barrel you get.  Even with a moderator you will be able to put it in a large backpack (with pistol grips beside the shoulder stock).  It's nice to pack it to go camping, remove pests at a friends house, etc. without having a gun case.

You can get a 3d printed moderator for cheap here in the member classified.  Forgot his name...

[YEMX]

I still feel that the 14", or 14.5" Crosman barrel will be your best bet.  Long enough to see more efficiency, short enough to be truly compact.  As Gertrude said, you really don't need the more expensive barrel.  If you're that interested, you can build another pistol down the road.  If you get a threaded LDC adapter, and a thread-on LDC, you can remove it for travel and have a really compact package. 

[s2kohio]

I think the main difference is the 2300kt is the normal 2240 CO2 tube but is lazer etched with the warning instead of pressed roll stamped.  The 2400kt has the 2250 tube (etched too) and forend stock, which by the way is "what everyone is looking for".  I wish there was a 3d print of that one! Get the 2400kt now before they realize the pricing or the 2400 is sold out.

You can get a 3d printed moderator for cheap here in the member classified.  Forgot his name...

What’s a fore end stock? 

I’m ordering it with the least expensive shoulder stock, which I assume is a standard 1399.

What is the noise difference (or is it the same) between CO2 and 10 pumps on a 1322/1377?

I Was quoted  $55 for a moderator.

While I was typing this Tom posted the following excerpt “ If you get a threaded LDC adapter, and a thread-on LDC you can remove it for travel” What the heck is that, where do you buy it, how do you install it, and does it work on the Crosman 14.5” barrel from the CCS?

Again thanks for replies. I see I’m entering the rabbit hole. strike that, I’m in  😜

[avator]

Consider holding a rifle with 2 hands. One hand is on the 'wrist' (trigger hand). The other hand is on the 'fore end'... that is the fore end stock.
As for threaded adapter....
Some moderators are held onto the barrel with set (Allen) screws. Some thread on. If your barrel is not threaded then you will want an adapter that attaches to the barrel with set screws and has threads for the screw on moderator.
The person who makes your moderator should ask, or know if you need one when you tell them what gun you are using it for.... if not, make sure they know.
For your gun you will need an adapter or a moderator that fastens on with the set screw.

[avator]

My suggestion..... if you are not financially strapped, hang on to the 1322. It's a good start for a tinker project down the road. You've already dipped your toes into the rabbit hole, it won't end here.... 

I mean, at this point, your only issue is a misaligned front sight blade.... easy fix. Tap it off and realign it or pick up a moderator/muzzle brake for the gun. If you choose a moderator/muzzle brake, it's going to have to come off anyways.

[YEMX]

What’s a fore end stock? 

What is the noise difference (or is it the same) between CO2 and 10 pumps on a 1322/1377?

I Was quoted  $55 for a moderator.

While I was typing this Tom posted the following excerpt “ If you get a threaded LDC adapter, and a thread-on LDC you can remove it for travel” What the heck is that, where do you buy it, how do you install it, and does it work on the Crosman 14.5” barrel from the CCS?

A fore end is a piece of plastic in front of the trigger to cover up the bare tube.  The plastic bit that you grab on your 13xx is a fore end.

Sound is subjective, and IMO, the sound that a CO₂ gun makes and a pump gun (or a PCP) sound different.  The tone I mean- but as far as loudness, I'd say CO₂ is a touch louder.  Again, that's just my opinion.

Lead dust collector (LDC), moderator, suppressor, muffler, pickle- they're all the same thing.  There are more than a few places to get a LDC threaded adapter- I'm sure Rocker1 can make you one to match his LDC if you inquire about one.  If you want to get the adapter from someone else, DonnyFL has them available (donnyfl.com).  You can also find them on ebay- but be sure to check on the quality of the part your getting...  As far as fitment, it'll fit on a 14"+ barrel.  No worries there.  The only bad part is, you'll lose your front sight.  However, ask Rocker1 if he'd be willing to make a threaded adapter that will also mount a factory front sight...  DonnyFL doesn't make a LDC adapter w/a provision for a front sight.