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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => PCP/CO2/HPA Air Gun Gates "The Darkside" => Topic started by: Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58) on December 20, 2022, 01:28:18 PM
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I know a few folks (myself included) have either recently purchased or have expressed interest in the new Hatsan Jet Pistols.
I just ordered a Jet 1 in .25 today. I know some others have ordered them in .22 and possible even .177.
I thought I'd start a thread where everyone can share their thoughts and experiences with these new pistols.
I purchased the Jet 1 model for the slimmer style and the hopes it might fit a generic holster. The only real diserable difference between the two that I could tell, besides looks, was shot count. It doesn't appear the extra cylinder adds any more power. Since I got the .25 caliber, the magazine only holds 6 pellets, but hey, it's a six shooter in the truest sense!
I got it in .25 because I don't have a PCP pistol in .25, and I'm not sure anyone but Hatsan makes one. I know it's not a power house, but I also hope it's got enough umph for rats and squirrels.
Looking forward to hearing other's thoughts and experiences and I'll be adding mine once it arrives.
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Hey Paul , glad you got one.. Mine is in transit in rhode island , expected friday now but im hoping to get lucky and get it thursday.. The fact that theyre unregged and sidelver leads me to believe a slightly heavier hammer spring will Up the fpe even before porting takes place. Were it regged, wed know theres a built in choke point ( like the 750 or notos ) . Ill be taking it apart and having a look not too long after recieving it .Another thing that crossed my mind , the gauntlet and my umarex fusion 2 have .440 barrels , very similar to crosman barrels. So it may be easy to swap in a crosman 10 inch barrel on my 22cal , which would likely free up another 30-50 fps ,, I wish they made guns like this 10 yrs ago , compact pcp with detable stock and decent power.. I would have killed for this in 2012 ish.
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Rob, according to PA, mine should arrive Thursday as well. Did you get the .22 from Ebay? I don't recall all the details from that other discussion! :D
It's been my experience that Hatsans have been either way over powered or under powered! But, that all seem to be adjustable, so hopefully a little tuning will do the trick without a lot of modifying! I'm looking forward to your review...
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I got the 22, the 25 had sold out instantly. were it a straight pull back bolt , id never consider a heavier hammer, but with sidelever youre only feeling about 1/4 to 1/6 th of the cocking force anyway,, im also questioning the claimed numbeers with a 7.9 inch barrel
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I think you'll like it in .25, Paul. My .25 Bandit carbine is one of my favorite guns.
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Thanks Eddie! I don't have a istol in .25, so that seemed to be the logical choice! Lower speed, but more lead, so the thump should still be pretty hard! ;D
Rob, it seems PA is AGD are the only places that have all 3 calibers available. Sports and Gadgets was the only other place I found them in stock, and currently they only have the .177 caliber available in either model. BTW, it looks like S&G is the seller on both Amazon and Ebay. There is another vendor with the .22 and .25's for sale, but he's asking $100 more! No thank you!
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the prices on ebay have gone through the roof , saw a jet 2 for 399 the yesterday..
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the prices on ebay have gone through the roof , saw a jet 2 for 399 the yesterday..
Yep, that's the other seller! That's also why I decided to go through PA, $100 less plus free 2nd day delivery! I'm assuming the MSRP is $299.99 based on PA's price of $20 off ($279.99), so if that's the case, that guy is really price gouging! I was going to wait till S&G got more in stock, but I had the Bulleye Bucks and the 10% off GTA code, so it brought the price pretty close to S&G's price. Not as good as the sale price you got, but still reasonable!
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I bought a Jet 2 last week thru pyramid, it’s a nice light little gun. The hand grip is a little thick for my hands but not bad. I was test shooting it at 13 yards and could not get a good group with crosman 13.7 or fx hybrids 22 I bought some h&n barracudas 18.54 grains. Same thing still horrible groups. So I opened her up took the barrel out and cleaned it real good, there was some brown junk in the barrel. Also I put one shim behind the hammer spring. The trigger is adjustable but I didn’t touch it. The guns really easy to work on. The shim didn’t really do much. With 13.7 I was getting a high of 687 low of 631 avg of 664. Once I cleaned her up I put ATN on her and resighted with that and now the groups are acceptable.
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Excellent thread Paul! Smart thinking, thank you 🙏. I thought that these were regulated...like the Notos...am I wring in thinking that?
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Excellent thread Paul! Smart thinking, thank you 🙏. I thought that these were regulated...like the Notos...am I wring in thinking that?
Thank you Randall! Is the Notos regulated? I need to check the specs again, there really isn't a lot of info available on any of these pistol/carbine air guns! I did not see anything that indicated the Jet's were regulated, so I'm thinking they aren't.
I bought a Jet 2 last week thru pyramid, it’s a nice light little gun. The hand grip is a little thick for my hands but not bad. I was test shooting it at 13 yards and could not get a good group with crosman 13.7 or fx hybrids 22 I bought some h&n barracudas 18.54 grains. Same thing still horrible groups. So I opened her up took the barrel out and cleaned it real good, there was some brown junk in the barrel. Also I put one shim behind the hammer spring. The trigger is adjustable but I didn’t touch it. The guns really easy to work on. The shim didn’t really do much. With 13.7 I was getting a high of 687 low of 631 avg of 664. Once I cleaned her up I put ATN on her and resighted with that and now the groups are acceptable.
Matt, good to hear they are easy to work on. Is there any hammer spring adjustment at all, or just shimming it to increase tension? Also, what did you use for a shim?
Post any pics of the inards if you have them! Curioous to see what makes it tick!
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For comparison purposes, here are the specs for the Umarex Notos and the Hatsan Jet 1 in .22, so we're comparing Granny Smith's to Red Delicious! ;D
Umarex Notos PCP Carbine
Precharged pneumatic
Sidelever
Uses .22 caliber pellets
Length-adjustable buttstock with Rubber Buttpad
Shrouded barrel and three-baffle SilencAir System
Max. fill pressure: 3,625 PSI (250 BAR)
Regulator pressure: 1,900 PSI
21 regulated shots per fill
Max. velocity: 700 FPS (w/ 12 gr. pellet)
Integral manometer
Male Foster quick-disconnect fill fitting
7-round removable rotary magazine
Single-shot tray included
Picatinny optics rail
Barrel length: 11.75"
Weight: 6.0 lbs
Hatsan Jet I Convertible PCP Pistol
Convertible pistol or rifle
Includes removable synthetic stock
PCP
40cc air cylinder fills to 3,625 PSI/250 BAR
Shots at optimal velocity*: 21 (.22)
Magazine capacity: 7 rounds
Integrated manometer
Max. velocity (lead-free): 700 FPS (.22)
Max. velocity (lead): 700 FPS (.22)
Max. energy: 15.6 FPE (.22),
Length-adjustable buttstock
Elevation-adjustable cheek rest
Ridged rubber buttpad
Flip-up fiber optic front sight
Flip-up adjustable fiber optic rear sight
11mm Dovetail optics rail
Picatinny accessory rail
Barrel length: 7.9"
Overall length (pistol): 15"
Overall length (rifle): 22.8"-24.6"
Overall weight (pistol): 2 lbs.
Overall weight (rifle): 2.9 lbs.
Some observations: The Notos weighs 6 lbs compared to the Jet's 2 to 3 lbs! The overall length of the Notos is not given, and the barrel length does not specify is the actual rifled barrel is 11.75" or does that length include the intigrated moderator? On the specs page, buth the Notos and Jet have the Loudness listed as 3-Medium. Not sure what this is worth because the videos say the Notos is very quiet and the Jet is quite loud! The Jet 1 is listed as having a 40cc aircylinder, but the capacity of the Notos is not mentioned anywhere on PA's page, but I'm assuming it's the same or pretty close, maybe less since it's regulated. The Notos is regulated to 1900 psi, the Jet is NOT regulated. This would make you think the Jet should be able to make more power since you would have 3625 psi available from the start! If the hammer spring is tunable, you should be able to find a sweet spot that would make decent power... Other than what i just mentioned, the specs are very similar.
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For comparison purposes, here are the specs for the Umarex Notos and the Hatsan Jet 1 in .22, so we're comparing Granny Smith's to Red Delicious! ;D
Umarex Notos PCP Carbine
Precharged pneumatic
Sidelever
Uses .22 caliber pellets
Length-adjustable buttstock with Rubber Buttpad
Shrouded barrel and three-baffle SilencAir System
Max. fill pressure: 3,625 PSI (250 BAR)
Regulator pressure: 1,900 PSI
21 regulated shots per fill
Max. velocity: 700 FPS (w/ 12 gr. pellet)
Integral manometer
Male Foster quick-disconnect fill fitting
7-round removable rotary magazine
Single-shot tray included
Picatinny optics rail
Barrel length: 11.75"
Weight: 6.0 lbs
Hatsan Jet I Convertible PCP Pistol
Convertible pistol or rifle
Includes removable synthetic stock
PCP
40cc air cylinder fills to 3,625 PSI/250 BAR
Shots at optimal velocity*: 21 (.22)
Magazine capacity: 7 rounds
Integrated manometer
Max. velocity (lead-free): 700 FPS (.22)
Max. velocity (lead): 700 FPS (.22)
Max. energy: 15.6 FPE (.22),
Length-adjustable buttstock
Elevation-adjustable cheek rest
Ridged rubber buttpad
Flip-up fiber optic front sight
Flip-up adjustable fiber optic rear sight
11mm Dovetail optics rail
Picatinny accessory rail
Barrel length: 7.9"
Overall length (pistol): 15"
Overall length (rifle): 22.8"-24.6"
Overall weight (pistol): 2 lbs.
Overall weight (rifle): 2.9 lbs.
Some observations: The Notos weighs 6 lbs compared to the Jet's 2 to 3 lbs! The overall length of the Notos is not given, and the barrel length does not specify is the actual rifled barrel is 11.75" or does that length include the intigrated moderator? On the specs page, buth the Notos and Jet have the Loudness listed as 3-Medium. Not sure what this is worth because the videos say the Notos is very quiet and the Jet is quite loud! The Notos is regulated to 1900 psi, the Jet is NOT regulated. This would make you think the Jet should be able to make more power since you would have 3625 psi available from the start! If the hammer spring is tunable, you should be able to find a sweet spot that would make decent power... Other than what i just mentioned, the specs are very similar.
I wouldn't trust the 6 lbs weight on the Notos, it should be within ounces of the Jet/PP750. I'm also surprised that the Jet is listed at the same number of useful shots as the regulated Notos. I really wish either had been out when I bought my regulated Bandit from Wes, because these guns look to do the same thing with more air efficiency and power in a better package. The iron sights on the Jet are especially attractive, but I'd like to see a shot string for those 21 full power shots they are advertising.
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DJ, those specs all came from the PA website, so take them with a grain of salt! Especially the weight, experience has shown Hatsan's are typically the tanks and much heavier than anything produced by Umarex! I'm sur both of these are mostly plastic, so I woud suspect the weight to be comparable. The PA also lists the same 700 FPS for both lead-free and lead pellets for the Jet, the Notos states the same FPS, but states the pellet weight as 12 grain, which is most likely lead-free! I would suspect lead pellets to have a much lower velocity.
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DJ, those specs all came from the PA website, so take them with a grain of salt! Especially the weight, experience has shown Hatsan's are typically the tanks and much heavier than anything produced by Umarex! I'm sur both of these are mostly plastic, so I woud suspect the weight to be comparable. The PA also lists the same 700 FPS for both lead-free and lead pellets for the Jet, the Notos states the same FPS, but states the pellet weight as 12 grain, which is most likely lead-free! I would suspect lead pellets to have a much lower velocity.
They are almost the same gun, so that's why the weight shouldn't be that far off in the real world. I've seen some power specs for the Jet listed around 16 FPE for the .25 cal, which would be sending a .25 cal H&N FTT (20.06 gn) at 600 FPS.
My converted Bandito does about 525 with the FTTs in current tune and is pretty accurate at pistol range. In max power tune I hit 657 FPS with H&N crow mags and 16" barrel, but I don't have a lot of shots per fill, realistically just four at peak velocity (+/- 10 FPS). Unfortunately my notes don't specify if that was unregged or not, but I suspect it was. That was also using a Stormrider hammer spring. If my notes are to be trusted I hit 610 FPS with a 22 grain NOE wadcutter using the short barrel, but it was deafening without the LDC (I'm using one from a different SPA gun with a thread reducer). Unfortunately I shot the chronograph shortly after getting that data and the replacement has not really ever worked right.
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For comparison purposes, here are the specs for the Umarex Notos and the Hatsan Jet 1 in .22, so we're comparing Granny Smith's to Red Delicious! ;D
Umarex Notos PCP Carbine
Precharged pneumatic
Sidelever
Uses .22 caliber pellets
Length-adjustable buttstock with Rubber Buttpad
Shrouded barrel and three-baffle SilencAir System
Max. fill pressure: 3,625 PSI (250 BAR)
Regulator pressure: 1,900 PSI
21 regulated shots per fill
Max. velocity: 700 FPS (w/ 12 gr. pellet)
Integral manometer
Male Foster quick-disconnect fill fitting
7-round removable rotary magazine
Single-shot tray included
Picatinny optics rail
Barrel length: 11.75"
Weight: 6.0 lbs
Hatsan Jet I Convertible PCP Pistol
Convertible pistol or rifle
Includes removable synthetic stock
PCP
40cc air cylinder fills to 3,625 PSI/250 BAR
Shots at optimal velocity*: 21 (.22)
Magazine capacity: 7 rounds
Integrated manometer
Max. velocity (lead-free): 700 FPS (.22)
Max. velocity (lead): 700 FPS (.22)
Max. energy: 15.6 FPE (.22),
Length-adjustable buttstock
Elevation-adjustable cheek rest
Ridged rubber buttpad
Flip-up fiber optic front sight
Flip-up adjustable fiber optic rear sight
11mm Dovetail optics rail
Picatinny accessory rail
Barrel length: 7.9"
Overall length (pistol): 15"
Overall length (rifle): 22.8"-24.6"
Overall weight (pistol): 2 lbs.
Overall weight (rifle): 2.9 lbs.
Some observations: The Notos weighs 6 lbs compared to the Jet's 2 to 3 lbs! The overall length of the Notos is not given, and the barrel length does not specify is the actual rifled barrel is 11.75" or does that length include the intigrated moderator? On the specs page, buth the Notos and Jet have the Loudness listed as 3-Medium. Not sure what this is worth because the videos say the Notos is very quiet and the Jet is quite loud! The Jet 1 is listed as having a 40cc aircylinder, but the capacity of the Notos is not mentioned anywhere on PA's page, but I'm assuming it's the same or pretty close, maybe less since it's regulated. The Notos is regulated to 1900 psi, the Jet is NOT regulated. This would make you think the Jet should be able to make more power since you would have 3625 psi available from the start! If the hammer spring is tunable, you should be able to find a sweet spot that would make decent power... Other than what i just mentioned, the specs are very similar.
Paul! Thank you for laying out the specs for both! I am looking for a regulated mini carbine so the Notos comes to the top of my list for now. I'll try and be patient before I decide....no rats around now so I have time! LOL! I did have a very very slow leak on my Prod but fixed that, it was the foster fill check valve, very easy fix except for removing the old o'ring...didn't want to cut it but nicked it and voila! Ha!
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PA claims they will be in stock 12/27, but we all knows how that goes! :P I am interested in hearing your thoughts and experience with the Notos when you find one! ;D
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PA claims they will be in stock 12/27, but we all knows how that goes! :P I am interested in hearing your thoughts and experience with the Notos when you find one! ;D
Yeah..not holding my breath on when they come in stock....LOL! Also hoping you review your inbound Jet!
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Isn’t that sweet, not to front heavy shoulders good. Still have to find a pellet she likes, grouping was meh tried the 18.52 h&n barracudas again cause that’s all I have at the moment. Again this is at 13 yds and in a gun mount that is pretty solid. 250 fill first shot 684 and shot 14 598. When I open her up again to polish the barrel and hammer and such I’ll post more pics.
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Matt, thank you for the pictures! Lots of gunk on that trigger! Typical Hatsan... Good it see the metal in there, looks like it should be easy to polish up several contact points and smooth out the trigger.
What moderator are you using? I ordered an adapter from DonnyFL, it should be here Thursday as well. I have a few different moderators I will try on it, but I'm hoping the shorty Huma Air MOD 30 I use on my AP-16 will quiet it as much as it does on the AP-16.
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On pellet selection, I would suspect a Hatsan larger bore, I have a .25 Bull Boss that measures .257 :-\ Try a larger head diameter pellet ???
If I keep reading this thread I may have to go in dept and get aa Jet LOL
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James, I do have a variety of different brand .25 pellets, so I will be testing to see which perform the best. Unfortunately, most of what I have on hand are heavier pellets, so velocity won't be the best, but sometimes, that's not necessarily a bad thing! I do have some H&N FFT in 19 grain, so those are the lightest I have. Most are 25 grain or above!
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On pellet selection, I would suspect a Hatsan larger bore, I have a .25 Bull Boss that measures .257 :-\ Try a larger head diameter pellet ???
If I keep reading this thread I may have to go in dept and get aa Jet LOL
I was assuming SPA/Snowpeak would be the barrel supplier.
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On pellet selection, I would suspect a Hatsan larger bore, I have a .25 Bull Boss that measures .257 :-\ Try a larger head diameter pellet ???
If I keep reading this thread I may have to go in dept and get aa Jet LOL
I was assuming SPA/Snowpeak would be the barrel supplier.
I assumed Hatsan either made their own barrels or got them from a Turkish supplier, but now-a-days, who knows! Seems everything originates in China these days...
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On pellet selection, I would suspect a Hatsan larger bore, I have a .25 Bull Boss that measures .257 :-\ Try a larger head diameter pellet ???
If I keep reading this thread I may have to go in dept and get aa Jet LOL
I was assuming SPA/Snowpeak would be the barrel supplier.
I assumed Hatsan either made their own barrels or got them from a Turkish supplier, but now-a-days, who knows! Seems everything originates in China these days...
I'm pretty sure the whole thing is made by Snowpeak/SPA, but that's just based on how remarkably similar it is to the Notos and PP750. The main difference being the sights and option of a second tube on the Jet. Maybe Hatsan is building them under license or came up with their own thing.
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Jet 1 in .22 supposed to be here 12/23.....
but I doubt it..... 4 inches of new snow and as I write this -12... supposed to be -36 tonight here.
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Jet 1 in .22 supposed to be here 12/23.....
but I doubt it..... 4 inches of new snow and as I write this -12... supposed to be -36 tonight here.
I remember last time I had an airgun arrive during a blizzard, heard report of a Fed Ex truck in ditch the with with contents spilled not far from me TG it was one with my gun ;)
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On pellet selection, I would suspect a Hatsan larger bore, I have a .25 Bull Boss that measures .257 :-\ Try a larger head diameter pellet ???
If I keep reading this thread I may have to go in dept and get aa Jet LOL
I was assuming SPA/Snowpeak would be the barrel supplier.
I assumed Hatsan either made their own barrels or got them from a Turkish supplier, but now-a-days, who knows! Seems everything originates in China these days...
I'm pretty sure the whole thing is made by Snowpeak/SPA, but that's just based on how remarkably similar it is to the Notos and PP750. The main difference being the sights and option of a second tube on the Jet. Maybe Hatsan is building them under license or came up with their own thing.
I am hoping Turkey copied China ;) LOL
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Both guns “Veeeery Interesting”. Not for for me…..but wish u folks best-o-luck with them…..
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anyone try JSB pellets yet?
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Phil, at that price point I can make all the evil scientist mods I want, and not worry about eff'ing up a "good" gun... :)
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AGD has them in stock, all calibers
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Phil, at that price point I can make all the evil scientist mods I want, and not worry about eff'ing up a "good" gun... :)
Roger that…..Im following cause I like to see what u folks can do….good luck..
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anyone try JSB pellets yet?
Kevin, I'll be testing some different JSB's AA's FX, H&N, and any others I can scrounge up! UPS says it should be here by 9:30 pm tomorrow! I hope it shows up earlier, I'm in bed by 9:30! ;D
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when i seen in the bargain gate the 1st run of the jet was avail on ebay, i got the .22
took it out of the box, cleaned the barrel, filled it up with air and test fired to 12yrds.
no indication of impact. so i tried at 8yrds. still no luck.
installed a known good scope and tried again at 12yrds......wow !! still no luck.
then looked at the pressure gauge and it showed less that 100bar.
12 shots and less than 100bar left ?
i returned it for a refund and purchased the refurb np-03 kral.
should be here tomorrow.
my son has one and it does very well pesting at night !!
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when i seen in the bargain gate the 1st run of the jet was avail on ebay, i got the .22
took it out of the box, cleaned the barrel, filled it up with air and test fired to 12yrds.
no indication of impact. so i tried at 8yrds. still no luck.
installed a known good scope and tried again at 12yrds......wow !! still no luck.
then looked at the pressure gauge and it showed less that 100bar.
12 shots and less than 100bar left ?
i returned it for a refund and purchased the refurb np-03 kral.
should be here tomorrow.
my son has one and it does very well pesting at night !!
12 shots is pretty spot on for a 40cc tube.
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Dang John, was the magazine loaded? :P Just kidding! Doesn't sound like you got a very good one, hopefully, that's not the standard! If so, I'll be sending it back as well.
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when i seen in the bargain gate the 1st run of the jet was avail on ebay, i got the .22
took it out of the box, cleaned the barrel, filled it up with air and test fired to 12yrds.
no indication of impact. so i tried at 8yrds. still no luck.
installed a known good scope and tried again at 12yrds......wow !! still no luck.
then looked at the pressure gauge and it showed less that 100bar.
12 shots and less than 100bar left ?
i returned it for a refund and purchased the refurb np-03 kral.
should be here tomorrow.
my son has one and it does very well pesting at night !!
12 shots is pretty spot on for a 40cc tube.
really ???
what about 8yrds on a 24x24" piece of cardboard ? could that be spot... ::)
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Dang John, was the magazine loaded? :P Just kidding! Doesn't sound like you got a very good one, hopefully, that's not the standard! If so, I'll be sending it back as well.
i didnt have time to play with it, i knew right off it lacks.
so the np-03 will be here for my granddaughter just in time 8)
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when i seen in the bargain gate the 1st run of the jet was avail on ebay, i got the .22
took it out of the box, cleaned the barrel, filled it up with air and test fired to 12yrds.
no indication of impact. so i tried at 8yrds. still no luck.
installed a known good scope and tried again at 12yrds......wow !! still no luck.
then looked at the pressure gauge and it showed less that 100bar.
12 shots and less than 100bar left ?
i returned it for a refund and purchased the refurb np-03 kral.
should be here tomorrow.
my son has one and it does very well pesting at night !!
12 shots is pretty spot on for a 40cc tube.
really ???
what about 8yrds on a 24x24" piece of cardboard ? could that be spot... ::)
I don't get your complaint. I only get six good shots with my regulated bandit on a full power tune. They all hit where I'm aiming, after I establish a good zero. Not sure why you expected a scope set to zero on one gun would work on another.
Also weird that you are comparing the NPO3 to a budget pistol
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when i seen in the bargain gate the 1st run of the jet was avail on ebay, i got the .22
took it out of the box, cleaned the barrel, filled it up with air and test fired to 12yrds.
no indication of impact. so i tried at 8yrds. still no luck.
installed a known good scope and tried again at 12yrds......wow !! still no luck.
then looked at the pressure gauge and it showed less that 100bar.
12 shots and less than 100bar left ?
i returned it for a refund and purchased the refurb np-03 kral.
should be here tomorrow.
my son has one and it does very well pesting at night !!
12 shots is pretty spot on for a 40cc tube.
really ???
what about 8yrds on a 24x24" piece of cardboard ? could that be spot... ::)
I don't get your complaint. I only get six good shots with my regulated bandit on a full power tune. They all hit where I'm aiming, after I establish a good zero. Not sure why you expected a scope set to zero on one gun would work on another.
Also weird that you are comparing the NPO3 to a budget pistol
what ever dude, continue on.......
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Yeah, you would think you could hit a 24 x 24 cardboard with open sights at 8 yds. Even with a new out of the box gun.
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John, did you get one of the refurbs PA has for $219.99? If the Jet is a dud, I may exchange it for one of those, if they still have any available.
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John, did you get one of the refurbs PA has for $219.99? If the Jet is a dud, I may exchange it for one of those, if they still have any available.
yes thats what i got, the refurb
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John, did you get one of the refurbs PA has for $219.99? If the Jet is a dud, I may exchange it for one of those, if they still have any available.
yes thats what i got, the refurb
Those are a pretty good deal, will be interested in hearing how it does for ya...
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you can bet my granddaughter will be comparing it to her dads shortly after she gets it
Christmas morning. she has been shooting his since he got it. ;D
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John, did you get one of the refurbs PA has for $219.99? If the Jet is a dud, I may exchange it for one of those, if they still have any available.
If I'm not mistaken, the Np-03 has been discontinued. Better not wait too long of you really want one. I'd be all over it if I hadn't blown my airgun budget for the foreseeable future.
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Well played with Jet 2 again after work tonight and still ugh. I tried 14 shots from 250 bar down to 160 bar roughly. Changed the moderator from ronin to the fx stackable with a hair curler inside the ronin is meant for a 50 cal lol, much quieter with the stackable. So this time I used the 22 grain hybrids, it was better on the second mag but still, 13 yards indoors and in a stable shooting stance also with a digital scope and the fx chrony wouldn’t pick up the speed after 4 shots either the batteries are going or something else is going on I have some griffin slugs coming and jsb 18 gr coming to, I like the gun it’s very light especially with the ATN and IR and I love small carbines. 😔
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With that short barrel, I would think pellets may give better groups than slugs. I'm also wondering if lighter pellets would do any better, like Crosman 14.3 grain domed pellets.
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Wadcutters might even do well.
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Well, that was a bust...
Pulled the the trailer to the landfill and Dennis met met outside the office. He said it was way wet down at the dump site and I would most likely get stuck. He said he would be happy to pull me out with the loader but wouldn't be responsible for any damage.
I told him that it wasn't worth taking the chance of any of us laying in the mud and getting sick or hurt for the Holidays. He said he should have it cleaned up and ready by Tuesday. We traded Holiday greetings then Betty Lou and I came back home.
Betty Lou seems to think there is more stuff that she can get on the trailer anyhow.
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Well, that was a bust...
Pulled the the trailer to the landfill and Dennis met met outside the office. He said it was way wet down at the dump site and I would most likely get stuck. He said he would be happy to pull me out with the loader but wouldn't be responsible for any damage.
I told him that it wasn't worth taking the chance of any of us laying in the mud and getting sick or hurt for the Holidays. He said he should have it cleaned up and ready by Tuesday. We traded Holiday greetings then Betty Lou and I came back home.
Betty Lou seems to think there is more stuff that she can get on the trailer anyhow.
Bill did you get lost coming back from the dump ??? At lest it did not end up like Alice's Restaurant ;)
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sounds like this barrel may be trouble , ill be looking at the potential for a crosman barrel swap ,and if not that maybe try that old knurling choke idea. Someone on the gta did it years ago and claimed good results. ANYONE know the barrel o.d ?
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Well, that was a bust...
Pulled the the trailer to the landfill and Dennis met met outside the office. He said it was way wet down at the dump site and I would most likely get stuck. He said he would be happy to pull me out with the loader but wouldn't be responsible for any damage.
I told him that it wasn't worth taking the chance of any of us laying in the mud and getting sick or hurt for the Holidays. He said he should have it cleaned up and ready by Tuesday. We traded Holiday greetings then Betty Lou and I came back home.
Betty Lou seems to think there is more stuff that she can get on the trailer anyhow.
Bill did you get lost coming back from the dump ??? At lest it did not end up like Alice's Restaurant ;)
Funny song, I have it on the usb drive and listen to it while cruising the trails on the atv.
We had breakfast before we went then I had to wait for Betty Lou. She won't leave the house with dirty dishes in the sink. We stopped and put gas in the GMC on the way home.
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I have never had much interest in Hatsan airguns, but the price on these Jet 1&2 pistols kind of has me thinking about one.
Might be fun to experiment with.
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I have never had much interest in Hatsan airguns, but the price on these Jet 1&2 pistols kind of has me thinking about one.
Might be fun to experiment with.
My thought exactly. Most Hatsan airguns are pretty easy to work on and modify, and if you screw something up, you can usually get replacement parts through Hatsan USA!
It may need some trigger work, a shim for the hammer spring, barrel polishing, maybe some valve work, but at that price, it worth the gamble!
Also, I just learned from the SAG video that the air cylinder in the Jet 1 is hot swapable so you can get a spare and still have as many shots as the Jet 2 and maintain the slimmer design and lighter weight!
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I have never had much interest in Hatsan airguns, but the price on these Jet 1&2 pistols kind of has me thinking about one.
Might be fun to experiment with.
My thought exactly. Most Hatsan airguns are pretty easy to work on and modify, and if you screw something up, you can usually get replacement parts through Hatsan USA!
It may need some trigger work, a shim for the hammer spring, barrel polishing, maybe some valve work, but at that price, it worth the gamble!
Also, I just learned from the SAG video that the air cylinder in the Jet 1 is hot swapable so you can get a spare and still have as many shots as the Jet 2 and maintain the slimmer design and lighter weight!
Now I really want one! This could be my next hunting rig. Where do you get spare cylinders?
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I have never had much interest in Hatsan airguns, but the price on these Jet 1&2 pistols kind of has me thinking about one.
Might be fun to experiment with.
My thought exactly. Most Hatsan airguns are pretty easy to work on and modify, and if you screw something up, you can usually get replacement parts through Hatsan USA!
It may need some trigger work, a shim for the hammer spring, barrel polishing, maybe some valve work, but at that price, it worth the gamble!
Also, I just learned from the SAG video that the air cylinder in the Jet 1 is hot swapable so you can get a spare and still have as many shots as the Jet 2 and maintain the slimmer design and lighter weight!
Now I really want one! This could be my next hunting rig. Where do you get spare cylinders?
I sent an e-mail to SAG to see if they are going to stock them. Other than them, PA is the only other place I've seen the Jets for sale, but neither have the spare cylinders.
I also just read that the Sortie Magazines will fit, I just ordered one from Hatsan using their 25% off/Free Shipping Code (MEMBERS25) to see if it does work. If so, that will give me 10 rounds instead of 6! I figure for $18 it's worth a try!
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Well, that was a bust...
Pulled the the trailer to the landfill and Dennis met met outside the office. He said it was way wet down at the dump site and I would most likely get stuck. He said he would be happy to pull me out with the loader but wouldn't be responsible for any damage.
I told him that it wasn't worth taking the chance of any of us laying in the mud and getting sick or hurt for the Holidays. He said he should have it cleaned up and ready by Tuesday. We traded Holiday greetings then Betty Lou and I came back home.
Betty Lou seems to think there is more stuff that she can get on the trailer anyhow.
Bill did you get lost coming back from the dump ??? At lest it did not end up like Alice's Restaurant ;)
WHAT ?? no 8X10 color glossy ....... ;)
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Well, that was a bust...
Pulled the the trailer to the landfill and Dennis met met outside the office. He said it was way wet down at the dump site and I would most likely get stuck. He said he would be happy to pull me out with the loader but wouldn't be responsible for any damage.
I told him that it wasn't worth taking the chance of any of us laying in the mud and getting sick or hurt for the Holidays. He said he should have it cleaned up and ready by Tuesday. We traded Holiday greetings then Betty Lou and I came back home.
Betty Lou seems to think there is more stuff that she can get on the trailer anyhow.
Bill did you get lost coming back from the dump ??? At lest it did not end up like Alice's Restaurant ;)
WHAT ?? no 8X10 color glossy ....... ;)
LOL... nope, not this run.
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The Jet 1 arrived late last night, but I did un box it. The box was open, meaning the tape securing shut was cut and one of the flaps on the box was sticking out. Not sure if that means PA inspected it before sending it and just did a sloppy job of closing the box, or I got a used one!
It was half filled with air, approcximately 150 BAR, I have not checked it this morning to see if it's still the same pressure. It is very lightweight and all plastic, or polymer, to include the side lever. I loaded up 3 magazines, one each with H&N FFT 19.91 gr., JSB 25.39 gr., and some Polymag 26 gr. I was suprised to see the polymags fit, althoough without much wiggle room, so it will be interesting to see how they feed. The spring in the magazine is pretty strong, much more so that Crosman magazines, so they should be ample tension to advance the magazine even witht e tight tolarances of the Polymags.
I'm not sure how much shooting I'll be doing this weekend since the temps dropped to 28 this morning, with a windchill of 18! Hight through Monday are only predicted to reach the high 30's, with the wind chills only reaching into the high 20's, so this Florida boy will be staying inside!
Today, I'll clean the barrel and top it off with air and see if it holds, and will take a few pictures as well. It wind dies down and I can muster the nearves to brave the elements, i may through a magzine or 2 down range to see if I can hit the target! More to come...
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Don't blame you for the delay Paul, I had to sight in a Thor LT on my Recluse, I did that in the balmy basement and not the single digits outside them 40 degree temp changes are bitter ;)
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James, I wish I had a basement to shoot in, but I don't and the Mrs isn't too keen on me shooting in the house, unless it's out the back window of my work room! But, it's too cold to have a window open, so that's out as well!
I did snap a few quick pics, and it's holding air, so that's a good sign. It uses the same DonntFL adapter as the AA S510, so these pics show it with that installed. I do like the large "T: handle on the side lever, it's not as low profile as the side lever on the AP-16, but it's much easier to grab and coc, especially with gloves on!
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looks good , i can see from the breech its not a straw barrel , so thats good news. Mine is " weather delayed "with UPS so im betting it wont be here till monday..
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Any hints that it is made by SPA, or does it seem pure Turkish ???
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Well, it says "Made in Turkiye by Hatsan" on the side of it! Unless that's the Chinese translation for Turkey, I'd say it's probably made by Hatsan in Turkey, or at least assembled there. There are no visible markings anywhere the indicate the parts are from China, but who know these days!
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Well, it says "Made in Turkiye by Hatsan" on the side of it! Unless that's the Chinese translation for Turkey, I'd say it's probably made by Hatsan in Turkey, or at least assembled there. There are no visible markings anywhere the indicate the parts are from China, but who know these days!
I'm impressed that Hatsan seems to have quietly developed a new platform.
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Turkey adopted its official name, Türkiye Cumhuriyeti, known in English as the Republic of Turkey, upon the declaration of the republic on 29 October 1923.
Obviously I looked it up and did a copy/paste.. I'm not that smart.. :o
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Turkey adopted its official name, Türkiye Cumhuriyeti, known in English as the Republic of Turkey, upon the declaration of the republic on 29 October 1923.
Obviously I looked it up and did a copy/paste.. I'm not that smart.. :o
LOL! Geez, I was really impressed before I read the last line of your post! ;D Should have stopped after that very intellegent first response! LOL!
So, back the the review...
A few more interesting observations. First, mounting a scope to this think is going to be interesting... The front rail will accomodate a Picatinny Mount or a Dovetail mount, but the rear (behind the breach) will only accomodate a dovetail maount, even though it's made to look like a Picatinny rail! Also, because the front mount has to go infront of the middle site, it's going to be very difficult, if not impossible to mount a compact scope with out getting really creative with the mount! You can see the difference in the rails below. Lastly, the foster fitting did not fit the female fitting on my compressor, it was too fat! Fortunately, Hatsan included a really nice extented fitting, so I swapped them and all is good!
For now, I think I'm just going to see if I can sight it in using the iron sights and keep it a close quarters/short range shooter. I have filled it to 250 BAR and now it sits. It is supposed to be sunny all day today, so if the wind dies down enough for the wind chill to not impact the actual temature, I may go out back and see how it shoots!
The last shows how I currently have it set up, witht he stock attached and the Tacti-cool Impulse Air Moderator up front! More to come...
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Very nice Paul! Congratulations! Hope ya got yourself a shooter! Great looking lil carbine! Keep us updated on things.
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Paul did the LDC adatper come with it or something you had and added it?
Looks good with the can on it
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mines local now , scheduled for delivery tommroow , had no idea UPs was running christmas eve
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Very nice Paul! Congratulations! Hope ya got yourself a shooter! Great looking lil carbine! Keep us updated on things.
Thank you Randall! I did get a chance to shoot it this afternoon. It likes the H&N FFT 19 grain pellets! Below is a target of one 6 round magazine at 15 yards. This is with te iron sight, shooting from the kneeling position, with no rest. The group pretty decent, but shoot to the left, and there is no adjustment for windage!
I did finally work our a scope arrangement that works! I attached a 3-9X32 Bug Buster on an offset dovetail mount behing the breach opening. This worked out really well, and the whole carbine is still extremely light weight! Tomorrow I hope to run it over the chrony and zero the Bug Buster, but till then, here are a couple pics of it's current configuration.
Paul did the LDC adatper come with it or something you had and added it?
Looks good with the can on it
Dan, it did not come with it, but the same adapter that works on the AA S510 works perfectly on the Jet, so I just pulled it from the S510 till I get one specifically for it. I will say that it is extremely quiet with the Air Impulse moderator!
mines local now , scheduled for delivery tommroow , had no idea UPs was running christmas eve
I hope you get a good one! Mine has had some hiccups, but it's running pretty good now. I did loose all it's air after I filled it this morning. Not sure why. I refilled it and could hear it leaking out of where the air cylinder screws onto the block. I removed the air cylinder, put a little silicone grease on the end and threads that screw into the cylinder and reattached it. I filled it again to 250 BAR and no leak! I've run about 10 magazine through it trying the iron sights and different red dots and scopes. I think the Bug Buster is going to stay on it. The temps are dropping again, so I topped it back off to 250 BAR and will let it sit overnight and see if it holds a full charge. Please feel free to add your experiences here when you get yours!
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I almost forgot, I did hear back from Hatsan regarding spare air cylinders. Here's what they said:
The Jet cylinders will be available early next year. The Jet I additional cylinders will be available in black, green, blue, and red, and the MSRP for them is $79.99 each. The Jet II dual cylinders can also be used on the Jet I. Those dual cylinders will also be available in the same colors for $129.99.
Good to know a Jet 1 can be converted to a Jet 2 if you want to...
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very good Paul.... i could'nt hit squat at 8yrds from open sight and 12 yrds with know good scope after correct bore sighting. :o
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oh well. back to drawing board.... ::)
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Paul! You group better with iron sights than I do with an FFP scope....LOL! 😂 excellent group! Awesome little set-up! FYI....here is a cool inexpensive little scope that has a parallax wheel that focuses down to 10yds with a great IR reticle for 82 bucks....gonna get one for my Prod or....
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fire-Wolf-2-7X24-Tactical-Scope-Reticle-Optical-Rifle-Scope-Riflescopes-Hunting/194972022740?_trkparms=amclksrc=ITM&aid=1110006&algo=HOMESPLICE.SIM&ao=1&asc=20200818142055&meid=e05a4e78a65f470c9e7c280036d596d8&pid=101113&rk=1&rkt=12&sd=203487726320&itm=194972022740&pmt=0&noa=1&pg=2563228&algv=DefaultOrganic&_trksid=p2563228.c101113.m2109&pageci=2e612401-d6d4-447a-8190-46fc11e5f6c8&redirect=mobile (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fire-Wolf-2-7X24-Tactical-Scope-Reticle-Optical-Rifle-Scope-Riflescopes-Hunting/194972022740?_trkparms=amclksrc=ITM&aid=1110006&algo=HOMESPLICE.SIM&ao=1&asc=20200818142055&meid=e05a4e78a65f470c9e7c280036d596d8&pid=101113&rk=1&rkt=12&sd=203487726320&itm=194972022740&pmt=0&noa=1&pg=2563228&algv=DefaultOrganic&_trksid=p2563228.c101113.m2109&pageci=2e612401-d6d4-447a-8190-46fc11e5f6c8&redirect=mobile)
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Paul! You group better with iron sights than I do with an FFP scope....LOL! 😂 excellent group! Awesome little set-up! FYI....here is a cool inexpensive little scope that has a parallax wheel that focuses down to 10yds with a great IR reticle for 82 bucks....gonna get one for my Prod or....
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fire-Wolf-2-7X24-Tactical-Scope-Reticle-Optical-Rifle-Scope-Riflescopes-Hunting/194972022740?_trkparms=amclksrc=ITM&aid=1110006&algo=HOMESPLICE.SIM&ao=1&asc=20200818142055&meid=e05a4e78a65f470c9e7c280036d596d8&pid=101113&rk=1&rkt=12&sd=203487726320&itm=194972022740&pmt=0&noa=1&pg=2563228&algv=DefaultOrganic&_trksid=p2563228.c101113.m2109&pageci=2e612401-d6d4-447a-8190-46fc11e5f6c8&redirect=mobile (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fire-Wolf-2-7X24-Tactical-Scope-Reticle-Optical-Rifle-Scope-Riflescopes-Hunting/194972022740?_trkparms=amclksrc=ITM&aid=1110006&algo=HOMESPLICE.SIM&ao=1&asc=20200818142055&meid=e05a4e78a65f470c9e7c280036d596d8&pid=101113&rk=1&rkt=12&sd=203487726320&itm=194972022740&pmt=0&noa=1&pg=2563228&algv=DefaultOrganic&_trksid=p2563228.c101113.m2109&pageci=2e612401-d6d4-447a-8190-46fc11e5f6c8&redirect=mobile)
Thanks Randall! That is a nice little scope, please let us know how you like it! I have more scopes than I have air guns, so I hate to get another one, but if it's a good one, it may be worth it at that price!
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Paul! You group better with iron sights than I do with an FFP scope....LOL! 😂 excellent group! Awesome little set-up! FYI....here is a cool inexpensive little scope that has a parallax wheel that focuses down to 10yds with a great IR reticle for 82 bucks....gonna get one for my Prod or....
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fire-Wolf-2-7X24-Tactical-Scope-Reticle-Optical-Rifle-Scope-Riflescopes-Hunting/194972022740?_trkparms=amclksrc=ITM&aid=1110006&algo=HOMESPLICE.SIM&ao=1&asc=20200818142055&meid=e05a4e78a65f470c9e7c280036d596d8&pid=101113&rk=1&rkt=12&sd=203487726320&itm=194972022740&pmt=0&noa=1&pg=2563228&algv=DefaultOrganic&_trksid=p2563228.c101113.m2109&pageci=2e612401-d6d4-447a-8190-46fc11e5f6c8&redirect=mobile (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fire-Wolf-2-7X24-Tactical-Scope-Reticle-Optical-Rifle-Scope-Riflescopes-Hunting/194972022740?_trkparms=amclksrc=ITM&aid=1110006&algo=HOMESPLICE.SIM&ao=1&asc=20200818142055&meid=e05a4e78a65f470c9e7c280036d596d8&pid=101113&rk=1&rkt=12&sd=203487726320&itm=194972022740&pmt=0&noa=1&pg=2563228&algv=DefaultOrganic&_trksid=p2563228.c101113.m2109&pageci=2e612401-d6d4-447a-8190-46fc11e5f6c8&redirect=mobile)
Thanks Randall! That is a nice little scope, please let us know how you like it! I have more scopes than I have air guns, so I hate to get another one, but if it's a good one, it may be worth it at that price!
Will do 👍
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very good Paul.... i could'nt hit squat at 8yrds from open sight and 12 yrds with know good scope after correct bore sighting. :o
You definately got a lemon, John! Hopefully, the replacement Kral you have coming will be accurate! I will say that the Jet is extremely lightweight and would have been a great airgun for your grand daughter, but if she's getting the same air gun as her Dad, I think she will be thrilled!
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very good Paul.... i could'nt hit squat at 8yrds from open sight and 12 yrds with know good scope after correct bore sighting. :o
You definately got a lemon, John! Hopefully, the replacement Kral you have coming will be accurate! I will say that the Jet is extremely lightweight and would have been a great airgun for your grand daughter, but if she's getting the same air gun as her Dad, I think she will be thrilled!
Wonder if Gendocs real name is John Lemmon ??? ;)
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LOL! Not funny... ;D
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:o
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Hatsan makes some good guns for the price CS could be a lot better.
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very good Paul.... i could'nt hit squat at 8yrds from open sight and 12 yrds with know good scope after correct bore sighting. :o
You definately got a lemon, John! Hopefully, the replacement Kral you have coming will be accurate! I will say that the Jet is extremely lightweight and would have been a great airgun for your grand daughter, but if she's getting the same air gun as her Dad, I think she will be thrilled!
Wonder if Gendocs real name is John Lemmon ??? ;)
lmbo
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;D ;D ;D
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got mine , was just outside shooting .. Its got some crack to it ! accuracy with open sights was good , I was hitting a tree branch over and over at 30 feet. Few things, the barrel appears to be 10mm, more to come on that.. ALSO , its got some serious hammeer spring in there, I can tell from the sidelever force,. made a 1/2-20 adapter for the muzzle , dont have an ldc for it , but no ones outside anyway , its too cold.
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Here are some chrony numbers:
Shot count: 12
Low: 576
Hi: 623
Avg: 607
Spread: 47
STD Dev: 16.2
608
618
623
623
622
618
615
602
600
592
583
576
This is from 250 BAR to 150 BAR. It will do one more magazine, taking it to 100 BAR, but velocity drops a good bit more. It's not the most powerful air gun, but for it's size and weight, I'm really enjoying it!
The biggest negatives for me are the lack of windage adjustment on the iron sights, and the small air capicity that really limits the effective shot count to around 12 (two magazines). But other than that, it's really a step up from other Hatsan's I've owned!
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got mine , was just outside shooting .. Its got some crack to it ! accuracy with open sights was good , I was hitting a tree branch over and over at 30 feet. Few things, the barrel appears to be 10mm, more to come on that.. ALSO , its got some serious hammeer spring in there, I can tell from the sidelever force,. made a 1/2-20 adapter for the muzzle , dont have an ldc for it , but no ones outside anyway , its too cold.
Good to hear you got yours Dan! Hopefully, the windage on your iron sites is better than mine! I'm not shot mine without the LDC, but it's super quite with it.
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took the barrel and shroud off, the barrel is actually 12mm , the knub at the rear is 10mm. Theres an oring inisde the barreel to seal the probe.. The entire shroud and barrel assembly come off with 4 screws. Transfer port is pretty big didnt measure it ,,, My windage was off to the left a bit ,, crosman barrels will not be drop in, theyd need a sleeve at the rear, and be remachined,
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2 screws the shroud comes right off
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havent done a string yet .. prob gonna shoot some more before that.. Overall , I like the gun.. Its amazing how far airguns have come in price and options in the last 13 yrs since i really got into it ..
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took the barrel and shroud off, the barrel is actually 12mm , the knub at the rear is 10mm. Theres an oring inisde the barreel to seal the probe.. The entire shroud and barrel assembly come off with 4 screws. Transfer port is pretty big didnt measure it ,,, My windage was off to the left a bit ,, crosman barrels will not be drop in, theyd need a sleeve at the rear, and be remachined,
Mine shoots about 1½" to the left also with the iron sights. It would have been nice to have a windage adjustment!
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took the barrel and shroud off, the barrel is actually 12mm , the knub at the rear is 10mm. Theres an oring inisde the barreel to seal the probe.. The entire shroud and barrel assembly come off with 4 screws. Transfer port is pretty big didnt measure it ,,, My windage was off to the left a bit ,, crosman barrels will not be drop in, theyd need a sleeve at the rear, and be remachined,
Mine shoots about 1½" to the left also with the iron sights. It would have been nice to have a windage adjustment!
THATS WHAT I'M TALKIN ABOUT !!!
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about the same PAul.. went to the shop , whipped up a dollar general ldc .windchimes and washeers ..
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not super quiet but good enough for shooting in the yard.. ANyway, gonna need a scope , or really mess with the windage somehow.. still left , an inch at 5 yrds >:( have a scope , but its a rifle scope , and i prefer this gun as a pistol
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come to think of it , messing with the barrel screws could change the alignment just enough .. Have to investigate further.
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about the same PAul.. went to the shop , whipped up a dollar general ldc .windchimes and washeers ..
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52583986104_c5af209bae_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o7EF55)20221224_140503 (https://flic.kr/p/2o7EF55) by murphyrobert9 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/56743574@N07/), on Flickr
not super quiet but good enough for shooting in the yard.. ANyway, gonna need a scope , or really mess with the windage somehow.. still left , an inch at 5 yrds >:( have a scope , but its a rifle scope , and i prefer this gun as a pistol
LOL! Great use of a wind chime! I put a Bug Buster on mine, and it's working out great! It's really compact and lightweight, a perfect match for the Jet! I just got my first rat with it! I'm really liking it!
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=204908.0 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=204908.0)
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come to think of it , messing with the barrel screws could change the alignment just enough .. Have to investigate further.
Good point, I tightened them after I got it and before I shot it, I got to wonder if it may have knocked it off a little. Let me know how it works out for you!
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the front sight adjusts for windage , back off the phillips head by the front sight
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theres no fine adjustment , its all manual.. so might take trial and error to get it right , but i adjusted mine .. almost dead nuts now , few more mags
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Thanks Rob! I didn't think to look at the front sight! Getting too cold out now, but will have to see what I can do when it warms up some tomorrow.
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i tried all i could do with both sights......no luck !
its ok, the NP-03 i got for my Granddaughter is absolutely
bad @$$................. ;D
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i tried all i could do with both sights......no luck !
its ok, the NP-03 i got for my Granddaughter is absolutely
bad @$$................. ;D
That's awesome John! I'm sure she is going to love it, and the shot count will be much better as well. I know kids don't have a lot of patience, so having to refill after 12-14 shots could have been a real buzz kill for her! ;D
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i tried to load pics, but my new phone makes big KB pics and this site wont allow that much.
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i tried all i could do with both sights......no luck !
its ok, the NP-03 i got for my Granddaughter is absolutely
bad @$$................. ;D
That's awesome John! I'm sure she is going to love it, and the shot count will be much better as well. I know kids don't have a lot of patience, so having to refill after 12-14 shots could have been a real buzz kill for her! ;D
x 2 ;)
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i tried to load pics, but my new phone makes big KB pics and this site wont allow that much.
A trick to reduce file size. Take picture from a ways back then crop the picture using the edit feature.
Dave
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i tried to load pics, but my new phone makes big KB pics and this site wont allow that much.
A trick to reduce file size. Take picture from a ways back then crop the picture using the edit feature.
Dave
There's a better way. Go into the settings and reduce the photo quality directly. Then go back and increase quality if you need to for future photos.
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... or just email the pic to yourself... it will reduce itself.
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... or just email the pic to yourself... it will reduce itself.
That's what I do, works well!
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... or just email the pic to yourself... it will reduce itself.
If the photos are small enough that you can attach them. If you use Microsoft One Drive you can download the photo from the cloud to your PC and then resize it very easily. This is what I do since 108mp photos are usually larger than the email will allow me to attach. There are several cloud services though Samsung, Apple, Google, etc. That offer the same thing as Microsoft One Drive.
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... or just email the pic to yourself... it will reduce itself.
That's what I do, works well!
thats how i do it also, but it didnt work on this picture.
grandson is going to fix me up later 8)
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If you have windows 7 and above, the snipping tool is the easiest and most handy. I keep it attached to my taskbar.
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... or just email the pic to yourself... it will reduce itself.
That's what I do, works well!
thats how i do it also, but it didnt work on this picture.
grandson is going to fix me up later 8)
Merry Christmas John! Looking forward to seeing those pics!
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... or just email the pic to yourself... it will reduce itself.
That's what I do, works well!
thats how i do it also, but it didnt work on this picture.
grandson is going to fix me up later 8)
Sounds like we have the same phone, Galaxy S22 Ultra. If you don't want to wait for the calvary, when you open the camera at the top of the screen you will see something that says (4:3 108mp) or something close. Tap that and change to regular 4:3 and the photos should be small enough to attach to an email. I watched a few YouTube videos on my phone features after purchasing. It had been six years since I last bought a smartphone!
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If you have windows 7 and above, the snipping tool is the easiest and most handy. I keep it attached to my taskbar.
I'm an apple guy, but Merry Christmas Bill!
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If you have windows 7 and above, the snipping tool is the easiest and most handy. I keep it attached to my taskbar.
If you open photos with the default photo viewing program on your PC there's a button just to resize images. It has a few default settings, one of which is "email size" resolution which is perfect for forum posts as well, if you only post a few pics at a time.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE !!
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MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE !!
Pretty sweet! What does that set up weight?
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its advertised as being 5.75lb, on the hoof as you see it.....maybe 7.5lb
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That's still pretty light! I need to put the Jet on a scale as it's set up and see what it weighs!
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some teardown info
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the top part of the breech and sidelver assembly comes off with 2 screws , very simple design
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the hammer assembly is pretty basic , but in order to access it , the grip needs to come off ,, this is whats seen from the top
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52587297751_2b9a1d0bb3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o7XDvr)20221226_102632 (https://flic.kr/p/2o7XDvr) by murphyrobert9 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/56743574@N07/), on Flickr
this is the basic action below , pulling the tube under pressure is no problem , but takes an adult grip unless the barrel is removed forst
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52587560914_41295a08de_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o7YZJJ)20221226_104319 (https://flic.kr/p/2o7YZJJ) by murphyrobert9 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/56743574@N07/), on Flickr
this is where it gets interesting , the valve stem is solid steel , and seats on a nhylon valve base.. so the poppet itself will last forever .. I can also tell that early on they had a problem with blowback in the hammer chamber, because they added a tiny oring to the rear of the stem,, this can be common in monoblock designs where the hammer channel has no vent
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52586827417_33b07bcf8b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o7VeGe)20221226_103931 (https://flic.kr/p/2o7VeGe) by murphyrobert9 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/56743574@N07/), on Flickr
also noteworthy in the above photo , the plenum is TINYYYY
the hammer spring is robust , .047 wire , .322 diameter, and 36mm long.
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2 things i determined.. ONE is that the cost analysis engineer is borderline genius , everything that can be made from a mold/composites was done so. Things like the embedded nuts in the plastic mold , thats a trick from 3d printing where you have all plastic but need a steel anchor. TWO - its like a lego set, theres nothing complex taking place inside , easy to assumble or dissasemble , everything is somewhat modular. I didnt have a heavier hamemr spring ( like .054 wire ) but i think the results would be a mixed bag. The plenum size with tiny through passage from the tank limits velocity more than hammer force , they have that part covered.
heres the tank connection , the seal is inside the tank
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I didnt take apart the trigger since its already decent and somone else posted that pic earlier in the week. There is an external adjustment that can be used, but im thinking the grip needs to be removed to access it .
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Rob, I saw that trigger adjustment screw and it is mentioned in the manual, but I'm with you, without an access hole, it's going to be tough to get to! Thank you for posting the tear down pics, it seems to be pretty straight forward. Is the hammer spring a common size, like the same as a MRod or PRod?
Today I mounted the OneLeaf NV 100 to the Bugbuster so now, hopefully, I'll be able to record some shots and maybe even get in some night time sniping! Even with all that gear, it still weighs in at excatly 5 lbs and with the shorter STO Pugio LDC, it's just under 29" long, with the stock fully extended! Here's a couple pics of te current set-up:
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Cool compact and simple platforms! Enjoy shooting them!
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its most similar to a 2240 hammer spring , but .010 larger o.d , and far stronger at .047 wire compared to a 2240 which is .035 ish. Mcmaster would be the place for a stronger spring , but im not sure its worth it given the fixed plenum size of 2-3 cc .
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Cool compact and simple platforms! Enjoy shooting them!
Thanks Randall! Hard to believe it's still only 5 lbs, even with all that junk hanging off it!
its most similar to a 2240 hammer spring , but .010 larger o.d , and far stronger at .047 wire compared to a 2240 which is .035 ish. Mcmaster would be the place for a stronger spring , but im not sure its worth it given the fixed plenum size of 2-3 cc .
I think I agree with you. Since mine had no probem taking out a fairly large rat at 17 yards, I think I'm going to leave it bone stock... For now! ;D
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Well I think I found something out with my gun. It doesn’t like moderators, I polished the barrel again also I polished the hammer and hammer spring. I took off moderator and shot 14.3 crosman premiers and the groups were not bad at 13 yds. The gun cocs so much nicer after a polish so I tried jsb 18.54 and not so good. Not gonna give up!! I think the mod is not lining up properly no matter which one I use. It might be because “ the shroud that covers the barrel” is not square so to say or the thread in the shroud is not square.
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Matt try an oring on the threads of the LDC if that is possible. Tighten just enough to begin to crush the oring, that may help with alignment, that or custom brass washer etc..
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Matt, what moderator are your using? Have you tried another one to see if it's the moderator or the shroud? What adapter are your using to attach the moderator?
I have tried a couple different moderators on mint using a DonnyFL adapter and so fr 2 of the 3 I've tried had no impact on POI, one did!
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I have to go back to work tomorrow but the next step is gonna take barrel and shroud off and re align off the gun and look thru the barrel with shroud and moderater on and see what it looks like. I will try every ones suggestions. Thank you guys!I really like this gun, short sweet and simple!
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The Hatsan Sortie Magazine arrived today, and I can verify, it does work in the Jet! In fact, it even works with a scope and the iron sites! It's only 4 more rounds (10 v. 6), but even those extra few rounds before having to swap a magazine are nice.
I did play with the front site adjustment some, but it is finiky! I need to place it in a sled on a bench and use a punch and light hammer to gently nidge it one way or the other to get it truely centered. Trying to push it back and forth with my fingers does not allow for very intricate adjustments. But I did get it closer. That's a 2" target shot from 20 yards. Without the scope and camera, this thing is unbelievibly light and easy to maneuver! The STO Pugio LCD is also very lightweight and compact, while doing an excellent job of silencing the bark! Better than the longer Air Impulse I had on it!
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It doesn’t like moderators
Might was clipping the end cap.... retightened it on the adapter, the retightened on the gun. Wondering if maybe it needs tape or such (like the Diasy 880s do) on the end of the barrel to snug it up and center it. the O ring does seem to help
or maybe the can is too long,,,, its the custom made one for my Sentry (which didnt work... long and different story for another post) at 8inches long.... is quiet though
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Well I'm completely out of the H&N FFT's until my order arrives from Hatsan! But, I did try some AA 25.39 grain pellets and while the velocity was lower, the FPE was a foot pound higher! ;D Here's a shot string from the 10 shot Sortie magazine:
Shot count: 10
Low: 554
Hi: 578
Avg: 570
Spread: 24
STD Dev: 8.0
564
575
574
578
578
575
572
566
562
554
Here's video of a 6 shot string, shooting the AA 25.39 gr pellts at 17 yards.
https://youtu.be/dtXo16KSH58
Below is a different 6 shot string with the AA Pellets, same distance.
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One gripe so far.... the fill nipple seems to be oversized, and Im fighting with it to get the air hose connector on the nipple.
have sanded a little, filed a little and have got it on, then fight to get it off.... ah new gun issues :)
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One gripe so far.... the fill nipple seems to be oversized, and Im fighting with it to get the air hose connector on the nipple.
have sanded a little, filed a little and have got it on, then fight to get it off.... ah new gun issues :)
Are you using the female foster fitting that came with it? The one I had on my compressor hose was too small to fit the fitting on the gun, so I swapped it for the one that came with it and have no problems now. It’s a much nicer fitting as well, so no complaints here. It also fits all my other guns as well, that’s a plus!
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One gripe so far.... the fill nipple seems to be oversized, and Im fighting with it to get the air hose connector on the nipple.
have sanded a little, filed a little and have got it on, then fight to get it off.... ah new gun issues :)
Are you using the female foster fitting that came with it? The one I had on my compressor hose was too small to fit the fitting on the gun, so I swapped it for the one that came with it and have no problems now. It’s a much nicer fitting as well, so no complaints here. It also fits all my other guns as well, that’s a plus!
Ok thats what I was wondering. SO I'll swap that one on and stop dinking with the fill nipple...
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you guys have american made fill whips ( hahahaha dont you know everyone cool has china fill whips now )
the difference between 5/16 and 8mm is the issue .
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I think I made some progress, and I’m probably too picky for a $330 dollar gun. After realigning the barrel and “shroud” and using the fx mod and the crosman premiere 14.3 I got this tonight 26 shots over all only 22 were recorded on fx chrony at 13 yards indoors. A side note I moved the barrel all the way up to the threaded part on shroud but when doing so the mag is loose and does not stay so I had to hold the mag during each cycle I will try and put barrel back and see what happens.
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I think I can live with that lol thanks Paul for the tip on the sortie mag it works great!!
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some teardown info
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the top part of the breech and sidelver assembly comes off with 2 screws , very simple design
Next
the hammer assembly is pretty basic , but in order to access it , the grip needs to come off ,, this is whats seen from the top
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52587297751_2b9a1d0bb3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o7XDvr)20221226_102632 (https://flic.kr/p/2o7XDvr) by murphyrobert9 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/56743574@N07/), on Flickr
this is the basic action below , pulling the tube under pressure is no problem , but takes an adult grip unless the barrel is removed forst
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52587560914_41295a08de_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o7YZJJ)20221226_104319 (https://flic.kr/p/2o7YZJJ) by murphyrobert9 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/56743574@N07/), on Flickr
this is where it gets interesting , the valve stem is solid steel , and seats on a nhylon valve base.. so the poppet itself will last forever .. I can also tell that early on they had a problem with blowback in the hammer chamber, because they added a tiny oring to the rear of the stem,, this can be common in monoblock designs where the hammer channel has no vent
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52586827417_33b07bcf8b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o7VeGe)20221226_103931 (https://flic.kr/p/2o7VeGe) by murphyrobert9 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/56743574@N07/), on Flickr
also noteworthy in the above photo , the plenum is TINYYYY
the hammer spring is robust , .047 wire , .322 diameter, and 36mm long.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52587306271_252673f61c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o7XG3k)20221226_104448 (https://flic.kr/p/2o7XG3k) by murphyrobert9 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/56743574@N07/), on Flickr
2 things i determined.. ONE is that the cost analysis engineer is borderline genius , everything that can be made from a mold/composites was done so. Things like the embedded nuts in the plastic mold , thats a trick from 3d printing where you have all plastic but need a steel anchor. TWO - its like a lego set, theres nothing complex taking place inside , easy to assumble or dissasemble , everything is somewhat modular. I didnt have a heavier hamemr spring ( like .054 wire ) but i think the results would be a mixed bag. The plenum size with tiny through passage from the tank limits velocity more than hammer force , they have that part covered.
heres the tank connection , the seal is inside the tank
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52587328126_1c333576a4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2o7XNx9)20221226_103215 (https://flic.kr/p/2o7XNx9) by murphyrobert9 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/56743574@N07/), on Flickr
Thanks for the pics, Rob. As you said, looks like a lot of composite material was used. Does it seem like a strong material? Did you see anything critical that you think they should've used metal for?
Is the reservoir adapter removable? Just curious if it would be possible to make a plenum spacer for it to up the power a touch.
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Hey Paulie, Fix the Cant on your scope, I feel like I'm watching an episode of the old Batman TV series.... :o :o ;D
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Hey Paulie, Fix the Cant on your scope, I feel like I'm watching an episode of the old Batman TV series.... :o :o ;D
LOL! I noticed that also. Funny thing, when I'm looking at it through the scope, there is no cant! I need to do some more testing to ensure it's not something wrong with the NV-100...
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This is the one keeps me from getting a Jet.
It began as an SPA CP1 and grew into a PP800.
It runs a mid to upper 600 fps with 8.4 .177.
I know it's under classed in comparison but it satisfies me.
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This is the one keeps me from getting a Jet.
It began as an SPA CP1 and grew into a PP800.
It runs a mid to upper 600 fps with 8.4 .177.
I know it's under classed in comparison but it satisfies me.
Same here. My bandit is setup very similar, but regulated for six full power shots sending 20.06 grain 25 cal FTT's at 600+ (chronograph is broken so I don't know exactly). If I didn't already have the Bandit a Jet 1 or 2 would be on order.
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I don't know.. I also had alot of fun with the process of taking the CP1 through the phases it went through to get where it is now. Tinkering/modding with no certain goal is a very satisfying part of the airgun experience for me.
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The Hatsan Sortie Magazine arrived today, and I can verify, it does work in the Jet! In fact, it even works with a scope and the iron sites! It's only 4 more rounds (10 v. 6), but even those extra few rounds before having to swap a magazine are nice.
I did play with the front site adjustment some, but it is finiky! I need to place it in a sled on a bench and use a punch and light hammer to gently nidge it one way or the other to get it truely centered. Trying to push it back and forth with my fingers does not allow for very intricate adjustments. But I did get it closer. That's a 2" target shot from 20 yards. Without the scope and camera, this thing is unbelievibly light and easy to maneuver! The STO Pugio LCD is also very lightweight and compact, while doing an excellent job of silencing the bark! Better than the longer Air Impulse I had on it!
I just ordered the Sortie magazine for my Jet 2 in .25 caliber. Be sure to check out my Youtube channel for more tips and info on the Hatsan Jet. @ Fowler Airguns @ Youtube
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I'd like to thank all of you for talking me into this while they were on sale. I really thought I was going to make through last year without buying another airgun...
I cleaned the barrel and danced a can around the yard late yesterday afternoon. You'd think that this thing came from Tim McMurray, the sights were dead on. The stock works well and without it's as much fun as my IZH46 except the cans don't last as long.
Today I had time to mount and sight in the red dot. It's a little too soggy here to access my 40 yard range so I made do with 13 yards. I had four shots left in the mag after reaching zero. I picked a new dot, one was a slight flyer and the other three cut center in one slightly ragged hole. Unfortunately there wasn't enough light for the chrono but judging from the damage to the can from the previous afternoon it's hitting harder than my Prod with Crosman 14.3s.
Hearing protection is recommended, it has quite a crack and seems louder than my 30 cal Leshiy 2 with the short 250mm barrel.
I haven't been this pleasantly surprised with an airgun since Tim insisted that purchase his last IZH46.
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I'd like to thank all of you for talking me into this while they were on sale. I really thought I was going to make through last year without buying another airgun...
I cleaned the barrel and danced a can around the yard late yesterday afternoon. You'd think that this thing came from Tim McMurray, the sights were dead on. The stock works well and without it's as much fun as my IZH46 except the cans don't last as long.
Today I had time to mount and sight in the red dot. It's a little too soggy here to access my 40 yard range so I made do with 13 yards. I had four shots left in the mag after reaching zero. I picked a new dot, one was a slight flyer and the other three cut center in one slightly ragged hole. Unfortunately there wasn't enough light for the chrono but judging from the damage to the can from the previous afternoon it's hitting harder than my Prod with Crosman 14.3s.
Hearing protection is recommended, it has quite a crack and seems louder than my 30 cal Leshiy 2 with the short 250mm barrel.
I haven't been this pleasantly surprised with an airgun since Tim insisted that purchase his last IZH46.
agreed its a lot of gun for not much money at all. mines very accurate but havent gone for any distance yet.. been shooting mostly as a pistol
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I'd like to thank all of you for talking me into this while they were on sale. I really thought I was going to make through last year without buying another airgun...
I cleaned the barrel and danced a can around the yard late yesterday afternoon. You'd think that this thing came from Tim McMurray, the sights were dead on. The stock works well and without it's as much fun as my IZH46 except the cans don't last as long.
Today I had time to mount and sight in the red dot. It's a little too soggy here to access my 40 yard range so I made do with 13 yards. I had four shots left in the mag after reaching zero. I picked a new dot, one was a slight flyer and the other three cut center in one slightly ragged hole. Unfortunately there wasn't enough light for the chrono but judging from the damage to the can from the previous afternoon it's hitting harder than my Prod with Crosman 14.3s.
Hearing protection is recommended, it has quite a crack and seems louder than my 30 cal Leshiy 2 with the short 250mm barrel.
I haven't been this pleasantly surprised with an airgun since Tim insisted that purchase his last IZH46.
I like your optic, any details?
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I'd like to thank all of you for talking me into this while they were on sale. I really thought I was going to make through last year without buying another airgun...
I cleaned the barrel and danced a can around the yard late yesterday afternoon. You'd think that this thing came from Tim McMurray, the sights were dead on. The stock works well and without it's as much fun as my IZH46 except the cans don't last as long.
Today I had time to mount and sight in the red dot. It's a little too soggy here to access my 40 yard range so I made do with 13 yards. I had four shots left in the mag after reaching zero. I picked a new dot, one was a slight flyer and the other three cut center in one slightly ragged hole. Unfortunately there wasn't enough light for the chrono but judging from the damage to the can from the previous afternoon it's hitting harder than my Prod with Crosman 14.3s.
Hearing protection is recommended, it has quite a crack and seems louder than my 30 cal Leshiy 2 with the short 250mm barrel.
I haven't been this pleasantly surprised with an airgun since Tim insisted that purchase his last IZH46.
I really like that sling set-up, any details on where to source the parts? How is it attached at the butt stock?
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The red dot is a 3 moa Vortex Venom, YMD-3103. I have one on my Prod bullpup and hotrod 2289. Shim the rear between the mount and optics with some aluminum can stock to drop the point of impact. A spring loaded dovetail to Pickitanny adapter keeps it low profile.
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Being picky about hardware, a Troy Picatinny QD sling mount/swivel. The sling is a basic Magpul RLS. Both were purchased on sale from Midway, slings were only $7 at the time so I stocked up. Amazon usually has both items however I prefer to buy from Larry Potterfield, he picks up the phone if you ask for him. The cool thing about the sling is the slider allows for easy adjustment if you want go Rhodesian.
The rear is held in place by a loop of 1.8mm braided nylon cord. I'm pretty sure the 1.8 mm cord is stronger the shoe laces of 50 years ago. This works well with the cheek riser in Position Three. Position Four has room for 550 cord. I have some 1 x 10 mm nylon webbing that may replace the 1.8mm cord or perhaps a little Dremel work on the lower portion of the slot and a fitted Kydex washer to allow for 550 cord in Position Three.
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Oops, no way to edit the post above, shimmig the rear of the sight of the lowers the dot and raises the point of impact. Very busy weekend, got my drooper confused while rushing a post. ;-)
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took the barrel and shroud off, the barrel is actually 12mm , the knub at the rear is 10mm. Theres an oring inisde the barreel to seal the probe.. The entire shroud and barrel assembly come off with 4 screws. Transfer port is pretty big didnt measure it ,,, My windage was off to the left a bit ,, crosman barrels will not be drop in, theyd need a sleeve at the rear, and be remachined,
Mine shoots about 1½" to the left also with the iron sights. It would have been nice to have a windage adjustment!
I have the Jet 1 in .22 and th2 in .177 and I have the same trouble with the iron (plastic!) sights. I had to put a Center Point red dot on to get sighted. I'm testing pellets now. Both barrels were filthy.
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Hi Everyone and thanks for all the great info on the Jet!
I had a couple of questions I was hoping someone could answer.
1- I just purchased a Jet1 new from a well known store. I was a bit surprised that the air cylinder was a little less than half full when I took it out of the box. Does Hatsan ship with some air in the cylinder or did I get sold a used gun?
2- Sorry if this is a dumb question but I am still new to PCP. A have a AirForce Condor and I use their AirForce Scuba Tank Adapter K-valve, Steel Hose. Can I use this to fill the Hatsan? I thought I could but I cant slip the QD over the Hatsan nipple. Do I need a filling system in a different size?
Any info would be appreciated.
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Hi Everyone and thanks for all the great info on the Jet!
I had a couple of questions I was hoping someone could answer.
1- I just purchased a Jet1 new from a well known store. I was a bit surprised that the air cylinder was a little less than half full when I took it out of the box. Does Hatsan ship with some air in the cylinder or did I get sold a used gun?
2- Sorry if this is a dumb question but I am still new to PCP. A have a AirForce Condor and I use their AirForce Scuba Tank Adapter K-valve, Steel Hose. Can I use this to fill the Hatsan? I thought I could but I cant slip the QD over the Hatsan nipple. Do I need a filling system in a different size?
Any info would be appreciated.
Hey Harry, I'll do my best to answer your questions, but it is based on my personal experience:
1- I just purchased a Jet1 new from a well known store. I was a bit surprised that the air cylinder was a little less than half full when I took it out of the box. Does Hatsan ship with some air in the cylinder or did I get sold a used gun?
Mine did come with some air in the cylinder, I don't recall how much, but it wasn't completely empty. Another tip, don't screw the cylinder all the way on, if you do it won't hold air. I found this out because after shooting it for the first time I went over it ensuring everything was good and snug. Because I did this prior to refilling, I was able to tighten the cylinder about a ¼ turn. If you do have this issue, fill the cylinder to max pressure and unscrew it from the gun (it is how swapable on the Jet 1) then just screw it back on until it breaks the seal and air flows to the valve. You'll know because it will suddenly become very hard to turn under max pressure. Then just leave it there and you should be good to go.
2- Sorry if this is a dumb question but I am still new to PCP. A have a AirForce Condor and I use their AirForce Scuba Tank Adapter K-valve, Steel Hose. Can I use this to fill the Hatsan? I thought I could but I cant slip the QD over the Hatsan nipple. Do I need a filling system in a different size?
You should have received a Female Quick Release Foster Fitting with the Jet 1. I found the Quick Disconnect Forster fitting I had on my compressor would not fit the Male Foster Fitting on my Jet 1. I ended up replacing it with the one that came with the Jet (it's was much nicer, being the elongated style) and that fixed the problem for me. The new Quick Disconnect has a slightly larger ID to fit the Hatsan Jet Foster Fitting, but I have found it works with all the Foster Fittings on all my other guns as well with no issues. So, I would just replace the Female Quick Disconnect you have on your Charging Station with the one from Hatsan and you should be good to go...
Hope this helps, and enjoy your Jet 1!
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Hi Everyone and thanks for all the great info on the Jet!
I had a couple of questions I was hoping someone could answer.
1- I just purchased a Jet1 new from a well known store. I was a bit surprised that the air cylinder was a little less than half full when I took it out of the box. Does Hatsan ship with some air in the cylinder or did I get sold a used gun?
2- Sorry if this is a dumb question but I am still new to PCP. A have a AirForce Condor and I use their AirForce Scuba Tank Adapter K-valve, Steel Hose. Can I use this to fill the Hatsan? I thought I could but I cant slip the QD over the Hatsan nipple. Do I need a filling system in a different size?
Any info would be appreciated.
1. Both my Jet 1 and Jet 2 came with about 1000 psi. Every PCP I ever bought came with some air. I think this is from the factory or retailer test (my opinion).
2. The female Foster on my Guppy whip would not fit the fill nipples, however, I had an AirVenturi adaptor on hand that fit the male threads of the supplied fill assembly so I installed the Hatsan one on that and am good to go.
By the way, the female fitting supplied on the whip of the GX CS1-I pump fits the Hatsan nipple. I'm using it to fill the Jets, it only takes a few minutes to top them back off after shooting a couple of mags.
Hope this helps.
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Hi Everyone and thanks for all the great info on the Jet!
I had a couple of questions I was hoping someone could answer.
1- I just purchased a Jet1 new from a well known store. I was a bit surprised that the air cylinder was a little less than half full when I took it out of the box. Does Hatsan ship with some air in the cylinder or did I get sold a used gun?
2- Sorry if this is a dumb question but I am still new to PCP. A have a AirForce Condor and I use their AirForce Scuba Tank Adapter K-valve, Steel Hose. Can I use this to fill the Hatsan? I thought I could but I cant slip the QD over the Hatsan nipple. Do I need a filling system in a different size?
Any info would be appreciated.
Hey Harry, I'll do my best to answer your questions, but it is based on my personal experience:
1- I just purchased a Jet1 new from a well known store. I was a bit surprised that the air cylinder was a little less than half full when I took it out of the box. Does Hatsan ship with some air in the cylinder or did I get sold a used gun?
Mine did come with some air in the cylinder, I don't recall how much, but it wasn't completely empty. Another tip, don't screw the cylinder all the way on, if you do it won't hold air. I found this out because after shooting it for the first time I went over it ensuring everything was good and snug. Because I did this prior to refilling, I was able to tighten the cylinder about a ¼ turn. If you do have this issue, fill the cylinder to max pressure and unscrew it from the gun (it is how swapable on the Jet 1) then just screw it back on until it breaks the seal and air flows to the valve. You'll know because it will suddenly become very hard to turn under max pressure. Then just leave it there and you should be good to go.
2- Sorry if this is a dumb question but I am still new to PCP. A have a AirForce Condor and I use their AirForce Scuba Tank Adapter K-valve, Steel Hose. Can I use this to fill the Hatsan? I thought I could but I cant slip the QD over the Hatsan nipple. Do I need a filling system in a different size?
You should have received a Female Quick Release Foster Fitting with the Jet 1. I found the Quick Disconnect Forster fitting I had on my compressor would not fit the Male Foster Fitting on my Jet 1. I ended up replacing it with the one that came with the Jet (it's was much nicer, being the elongated style) and that fixed the problem for me. The new Quick Disconnect has a slightly larger ID to fit the Hatsan Jet Foster Fitting, but I have found it works with all the Foster Fittings on all my other guns as well with no issues. So, I would just replace the Female Quick Disconnect you have on your Charging Station with the one from Hatsan and you should be good to go...
Hope this helps, and enjoy your Jet 1!
I appreciate all the help.
Rat Sniper - I just tried the new quick disconnect that came with the hatsan and it fits my Condor. The problem is that the QD on the AirForce Scuba Tank Adapter K-valve is a female and the Hatsan is a male. Is there a adapter I can use? I am a bit lost.
Any help appreciated!
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Harry, Can you post some pictures of the two adapters you're talking about? Seeing them will help me understand what you have and I 'd be better able to see if I know of a solution.
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Harry, Can you post some pictures of the two adapters you're talking about? Seeing them will help me understand what you have and I 'd be better able to see if I know of a solution.
Here you go. Hopefully this helps!
Thanks again.
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The easy fix is to get one of these to attach to the Hatsan fitting and then just attach it to your fill whip:
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The easy fix is to get one of these to attach to the Hatsan fitting and then just attach it to your fill whip:
So I just need to make sure I understand. If I get that adapter, I would screw in the male part of the Hatsan QD into the female part of the adapter and then use the Adapter nipple to the Airforce QD female?
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So I just need to make sure I understand. If I get that adapter, I would screw in the male part of the Hatsan QD into the female part of the adapter and then use the Adapter nipple to the Airforce QD female?
Exactly!
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So I just need to make sure I understand. If I get that adapter, I would screw in the male part of the Hatsan QD into the female part of the adapter and then use the Adapter nipple to the Airforce QD female?
Exactly!
Great, I appreciate the help. I want the 1/8 BSPP right, not the 1/8 NPT?
Hopefully the adapter fits my airforce QD! I will let you know what happens.
Thanks agan
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So I just need to make sure I understand. If I get that adapter, I would screw in the male part of the Hatsan QD into the female part of the adapter and then use the Adapter nipple to the Airforce QD female?
Exactly!
Great, I appreciate the help. I want the 1/8 BSPP right, not the 1/8 NPT?
Hopefully the adapter fits my airforce QD! I will let you know what happens.
Thanks agan
Thanks again for the help. The adapter worked out great!
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I chronied my jet, oddly it was shooting real slow , mid 500s with premiers.. I added a hammer spring spacer on the guide , now in the 630s.. Still a bit slower than I anticipated from the stock gun.
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I finalized the sling setup this afternoon with a 7/32" hole drilled in the stock and a 550 cord loop.
A layer of aluminum duct tape on the upper and side bearing surfaces inside the rear portion of the sliding stock took out the slop.
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(https://photos.smugmug.com/AG/i-7L5pZtF/0/26ac9b5b/M/IMG_20230117_155535-M.jpg)
I finalized the sling setup this afternoon with a 7/32" hole drilled in the stock and a 550 cord loop.
A layer of aluminum duct tape on the upper and side bearing surfaces inside the rear portion of the sliding stock took out the slop.
That sling set-up looks really good! I used a piece of electrical tape to get rid of the slop in the stock, it did the trick!
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25 caliber for 233
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144846444162?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=d1VlgcuaRxK&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=QhK1jeFHQLe&widget_ver=artemis&media=EMAIL (https://www.ebay.com/itm/144846444162?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=d1VlgcuaRxK&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=QhK1jeFHQLe&widget_ver=artemis&media=EMAIL)
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My Jet2 .177 has a Crosman red dot and homemade LDC attached with DonnyFL 1/2-20 adaptor. Pictures of gun and targets. It was windy today. It favors the lighter CPL 7.9 over the Benji 10.8 or JSB 10.4. I have some lighter Gamo and Polymag's to try.
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Thirsty little guy, I got tired of pumping over 3000 psi. It takes longer to fill the filters on my compressor than the gun. Rather than cycle the compressor for short periods I caved and bought a small bottle. Had a very relaxing afternoon. Factor this into your budget if you're not already equipped.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/AG/i-rPBWjKc/0/95d556ac/XL/20230126_180805-XL.jpg)
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So I just need to make sure I understand. If I get that adapter, I would screw in the male part of the Hatsan QD into the female part of the adapter and then use the Adapter nipple to the Airforce QD female?
Exactly!
Great, I appreciate the help. I want the 1/8 BSPP right, not the 1/8 NPT?
Hopefully the adapter fits my airforce QD! I will let you know what happens.
Thanks agan
Thanks again for the help. The adapter worked out great!
If anyone is interested in a decently priced case, I found this on Amazon. Good reviews. Decent Price. What I like about it is that it is well under 4 inches tall, while most cases of this size are 6"+. I said "decent price" It was still $85.00 but that was cheap compared to other options I found and this is really well made. IP67 Waterproof & Dust Proof: Rubber gasket lines the rim of the case, when latched closed creates a waterproof seal, pressure valve etc.... all while being light weight compared to the others.
Search: EYLAR Large 22 inch Protective, Camera, Tools, Equipment Laptop Hard Case Waterproof w/ 3 Layers Foam (Black)
Enjoy!
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That's a great looking case Harry! Nice job on the cut-outs also, looks like it was made for the Jet! It would have been nice if Hatsan had actually supplied a case, like the early pictures showed, but that's a great alternative!
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Being able to pop it apart and back together quick is a one up on the Notos for sure 8)
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Being able to pop it apart and back together quick is a one up on the Notos for sure 8)
I agree, another plus is the ability to remove the moderator to make it even more sompact for travel. Once Hatsan releases the spare air cylinders, you'll also have the option of a second, hot swappable 40cc air cylinder. Which will be nice since I'm only getting about 12 shots per fill!
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Nice looking set up y'all got there.
Pual.. get you one of those EaZy fill adapters and make that little bottle last even longer. No bleeding the line between fills.
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Nice looking set up y'all got there.
Pual.. get you one of those EaZy fill adapters and make that little bottle last even longer. No bleeding the line between fills.
I need to invest in one, but they are pretty pricey! I have a 90ci Guppy Tank, but for some odd reason, when I try to fill the Jet, the air bleeds ot after I shut the valve and bleed the line. It fills fine from the compressor, so I'm not sure why it does that when filling from the tank.
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Nice looking set up y'all got there.
Pual.. get you one of those EaZy fill adapters and make that little bottle last even longer. No bleeding the line between fills.
I need to invest in one, but they are pretty pricey! I have a 90ci Guppy Tank, but for some odd reason, when I try to fill the Jet, the air bleeds ot after I shut the valve and bleed the line. It fills fine from the compressor, so I'm not sure why it does that when filling from the tank.
Look in the bargain gate.. there was a knock off for about half the price.
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Here it is....
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I wish I could just find one of these in the US! I already have a fitting for the end of the hose, but adding a check valve would do the trick. Seems shipping from the UK has gone nuts lately, everywhere I find these are in the UK and they want $60+ to ship a $20 item!
https://www.bestfittings.co.uk/shop/airgun-charging-equipment/compressors/best-fittings-one-way-valve-quick-coupler-compressor-connector-male-female/ (https://www.bestfittings.co.uk/shop/airgun-charging-equipment/compressors/best-fittings-one-way-valve-quick-coupler-compressor-connector-male-female/)
This would also work for filling my 90ci Guppy tank from a small compressor.
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Yep, just gotta figure how to bleed off the fitting. The EaZy fill spits out the pressure at the fitting only upon release of the lever. very little wasted air.
I use it on my 30min SCBA tank and it's awesome. The only issue is using it on some of my 2k guns that don't have pressure gauges like the FD-PCP and a couple of my HPA lego builds. I suppose I could rig a gauge between the adapter and the gun but I haven't yet.
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I may give one of Ali items a try and see what happens. Does it have a check valve built in? I'm wondering if it could do double duty with filling my tank using a small compressor?
I also found this from Air Tanks Plus:
https://airtanksplus.com/product/quick-connect_in-line_one-way_check-valve_w_bleed_valve/
It would probably be about the same price as the Ali one and may do double duty I need!
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Yes, it has a check in it but... not sure how useful it would be on the compressor. You'll want to bleed the pressure off the compressor when starting and stopping it.
Unless maybe I misunderstand your intentions.
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I also use my 12v/110v compressor right at my shooting bench when filling these small capacity 2 and 3k guns. Pretty dang convenient... just plug in the gun and push play.
Matter of fact... I'm getting the urge.... ;) ;D 8)
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Yes, it has a check in it but... not sure how useful it would be on the compressor. You'll want to bleed the pressure off the compressor when starting and stopping it.
Unless maybe I misunderstand your intentions.
The best fittings adapter is made for filling tanks using smaller compressors. Essentially, it maintains the pressure in the tank during the cool of period while filling. That way you can release pressure at the compressor then restart the compressor with no back pressure and not have to keep opening and closing the valve on the tank.
The one Air Tanks Plus sells has a pressure release valve, so it might work for both purposes. I sent them an e-mail asking if it would also work like the EgGun Easy Fill if attached to my tank. If it does, I'll go for it instead, it will probably cost the same, get here quicker, and if I have an issue, I'll have someone who speaks english I can talk to! ;D
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Ah... I get ya now.... now sure if the EaZy fill adapter will work like that... essentially backwards.
A simple inline check fitting should do that. They have those in Foster. Matter of fact... don't all Foster fill guns use it? Just rig one up inline for your tank.
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Yep, Joe has exactly what you want....
https://airtanksplus.com/product/quick-connect_in-line_one-way_check-valve_w_bleed_valve/
It's designed for exactly what you are talking about. It would also replace the EaZy fill adapter.
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Yep, Joe has exactly what you want....
https://airtanksplus.com/product/quick-connect_in-line_one-way_check-valve_w_bleed_valve/
It's designed for exactly what you are talking about. It would also replace the EaZy fill adapter.
Since it's a one way valve, it should just need to be on the output side regardless if filling a tank or a gun. You would think anyway! I did see PA has the EdGun Easy Fill for pre-order at $119.99, but I would have to supply the female foster fitting. But, being a PA pre-order, no telling if I'd ever see it! I'm going to see what Air Tanks Plus has to say and then go from there... His says it's desinged to fill tanks from small compressors, which is one of the reasons I want one. I just wish I could find one of those UK models here, $20 is a lot easier on the budget and will accomplish the same thing as the $65 adapter Air Tanks Plus sells!
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My only question would be... what's the difference between shutting off the tank valve and turning the valve on the bleeder? You'd still be turning a valve on and off.... Right?
No wait... nevermind... you wouldn't need to turn the check off.
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BTW... you need to plan a visit and check out the new diggs.. we got lots of shooting options. I'm retired now and we are always here.. so any time is good.
LOL.... all my compressors work now too. ;)
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My only question would be... what's the difference between shutting off the tank valve and turning the valve on the bleeder? You'd still be turning a valve on and off.... Right?
No wait... nevermind... you wouldn't need to turn the check off.
I would have to bleed off the pressure when filling the tank so the compressor starts with no pressure in the line, but would not have to mess with the valve on the tank until it's full. When filling a gun from a tank, I should only have to open and close the small blled valve on the Air Tanks Plus adapter and it should keep the line pressurized till the next fill. Maybe... The other coast isn't awake yet, so it may be a while till a get a reply!
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BTW... you need to plan a visit and check out the new diggs.. we got lots of shooting options. I'm retired now and we are always here.. so any time is good.
LOL.... all my compressors work now too. ;)
I will be fully retired the end of September this year, I'll have all kinds of free time then so will definately make the trip over!
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My only question would be... what's the difference between shutting off the tank valve and turning the valve on the bleeder? You'd still be turning a valve on and off.... Right?
No wait... nevermind... you wouldn't need to turn the check off.
I would have to bleed off the pressure when filling the tank so the compressor starts with no pressure in the line, but would not have to mess with the valve on the tank until it's full. When filling a gun from a tank, I should only have to open and close the small blled valve on the Air Tanks Plus adapter and it should keep the line pressurized till the next fill. Maybe... The other coast isn't awake yet, so it may be a while till a get a reply!
I would think you could just stop the compressor and bleed it off at the compressor.
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And yes, your gun filling idea should work as well.
So your advantage over the EaZy fill adapter would be your tank filling option.
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I know it should work for filling the compressor, I’m just hoping it will work similar to the EsGun Easy Fill when filling guns from the tank. If not, I may have to give the Ali adapter a try! I need to make all these purchases now, once retired and on a fixed income, all these frills with be coming to an end!
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I have yet to have the need to 'pause' while topping off my tanks with the new YH. I can fill to 4300 from 3k in a short time and temps have yet to go over 125f... and that was mid summer in the ulitity room with no ac.
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I know it should work for filling the compressor, I’m just hoping it will work similar to the EsGun Easy Fill when filling guns from the tank. If not, I may have to give the Ali adapter a try! I need to make all these purchases now, once retired and on a fixed income, all these frills with be coming to an end!
Exactly... I had to face those adjustments. Fortunately my, somewhat, hoarding nature prepared me. I have lots and lots to play with. Buying pellets is my only basic expense now. oh, and beer... ;)
As you know, I never was a high end airgun connoisseur so I don't miss that aspect of the game.
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Yep, the days of buying high end airguns is probably behind me now. I'm glad I got what I got when I got them because there probably won't be any more in the future! If anything really new, innovative and exciting comes along, it better be new, innovative, exciting and CHEAP! LOL!
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The key is to block the Bargain and Classified gates. ;)
For example... I wish you would remove that red {For Sale} from the Recharge.. it's way too eye catching.
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The key is to block the Bargain and Classified gates. ;)
For example... I wish you would remove that red {For Sale} from the Recharge.. it's way too eye catching.
LOL! That may become my dedicated tank filler, it doesn't look like it's going anywhere, so may as well put it to good use!
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Or just save it for backup... remember, you are preparing for retirement. I've experienced the sudden loss of a compressor, it ain't pretty.
Especially with all the newly found shooting time on your hands...
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Hi Again everyone! '
Sorry again if this is a dumb question but I am still pretty new at all this.
So I have a Airarms Condor. I use a Full size Scuba Tank to fill it. The Airforce website says: Maximum Fill Pressure: 3000 psi / 200 bar which I assume is what the full size scuba tank is giving me.
So my questions is, can I use this same set-up to fill my new Hatsan Jet 1? I see on the Hatsan Jet 1: 40cc air cylinder fills to 3625 psi/250 bar
Does this mean I cannot use my scuba tank set up and need to get a Carbon Fiber 4500 psi tank or a compressor?
I did not see this coming and either the tank or the compressor seems like a costly addition.
What are you guys using?
Any help would be appreciated.
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Hi Again everyone! '
Sorry again if this is a dumb question but I am still pretty new at all this.
So I have a Airarms Condor. I use a Full size Scuba Tank to fill it. The Airforce website says: Maximum Fill Pressure: 3000 psi / 200 bar which I assume is what the full size scuba tank is giving me.
So my questions is, can I use this same set-up to fill my new Hatsan Jet 1? I see on the Hatsan Jet 1: 40cc air cylinder fills to 3625 psi/250 bar
Yes, you need a source that goes over 3K psi. I have used a shoebox compressor and CF Guppy tank for seven years. But I recently bought a Chinese
GX PUMP CS1-I PCP Air Compressor to fill the guns directly. I use it on the Air Arms S 500
Does this mean I cannot use my scuba tank set up and need to get a Carbon Fiber 4500 psi tank or a compressor?
I did not see this coming and either the tank or the compressor seems like a costly addition.
What are you guys using?
Any help would be appreciated.
Yes, you need something that will go over 3K psi. I've used a Shoebox compressor to fill a Guppy CF tank for seven years but recently bought a Chinese
GX PUMP CS1-I PCP Air Compressor to fill the Jet1, Jet2 and Umarex NOTOS. It only takes two or three minutes to fill.
BTW, while shooting the Jet2 .177 yesterday afternoon it developed a leak and wouldn't refill. I had shot maybe twenty mags through it. I hadn't found a pellet it liked and the "iron sights" were way off so I had a Crosman red dot on it. I requested an RMA from Pyramyd and already have it reboxed and the shipping label on it.
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You can still fill to what your scuba tanks will top the gun to, say 29000, should get many top offs from that, but your shot count will be less, the gun can be tuned to a lower velocity, and get as many shots on a lower fill pressure, if shot count is an issue. hand pumping to the full pressure is possibly an option also as it is a small reservoir.
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I would fill to the sweet spot that matches up to the number of mags I have... shoot, fill mags and gun... rinse and repeat.
In my case, if hand pumping, filling the mags would give my heart a chance to crawl back into my chest.. :-[
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You can still fill to what your scuba tanks will top the gun to, say 29000, should get many top offs from that, but your shot count will be less, the gun can be tuned to a lower velocity, and get as many shots on a lower fill pressure, if shot count is an issue. hand pumping to the full pressure is possibly an option also as it is a small reservoir.
I agree. I did have the thought that he could air up to the SCUBA tank pressure and then top off with a hand pump. He wouldn't have as much pumping to do.
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BTW, while shooting the Jet2 .177 yesterday afternoon it developed a leak and wouldn't refill. I had shot maybe twenty mags through it. I hadn't found a pellet it liked and the "iron sights" were way off so I had a Crosman red dot on it. I requested an RMA from Pyramyd and already have it reboxed and the shipping label on it.
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mine leaked not long after getting it .. found the leak and replaced the foster nipple., that and the tank connection for quick swapping are prone to leak
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BTW, while shooting the Jet2 .177 yesterday afternoon it developed a leak and wouldn't refill. I had shot maybe twenty mags through it. I hadn't found a pellet it liked and the "iron sights" were way off so I had a Crosman red dot on it. I requested an RMA from Pyramyd and already have it reboxed and the shipping label on it.
mine leaked not long after getting it .. found the leak and replaced the foster nipple., that and the tank connection for quick swapping are prone to leak
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My Jet 1 developed a leak also, turns out it was because I had screwed the cylinder on too tight. I backed it off a bit and the leak stopped. It's not leaked since. Since the dual tank is not hot swappable like the single cylinder, I know that's not the issue you are experiencing, but thought I'd share for the benefit of others.
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You can still fill to what your scuba tanks will top the gun to, say 29000, should get many top offs from that, but your shot count will be less, the gun can be tuned to a lower velocity, and get as many shots on a lower fill pressure, if shot count is an issue. hand pumping to the full pressure is possibly an option also as it is a small reservoir.
I appreciate everyone's help! After much research, I decided to buy a Carbon Fiber tank, it will be here next week. I have other guns I am planning on buying that take more that take over 3000psi, so might as well bite the bullet now!
Thanks again.
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If you know your going into the rabbit hole might as well jump in prepared ;D 8)
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I started with a hand pump, then dry compressor, and finally a 1.6l bottle and Yong Heng compressor. The small bottle and compressor combo has really allowed me to shoot as much as I please.
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I tried to attach pictures of the notos barrel attached to the jet 2. I have on the other forum if you want to see. My groups are so much better!!!! I tried here but no good.Any way I think I’ll buy another notos just for the notos and keep the barrel on the jet 2 and figure out a way to scope it other than red dot it looks cool wish you guys could see.
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You may have to resize the pictures to make them smaller to upload here. Also, the attached .jpeg files are showing as empty when I tried to download them to see them.
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I think this will work.
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Wondering if anyone has looked into adding a reg into the bottom cylinder of the Jet two?
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I think this will work.
Looking good Matt!
Wondering if anyone has looked into adding a reg into the bottom cylinder of the Jet two?
Interesting thought, but wouldn't it need to be fitted to the top cylinder? I believe the bottom cylinder just feeds the top cylinder, which in-turn feeds the valve. If it was in the bottom cylinder then the top cylinder would only fill to the regulated pressure and the top cylinder would act like a 40cc Plenum. It would have to be a pretty small regulator, or it would take up half the cylinder, but it would be interesting to see the results...
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I tried to attach pictures of the notos barrel attached to the jet 2. I have on the other forum if you want to see. My groups are so much better!!!! I tried here but no good.Any way I think I’ll buy another notos just for the notos and keep the barrel on the jet 2 and figure out a way to scope it other than red dot it looks cool wish you guys could see.
This reminds me of my ATP2 (also Hatsan). The crown had a rough irregular polygonal shape when I first got the pisfle (PIStol-riFLE). Recrowning the barrel made a huge difference.
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Interesting thought, but wouldn't it need to be fitted to the top cylinder? I believe the bottom cylinder just feeds the top cylinder, which in-turn feeds the valve. If it was in the bottom cylinder then the top cylinder would only fill to the regulated pressure and the top cylinder would act like a 40cc Plenum. It would have to be a pretty small regulator, or it would take up half the cylinder, but it would be interesting to see the results...
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I was thinking if you had a small reg in the bottom and were filling to 250 bar and used the top as a plenum you could still have the max power of the gun but get maybe two mags with better sd
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My .22 Jey 1 arrived, I aired it up last night and put it in the safe to ensure it holds air. I came with air in it, so I'm thinking it should be fine. I mounted a small red dot on this one, hopefully the weather will cooperate today and I'll see how it shoots.
I'm thinking once the air cylinders are available, I get a dual cylinder and convert the .25 to a Jet 2 and then have a spare cylinder for the .22 Jet 1. I'm hoping the .22 gets a bit better shot count than the .25...
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My .22 Jey 1 arrived, I aired it up last night and put it in the safe to ensure it holds air. I came with air in it, so I'm thinking it should be fine. I mounted a small red dot on this one, hopefully the weather will cooperate today and I'll see how it shoots.
I'm thinking once the air cylinders are available, I get a dual cylinder and convert the .25 to a Jet 2 and then have a spare cylinder for the .22 Jet 1. I'm hoping the .22 gets a bit better shot count than the .25...
This will sound weird, but I get a better shot count and efficiency out of my Bandit when converted from .177 to .22 to .25 cal.
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I had some free time today, so thought I'd give the Jets a little attention... Guess what, the trigger on the Jet is adjustable! Yep, you have to remove the grip to access it, but it's there, a small grub screw right behind the trigger! I gave it a few turns in to take up the slack, and yep, much nicer now!
I also took a couple pics of the trigger assembly. All the improtant parts are steel, so they will be getting polished in the near future. There will also be a couple springs replaced as well! The first stage trigger spring is not bad as all, but the one of the back of the assembly seems pretty heart and wound pretty tight! I'm thinking a lighter spring there will make a huge difference! More to come on that!
I also discovered there are two spacers already behind the hammer spring! Since I wanted to detune the .22 a bit, I pulled one from it and added it to the .25. I've not had a chance to run them over the Chrony yet, but hope to this weekend.
In any event, thought I'd share these little findings with y'all. Also added a pic of both Jets, the .25 has the slig and is zeroed with the iron sights, the .22 is equipped with a small red dot. Both have Sortie Magazines for more shots between reloads! Have fun!
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Thanks for sharing this!
I had some free time today, so thought I'd give the Jets a little attention... Guess what, the trigger on the Jet is adjustable! Yep, you have to remove the grip to access it, but it's there, a small grub screw right behind the trigger! I gave it a few turns in to take up the slack, and yep, much nicer now!
I also took a couple pics of the trigger assembly. All the improtant parts are steel, so they will be getting polished in the near future. There will also be a couple springs replaced as well! The first stage trigger spring is not bad as all, but the one of the back of the assembly seems pretty heart and wound pretty tight! I'm thinking a lighter spring there will make a huge difference! More to come on that!
I also discovered there are two spacers already behind the hammer spring! Since I wanted to detune the .22 a bit, I pulled one from it and added it to the .25. I've not had a chance to run them over the Chrony yet, but hope to this weekend.
In any event, thought I'd share these little findings with y'all. Also added a pic of both Jets, the .25 has the slig and is zeroed with the iron sights, the .22 is equipped with a small red dot. Both have Sortie Magazines for more shots between reloads! Have fun!
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Thanks for the information ! I can ony shoot mine(.22) indoors at 5 or 10 meters, so I will need to de-tune it as much as possible. Have you located a parts list or EVP ? Thanks.
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I requested an EVP from Hatsan USA and they sent it about an hour after the request. ;D
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I need a little help. I just bought my first PCP, a Jet 1 with a hand pump and after filling it to 200bar I cannot get the pump to release from the foster connection. When I bleed the pump it empties all the pressure in the gun too. It will finally release when the pressure in the gun is less than 100bar (http://)
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I need a little help. I just bought my first PCP, a Jet 1 with a hand pump and after filling it to 200bar I cannot get the pump to release from the foster connection. When I bleed the pump it empties all the pressure in the gun too. It will finally release when the pressure in the gun is less than 100bar (http://)
if its dumping the entire gun the problem is the foster, i had to replace mine within a week of owning the gun .. its m10-1.0 thread pretty standard
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I had this issue with mine while trying to fill from my 90ci ait tank. Be sure when you release the pressure using the knob on your hand pump that you do it as quickly as possible! Releasing the air slowly will allow the pressure to bleed from the gun because the valve in the foster fitting isn't closing fast enough. It may take filling the gun and then quickly releasing pressure a couple time to get the valve to seal correctly. After doing that with mine, I've not had any further problems. I used a compressor and filled it to a full 250 BAR, I know that will be tougher doing it multiple times with a hand pump, but hopefully it will work for you.
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It looks like PA has the Jet dual air cylinders in stock (Black anyway) for $119.99, $10 less than on the Hatsan website. The GTA code takes another $12 off that price dropping it to $107.99 before tax and shipping. They also have the single air cylinders for $99.99, but that's $20 more than Hatsan told me they would cost when I e-mailed them a couple months ago, and they are currently for pre-order only. Hatsan has the single listed for $119.99 (not sure why when they told me $79.99) and the dual for $129.99, even though neither is currently available direct.
My plan is to convert the .25 to a dual cylinder and then use the single cylinder as a spare for the .22.
I really don't understand the pricing since the dual cylinder has 2 cylinders and the block and the single is just a cylinder, the $10 difference doesn't really make the single cylinder much of a bargain!
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The Jet dual cylinder accessory arrived today and I installed it on my .25 Jet, converting it from a Jet 1 to a Jet 2. It's a very straight forward, easy transition, and I'm not real sure why they have the warning to not do it if the cylinders are under pressure.
I did remove the single cylinder from the gun since it is hot swappable, and then removed the block which contains the valve, male foster fill and the screw on adapter for the single cylinder. The dual cylinder accessory comes with the block that also contains the valve, so it was as simple as removing the bottom two 3mm screws and then loosening the two 2.mm grub screws that are under them. Then you just slide out the old block and slide in the new one, tighten the grub screws and reinsert and tighted the other 2 screws.
Since the valve will hold pressure when the cylinder if filled when it's ni the gun, I don't know why it wouldn't when it's outside the gun. The old valve/block assemblt could probably be used to fill the spare cylinger when it's not attached to the gun. Here are a couple pictures of both Jets, the .25 as a Jet 2 and the .22 as a Jet 1 with the spare cylinder. Also a picture of the block/valve assembly from the Jet 1 without the cylinder attached.
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Has anyone done any shooting the jet1 just as a pistol? I thought about getting one but if it's too much to shoot 1 or 2 hand I don't want to bother.
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Has anyone done any shooting the jet1 just as a pistol? I thought about getting one but if it's too much to shoot 1 or 2 hand I don't want to bother.
The single cylinder model is not bad one handed, the Jet 2 with the dual cylinders is a bit heavy for one handed shooting. Also, the two picatinny rails on both side will come off with a singlt 3mm screw which makes it much slimmer as a pistol. Without adding a moderator, it's very easy to handle, but not exactly back yard friendly. If th weather holds, I'll try to get some pictures this afternoon.
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Thanks I don't think I would put a mod on it that's a lot of leverage hanging out there.
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Here are some pictures of the Jet 1 with the side picatinny rails removed. You can get an idea of the size with and without a moderator:
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Here are some pictures of the Jet 1 with the side picatinny rails removed. You can get an idea of the size with and without a moderator:
Thank you Paul I really appreciate you taking the time to post that. Kinda reminds me of say desert eagle 50 or a smith and Weston 500 as far as size goes. Make me want one more and I like how that sight looks.
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Here are some pictures of the Jet 1 with the side picatinny rails removed. You can get an idea of the size with and without a moderator:
Thank you Paul I really appreciate you taking the time to post that. Kinda reminds me of say desert eagle 50 or a smith and Weston 500 as far as size goes. Make me want one more and I like how that sight looks.
See why I want to power up a .25 and keep it a pistol :)
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Here are some pictures of the Jet 1 with the side picatinny rails removed. You can get an idea of the size with and without a moderator:
Thank you Paul I really appreciate you taking the time to post that. Kinda reminds me of say desert eagle 50 or a smith and Weston 500 as far as size goes. Make me want one more and I like how that sight looks.
See why I want to power up a .25 and keep it a pistol :)
I probably missed that I started skimming a few pages ago. How ever I think if you wanted a nice truck gun or tractor gun etc and wanted to take down say a hog or such then sure.
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It is very sleek, and I do like it. If I had an unlimited budget I would have all of these little PCP pistols/carbines.
Here are some pictures of the Jet 1 with the side picatinny rails removed. You can get an idea of the size with and without a moderator:
Thank you Paul I really appreciate you taking the time to post that. Kinda reminds me of say desert eagle 50 or a smith and Weston 500 as far as size goes. Make me want one more and I like how that sight looks.
See why I want to power up a .25 and keep it a pistol :)
I probably missed that I started skimming a few pages ago. How ever I think if you wanted a nice truck gun or tractor gun etc and wanted to take down say a hog or such then sure.
Do you really think one of these would take a hog?
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I don’t think they have the power needed to take anything larger than a squirrel! Hogs have pretty thick hides and even thicker skulls!
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I don’t think they have the power needed to take anything larger than a squirrel! Hogs have pretty thick hides and even thicker skulls!
I think they would also be suitable for rabbits/hares, very thin skin and fragile bodies. Squirrels are downright tough critters, but I find they go down pretty hard at 19 FPE. At 12-ish FPE I had a lot more runners and having to dispatch them by hand. With the same 12 FPE gun I put down a hare with no struggle at 35 feet. Personally I would not try a hog with any PCP pistol, except for maybe something like the Evanix Rex "pistol".
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It is very sleek, and I do like it. If I had an unlimited budget I would have all of these little PCP pistols/carbines.
Here are some pictures of the Jet 1 with the side picatinny rails removed. You can get an idea of the size with and without a moderator:
Thank you Paul I really appreciate you taking the time to post that. Kinda reminds me of say desert eagle 50 or a smith and Weston 500 as far as size goes. Make me want one more and I like how that sight looks.
See why I want to power up a .25 and keep it a pistol :)
I probably missed that I started skimming a few pages ago. How ever I think if you wanted a nice truck gun or tractor gun etc and wanted to take down say a hog or such then sure.
Do you really think one of these would take a hog?
Lol... Yes. Do I think YOU can no.
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It is very sleek, and I do like it. If I had an unlimited budget I would have all of these little PCP pistols/carbines.
Here are some pictures of the Jet 1 with the side picatinny rails removed. You can get an idea of the size with and without a moderator:
Thank you Paul I really appreciate you taking the time to post that. Kinda reminds me of say desert eagle 50 or a smith and Weston 500 as far as size goes. Make me want one more and I like how that sight looks.
See why I want to power up a .25 and keep it a pistol :)
I probably missed that I started skimming a few pages ago. How ever I think if you wanted a nice truck gun or tractor gun etc and wanted to take down say a hog or such then sure.
Do you really think one of these would take a hog?
Lol... Yes. Do I think YOU can no.
Maybe as an execution tool at point blank range it would work. I just can't see 16 FPE being enough at any distance
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I was checking this out on youtube to see if the lever action could be switched over to the right side for lefty's but didn't see anything about it, that's kind of a deal breaker for me.
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Maybe as an execution tool at point blank range it would work. I just can't see 16 FPE being enough at any distance
The .25 is making 19 FPE with the Hades. I'm not sure if there is much that can be done to impreove that any, but I did find out the transfer port size is the same on both the .25 and .22. Since there is no choice of caliber when ordering the dual cylinder, I suspect it's probably the same for all caliber, so it may help it increase it some on the .25.
I was checking this out on youtube to see if the lever action could be switched over to the right side for lefty's but didn't see anything about it, that's kind of a deal breaker for me.
Wayne, there is no opening on the right side of the breech, so swapping to a right side lever isn't possible.
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Maybe as an execution tool at point blank range it would work. I just can't see 16 FPE being enough at any distance
The .25 is making 19 FPE with the Hades. I'm not sure if there is much that can be done to impreove that any, but I did find out the transfer port size is the same on both the .25 and .22. Since there is no choice of caliber when ordering the dual cylinder, I suspect it's probably the same for all caliber, so it may help it increase it some on the .25.
I was checking this out on youtube to see if the lever action could be switched over to the right side for lefty's but didn't see anything about it, that's kind of a deal breaker for me.
Wayne, there is no opening on the right side of the breech, so swapping to a right side lever isn't possible.
So you aare saying there is room to make these dump some air on a .25 projectile ???
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James, I would think so, the TP is only 4mm and I suspect it's the same for all calibers, from .177 through .25, so they could possibly be opened up some for both the .22 and .25 for some improvement!
Also, when I had the barrel off I noticed there is no rifling at the breech end of the barrel where the transfer port is located, so it should be fairly easy to polish after drilling the barrel. What I don't know is if there is a polymer opening between the valve and barrel, and if it would need to be opened up as well. I'm also not sure if it's accessible or not. May have to dig back into it...
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Looks good up to there I am imaging the up stream porting to be similar to the PP700sa pistols, and can be worked on.
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Looks good up to there I am imaging the up stream porting to be similar to the PP700sa pistols, and can be worked on.
That would be nice, may be one of the holes where the grub screws secure the block to the breech is align with the transfer port, but, that's only a 2.5mm hex key grub screw! The two screws that hold the front of the trigger guard.pistol grip and the dual picatinny rail are 4mm, I miss identified them in an earlier post as being 3mm. But again, the choke point is going to be the pass through from the valve to the barrel ports.
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It is very sleek, and I do like it. If I had an unlimited budget I would have all of these little PCP pistols/carbines.
Here are some pictures of the Jet 1 with the side picatinny rails removed. You can get an idea of the size with and without a moderator:
Thank you Paul I really appreciate you taking the time to post that. Kinda reminds me of say desert eagle 50 or a smith and Weston 500 as far as size goes. Make me want one more and I like how that sight looks.
See why I want to power up a .25 and keep it a pistol :)
I probably missed that I started skimming a few pages ago. How ever I think if you wanted a nice truck gun or tractor gun etc and wanted to take down say a hog or such then sure.
Do you really think one of these would take a hog?
Lol... Yes. Do I think YOU can no.
Maybe as an execution tool at point blank range it would work. I just can't see 16 FPE being enough at any distance
As far as this goes between you and me I'm done discussing it. I was directly replying to Jamie and that he stated he wants to power one up. So it won't be 16fpe.
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It is very sleek, and I do like it. If I had an unlimited budget I would have all of these little PCP pistols/carbines.
Here are some pictures of the Jet 1 with the side picatinny rails removed. You can get an idea of the size with and without a moderator:
Thank you Paul I really appreciate you taking the time to post that. Kinda reminds me of say desert eagle 50 or a smith and Weston 500 as far as size goes. Make me want one more and I like how that sight looks.
See why I want to power up a .25 and keep it a pistol :)
I probably missed that I started skimming a few pages ago. How ever I think if you wanted a nice truck gun or tractor gun etc and wanted to take down say a hog or such then sure.
Do you really think one of these would take a hog?
Lol... Yes. Do I think YOU can no.
Maybe as an execution tool at point blank range it would work. I just can't see 16 FPE being enough at any distance
As far as this goes between you and me I'm done discussing it. I was directly replying to Jamie and that he stated he wants to power one up. So it won't be 16fpe.
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I've just never seen anyone suggest a .25 cal PCP pistol for hogs.
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A look back...
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It's all about shot placement! ;D
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Yup.... Manny has proven that on many occasions.
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I read through from begining to where I started at about page 10. Well if I am to buy a new pistol it will be a jet 1 in 25. Just have to get the info for Roblox that my daughter spent over 1000 when she figured out how to get around my parental controls.
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I read through from begining to where I started at about page 10. Well if I am to buy a new pistol it will be a jet 1 in 25. Just have to get the info for Roblox that my daughter spent over 1000 when she figured out how to get around my parental controls.
OUCH! Hey, if you didn't authorize the charges, you shouldn't be responsable for the charges! But, that might mean you're daughter might be in more hot water than just with you! :o
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:-X :o
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I read through from begining to where I started at about page 10. Well if I am to buy a new pistol it will be a jet 1 in 25. Just have to get the info for Roblox that my daughter spent over 1000 when she figured out how to get around my parental controls.
OUCH! Hey, if you didn't authorize the charges, you shouldn't be responsable for the charges! But, that might mean you're daughter might be in more hot water than just with you! :o
Not sure what they can do to an 8yo. I have to gather up all the info and email it off. I'll do that after I take them home and doing other paperwork tonight.
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The other course of action would be a class action action law suit for the effects of setting off boom sauce ???
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Lol
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I had purchased a Plano 2 Pistol Case awhile ago when it was on sale, with no real need or purpose for it at the time. Turns out, it makes for a perfectly compact Grab and Go for Two! This an my 90ci Guppy Tank of small Xisico Compressor and I'm set for some plinking or pesting!
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Like they designed it to fit that case.
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Made a phone call to Baker's and order a jet 1 in 25. When I pick it up there may be some accessories purchases. But I think I will order a pistol case today.
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Made a phone call to Baker's and order a jet 1 in 25. When I pick it up there may be some accessories purchases. But I think I will order a pistol case today.
Congrats on the Jet 1 Matt! A nice red dot really finishes it off!
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Made a phone call to Baker's and order a jet 1 in 25. When I pick it up there may be some accessories purchases. But I think I will order a pistol case today.
Congrats on the Jet 1 Matt! A nice red dot really finishes it off!
Thanks Paul! Which sight are you using in the one pics of the jet 1 you shared it looked nice and low? I may squirt over to HF and get a case there it might be thicker than I need but its cheap and local.
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It's a Trijicon, not real sure what model, but here are a couple pictures. It's also tal enough to use with the Sortie 10 shot magazines! I did have to use a couple of the snap-in Picatinny to Dovetail adapters because, even though it looks like a picatinney rail behind the breech opening, it's only dovetail. In front of the Breech is both, but I can tell you the dovetail is a more secure mount. I have knocked a scope loose that was attached with Picatinney Rings!
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Thanks Paul I'll have to suss that one out that dot looks small and crisp.
I procured the case in green from HF. It's thick but that gives me options for altitude storage. In other words the stock will be stoed in the bottom layer.
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Looks like this one uff da may I dont think I will be buying that soon.
https://www.amazon.com/Trijicon-Adjustable-Red-Dot-3100001/dp/B08JJCX7NV/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=trijicon%2Bred%2Bdot&qid=1678739386&refinements=p_89%3ATrijicon&rnid=2528832011&s=sporting-goods&sprefix=trijocon%2Bred%2Csporting%2C103&sr=1-5&th=1 (https://www.amazon.com/Trijicon-Adjustable-Red-Dot-3100001/dp/B08JJCX7NV/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=trijicon%2Bred%2Bdot&qid=1678739386&refinements=p_89%3ATrijicon&rnid=2528832011&s=sporting-goods&sprefix=trijocon%2Bred%2Csporting%2C103&sr=1-5&th=1)
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I don't even own an airgun that cost me that much. :-[
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Same here, that's more than I usually spend on my long range rifles. Guess I'm what they call "a poor"... :-\
The chin make a rip off of that Trijicon, I think they are under $50 but I know nothing else about them because I, personally, don't support chin patent theft.
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I don't even own an airgun that cost me that much. :-[
LOL I have one under my bed I paid 600 for. I do have a issue with a 430 dollar sight on a 230 dollar gun but Im strange.
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LOL! I don't think that's the one I have! I'm betting what I have is a counterfeit from China, because I'm sure I didn't pay that much for it!
Yep, found my order on AliExpress!
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801374540690.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.165.2dea1802bvPg6a&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt&_randl_shipto=US (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801374540690.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.165.2dea1802bvPg6a&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt&_randl_shipto=US)
Still a nice compact red dot for the price! But, this was before AliExpress started demanding I submit pictures of my Driver's License and the front and back of my Credit Card to place an order using PayPal! So, as long as they are pulling that scam, I'm no longer purchasing anything from AliExpress!
Here's another alternative, I forgot I had this one, it's a SwampFox. Also very compact, but has the bigger style reticle...
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For the same reason I won't order from Ali.
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Okay, so I just ordered another one from AliExpress, used PayPal and the transaction went through with no problem! $29.87 shipped! Maybe it was the item I was trying to order before that had the problem. I was trying to order one of the EdGun Eazy Oil knock-offs and it will not complete that transaction! I'm beginning to think it might be the Vendor!
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Good to know that didnt require all the extra info.
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Okay, so I just ordered another one from AliExpress, used PayPal and the transaction went through with no problem! $29.87 shipped! Maybe it was the item I was trying to order before that had the problem. I was trying to order one of the EdGun Eazy Oil knock-offs and it will not complete that transaction! I'm beginning to think it might be the Vendor!
Or maybe a scammer...
I did notice that the red dot you linked clearly said "Made in the USA" on it.... ?
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Okay, so I just ordered another one from AliExpress, used PayPal and the transaction went through with no problem! $29.87 shipped! Maybe it was the item I was trying to order before that had the problem. I was trying to order one of the EdGun Eazy Oil knock-offs and it will not complete that transaction! I'm beginning to think it might be the Vendor!
Or maybe a scammer...
I did notice that the red dot you linked clearly said "Made in the USA" on it.... ?
They will clone everything.
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Okay, so I just ordered another one from AliExpress, used PayPal and the transaction went through with no problem! $29.87 shipped! Maybe it was the item I was trying to order before that had the problem. I was trying to order one of the EdGun Eazy Oil knock-offs and it will not complete that transaction! I'm beginning to think it might be the Vendor!
Or maybe a scammer...
I did notice that the red dot you linked clearly said "Made in the USA" on it.... ?
They will clone everything.
Exactly! I did notice that when I did the order today, the picture no longer shows the Trijicon logo or the Made in USA, so maybe they are cracking down on the cloning! Sadly, it’s probably very similar to the original, but way cheaper!
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I went ahead and ordered one I expect many weeks before I get it.
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The case I bought.
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My next dot sight will be this, https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804828352754.html? (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804828352754.html?)
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My next dot sight will be this, https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804828352754.html? (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804828352754.html?)
Same here, unless, something better comes out by the time I'm ready to buy
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By the time I'm ready to buy something will definitely be out! :-\
Hey Matt, is that the 3800 or 4800 case?
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4800 series I didnt like the sticker.
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That's a nice case, looks to be plenty of room in it!
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It is much nicer than the price you pay.
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That is a really nice case! Hopefully you post a pic of gun/accessory fitment. :D
As far as thermal goes, my brother has a $6k thermal and it's absolutely incredible! I could see deer almost a mile away, watch field mice zipping around, even watched a big fat toad hopping down to his pond. I wouldn't have thought it could pick up cold blooded critters but it did and the detail was amazing! But it also cost more than my truck so that will be left to envy. One of our guests brought his thermal which was a step under my bros (think he said it was $4k) and it was pretty disappointing. The resolution just wasn't there to see the definition that my brothers showed, especially at higher magnification it was block/pixelated. I've been looking at the cheaper thermals out there and thinking about the difference in those two WAY more expensive optics but I don't think they are worth that coin. That's just my experience, these were set up for long range coyote hunting so maybe a cheaper thermal will work fine at shorter air gun ranges.
He also has a night vision set up which is pretty sweet but that thermal was like watching a sci-fi scene. That was last spring and I'm still drooling...
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I got a decent deal on one of the low end ATN LT Thermals, resolution is pretty poor, but it will make a rat glow in the dark, so as long as you're satisfied with putting the crosshairs over center mass of the glowing blob, it will take a rat in complete darkness! It's also nice to help find them when they run off, because even in light cover, they still glow in the dark as long as they are still warm! The LT version don't record, so I can't get footage of those shots!
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My next dot sight will be this, https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804828352754.html? (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804828352754.html?)
Same here, unless, something better comes out by the time I'm ready to buy
Reading through the description it sounds like it can go to the eyepiece of an already attached scope. Is that right?
Edit: Looked again; maybe I’m confusing it with another one.
Nighttime use requires opening the IR Filter in the front. So this one can be used in the daytime?
I found this listing for what appears to be the same device, but for a better price. https://m.aliexpress.us/item/3256805121376124.html (https://m.aliexpress.us/item/3256805121376124.html)
Edit: Just noticed the last picture says “no battery.” 😑
Edit: This one seems to include the battery and looks to be the same as the original, but with a better price.
https://m.aliexpress.us/item/3256804806744253.html (https://m.aliexpress.us/item/3256804806744253.html)
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The case I bought.
Now you need to build a foam cutter to cut the foam for a perfect fit.
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The case I bought.
Now you need to build a foam cutter to cut the foam for a perfect fit.
It's that pluck and pull stuff.
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The jet has landed and it brought a friend with it.
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The jet has landed and it brought a friend with it.
Oh, that's a nice setup! Like they were made for each other. 8)
Must... resist...
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It fits in that case quite nicely!
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Mike at Bakers told me when they tested it with 33gn heavies it was making 19 to 20 fpe. He also fixed and issue with the male foster. He said he started to air it up and at 500psi it popped off. He may get one of his own every one was liking it today.
I did one test shot to see how loud it was which is why I bought the dfl. Some time this weekend I'm going to try to get everything set into place in the case.
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The jet has landed and it brought a friend with it.
Oh, that's a nice setup! Like they were made for each other. 8)
Must... resist...
Don't resist just order one.
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I had an issue with the foster popping off the first time I tried to fill it also. I swapped it for the one that came with the Jet and have not had an issue since.
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I had an issue with the foster popping off the first time I tried to fill it also. I swapped it for the one that came with the Jet and have not had an issue since.
I have a kral that has a different male foster and has its own adapter. I wonder if others are having an issue with it?
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I have a Jet 1 in .25 on the way, took awhile to find a Jet1 in .25 in stock. Now where did all the Notos go ??? :o
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Congrats on the new Jet James! Just an FYI, if you are looking to add a moderator to it, check Buck Rail for an adapter, I believe they have them and they are $10 cheaper than the DonnyFL adapter! I didn’t see them there until after I had already purchased the Donny adapter!
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Congrats on the new Jet James! Just an FYI, if you are looking to add a moderator to it, check Buck Rail for an adapter, I believe they have them and they are $10 cheaper than the DonnyFL adapter! I didn’t see them there until after I had already purchased the Donny adapter!
Good to know :)
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I'm trying to hold strong and save up my pennies for the upcoming Evanix Viper.
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Congrats on the new Jet James! Just an FYI, if you are looking to add a moderator to it, check Buck Rail for an adapter, I believe they have them and they are $10 cheaper than the DonnyFL adapter! I didn’t see them there until after I had already purchased the Donny adapter!
Good to know :)
If you get a Buck Rail adapter, let us know how it is. The DonnyFL adapter was made for the AA S510, so it was machines for the diameter of the S510 shroud. In the Jet 1 it’s really a hair too large and needs to be removed before you remove the air. cylinder from the Jet or it will scratch the air cylinder. This is not really a problem on the Jet 2 because the air cylinders are not hot swapable and actually sit back a tad further than on the Jet 1.
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I'm trying to hold strong and save up my pennies for the upcoming Evanix Viper.
I think my next major pistol purchase will be the Huben GK1!
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I'm trying to hold strong and save up my pennies for the upcoming Evanix Viper.
I think my next major pistol purchase will be the Huben GK1!
I could go either way. A not massive PCP pistol has always been on my want list. Apparently that market only exists in semi auto. The Jet, PP800/Bandit, and Notos/pp750 are usable as pistols, but are better as tiny carbines.
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Congrats on the new Jet James! Just an FYI, if you are looking to add a moderator to it, check Buck Rail for an adapter, I believe they have them and they are $10 cheaper than the DonnyFL adapter! I didn’t see them there until after I had already purchased the Donny adapter!
Mine came with a double ended ½x20 threaded adapter.
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This lill guy was in the smaller box.
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That must be something new, or something Baker's does for their customers. Neighter of mine came with one! Nice touch if it's something Baker's is doing for their customers!
James, who did you order from? It will be interesting to see if yours comes with the adapter or not...
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They did not put it in there as we were talking about an adaptor and I was like what is this. is it for the jet 2 conversion? Nope it threaded into the end of the barrel shroud. So it must be a new thing. Maybe contacting Hatsan could get you one?
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I will be on the lookout for a little box, and hold off on my final Buck Rail order for a bit.
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I will be on the lookout for a little box, and hold off on my final Buck Rail order for a bit.
It's black box or at least mine is black.
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They did not put it in there as we were talking about an adaptor and I was like what is this. is it for the jet 2 conversion? Nope it threaded into the end of the barrel shroud. So it must be a new thing. Maybe contacting Hatsan could get you one?
I might do that, I have 2 of the DonnyFL adapters, so don't really need more, but maybe I could sell the DonnyFL adapters since they are really made more for the AA S510!
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Its worth a shot because it is smaller than the shroud and no issue with it clearing the air tube.
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Its worth a shot because it is smaller than the shroud and no issue with it clearing the air tube.
I sent them a message this morning through their CS Portal, I guess I'll wait and see how they respond! Thanks!
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LOL! I don't think that's the one I have! I'm betting what I have is a counterfeit from China, because I'm sure I didn't pay that much for it!
Yep, found my order on AliExpress!
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801374540690.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.165.2dea1802bvPg6a&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt&_randl_shipto=US (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256801374540690.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.165.2dea1802bvPg6a&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt&_randl_shipto=US)
Still a nice compact red dot for the price! But, this was before AliExpress started demanding I submit pictures of my Driver's License and the front and back of my Credit Card to place an order using PayPal! So, as long as they are pulling that scam, I'm no longer purchasing anything from AliExpress!
Here's another alternative, I forgot I had this one, it's a SwampFox. Also very compact, but has the bigger style reticle...
This looks like the same one but on amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09WJXSK1Y/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3IQFKQDRAVLOO&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09WJXSK1Y/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3IQFKQDRAVLOO&psc=1)
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Has anyone found a standard size foster nipple to replace the oversized one on the gun ? I'd rather do that than use this oversized thing.
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Has anyone found a standard size foster nipple to replace the oversized one on the gun ? I'd rather do that than use this oversized thing.
Replace the male foster is the best course. Mine was replaced at Bakers before I picked it up.
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Do you know what size it is ?? Thanks.
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I don't know what size it is sorry.
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I just got notice Hatsan has Jet refurbs, in .25 and.22, and the same price I got my new one for from Pyramyd Air ???
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I seen that before I bought mine I was like how did I buy mine new through Bakers at the price you are selling referbs.
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Give them time, once they sit on Hatsan's shelves awhile, Field Supply will have the Refurbs on sale for much less! :P
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If I like it enough I might get a second one. My brother thought it was cool last night.
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Give them time, once they sit on Hatsan's shelves awhile, Field Supply will have the Refurbs on sale for much less! :P
Yep, and not everyone is as well informed as our GTA brethren about purchasing options.
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Give them time, once they sit on Hatsan's shelves awhile, Field Supply will have the Refurbs on sale for much less! :P
Yep, and not everyone is as well informed as our GTA brethren about purchasing options.
Yea, what a mob of enablers!!! :o :P ;D
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Guilty as charged... ;D
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Took Jetlee to work along with my nomad 2. I got 20 shots with JSB 25gn. 250 bar to 125 bar. Group isn't that good the distance maybe 15 20 feet and the iron sights I don't like much. Standing 2 hand hold no stock. I had to top out the rear sight to get near the bull.
She has some stink to her as you can see how deep the pellet is burrried I to this pallet at about 25 feet. It dose have some bark to it.
I think it could be backed off some to get more shots. But 20 on a full fill of 250 to 125 bar is quite impressive to me at least.
I am really liking this gun it feels good in the hand and it's fun to shoot could use a mod if you want it back yard friendly.
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Well ….I got a copy from PA in .25 I couldn’t pass up $229 plus 10% off. Also ordered an adapter from our good friend Donny. Should be fun
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The current configuration of my Jet 1 in .22 is with a Centerpoint red dot sight and a 0dB mod attached via DonnyFL adaptor. Shooting is mostly mechanical noise. Without the mod it has quite the bark. With my homemade ldc it's not as rimfire sharp sounding.
I have not been able to do chrony testing due to bad weather and wife's health problems.
Pellet testing I was surprised to find that so far it likes cheap WalMart Crosman Premier pellets better than any more expensive pellets such as JSB, H&N or Air Arms.
She has one squirrel to her credit.
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Well ….I got a copy from PA in .25 I couldn’t pass up $229 plus 10% off. Also ordered an adapter from our good friend Donny. Should be fun
I forgot to mention, mine did come with an adapter for 1/2 20 lbc.
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Well ….I got a copy from PA in .25 I couldn’t pass up $229 plus 10% off. Also ordered an adapter from our good friend Donny. Should be fun
I forgot to mention, mine did come with an adapter for 1/2 20 lbc.
Hmmm maybe mine will come with one but I don’t mind supporting Donny
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Mike, I'm betting it does! I reached out to Hatsan USA Customer Support earlier in the week asking about the adapters. These showed up in the mail today! Gotta love responsive manufacturers!
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Mike, I'm betting it does! I reached out to Hatsan USA Customer Support earlier in the week asking about the adapters. These showed up in the mail today! Gotta love responsive manufacturers!
Hmmm well if that’s the case now we have two :)
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Ioaded some slugs in my.25 during lunch and I was pleasantly surprised 😯 point of impact went up, adjusted the front sight for windage and drilled some nasty soda cans. Another thing I tried was using all the sights at once and that makes the sight picture better.
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How’s the trigger on this little guy? I hope not like the Notos from the factory .
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I haven't shot mine enough to really pay much to what I am feeling its not heavy that I can say. I dont care much for the safety though.
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I haven't shot mine enough to really pay much to what I am feeling its not heavy that I can say. I dont care much for the safety though.
Thanks . If you can’t remember then I’m going to say it’s not heavy enough to remember. The safety does seem strange
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I haven't shot mine enough to really pay much to what I am feeling its not heavy that I can say. I dont care much for the safety though.
Thanks . If you can’t remember then I’m going to say it’s not heavy enough to remember. The safety does seem strange
If you see my target a few posts back that should give you an indication of the force it takes to squeeze it.
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Good nuff:)
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The Jets do have an adjustment screw on the trigger, but you have to remove the grip/guard to access it, unless you drill a hole through the guard. Adjusting it takes up a lot of the travel and it can be set very close to the edge of releasing the hammer. It would definately benefit from lighter springs, but I haven't gotten that far yet. I did polish the contact surfaces on the trigger mechinism and hammer and that helped a little. It still heavier than I'd like, but much smoother.
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My sight came in today so tossed it on and started to pull foam out and set everything into place. I didnt do a good job of placement of the stock but thats ok I layered in some foam to separate everything. I used the same trick to put the DFL a little higher in the case so its not sunk down too far.
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I dont know if anyone else pointed out that there is concordable amount of storage in the pistol grip. Pop off that plate and one who is that kinda thought forward could pack some items in it for say a backpack gun. Pellets maybe the mags or just one some other whatnots a feller or fellet would like to carry. All a guy is trying to say is take a look in there and you be the judge.
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Mike, I'm betting it does! I reached out to Hatsan USA Customer Support earlier in the week asking about the adapters. These showed up in the mail today! Gotta love responsive manufacturers!
I also inquired about the adapter. Hatsan replied "The Jet does not include such an adapter"
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Mike, I'm betting it does! I reached out to Hatsan USA Customer Support earlier in the week asking about the adapters. These showed up in the mail today! Gotta love responsive manufacturers!
I also inquired about the adapter. Hatsan replied "The Jet does not include such an adapter"
I can tell you that person may not know that it dose. Maybe get ahold of the same rep that Paul did?
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Still not sure if I like the Jet :-\ I was hoping I would like the open sights as a pistol, they just do not cut it for me, I may steal the sights off my Vectis and see if I can see what I want to see, ???
I may have some from a ATI Liberty around to try also, otherwise I better scope it as a carbine, like I do to most of my pistols LOL ;D
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Ya I have to agree the sights are lacking in visual and usability for me. I am interested in how this DOT I got works. I was surprised to see it come in a hard plastic case with eggshell foam in it. That will probably get reproposed for other airgun stuffs.
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Did you submit your request through their web based CS Firm? That’s what I did and provided the S/N and purchase date for both my Jets. I submitted the form on Sunday, they responded on Monday and they were in the mail to me on Tuesday and they arrived yesterday. I’d try again, you obviously got someone who is clueless!
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Did you submit your request through their web based CS Firm? That’s what I did and provided the S/N and purchase date for both my Jets. I submitted the form on Sunday, they responded on Monday and they were in the mail to me on Tuesday and they arrived yesterday. I’d try again, you obviously got someone who is clueless!
I sent email to the address that they used to reply to my request for an EVP. I will try the web site contact form. Thanks.
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Still not sure if I like the Jet :-\ I was hoping I would like the open sights as a pistol, they just do not cut it for me, I may steal the sights off my Vectis and see if I can see what I want to see, ???
I may have some from a ATI Liberty around to try also, otherwise I better scope it as a carbine, like I do to most of my pistols LOL ;D
And I found my happy place :) put the rear sights from a ATI Nova Liberty on the front rail, had to wind the windage all the way up, and set it with some Vibra-Tite, but I am dead on for the 5- 7 yards I plan to shoot this . 25 thumper.
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/MGalleryItem.php?id=8825)
It just dawned on me ??? I can use a short riser mount ;)
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It’s a little guy. It just arrived today and it includes an adapter for a mod, I’m glad it came with one because the DFL one the knurled portion is too big to seat. I like it, it’s the same size as my Crosman Siloutte PCP pistol. Took 60 strokes from 0-250 on my Hatsan hand pump. Just put a Hawke 20mm red dot. It’s going to sit overnight to see if it’ll leak.
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Did you submit your request through their web based CS Firm? That’s what I did and provided the S/N and purchase date for both my Jets. I submitted the form on Sunday, they responded on Monday and they were in the mail to me on Tuesday and they arrived yesterday. I’d try again, you obviously got someone who is clueless!
I sent email to the address that they used to reply to my request for an EVP. I will try the web site contact form. Thanks.
I used the web site contact form as you described and this is their answer:"As we mentioned in our previous email, the Jet does not include such an adapter. If you saw it come with an adapter from a third party advertisement, please contact that third party for additional information."
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Did you submit your request through their web based CS Firm? That’s what I did and provided the S/N and purchase date for both my Jets. I submitted the form on Sunday, they responded on Monday and they were in the mail to me on Tuesday and they arrived yesterday. I’d try again, you obviously got someone who is clueless!
I sent email to the address that they used to reply to my request for an EVP. I will try the web site contact form. Thanks.
I used the web site contact form as you described and this is their answer:"As we mentioned in our previous email, the Jet does not include such an adapter. If you saw it come with an adapter from a third party advertisement, please contact that third party for additional information."
???
I doubt PA is including them voluntarily I think they come with them
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I've looked at a lot of ads and saw nothing indicating the inclusion of the adapter. One or two of the ads showed a fitted case included.
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I know Bakers didnt add one Paul got 2 with an email they are jerking your chain. If I didn't post a pic of it I will and you can send that off as proof. They are not providing you with good CS and that is BS.
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I think I posted this before, but just in case, here's a picture of the 2 I received from HatsanUSA, sitting on top of the box they arrived in, with HatsanUSA's return address. Not sure how they'll try to explain that away... When I contacted them, they said they had a few left and would send them out the following day. They may have run out and don't have any on hand at the moment, but if that's the case, why not just say so? Even if they decided to sell them as an accessory, I'm sure they would be much cheaper than the DonnyFL and would fit better!
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What size are they Paul. David
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What size are they Paul. David
I'll have to check, but I'm pretty sure both ends are ½-20UNF because it can be screwed on in either direction. It's the same threads as the DonnyFL AA S510XS adapter, the only diference is the collar is hex on the Hatsan and barrel side is shorter. The DonnyFL has a round knurled collar and both side are an equal length. I can measure the length of each side and the hex size later when I get home.
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They are ½x20 David.
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Wow that was a filthy barrel. It held air over night. Next is just try some pellets.
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I can do that fellows just a double half x20. And reasonable. David
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Okay, the short end is 7mm from the hex collar to the end of the adapter, the long end is 11mm and the hex collar is 14mm.
Why they made one end shorter than the other is beyond me, the DonnyFL is the same length on both ends, and regardless of which end of the Hatsan adapter you screw into the shroud, it will seat flush with the end of the shroud, so if both end were say, 10mm, it would work just fine! Not sure you even need the collar, a 20mm piece with ½-20 UNF Threads on both ends would allow the LDC to tighten right up next to the shrub with no gap, and would shorten the whole gun by ¼" when the LDC is attached!
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Okay, the short end is 7mm from the hex collar to the end of the adapter, the long end is 11mm and the hex collar is 14mm.
Why they made one end shorter than the other is beyond me, the DonnyFL is the same length on both ends, and regardless of which end of the Hatsan adapter you screw into the shroud, it will seat flush with the end of the shroud, so if both end were say, 10mm, it would work just fine! Not sure you even need the collar, a 20mm piece with ½-20 UNF Threads on both ends would allow the LDC to tighten right up next to the shrub with no gap, and would shorten the whole gun by ¼" when the LDC is attached!
Maybe it was made for some other gun/purpose and it just happened to work for this as well. Something from the old parts bin.
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Okay, the short end is 7mm from the hex collar to the end of the adapter, the long end is 11mm and the hex collar is 14mm.
Why they made one end shorter than the other is beyond me, the DonnyFL is the same length on both ends, and regardless of which end of the Hatsan adapter you screw into the shroud, it will seat flush with the end of the shroud, so if both end were say, 10mm, it would work just fine! Not sure you even need the collar, a 20mm piece with ½-20 UNF Threads on both ends would allow the LDC to tighten right up next to the shrub with no gap, and would shorten the whole gun by ¼" when the LDC is attached!
Maybe it was made for some other gun/purpose and it just happened to work for this as well. Something from the old parts bin.
The Donny FL one didn’t work for me the knurled portion is too wide to seat all the way down
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Yea, I found the DonnyFL fits better on the Jet 2 because the air cylinder doesn't stick as far forward as it does on the Jet 1. Also, since the Jet 2 is not hot swappable, the diameter of the collor of the DonnyFL isn't as critical, it interferes with removing the cylinder on the Jet 1 and needs to be removed before unscrewing the air cylinder. The Hatsan adapter has plenty of clearance for the Jet 1.
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Yea, I found the DonnyFL fits better on the Jet 2 because the air cylinder doesn't stick as far forward as it does on the Jet 1. Also, since the Jet 2 is not hot swappable, the diameter of the collor of the DonnyFL isn't as critical, it interferes with removing the cylinder on the Jet 1 and needs to be removed before unscrewing the air cylinder. The Hatsan adapter has plenty of clearance for the Jet 1.
Ahhha that makes sense. I’ll just keep it maybe I’ll get an air arms s510 for it.
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I know Bakers didnt add one Paul got 2 with an email they are jerking your chain. If I didn't post a pic of it I will and you can send that off as proof. They are not providing you with good CS and that is BS.
I do not really need it, but I like to get everything I pay for. I have one made by one of the forum members who sells on Ebay. I'll try again. Thanks
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I sent another email to hatsan.
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Here is the reply:
The factory began adding adapters after the first couple of shipments without telling us, we are awaiting a package with additional adapters for the guns shipped prior to that event. please check back the middle of next month to see if we have them to send out.
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I figured they must have run out. At least who you got this time took the time to check the actually status rather than just make up a lie! :P
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Ha Ha.... sounds like a 2nd Tuesday of next week thing..
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Or another favorite: Free Beer Tomorrow! ;D
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Funny thing, I had the "included" adapter, and have only screwed a Hatsan thread protector on it ??? :-\
Stretched mine out to 40 yards, using the shoulder stock, and was able to nail an aerosol can at 40 yards, with the open sights I modded, on my 2nd try, mud makes for easy hit spotting ;)
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So, the adapter extends the effective range ? Did you test it with and without the thread protector ?
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So, the adapter extends the effective range ? Did you test it with and without the thread protector ?
Can't say I have, I put it on ASAP.
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If I’m trying to post pics do they have to go through some approval? When I hit post I just get a blank box for another post. Sorry for my ignorance, I don’t post on forums much.
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If I’m trying to post pics do they have to go through some approval? When I hit post I just get a blank box for another post. Sorry for my ignorance, I don’t post on forums much.
You need a higher post count to post pics. I think its 20 posts?
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Sorry, might be that the answer is somewhere in this thread already, but how does the Jet compares with the PP700/PP750 platform from Spa then ?
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If you need a thread protector for the Hatsan factory 1/2x20 adapter I got this one from this place and it works good
https://www.infiniteproductsolutions.com/barrel-accessories/1220P-TP-K-BS (https://www.infiniteproductsolutions.com/barrel-accessories/1220P-TP-K-BS)
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Sorry, might be that the answer is somewhere in this thread already, but how does the Jet compares with the PP700/PP750 platform from Spa then ?
750 is regulated, Jet no, the pp700 non regulated and similar performance as the Jet. Notos is probably best of the mix, IMO, and I do not have one :)
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Yep, if I was going to get one it would be the NOTOS in .22.
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I agree the Notos offers a better value if you are wanting a Carbine. If you are wanting a pistol or backpack gun, I feel the Jet is the better option because the stock offers a toolless removal/install and a moderator can be added/removed to make it more compact. But, for shot count and consistency, the Notos is the clear winner if you're wanting a small, light weight carbine.
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SCulbert and his wife were here last weekend and I got to handle a NOTOS. It felt like quality. I wasn't expecting that.
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Actually I was not really aware of the Notos yet, that is one neat looking airgun. Albeit slightly more expensive compared with the PP750 and Jet.
Thanks for your insights guys - appreciated
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Actually I was not really aware of the Notos yet, that is one neat looking airgun. Albeit slightly more expensive compared with the PP750 and Jet.
Thanks for your insights guys - appreciated
To be fair the Notos is just a Pp750 in a new dress.
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SCulbert and his wife were here last weekend and I got to handle a NOTOS. It felt like quality. I wasn't expecting that.
Yeah it’s solid
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I could have missed it but the mag from my hatsan hydra fits a little loose vs the one that came with the jet. Ill test it out when I can. That is 4 extra shots per mag in .25. From my shots at short range I could load 2 large mags per fill that would be ideal to refill before an air dump happens.
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Is the Hydra Magazine the same as the Sortie magazine? I know the Sortie magazine works in my Jets, I grabbed 1 in .22 and 1 in .25. The iron sights are also tall enough to use with the larger magazines.
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I venture to guess yes its a 10 shot mag and the height looks the same in your pic.
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I pulled my barrel and recrowned it this afternoon. WOW! What a difference that made! When checking with gauge pins it had a .006 bur rolled in. I set up my toolpost grinder with a very small dressed stone and reground a 45 on the end of the bore. Groups are much tighter!
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I pulled my barrel and recrowned it this afternoon. WOW! What a difference that made! When checking with gauge pins it had a .006 bur rolled in. I set up my toolpost grinder with a very small dressed stone and reground a 45 on the end of the bore. Groups are much tighter!
I’ll just wait until mine wears in:)
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LOL! Mine's not grouping badly, but I may do te cotton swab test just to see if there are any burrs.
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I keep meaning to push a slug through my barrel to get some measurements, and a look at the rifling, but so far accuracy seems great with my .25 Jet 1 8)
Adding the rear sight from a ATI nova Liberty fixed any errant shots I was having with OE sights, A low riser mount brings the ATI sight up to a useful level.
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Not sure if bakers cleaned my barrel but I sure haven't lol.
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Not sure if bakers cleaned my barrel but I sure haven't lol.
Never did anything but a quick inspection for bad stuff, saw none, started shooting. Not the norm for me, but figured it would not take long to shoot the crud out of a short barrel ;)
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Can't be much in there lol.
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I did clean both mine and there wasn't much crud in them at all. I did shoot several rounds through both before I cleaned them, so that probably blew most of the crud that may have been in there, out! I didn't see any difference in the way they shot before or after the cleaning...
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I agree the Notos offers a better value if you are wanting a Carbine. If you are wanting a pistol or backpack gun, I feel the Jet is the better option because the stock offers a toolless removal/install and a moderator can be added/removed to make it more compact. But, for shot count and consistency, the Notos is the clear winner if you're wanting a small, light weight carbine.
Having both, I agree. I also had a Jet II in .177 but it stopped holding air within the return period so it went back.
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My jet went back I hated the poi shift and the crashing shot string however my Notos is still with me:)
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My jet went back I hated the poi shift and the crashing shot string however my Notos is still with me:)
Bummer it didnt work out but good to know you are not gonna suffer it.
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My thoughts on getting my Jet1 was if I need more shots I can toss my 90CI bottle and back pack setup and run it on a 3000 psi tether, and go to town ;)
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My thoughts are cheap pistol practice that I dont need ear pro for. Sadly this gun holds tighter groups than I can hold with my PB.
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This evening was mid 70's, low humidity and no wind.
This is 2 mags from my Jet 1 .22 at ten yards Crosman Premier pellets.
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Very nice group.
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Very nice group.
Thanks. This is the best I've gotten out of this pistol/carbine. I think it's good for a pistol length barrel at ten yards. I had the shoulder stock on and sat in a lawn chair using a camera tripod for a rest.'I've had fun popping plastic vitamen bottles for offhand plinking. It's furnished with a Centerpoint red dot, DonnyFL adaptor and 0dB thingy.
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Very nice group.
Thanks. This is the best I've gotten out of this pistol/carbine. I think it's good for a pistol length barrel at ten yards. I had the shoulder stock on and sat in a lawn chair using a camera tripod for a rest.'I've had fun popping plastic vitamen bottles for offhand plinking. It's furnished with a Centerpoint red dot, DonnyFL adaptor and 0dB thingy.
0DB thingy I like that :)
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Very nice group.
Thanks. This is the best I've gotten out of this pistol/carbine. I think it's good for a pistol length barrel at ten yards. I had the shoulder stock on and sat in a lawn chair using a camera tripod for a rest.'I've had fun popping plastic vitamen bottles for offhand plinking. It's furnished with a Centerpoint red dot, DonnyFL adaptor and 0dB thingy.
0DB thingy I like that :)
It's quite the thing to make the doggy bark go away.
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I have a 0db on one and a DonnyFL on the other, both do a pretty good job of keeping them backyard friendly!
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Talk me in or out a Hatsan Jet I ?
I'm not really a DIY guy, so I expect an airgun to perform pretty well right out of the box. Disassembling an airgun and re-assemble it again, means for me always I have one bolt left suddenly ;)
The Jet I seems like a fun platform for me. Generally I like carbines.
Still tossing about the caliber as well, probably .177 caliber.
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I have one in .22 and .25, but not .177! I converted the .25 to a Jet 2 by adding the dual cylinder. The Jet 1 is lighter and more compact, but only has 40cc os air capacity, so tow mage (14 shots) is about all you'll get out of it befor it need to be refilled. They do sell cylinders separately, so you could get a spare to bring along and double youe shot count. They aren't really adjustable, especially is you're reluctant to tear into them. They do have washers behind the hammer spring that can be removed to lower the power, but again, it take disassembling the gun. Accuracy is pretty decent out to about 20 yards, but not much beyond. It's my understanding the newer ones are coming with an adapeter for a moderator, which is needed if shooting in a populated area. They can be loud. The stock is easy to remove and reattach with no tools required, si it's easy to convert between a pistol and carbine. I have micro-red dots on mine and they do well with those, but the iron sights are decent also. The Hatsan Sortie magazines will work with the Jets and give a larger capacity nd you can still use the iron sights if you'd like. They are fun little plinkers, just be prepared to refill it often!
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Have Jet 1 in .25, it is a pistol range pistol, great side arm and plinker, and not many shots before refills.
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Thanks guys, your feedback is appreciated and confidence inspiring that I will need one.
I have a high pressure scuba bottle, so I don't mind the filling part to much.
While the .25 is tempting as well, I tend to go for the .22 now as nice cross road between .25 and .177 caliber.
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I have found the .25 packs a pretty good wallop and is actually a bit more accurate than the .22. I really likes the H&N 20 grain FTT Pellets. But, the .22 does a decent job shooting the cheap Crosman Domed pellets, so it a bit of a trade-off...
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Now you make me doubt again ??? ;)
Since I am planning to shoot only sub 20 yards with it anyway. And I am a big .25 fan.
Btw funny enough all my Hatsans (3x) are doing well with H&N pellets. Especially the Baracuda Hunter.
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The FTT's (20.01gr) are the only H&N pellet I tried and also the lightest. I also tried the JSB King's (25.39gr) and Hades (26.54gr) but think they are a bit heavy, so the those Hunters may perform about the same. Since the Jets are not regulated, you have a shot curve and the POI drop is much more pronounced with the heavier pellets. Here is the average FPS/FPE for the pellets I tested:
FTT (20.02gr): 643.4 FPS/18.31 FPE
Kings (25.39gr): 546 FPS/16.81 FPE
Hades: (26.54gr) 573.8 FPE/19.41 FPE
I refilled after each shot string, and found in interesting the heavier Hades were actually traveling faster than the Kings!
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Cheers - very interesting numbers, seems true to the advertised power.
There was mentioning of a spare pressure tube for the Jet. Is the pressure tube easy to detach ?
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Cheers - very interesting numbers, seems true to the advertised power.
There was mentioning of a spare pressure tube for the Jet. Is the pressure tube easy to detach ?
On the Jet 1 it just unscrews from the valve block. The air cylinder has it's own valve so it can be removed and attached while under pressure. The only down side it has to be attached to the airgun to fill it. So if you want a spare you have to fill it while it's attached to the airgun then remove it and attach another one and fill it. The first becomes the spare.
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I like mine just as a pistol I bought it to use just as a pistol and AFAIK only one that can be had in .25. If you have seen I even put mine in a case and stashed the stock in the lower part of the case. I would say max fill is not the best as POI vs POA is low then it climbs then drops back off very steeply. Not an issue for me as I have it for cheap pistol practice vs my PBs.
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I forgot to mention my .25 Jet1 shoots 60 gr slugs with the most FPE, have to single load them, they get just a little over 500 fps and just under in one fun mag. Out of the box performance.
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I like mine just as a pistol I bought it to use just as a pistol and AFAIK only one that can be had in .25. If you have seen I even put mine in a case and stashed the stock in the lower part of the case. I would say max fill is not the best as POI vs POA is low then it climbs then drops back off very steeply. Not an issue for me as I have it for cheap pistol practice vs my PBs.
That's a good idea! Does the Jet have similar ergonomics to any PB's?
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Trolling this thread as $265 for the Notos is my reality check for the Lego projects I'm considering.
For whatever reason I want a Pistol not carbine or Pistol first carbine easy conversion.
Was looking at converting my 2240 to a drop bottle but I keep coming up with a $300 budget for a single shot carbine....
Logic says Urban/Notos/Jet at that point.
I'm also trolling Airgun Archery Fun as they have a PP800r in Chaser Carbine convertible kit for around $220.
I'm okay with hand pumping a 40cc cylinder but I'd like to see a mag sized shot string without having to adjust POI....hence the regulated 800r or Notos/Urban
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I like mine just as a pistol I bought it to use just as a pistol and AFAIK only one that can be had in .25. If you have seen I even put mine in a case and stashed the stock in the lower part of the case. I would say max fill is not the best as POI vs POA is low then it climbs then drops back off very steeply. Not an issue for me as I have it for cheap pistol practice vs my PBs.
That's a good idea! Does the Jet have similar ergonomics to any PB's?
None in particular that I have shot.
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Trolling this thread as $265 for the Notos is my reality check for the Lego projects I'm considering.
For whatever reason I want a Pistol not carbine or Pistol first carbine easy conversion.
Was looking at converting my 2240 to a drop bottle but I keep coming up with a $300 budget for a single shot carbine....
Logic says Urban/Notos/Jet at that point.
I'm also trolling Airgun Archery Fun as they have a PP800r in Chaser Carbine convertible kit for around $220.
I'm okay with hand pumping a 40cc cylinder but I'd like to see a mag sized shot string without having to adjust POI....hence the regulated 800r or Notos/Urban
100% Notos. I’ve had and shot all you’ve mentioned and the Notos is still with me the rest have been sold or returned
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Trolling this thread as $265 for the Notos is my reality check for the Lego projects I'm considering.
For whatever reason I want a Pistol not carbine or Pistol first carbine easy conversion.
Was looking at converting my 2240 to a drop bottle but I keep coming up with a $300 budget for a single shot carbine....
Logic says Urban/Notos/Jet at that point.
I'm also trolling Airgun Archery Fun as they have a PP800r in Chaser Carbine convertible kit for around $220.
I'm okay with hand pumping a 40cc cylinder but I'd like to see a mag sized shot string without having to adjust POI....hence the regulated 800r or Notos/Urban
100% Notos. I’ve had and shot all you’ve mentioned and the Notos is still with me the rest have been sold or returned
That helps sir. Somebody else I respect and trust stomps around the WMA with me with an Airforce Escape UL in .25 cal just bought a Notos and he's very accurate and happy with it.
I'll keep trolling PA, I should have just took the beating from memsahib during the PA birthday sale....lol
Public Land squirrel season starts August 15th here in GA so I've got time for a sale. Sounds like out the box add optic and enjoy. And small enough to hand pump...what's not to like?
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Trolling this thread as $265 for the Notos is my reality check for the Lego projects I'm considering.
For whatever reason I want a Pistol not carbine or Pistol first carbine easy conversion.
Was looking at converting my 2240 to a drop bottle but I keep coming up with a $300 budget for a single shot carbine....
Logic says Urban/Notos/Jet at that point.
I'm also trolling Airgun Archery Fun as they have a PP800r in Chaser Carbine convertible kit for around $220.
I'm okay with hand pumping a 40cc cylinder but I'd like to see a mag sized shot string without having to adjust POI....hence the regulated 800r or Notos/Urban
100% Notos. I’ve had and shot all you’ve mentioned and the Notos is still with me the rest have been sold or returned
That helps sir. Somebody else I respect and trust stomps around the WMA with me with an Airforce Escape UL in .25 cal just bought a Notos and he's very accurate and happy with it.
I'll keep trolling PA, I should have just took the beating from memsahib during the PA birthday sale....lol
Public Land squirrel season starts August 15th here in GA so I've got time for a sale. Sounds like out the box add optic and enjoy. And small enough to hand pump...what's not to like?
The only thing is the trigger is a bit heavy but that’s an easy fix
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I like mine just as a pistol I bought it to use just as a pistol and AFAIK only one that can be had in .25. If you have seen I even put mine in a case and stashed the stock in the lower part of the case. I would say max fill is not the best as POI vs POA is low then it climbs then drops back off very steeply. Not an issue for me as I have it for cheap pistol practice vs my PBs.
That's a good idea! Does the Jet have similar ergonomics to any PB's?
None in particular that I have shot.
Coming over from the PB world I've yet to find a recoilless side-lever rotary mag PB.
Stance, breath control, sight picture yes.
Recoil management will have to be relearned.....October/November I'll have to make that transition unless the freezer is full come PB deer season.
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"The only thing is the trigger is a bit heavy but that’s an easy fix"
Me and my girlfriend Ms. Dremel have gotten pretty good at trigger polish. Won't be a problem although I was looking at the Notos to be the ONE AG I don't disassemble...lol
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"The only thing is the trigger is a bit heavy but that’s an easy fix"
Me and my girlfriend Ms. Dremel have gotten pretty good at trigger polish. Won't be a problem although I was looking at the Notos to be the ONE AG I don't disassemble...lol
Me too but one Allen wrench and 5 minutes and it was good enough
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Lot's of good insights here on the Jet :D cheers !
Have not placed the order yet, I start to wonder if a Jet II might be the better option.
I'll shoot the Jet probably in carabine guise only anyway...
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Rick just did a review on the Jet II.
I think Angie is gonna do one as well.
Rick bought the gun he is reviewing so he's not obligated. ;
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=207999.msg156447750#msg156447750 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=207999.msg156447750#msg156447750)
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Here is the reply:
The factory began adding adapters after the first couple of shipments without telling us, we are awaiting a package with additional adapters for the guns shipped prior to that event. please check back the middle of next month to see if we have them to send out.
They are finally sending me an adapter after two months and seven emails. ;D
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At least you got one but that's a Hassel.
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LOL... Rick mentions that... why have a QD and need an adapter to use it?
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No trouble, just kept forwarding the same email every week adding "are we there yet ?" 8)
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LOL... Rick mentions that... why have a QD and need an adapter to use it?
I am speaking of the moderator adapter. The QD adapter is a bit clumsy, but it was included with the pistol.
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Ah... I got ya.
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I was lucky to have my male foster replaced before I picked it up.
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If wanting one mainly for a carbine wait for the Jet 3 8)
https://youtu.be/V6mbZMpzIUs
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Rick just did a review on the Jet II.
I think Angie is gonna do one as well.
Rick bought the gun he is reviewing so he's not obligated. ;
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=207999.msg156447750#msg156447750 (https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=207999.msg156447750#msg156447750)
Thanks, did not found / seen that one yet !
Rick confirms here, what I have been thinking as well. Just shoot 2 mags and then refill again for the most consistent shots.
If wanting one mainly for a carbine wait for the Jet 3 8)
https://youtu.be/V6mbZMpzIUs (https://youtu.be/V6mbZMpzIUs)
You guys are really enablers ;D but honestly, that one looks like a serious candidate as well. Are there any details about the ETA ? Although I do expect that the Jet III will land just above the price band I want to pay for a platform like this. Let's see.
Also, I have reached out to HUMA-AIR with the question if they are planning for a Hatsan Jet regulator. Fingers crossed. Jet II + reg will be awesome !
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What I don't like about the Jet 3 is the permenent moderator. I like the ability of removing the moderator for more compact storage/transport. Pop off the stock and removed the moderator and it easily slips into a backpack or standard pistol case. A huma regulator would be interesting if it didn't rob you of too much air capacity, they don't have much to begin with!
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What I don't like about the Jet 3 is the permenent moderator. I like the ability of removing the moderator for more compact storage/transport. Pop off the stock and removed the moderator and it easily slips into a backpack or standard pistol case. A huma regulator would be interesting if it didn't rob you of too much air capacity, they don't have much to begin with!
Exactly my thoughts as well !
That's why I would like a Jet II with a regulator over a Jet III. Also with the Jet II to have options to choose your own moderator.
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Am about to pull the trigger on a Jet...
Gosh, that takes time LOL, but so many options, I or II and then the caliber hahaha, .25 seems tempting as well since indeed, I will mostly shoot it on pistol range anyway, but I like the idea of the .177 too since more shots before refill...
It looks like this...
Jet I in .25 for both pistol and carbine guise shooting...
Jet II in .177 for dedicated carbine guise shooting...
Then the final question to you Jet enablers ;)
For mounting a scope, do you need to take the mag height into consideration, ie what scope mount clearance is needed ? Or can I just mount a 2-7x32 Hawke Vantage with low Sportsmatch mounts with no issue ?
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I believe Paul posted some pics of the mag Infront of his red dot. You don't have to worry about mag to scope clearance they are like the size of a quarter.
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You should have no clearance issues at all with the stock magazines. Even using the larger Sortie magazines, the cleared the scope using medium height rings. One suggestion, the rail looks like it's picatinny, but dovetail mounts actually work better.
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I just bought a Jet 1 in .177 and can't find ANY accuracy. Iv'e used H&N field, Meisterkugln, and RWS among about 8 others. Best about 1.5in at 15 yards. I have roughly 100 rounds down the barrel. Crown looks ok. Getting about 24 useful shots on a full tank. Anyone else have acccuracy issues with the .177 version? Sorry if this has been covered in an earlier post.
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I just bought a Jet 1 in .177 and can't find ANY accuracy. Iv'e used H&N field, Meisterkugln, and RWS among about 8 others. Best about 1.5in at 15 yards. I have roughly 100 rounds down the barrel. Crown looks ok. Getting about 24 useful shots on a full tank. Anyone else have acccuracy issues with the .177 version? Sorry if this has been covered in an earlier post.
Check with a chronograph and see what it’s doing
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My understanding is that the HS is inaccessible, so no adjusting anyway No?
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My understanding is that the HS is inaccessible, so no adjusting anyway No?
No adjustment. Mine had a descending shot string which explained my vertical shot pattern mine was a .25. I’m saying had because I returned it because of the descending shot string. I had the single cylinder one , from what I hear the doubles are a bit better
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It would most likely shoot best with .177 16 gr pellets or try slugs, what I am shooting out of my .25 60 gr BBT slugs.
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I’m surprised you’re shooting 60 grain BBT is out of this gun. I don’t know all the specs on the jet but I assumed these smaller guns are better for smaller calibers and light projectiles. Well, you know what they say about making assumptions…
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LOL... Rick mentions that... why have a QD and need an adapter to use it?
I am speaking of the moderator adapter. The QD adapter is a bit clumsy, but it was included with the pistol.
It works. ;)
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Has anyone done any shooting the jet1 just as a pistol? I thought about getting one but if it's too much to shoot 1 or 2 hand I don't want to bother.
I have a Jet2 in .25 caliber and only shoot it as a pistol. I use a two hand hold though as I like to shoot at 6" x 6" square steel targets at 25 yards. The Jet 2 is a joy to shoot as a pistol! It's the lightest of anything out there that I know of and packs enough power for knocking over .22 rimfire NRA steel metallic silhouettes. I've never attached the butt stock.
Charlie in CT
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I purchased my .25 caliber Jet2 back in late January, 2023. After having fired around 500 JSB 25 grain round nose pellets through it by April, 2023, I went to fire a shot and only heard a click. I believe the firing valve failed. I sent it back to Hatsan USA and they repaired it and sent it back to me. Around 600 shots later the same failure occurred. I'm in the process of sending it back to Hatsan USA again for the 2nd in warranty repair. I'm starting to believe the firing valve is under-designed.... I'm VERY good with working on my airguns of the past like my Dennis Quackenbush Bandit pistols. I've replaced seals in those. I'll keep sending it back to Hatsan USA for now because the repairs are under warranty, but I'd really love it if there was a video or written procedure for swapping out this valve so that I could start doing this myself when the warranty expires. Anyone here have this problem and know how to replace the firing valve? I imagine it would be the same procedure with the Jet1 or the Jet2?
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My jet is still trouble free, I have been using it fairly regularly and must be close to 500 slugs and pellets shot to date, I will shoot it more today and see if it breaks ???
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Has anyone done any shooting the jet1 just as a pistol? I thought about getting one but if it's too much to shoot 1 or 2 hand I don't want to bother.
I have a Jet2 in .25 caliber and only shoot it as a pistol. I use a two hand hold though as I like to shoot at 6" x 6" square steel targets at 25 yards. The Jet 2 is a joy to shoot as a pistol! It's the lightest of anything out there that I know of and packs enough power for knocking over .22 rimfire NRA steel metallic silhouettes. I've never attached the butt stock.
Charlie in CT
I have since that post bought one and have been really enjoying shooting it in pistol forum. If you look back far enough you will see where I bought a case at harbor freight for it. It's a bit large but it works just fine to store everything just the way I want it.
I really thought I would try and shoot it for the pistol target match but beer cans have been it's primary target at a few yards. Such a fun super close range plinker.
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There are now regulated Jet 1's and 2's for sale as well and even the Jet 3 (also regulated) has launched too.
After two failures, try to see if Hatsan is open for an exchange, a new Jet with regulator instead of a repair again :D
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I have since that post bought one and have been really enjoying shooting it in pistol forum. If you look back far enough you will see where I bought a case at harbor freight for it. It's a bit large but it works just fine to store everything just the way I want it.
I really thought I would try and shoot it for the pistol target match but beer cans have been it's primary target at a few yards. Such a fun super close range plinker.
It's one of the few high power repeating PCP pistols on the market that really work well in actual pistol form! I love the shot capacity too! I get 30 shots with mine! The loud discharge isn't an issue for me where I live. Very accurate and always does it's part if I do mine. It's just a bummer that the air discharge valve seems to keep breaking in mine. Twice now I've had to send it back to Hatsan USA for repair. It went back today for the second repair...
Charlie in CT
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There are now regulated Jet 1's and 2's for sale as well and even the Jet 3 (also regulated) has launched too.
After two failures, try to see if Hatsan is open for an exchange, a new Jet with regulator instead of a repair again :D
I'm going to try to actually talk to the airgunsmith there. I want to get a feel for the exact failure mode and get his/her feedback.
Charlie in CT
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Only thing I can think of is shooting it below 100 psi may cause a hard hit on the poppet and cause a fracture.
Shot mine today did a mag dump on a woodchuck trapped in a plastic 55 gal garbage barrel :)
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My jet is still trouble free, I have been using it fairly regularly and must be close to 500 slugs and pellets shot to date, I will shoot it more today and see if it breaks ???
I will take no pleasure in having company when it comes to a failed air discharge (firing) valve. lol
In fact, I'd rather this be isolated to just my Jet2 for some reason as I will put pressure on Hatsan USA to replace it with a new one if it fails a third time...
Charlie in CT
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Only thing I can think of is shooting it below 100 psi may cause a hard hit on the poppet and cause a fracture.
Shot mine today did a mag dump on a woodchuck trapped in a plastic 55 gal garbage barrel :)
I have not fired anymore than 30 times off of a 3500 psi charge. It's still well into the green after 30 shots, but I haven't noted the ending pressure exactly.
The Jet has more than enough power for the woodchuck task. :D
Charlie in CT
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Sending 40 gr BBT HP slugs at 550 fps 8) ;D
I am seconds from buying a Notos as I have the bottle adapter etc. at the ready, will be a head to head with my bottled Prod ;D Just watching the Azon day pricing.
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I have since that post bought one and have been really enjoying shooting it in pistol forum. If you look back far enough you will see where I bought a case at harbor freight for it. It's a bit large but it works just fine to store everything just the way I want it.
I really thought I would try and shoot it for the pistol target match but beer cans have been it's primary target at a few yards. Such a fun super close range plinker.
It's one of the few high power repeating PCP pistols on the market that really work well in actual pistol form! I love the shot capacity too! I get 30 shots with mine! The loud discharge isn't an issue for me where I live. Very accurate and always does it's part if I do mine. It's just a bummer that the air discharge valve seems to keep breaking in mine. Twice now I've had to send it back to Hatsan USA for repair. It went back today for the second repair...
Charlie in CT
My .25 after 15 maybe 20 shots I refill. The hammer set up on these is very crude. That is why you have a extreme bell curve.
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I'd like to get the regulated upgrade parts for my Jet 1...
pipe dream ;)
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I suspect you can probably order a toob with reg and valve because Hatsan made it that way from the start.
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Well since I got a
Notos my Jet 1 has sat idle, but my need to use a .25 hand hammer has not occurred either ;)
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I suspect you can probably order a toob with reg and valve because Hatsan made it that way from the start.
I'm on my third firing valve pin, second replacement after the original failed. I guess I'll see how this one goes. If it fails again, I may follow your advise and order an entirely new air tube assembly. What I'd love to know, however, is if what I'm experiencing is being experienced by anyone else? I shoot this pistol A LOT and am experience firing valve pin failure after ~500 shots. It doesn't sound like it is a common issue which implies that the issue I'm having seems to be connected to my gun only. I'd really love a step by step procedure that shows me how to replace the firing valve myself though as it's a PITA to have to send it back to HatsanUSA every time this happens. I don't mind doing that right now as the pistol is still under warranty, but I don't want to have to keep doing this after the warranty expires, as that'll start to get expensive. If I didn't LOVE this pistol, I'd just walk away, but it's the best PCP pistol I've ever had for offhand shooting as it's so light, fits my hand well, and gives me 30 useable shots with no noticeable point of impact shift out to 25 yards when talking 6" by 6" square steel targets. It hits HARD. :)
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I suspect you can probably order a toob with reg and valve because Hatsan made it that way from the start.
I'm on my third firing valve pin, second replacement after the original failed. I guess I'll see how this one goes. If it fails again, I may follow your advise and order an entirely new air tube assembly. What I'd love to know, however, is if what I'm experiencing is being experienced by anyone else?
I had the same problem with mine after many many hundreds of rounds if not thousands. I’m fortunate enough to own a machine shop so I just built a replacement in a couple hours. I posted it on the FB page.
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A lot of us do not use FB. What did you make the popit out of?
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If you make a new stem, it's best to make it the exact diameter of the hole it fits in. When the hammer strikes the stem the stem will take the path of least resistance before it moves forward. If there is any free play around the stem it will be knocked sideways with force. This also robs considerable hammer energy before the poppet moves forward. Just a heads up.
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@Insanity I machined the replacement out of 4140. So far it’s holding up great.
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@Insanity I machined the replacement out of 4140. So far it’s holding up great.
Thanks and FYI the @ dose not send an alert like some forums do.
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I see that now. Habit I guess.
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Well the tinker bug hit my Jet 1 .25 is now a bottle baby ;D 1800 psi 25.4 gr AA 500 fps. I did move the reflex sight to the back rail as I was getting POI shift, all better now.
Will have to test more ammo choices again lol, nice having a long regulated shot string and a Vectis mag.
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-021223163905.jpeg)
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Well the tinker bug hit my Jet 1 .25 is now a bottle baby ;D 1800 psi 25.4 gr AA 500 fps. I did move the reflex sight to the back rail as I was getting POI shift, all better now.
Will have to test more ammo choices again lol, nice having a long regulated shot string and a Vectis mag.
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-021223163905.jpeg)
Looks great to me! I was loving mine at 800 psi until the stem broke. I've hopefully got all the parts and tools enroute to get it shooting again.
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I would like to get a bottle clamp from the tube to the bottle to give a more ridged setup, time being I have a chunk of stiff black packing foam wedged between the bottle and tube, helps some.
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I would like to get a bottle clamp from the tube to the bottle to give a more ridged setup, time being I have a chunk of stiff black packing foam wedged between the bottle and tube, helps some.
I'm sure one of our 3D printer guys could hook you up. You'd need to take measurements and draw something up.
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I used a m10x1 male to 1/8 female npt adapter then a double male npt to my ASA. I'm not sure if it's the ASA or what but my bottle slants up towards the tube. It's really rigid though. I was going to use a band or strap, but I really don't think it needs one.
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I ordered a couple of barrels to turn down .22 and .25, I'm thinking of making 12" barrels for my Jet and make it more of a carbine. I don't use it in pistol form.
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I ordered a couple of barrels to turn down .22 and .25, I'm thinking of making 12" barrels for my Jet and make it more of a carbine. I don't use it in pistol form.
That will be interesting to see. Fowler Airguns on YouTube put a long barrel on his Jet 2 and he seems to like it. Mine is mainly going to be a close range barn gun so the compact size is what I want.
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Ended up scoping the Jet1 .25 , so far so goodish :D
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-031223170957.jpeg)
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Ended up scoping the Jet1 .25 , so far so goodish :D
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-031223170957.jpeg)
The Hatsan Jet with a bottle is very tempting to me.
What parts did you use to add the air bottle?
Can you show more photos of the drop block/air tank?
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Ended up scoping the Jet1 .25 , so far so goodish :D
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-031223170957.jpeg)
LOL... looks like something the Swiss Army Knife folks made. Where's the can opener? ;)
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Here is the other side, it shows the fittings,,,,, here are some links, I had to add a female foster to the bottle valve. Just a quick cople to make the mod reversable in minutes.
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-031223171144.jpeg)
www.amazon.com/Manloney-LLC-Universal-Paintball-Quick-Disconnect/dp/B0912BVRHT/ref=sr_1_10?crid=RA4A8CRD6ZPF&keywords=female+male+foster+fitting+hpa&qid=1701782140&sprefix=female+male+foster+fitting+hp%2Caps%2C250&sr=8-10
www.amazon.com/Heyxire-Paintball-Adapter-Compressed-Station/dp/B09PR7VR32/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?
www.amazon.com/Alien-Play-Paintball-Compressed-Regulators/dp/B0951WKTJZ/ref=sr_1_54_sspa?
www.amazon.com/TUXING-Paintball-Regulator-Industrial-M18/dp/B0C4XF5M35/ref=sr_1_1?
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Ended up scoping the Jet1 .25 , so far so goodish :D
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-031223170957.jpeg)
LOL... looks like something the Swiss Army Knife folks made. Where's the can opener? ;)
LOL I knew I was missing something, it needs a knife !
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Ended up scoping the Jet1 .25 , so far so goodish :D
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-031223170957.jpeg)
LOL... looks like something the Swiss Army Knife folks made. Where's the can opener? ;)
LOL I knew I was missing something, it needs a knife !
That is one scary looking air gun! You won't need to shoot any pest with that one, one look at it and they'll have a heart attack! You do need to add a 12" long Moderator to it so it will be sneaky quiet and extend the barrel to at least the end of the scope! :P
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Ended up scoping the Jet1 .25 , so far so goodish :D
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-031223170957.jpeg)
LOL... looks like something the Swiss Army Knife folks made. Where's the can opener? ;)
LOL I knew I was missing something, it needs a knife !
That is one scary looking air gun! You won't need to shoot any pest with that one, one look at it and they'll have a heart attack! You do need to add a 12" long Moderator to it so it will be sneaky quiet and extend the barrel to at least the end of the scope! :P
I am having issues with any LDC I put on it puts POI out of any optics adjustable range, I think it is the interface with the 1/2 20 adapter and the plastic shroud.
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The diameter of the barrel is smaller than the ID of the shroud. So the axis of the 1/2-20 adapter is above the axis of the barrel. They reduced the barrel diameter because the shroud would not clear the air cylinder, if the barrel OD was the same as the shroud ID.
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The front of the barrel could be shimmed, maybe buy using a piece of heat shrink tubing, 3/8-1/2" long.
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I will look into it, noticed the Notos has some shroud flex also but no signs of lack of accuracy. I did get a DRT shot on a squirrel today with the .25 Bottle Jet, H&N Hunters :)
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The trigger pull adjustment screw does two things. The hammer presses down on the sear to disengage, so the sear is still pressing on the hammer through it's travel. Turning in the trigger adjustment screw make for a lighter trigger pull, and the sear pressure on the hammer is lighter after it is released. So the hammer moves a little faster through it's travel.
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OK I did notice the adjustment screw, was hoping it lightened trigger pull, but also a faster hammer, I will try this over the crony today. Thanks for the tips again 8)
The Hatsan air stripper is working well on my setup, no POI issues with it.
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The trigger screw is very tight, you will need a real Allen wench. Also the grip will have to be removed to access the screw. I have mine turned in to where the head of the screw is almost flush with the trigger.
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Thanks , yes I was able to get 1/4 turn then reset the hex wrench from the other side and go further flipping side to side with the short end of a quality hex wrench and did not get tempted to use the ball end after breaking it loose.
Trigger is usable now, no change in velocity , may have lowered the ES some though.
Did some pellet test also 26gr. Poly Mags 489, GTO 16.5gr. 580, FTT 19.96 550, Gamo PBA Raptor 599. ES right at 5 fps with all :o
Shot some slugs 30 gr 450 fps, but did not see consistent accuracy, will make up some BBT in .257 as I find that works in my Bull Boss.
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OK I did notice the adjustment screw, was hoping it lightened trigger pull, but also a faster hammer, I will try this over the crony today. Thanks for the tips again 8)
The Hatsan air stripper is working well on my setup, no POI issues with it.
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-081223131527.jpeg)
What fittings did you use to attach the air tank?
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Simple as swapping out the fill hose on the fill station with a male threaded foster female fitting, the Hatsan male end is oversized I took it out and sanded it to fit a standard foster, one could possibly find a brass foster China style that would be a match. IIR the threads are M10 1
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I am having issues with any LDC I put on it puts POI out of any optics adjustable range, I think it is the interface with the 1/2 20 adapter and the plastic shroud.
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I just got my adapter and Buck-Rail moderator yesterday. Same issue. I found that the air tube extends past the shroud just enough to drag on the knurled wheel. A fat little o-ring was enough clear it. Something more substantial would be better but that's what was handy and at least for now it definitely solved the problem.
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Just bought a Jet2 .177 refurb. for $177and change.
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Just bought a Jet2 .177 refurb. for $177and change.
Where did you buy it for that price?
Any link?
Never mind, I have just seen the sale at Field Supply.
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Even at about $150 for Jet 1 or $170 for Jet 2 I am not buying it.
It has a very bad shot string.
Hatsan did not put much thought into designing this.
I might buy a Hatsan Jet 1 and add a regulated air bottle to it.
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Even at about $150 for Jet 1 or $170 for Jet 2 I am not buying it.
It has a very bad shot string.
Hatsan did not put much thought into designing this.
I might buy a Hatsan Jet 1 and add a regulated air bottle to it.
The Jet 1 is probably the easiest bottle conversion out there. Just be aware of the weak valve stem if you decide to run it at a low regulator pressure.
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So the cocking handle is polymer, they say. Wonder how close it might be to fitting the Notos?
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So the cocking handle is polymer, they say. Wonder how close it might be to fitting the Notos?
Are you saying that the sidelever handle is polymer?
Gamo Arrow cocking handle is polymer too.
Thank you for telling us.
The Hatsan Jet is officially off my list now.
Why do airgun manufacturers use polymer in places subjected to stress ?
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So the cocking handle is polymer, they say. Wonder how close it might be to fitting the Notos?
Are you saying that the sidelever handle is polymer?
Gamo Arrow cocking handle is polymer too.
Thank you for telling us.
The Hatsan Jet is officially off my list now.
Why do airgun manufacturers use polymer in places subjected to stress ?
That's what i've read.
Read it Here https://blog.roninsgrips.com/update-on-the-hatsan-jet-ii-its-pretty-wicked/
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So the cocking handle is polymer, they say. Wonder how close it might be to fitting the Notos?
Are you saying that the sidelever handle is polymer?
Gamo Arrow cocking handle is polymer too.
Thank you for telling us.
The Hatsan Jet is officially off my list now.
Why do airgun manufacturers use polymer in places subjected to stress ?
That's what i've read.
Read it Here https://blog.roninsgrips.com/update-on-the-hatsan-jet-ii-its-pretty-wicked/ (https://blog.roninsgrips.com/update-on-the-hatsan-jet-ii-its-pretty-wicked/)
It's polymer, but fairly beefy and solid. Cocking effort isn't that difficult, so I'm not really worried about it breaking. It's attached to a metal linkage with a roll pin and there's no slop in the connection.
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James has a couple thousand rds through his , perhaps he could attest to the durability or lack there of in the jet sidelever
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A couple of pics
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I have't seen any reports on them failing with normal use. They look beefy enough.
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I have well over 3000 pellets through my Jet, there's no wear on the lever or trigger pivot. In the instruction manuel it says to put a drop of silicone oil on the pivot points. I also put a drop on the top of the polymer bolt, I could see some scuffing on the side.
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In the case of Hatsan Jet, the pivot point (with the metal pin) is the weak point.
Anything subjected to significant stress should be made of metal (aluminum, steel, not the pot metal variety): sidelever handles, bolt handles, triggers, etc.
Parts made of polymer which are not subjected to stress: stocks, barrel bands, LDCs, etc
A few thousand pellets are not proof that it will not fail at 10000+ pellets.
Hatsan has 1 year warranty (at most) on all of their air guns.
The polymer parts will likely take longer than 1 year to fail.
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I think if I were that worried about it being the weak link I would try to locate and order a spare before they no longer exist. A "plastic" spare couldn't be too expensive.
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I think if I were that worried about it being the weak link I would try to locate and order a spare before they no longer exist. A "plastic" spare couldn't be too expensive.
I'm not worried about mine. I have 50+ airguns so I doubt my Jet will ever see anything close to 10,000 rounds.
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Will Sorties mags work in the Jet pistols?
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Will Sorties mags work in the Jet pistols?
Yes
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Will Sorties mags work in the Jet pistols?
Yes
Cool that will get me 14shot. I see mags aren’t cheap though.
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Does the Hatsan Jet come with the silencer adapter included?
Otherwise the adapter is about $40.
For some strange reason i feel attracted to the Hatsan Jet and keep asking questions like those above :)
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Does the Hatsan Jet come with the silencer adapter included?
Otherwise the adapter is about $40.
For some strange reason i feel attracted to the Hatsan Jet and keep asking questions like those above :)
Adapters are included, Donny FL is an option if the OE one has issues
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I got to messing with bottles and regulators and found a 3000 psi one I may try on my .25 Jet 1. I have it regulated right now at 1800 I feel a bit more pressure in the tube will give me a bit of a boost from the 500's I'm getting at 1800.
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Does the Hatsan Jet come with the silencer adapter included?
Otherwise the adapter is about $40.
For some strange reason i feel attracted to the Hatsan Jet and keep asking questions like those above :)
Adapters are included, Donny FL is an option if the OE one has issues
So, there is an adapter in the box, provided by Hatsan?
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The adapter that's included in the box is actually a double male for their supplied female foster fitting. It will work as a silencer adapter but you'll have to drill it out if you have a .25 caliber. It should work fine for .177 or .22.
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Does the Hatsan Jet come with the silencer adapter included?
Otherwise the adapter is about $40.
For some strange reason i feel attracted to the Hatsan Jet and keep asking questions like those above :)
Adapters are included, Donny FL is an option if the OE one has issues
So, there is an adapter in the box, provided by Hatsan?
Yes there is a adapter from the gun to a 1/2x 20 bit for a mod. I think that many posts in the past I shared a pictures of the provided adapter. I did that because when some of us that bought this was in the first couple months did not get that adapter and Hatsan sent out adapters to those that did not get them and requested them. In this instance Hatsan provided excellent customer service.
I get your reluctance to buy a jet 1 or 2 but if you really temper your expectations like I have it will fit into some sort of fun to be had. I bought mine not for shot count or accuracy at distance. I bought mine to proactively work on some fundamentals of pistol shooting up to get this 5 yards. I am not really interested in long range pistol shooting.
I bought mine to practice the fundamentals of shooting a pistol. I understand that it is not the same as my XDS chambered in .45 will beat the eff out of me. I full well knew that in the .25 maybe accurate with 15 20 shots is gonna be meh. But at that range as any PB pistol that 3 inch pattern is all kill shots.
It is cheap and cheaply made but it is light holds well in the hand and for close quarters practice it is hard to beat in my opinion. I get a kick out of tossing a beer can at any distance up to 15 feet and with shaking hands hit it every time.
So I ask you Nap do you want a pistol, carbine or rifle? I ask that because the jet is nothing more than a pistol that comes with a stock.
You know the more you express what you want and the range you have the better we can help when you ask for it.
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The adapter that's included in the box is actually a double male for their supplied female foster fitting. It will work as a silencer adapter but you'll have to drill it out if you have a .25 caliber. It should work fine for .177 or .22.
Thank you for the information.
Where is the female foster fitting you mentioned?
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The adapter that's included in the box is actually a double male for their supplied female foster fitting. It will work as a silencer adapter but you'll have to drill it out if you have a .25 caliber. It should work fine for .177 or .22.
Thank you for the information.
Where is the female foster fitting you mentioned?
It was in the box with my Jet 1 when I opened it. There are lots of complaints from owners who had to swap to the supplied female because a standard foster wouldn't fit the Hatsan male. I guess Hatsan decided to start including the female because of these complaints. I can promise you that the male to male adapter that's in the box will not pass a .25 pellet if you decide to use it as a silencer adapter. I had to drill mine out.
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The adapter that's included in the box is actually a double male for their supplied female foster fitting. It will work as a silencer adapter but you'll have to drill it out if you have a .25 caliber. It should work fine for .177 or .22.
Thank you for the information.
Where is the female foster fitting you mentioned?
It was in the box with my Jet 1 when I opened it. There are lots of complaints from owners who had to swap to the supplied female because a standard foster wouldn't fit the Hatsan male. I guess Hatsan decided to start including the female because of these complaints. I can promise you that the male to male adapter that's in the box will not pass a .25 pellet if you decide to use it as a silencer adapter. I had to drill mine out.
Strange as the ldc 1/2 20 adapter Hatsan sent with my Jet 1 in .25 works just fine. as far as caliber fitment anyway. ???
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My adapter fit just fine. When my jet hit Baker air guns ship they tested it for me and the real issue was the foster it let go off the gun while filling. They replaced it before I even picked it up. Great customer service.
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I have found that if you use the female foster fitting that came with it, you're fine, and other one is either too tight or too loose. You would think the industry could at least agree upon one standard size foster fitting! I added a male adapter to the female end that came from Hatsan, which works fine, but it's now no different than having to have another size fill probe since I can't fill the Jet without it. I probably should just replace the male foster fitting on the Jet nd be done with it!
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I have found that if you use the female foster fitting that came with it, you're fine, and other one is either too tight or too loose. You would think the industry could at least agree upon one standard size foster fitting! I added a male adapter to the female end that came from Hatsan, which works fine, but it's now no different than having to have another size fill probe since I can't fill the Jet without it. I probably should just replace the male foster fitting on the Jet nd be done with it!
Pretty sure that's what I would do. I know this is the Jet thread but if my no tactical inclinations are even over come by the urge, I would probably go with the NOTOS.
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True, the Notos is the better rifle! But, if you want something that is smaller or more easily converted to a pistol, the Jet is a good option.
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True, the Notos is the better rifle! But, if you want something that is smaller or more easily converted to a pistol, the Jet is a good option.
Yep, you're probably right but I have that pretty much covered. I've since added a BR moderator and a compact scope.
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True, the Notos is the better rifle! But, if you want something that is smaller or more easily converted to a pistol, the Jet is a good option.
Yep, you're probably right but I have that pretty much covered. I've since added a BR moderator and a compact scope.
That's a really sweet curve on your pp800. Don't want to steal this Jet thread, but can you link me over to any threads that describe your mods/fill/hammer etc. I'm working on a pp800r and am at 8.3fpe pretty stock, but was considering the 1.5mm valve stem extension and 4.0 or 4.2mm TP both sold by TR Rob
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There is are regulated Jet's (I/II/III) available now as well. How cool is that.
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There was no adapter included with mine.
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True, the Notos is the better rifle! But, if you want something that is smaller or more easily converted to a pistol, the Jet is a good option.
Yep, you're probably right but I have that pretty much covered. I've since added a BR moderator and a compact scope.
That's a really sweet curve on your pp800. Don't want to steal this Jet thread, but can you link me over to any threads that describe your mods/fill/hammer etc. I'm working on a pp800r and am at 8.3fpe pretty stock, but was considering the 1.5mm valve stem extension and 4.0 or 4.2mm TP both sold by TR Rob
Here's where it all began...
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=182687.0
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The adapter that's included in the box is actually a double male for their supplied female foster fitting. It will work as a silencer adapter but you'll have to drill it out if you have a .25 caliber. It should work fine for .177 or .22.
Thank you for the information.
Where is the female foster fitting you mentioned?
It was in the box with my Jet 1 when I opened it. There are lots of complaints from owners who had to swap to the supplied female because a standard foster wouldn't fit the Hatsan male. I guess Hatsan decided to start including the female because of these complaints. I can promise you that the male to male adapter that's in the box will not pass a .25 pellet if you decide to use it as a silencer adapter. I had to drill mine out.
Strange as the ldc 1/2 20 adapter Hatsan sent with my Jet 1 in .25 works just fine. as far as caliber fitment anyway. ???
I tried several different .25 pellets and none of them would pass through mine without hanging up.
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Ok mine made it today! knocking down the resettable squirrel 2' hole iron sights at 16.3 yrds. didn't have a ldc adapter with it. but i just happen to have one handy.
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Ok mine made it today! knocking down the resettable squirrel 2' hole iron sights at 16.3 yrds. didn't have a ldc adapter with it. but i just happen to have one handy.
If you bought a new Hatsan Jet then (in theory) it should come with an LDC adapter.
What caliber is yours?
How is the accuracy?
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I'm beginning to wonder if I got a gun someone returned with some extra stuff in the box?
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Ok mine made it today! knocking down the resettable squirrel 2' hole iron sights at 16.3 yrds. didn't have a ldc adapter with it. but i just happen to have one handy.
If you bought a new Hatsan Jet then (in theory) it should come with an LDC adapter.
What caliber is yours?
How is the accuracy?
.177 so far seems pretty acurate. will see if i have a scope to check accuracy. not to night.
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Put a scope on it and 2”is about as close as I’m able to put shots next together. So what pellet does everyone else use? And nothing good to say about the mags sprung way too tight. 8.2,9.3 RWS 8.4 FX 10.3Hades the new Benjamin 10.5 all shotgun cleaned barrel same story. Can’t believe how well it feels in hand but shoots soooo bad lol.
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Put a scope on it and 2”is about as close as I’m able to put shots next together. So what pellet does everyone else use? And nothing good to say about the mags sprung way too tight. 8.2,9.3 RWS 8.4 FX 10.3Hades the new Benjamin 10.5 all shotgun cleaned barrel same story. Can’t believe how well it feels in hand but shoots soooo bad lol.
My .25 is plenty accurate even at the low power I'm running it. It likes my cast pellets and my Flashpup refuses to shoot them well, so that's a win. As far as feel and size, it's my favorite carbine so far.
I think I remember reading that yours is a .177? I've recently discovered that Gamo Tomahawks are shooting well in a couple of guns that I've had accuracy issues with.
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The .177 barrels are a problem. The pellet lead in mine was ground slightly off center, and extended WAY past the transfer port making the useable length that much shorter. Lastly the star shaped crown was an attempt to choke the barrel, it was way over done and distorts the pellet shape. Hatsan should replace the .177 barrels under warranty if they were a serious company.
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The .177 barrels are a problem. The pellet lead in mine was ground slightly off center, and extended WAY past the transfer port making the useable length that much shorter. Lastly the star shaped crown was an attempt to choke the barrel, it was way over done and distorts the pellet shape. Hatsan should replace the .177 barrels under warranty if they were a serious company.
Awhile back I told myself I would never buy another Hatsan pcp after finding out how pellet picky my Flashpup is because of an oversized bore. Well they lured me back in with the Jet 1 because of the reduced price, ease of bottle conversion, and overall size and weight. Thankfully it seems like I got a good barrel on it.
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The .177 barrels are a problem. The pellet lead in mine was ground slightly off center, and extended WAY past the transfer port making the useable length that much shorter. Lastly the star shaped crown was an attempt to choke the barrel, it was way over done and distorts the pellet shape. Hatsan should replace the .177 barrels under warranty if they were a serious company.
Given the short barrel and low power I was only considering the .177 caliber.
In the 1 year warranty is Hatsan dealing with accuracy issues, or if it shoots pellets it's good enough?
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The .177 barrels are a problem. The pellet lead in mine was ground slightly off center, and extended WAY past the transfer port making the useable length that much shorter. Lastly the star shaped crown was an attempt to choke the barrel, it was way over done and distorts the pellet shape. Hatsan should replace the .177 barrels under warranty if they were a serious company.
Dang I should have asked around about the .177. anyone pulled the barrel on one of these?
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The .177 barrels are a problem. The pellet lead in mine was ground slightly off center, and extended WAY past the transfer port making the useable length that much shorter. Lastly the star shaped crown was an attempt to choke the barrel, it was way over done and distorts the pellet shape. Hatsan should replace the .177 barrels under warranty if they were a serious company.
Dang I should have asked around about the .177. anyone pulled the barrel on one of these?
I have the barrel off mine right now. There's 2 grub screws holding it. One on each side of the receiver.
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The .177 barrels are a problem. The pellet lead in mine was ground slightly off center, and extended WAY past the transfer port making the useable length that much shorter. Lastly the star shaped crown was an attempt to choke the barrel, it was way over done and distorts the pellet shape. Hatsan should replace the .177 barrels under warranty if they were a serious company.
Dang I should have asked around about the .177. anyone pulled the barrel on one of these?
Hummm had them out guess I didn't pull hard enough to get it out.
I have the barrel off mine right now. There's 2 grub screws holding it. One on each side of the receiver.
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I've read a lot of Jet posts on different forums and the only complaints have been about the .177 not being accurate. Posters seem happy with the .22 and .25
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The .177 barrels are a problem. The pellet lead in mine was ground slightly off center, and extended WAY past the transfer port making the useable length that much shorter. Lastly the star shaped crown was an attempt to choke the barrel, it was way over done and distorts the pellet shape. Hatsan should replace the .177 barrels under warranty if they were a serious company.
Dang I should have asked around about the .177. anyone pulled the barrel on one of these?
Hummm had them out guess I didn't pull hard enough to get it out.
I have the barrel off mine right now. There's 2 grub screws holding it. One on each side of the receiver.
Wait a second, it's been a couple of weeks since I took it off. I think there are 2 screws stacked in each hole.
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I looked through the parts I took off and if the screws were double stacked, I've lost 2 of them. I don't remember my barrel being difficult to remove though.
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There's only two screws holding the barrel in. Google (Hatsan airguns exploded views), scroll down the list to the Jet.
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Yup 2 for the barrel and 2 along on top of the barrel. So pulled the barrel and pushed a couple pellets through they both hung up on the crown. Recrowned it will see how it does in the morning,
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What's the barrel diameter on these?
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What's the barrel diameter on these?
The .177 =12mm.
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12 mm for the .25 too.
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I'm considering buying the jet and was wondering what .25 pellets if any don't play well with the mags?
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I'm mainly shooting my cast pellets in my .25, but I did try Hades and Crow Magnums and it shot them both well.
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I'm mainly shooting my cast pellets in my .25, but I did try Hades and Crow Magnums and it shot them both well.
are you using your cast in the mag or single load?
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I'm mainly shooting my cast pellets in my .25, but I did try Hades and Crow Magnums and it shot them both well.
are you using your cast in the mag or single load?
I've shot them both ways with no change in accuracy.
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Didn't do to much better this morning got the spread to about 3/4" group. Pulled the barrel pushed some pellets through still had a tight spot. so cut off a 1/4" recrowned. Shooting much better with chps that's a plus.
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I was just shooting my Jet 1 in .25 and was getting great accuracy with the Benjamin .25 pellets, I shot 100 or so, then got the bright idea to regulate it up to 3000 psi, well first shot blew out the valve poppet >:( Stripped it down to the basics will be going inside when I calm down LOL
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James, Did it blow the poppet through the Delrin seat? Did you happen to crony it on that shot?
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Just bought the jet 1, midways price just seemed to nice to pass up. Grabbed a tin of hatsan pellets as well.
Hope it's a good one out of the box, first hatsan ever...
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James, Did it blow the poppet through the Delrin seat? Did you happen to crony it on that shot?
I more than likely did blow through, I was ailing over the crony, but it did not register and the gun did a total air dump from 3000 psi, well I did shut off the asa valve with enough air to do a couple diagnostic leak test to make sure it was the poppet. Will try and do an autopsy tomorrow.
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Didn't do to much better this morning got the spread to about 3/4" group. Pulled the barrel pushed some pellets through still had a tight spot. so cut off a 1/4" recrowned. Shooting much better with chps that's a plus.
Did you try with moderator removed? I had similar poi issues with 2 of my 3 moderators p
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Didn't do to much better this morning got the spread to about 3/4" group. Pulled the barrel pushed some pellets through still had a tight spot. so cut off a 1/4" recrowned. Shooting much better with chps that's a plus.
Did you try with moderator removed? I had similar poi issues with 2 of my 3 moderators p
Yes. All is good now. The last barrel mods seem to have did the trick.
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Didn't do to much better this morning got the spread to about 3/4" group. Pulled the barrel pushed some pellets through still had a tight spot. so cut off a 1/4" recrowned. Shooting much better with chps that's a plus.
It seems that the Jet .177 stock barrels are not good for accuracy.
I do not have the skills to cut and recrown barrels.
If I buy one and it gives me more than 1 inch groups at 20 yards (pretty low expectations), Hatsan will have their gun back under warranty as many times as it takes.
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Well glad mine worked out, I'm amazed just how accurate it is now shooting RWS wadcutters from the mag.
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My .25 is proving to be accurate beyond my expectations for sure.
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How far can you get into the trigger area? any way to lighten up this trigger?
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How far can you get into the trigger area? any way to lighten up this trigger?
I'm pretty happy with the trigger on mine so I haven't tried to access it. The rest of the gun was an easy tear down though.
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I polished the contact surfaces and added a dab of grease, it helped a lot. You could also swap the spring with a lighter one, or clip a coil on the one in there and that might make it lighter. There is also an adjustment screw behind the trigger that can be adjusted ot shorten the length of pull of the trigger.
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I polished the contact surfaces and added a dab of grease, it helped a lot. You could also swap the spring with a lighter one, or clip a coil on the one in there and that might make it lighter. There is also an adjustment screw behind the trigger that can be adjusted ot shorten the length of pull of the trigger.
Thanks Paul for the pixs and info I'll get right on that.
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my jet arrived yesterday, filled it, took 2 test shots and have left it alone to make sure it holds air. So far it appears to be holding steady.
Weather isn't so great but looking forward to punching some paper with it and dialing it in.
1st hatsan..
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my jet arrived yesterday, filled it, took 2 test shots and have left it alone to make sure it holds air. So far it appears to be holding steady.
Weather isn't so great but looking forward to punching some paper with it and dialing it in.
1st hatsan..
I couldn't wait, went out in the sleet and put 2 clips thru it. Out of the box it was hitting the target without adjusting the sights.
Just flipped them up, pointed and shot. - right in the area I was aiming. Not bad imo for my weak eyes and my poor pistol form.
I wasn't trying to dial it, just wanted to put some lead thru it.
No issues with the air fitting and my setup either.
I am impressed for what it is. Neighbor said it had a crack to it and sounded like a .22
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My j2 hammer spring bout the same OD as some of my old crosman disco/prod hammer springs. I grabbed an old cut down spring installed it dropped my fps 500/485. It started at 401 when first installed. The more rounds down range velocity worked up 500. It seems to like the 7.1g H&N hollow points best at that speed.
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My j2 hammer spring bout the same OD as some of my old crosman disco/prod hammer springs. I grabbed an old cut down spring installed it dropped my fps 500/485. It started at 401 when first installed. The more rounds down range velocity worked up 500. It seems to like the 7.1g H&N hollow points best at that speed.
I was looking at the Jet .177 too.
Do you have any shot string you like?
If you do can you post it here, at least the low/high, number of shots and start/end pressure.
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My j2 hammer spring bout the same OD as some of my old crosman disco/prod hammer springs. I grabbed an old cut down spring installed it dropped my fps 500/485. It started at 401 when first installed. The more rounds down range velocity worked up 500. It seems to like the 7.1g H&N hollow points best at that speed.
I was looking at the Jet .177 too.
Do you have any shot string you like?
If you do can you post it here, at least the low/high, number of shots and start/end pressure.
did these 8 shots
Bullet : 7.1 gr H&N
Shot count: 8
Low: 453
Hi: 500
Avg: 485
STD Dev: 14
Spread: 47
2023-12-31 14:37:44,500,FPS,3.9,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:37:57,500,FPS,3.9,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:08,493,FPS,3.8,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:16,484,FPS,3.7,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:22,488,FPS,3.8,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:31,453,FPS,3.2,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:37,485,FPS,3.7,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:45,474,FPS,3.5,FT Lbs,
all info i have for now.
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My j2 hammer spring bout the same OD as some of my old crosman disco/prod hammer springs. I grabbed an old cut down spring installed it dropped my fps 500/485. It started at 401 when first installed. The more rounds down range velocity worked up 500. It seems to like the 7.1g H&N hollow points best at that speed.
I was looking at the Jet .177 too.
Do you have any shot string you like?
If you do can you post it here, at least the low/high, number of shots and start/end pressure.
did these 8 shots
Bullet : 7.1 gr H&N
Shot count: 8
Low: 453
Hi: 500
Avg: 485
STD Dev: 14
Spread: 47
2023-12-31 14:37:44,500,FPS,3.9,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:37:57,500,FPS,3.9,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:08,493,FPS,3.8,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:16,484,FPS,3.7,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:22,488,FPS,3.8,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:31,453,FPS,3.2,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:37,485,FPS,3.7,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:45,474,FPS,3.5,FT Lbs,
all info i have for now.
Have you adjusted/tuned anything yet?
It cannot be that bad.
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My j2 hammer spring bout the same OD as some of my old crosman disco/prod hammer springs. I grabbed an old cut down spring installed it dropped my fps 500/485. It started at 401 when first installed. The more rounds down range velocity worked up 500. It seems to like the 7.1g H&N hollow points best at that speed.
I was looking at the Jet .177 too.
Do you have any shot string you like?
If you do can you post it here, at least the low/high, number of shots and start/end pressure.
did these 8 shots
Bullet : 7.1 gr H&N
Shot count: 8
Low: 453
Hi: 500
Avg: 485
STD Dev: 14
Spread: 47
2023-12-31 14:37:44,500,FPS,3.9,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:37:57,500,FPS,3.9,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:08,493,FPS,3.8,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:16,484,FPS,3.7,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:22,488,FPS,3.8,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:31,453,FPS,3.2,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:37,485,FPS,3.7,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:45,474,FPS,3.5,FT Lbs,
all info i have for now.
Have you adjusted/tuned anything yet?
It cannot be that bad.
Yes I replaced the oem hammer spring with a cut down spring to drop the fps from 800 to 500 fps. I’m detuning for more shots at lower fps.
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My j2 hammer spring bout the same OD as some of my old crosman disco/prod hammer springs. I grabbed an old cut down spring installed it dropped my fps 500/485. It started at 401 when first installed. The more rounds down range velocity worked up 500. It seems to like the 7.1g H&N hollow points best at that speed.
I was looking at the Jet .177 too.
Do you have any shot string you like?
If you do can you post it here, at least the low/high, number of shots and start/end pressure.
did these 8 shots
Bullet : 7.1 gr H&N
Shot count: 8
Low: 453
Hi: 500
Avg: 485
STD Dev: 14
Spread: 47
2023-12-31 14:37:44,500,FPS,3.9,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:37:57,500,FPS,3.9,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:08,493,FPS,3.8,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:16,484,FPS,3.7,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:22,488,FPS,3.8,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:31,453,FPS,3.2,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:37,485,FPS,3.7,FT Lbs,
2023-12-31 14:38:45,474,FPS,3.5,FT Lbs,
all info i have for now.
Have you adjusted/tuned anything yet?
It cannot be that bad.
Yes I replaced the oem hammer spring with a cut down spring to drop the fps from 800 to 500 fps. I’m detuning for more shots at lower fps.
Even with a weaker hammer spring you get a 40 FPS spread across 8 shots in the 500 FPS range, and with a Jet 2 80 cc air tank?
Let us know how it goes.
Hopefully the shot string will get better.
The shot string stopped me from buying one, until I see someone having a reasonable shot string, that I can reproduce myself with my limited skills and tools.
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ordered a kral np01 .177 barrel fingers crossed that TP lines up in the breech. also have 2 weaker valve springs coming should be here in a couple days.
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ordered a kral np01 .177 barrel fingers crossed that TP lines up in the breech. also have 2 weaker valve springs coming should be here in a couple days.
How do you order Kral barrels?
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ordered a kral np01 .177 barrel fingers crossed that TP lines up in the breech. also have 2 weaker valve springs coming should be here in a couple days.
How do you order Kral barrels?
Ordered mine through https://canadashootingsupply.ca/
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Installed new valve spring also pulled the hammer spring and stretched the hammer spring. Stlll a work in progress.
Note Jet2
Bullet : 7.9 gr crosman
Shot count: 14
Low: 572
Hi: 592
Avg: 583
STD Dev: 6
Spread: 20
2024-01-05 08:01:46,586,FPS,6.0,FT Lbs,
2024-01-05 08:02:27,576,FPS,5.8,FT Lbs,
2024-01-05 08:02:52,573,FPS,5.8,FT Lbs,
2024-01-05 08:03:20,572,FPS,5.7,FT Lbs,
2024-01-05 08:03:41,581,FPS,5.9,FT Lbs,
2024-01-05 08:04:16,585,FPS,6.0,FT Lbs,
2024-01-05 08:04:46,574,FPS,5.8,FT Lbs,
2024-01-05 08:05:27,585,FPS,6.0,FT Lbs,
2024-01-05 08:06:16,588,FPS,6.1,FT Lbs,
2024-01-05 08:06:45,588,FPS,6.1,FT Lbs,
2024-01-05 08:07:15,585,FPS,6.0,FT Lbs,
2024-01-05 08:07:44,581,FPS,5.9,FT Lbs,
2024-01-05 08:08:12,590,FPS,6.1,FT Lbs,
2024-01-05 08:08:37,592,FPS,6.1,FT Lbs,
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Didn't do to much better this morning got the spread to about 3/4" group. Pulled the barrel pushed some pellets through still had a tight spot. so cut off a 1/4" recrowned. Shooting much better with chps that's a plus.
It seems that the Jet .177 stock barrels are not good for accuracy.
I do not have the skills to cut and recrown barrels.
If I buy one and it gives me more than 1 inch groups at 20 yards (pretty low expectations), Hatsan will have their gun back under warranty as many times as it takes.
OK, I did it, I bought a Jet 1 from Midway and I am returning it in the morning.
It's a .177 and it failed on all levels. 4" groups at 10m, shoots 6" low. It must be a bad crown.
I also think the grips are too small, the cocking lever is all plastic and the magazines... UGH! Tail first, first pellet, REALLY?!?
Back to Midway...
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40 yards with my .25 bottled Jet 1 and Air Arms 25.4s. I bought it to be a barn gun, but that's pretty decent for a 4x scope with a 2 moa dot in the center of the reticle.
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Bottling the Jet 1 is the best option, as long as the barrel is good.
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Bottling the Jet 1 is the best option, as long as the barrel is good.
What max reg pressure would you suggest running with .25 bottled? I mainly ring steel but want to also be able to cleanly take small pests out to say 25 yards.
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Bottling the Jet 1 is the best option, as long as the barrel is good.
What max reg pressure would you suggest running with .25 bottled? I mainly ring steel but want to also be able to cleanly take small pests out to say 25 yards.
1800 psi gives me 16 fpe and 800 psi gives me 8 fpe. I'm planning to run mine at 800 psi most of the time because I want it for short range work.
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pix of valve return springs, top hatsan spring and bottom what I replaced it with.
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Snow day happened, so I tore into my Jet 1 .25 and replaced the failed poppet, small metal thing fell out of the gun, was part of the stem that had snapped. I am running a bottle but bypassing the regulator, will see what happens after supper. :)
Jet1 2.0
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-120124181340.jpeg)
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That chair is straight out of A clockwork orange....
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That chair is straight out of A clockwork orange....
Thanks, it came with the house.
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That chair is straight out of A clockwork orange....
Thanks, it came with the house.
It has 2 or 3 too many fingers. ;D
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That chair is straight out of A clockwork orange....
Thanks, it came with the house.
It has 2 or 3 too many fingers. ;D
Maybe in a configuration I'd think to be more interesting.
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That chair is straight out of A clockwork orange....
Thanks, it came with the house.
It has 2 or 3 too many fingers. ;D
Maybe in a configuration I'd think to be more interesting.
Well I can not get rid of the middle one, it really has my back ;) lol
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I think I have a leak in my new bottle setup, uncoupled it and have the gun at 200 bar will see for sure, electronic leak detector showed no gun leaks, will inspect and test the bottle next.
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That chair is straight out of A clockwork orange....
Thanks, it came with the house.
It has 2 or 3 too many fingers. ;D
Maybe in a configuration I'd think to be more interesting.
Well I can not get rid of the middle one, it really has my back ;) lol
Yeah it would be hard for me not to cut all but the middle finger off of it, decorate it for Christmas and set in the front window. ;D
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Will keep the decorating tips in mind ;)
Checked the Jet1 this am still at 200 bar, so it was my improvised bottle setup that had the leak, now to get it sighted back in and new crony numbers while I'm snowed in.
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Will keep the decorating tips in mind ;)
Checked the Jet1 this am still at 200 bar, so it was my improvised bottle setup that had the leak, now to get it sighted back in and new crony numbers while I'm snowed in.
My .25 is making 16 fpe at 1800 psi. It should be pretty impressive with no regulation.
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Will keep the decorating tips in mind ;)
Checked the Jet1 this am still at 200 bar, so it was my improvised bottle setup that had the leak, now to get it sighted back in and new crony numbers while I'm snowed in.
My .25 is making 16 fpe at 1800 psi. It should be pretty impressive with no regulation.
I'm up in the air if I want to go unregged, but it is an easy switch with the Foster quick connectors. I did fire a few shots when I had it at 200 bar and they did seem to be zooming along.
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You guys must be hunters to feel the need for 16 fpe... ;D Whatcha plan on killin' with that thar little gun anyways?
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You guys must be hunters to feel the need for 16 fpe... ;D Whatcha plan on killin' with that thar little gun anyways?
I tried mine at 1800 psi just out of curiosity. I running it at 800 psi for 8 fpe normally. It's my close quarters gun.
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LOL Ed... just mashin' yer taters. ;)
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LOL Ed... just mashin' yer taters. ;)
🤣
My .25 Bandit will hit 30 fpe with the factory spring. I'm keeping this one tame.
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I took a racoon at 25 yards with mine while squirrel hunting with it. in stock configuration. But keeping them tame makes for a good in the barn type pester.
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I took a racoon at 25 yards with mine while squirrel hunting with it. in stock configuration. But keeping them tame makes for a good in the barn type pester.
Tin cans are the only thing I've killed yet, but it knocks them 15 or 20 feet at 8 fpe.
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I'm not a hunter so I tend to detune my guns for accuracy and shot count within my shooting range. I think it's less beating and banging on the gun. I have guns designed to do the bigger jobs when that is the intention.
Anything that I might shoot, including fur, feather or belly crawler wouldn't take more than 10 fpe anyhow.
But I get it. It's almost human nature to seek bigger, stronger and faster.
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ordered a kral np01 .177 barrel fingers crossed that TP lines up in the breech. also have 2 weaker valve springs coming should be here in a couple days.
Got the NP01 barrel tp ports didn't line up so going to have to drill a different spot. cold snap slowing progesss buuuuurrrrrrrr.
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ordered a kral np01 .177 barrel fingers crossed that TP lines up in the breech. also have 2 weaker valve springs coming should be here in a couple days.
Got the NP01 barrel tp ports didn't line up so going to have to drill a different spot. cold snap slowing progesss buuuuurrrrrrrr.
It does not seem like the Jet is built well enough to be worth investing in it.
I would certainly not spend money on a barrel which is 30%-40% the price of a Jet.
I assume that you wanted more power.
For that, there are other options.
The Jet should be treated as a short range (up to 25 yards) plinker, if you get lucky and the barrel has no issues.
If I buy one it will be the Jet 1 in .177 and will add a regulated air bottle to it when I don't shoot it as a pistol.
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What would be the total cost of adding a regulated bottle to the Jet I ?
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I already had the bottle for my Jet 1. I think it was
around $80 on sale when I bought it with the 800 psi regulator. I tried mine with another tank regulated at 1800 psi and it shot right at an inch at 40 yards with AA 25.4s.
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Duplicate post
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ordered a kral np01 .177 barrel fingers crossed that TP lines up in the breech. also have 2 weaker valve springs coming should be here in a couple days.
Got the NP01 barrel tp ports didn't line up so going to have to drill a different spot. cold snap slowing progesss buuuuurrrrrrrr.
It does not seem like the Jet is built well enough to be worth investing in it.
I would certainly not spend money on a barrel which is 30%-40% the price of a Jet.
I assume that you wanted more power.
For that, there are other options.
The Jet should be treated as a short range (up to 25 yards) plinker, if you get lucky and the barrel has no issues.
If I buy one it will be the Jet 1 in .177 and will add a regulated air bottle to it when I don't shoot it as a pistol.
I value accuracy more than power! What good is power if you can’t hit the side of a barn.
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The Jet is a great gun for tinkering, straight out of the box it leaves something to be desired.
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The Jet is a great gun for tinkering, straight out of the box it leaves something to be desired.
I agree. Anyone with a busted one should know that I gladly accept donations. ;)
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The Jet is a great gun for tinkering, straight out of the box it leaves something to be desired.
The Jet at MSRP is too expensive to be just for tinkering.
If you get it on a big sale and have the skills to tinker then maybe.
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There are those of us who put great value on tinkering. I get a ton of enjoyment out of it.
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The Jet at MSRP is too expensive to be just for tinkering.
If you get it on a big sale and have the skills to tinker then maybe.
Obviously you have a 1377 or 1322 budget. Why even give your .02 dollar opinion to Guys that seem to like the Jet?
::)
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The Jet at MSRP is too expensive to be just for tinkering.
If you get it on a big sale and have the skills to tinker then maybe.
Obviously you have a 1377 or 1322 budget. Why even give your .02 dollar opinion to Guys that seem to like the Jet?
::)
I have tens of PCPs, just 5-6 bought last year.
I have plenty of Crosman 13xx/22xx which are a pleasure to tinker with.
I have read a lot about the Jet.
It's just that the Jet is not worth the $250-$300 MSRP.
You may not have read much about the Jet is capable of out of the box.
You may have one, and were lucky enough to get a good one, but then you should play the lottery.
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They are everywhere for $200 or less.
https://www.airgundepot.com/hatsan-jet-1-black.html
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Don't own one. Never will.
Just find it interesting how anally obsessed you are with a Gun you won't buy.
::)
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Lets all play nice before it gets out of hand. ;)
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I didn't do nothing!
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Didn't say you did. Just been around long enough to see what direction these things go.
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The Jet is a great gun for tinkering, straight out of the box it leaves something to be desired.
I chuckled
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I have tens of PCPs, just 5-6 bought last year.
Sell a few of those cheap PCP's and buy the Huben GK1 of you don't like the Jet (That you have never owned).
Problem solved.
See how easy that is compared to being the jackalope in this thread?
::)
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The Jet is a great gun for tinkering, straight out of the box it leaves something to be desired.
I chuckled
Cheap gun I expect cheap gun results.
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I bought mine because I love to tinker and it was under $200 delivered. It's now my favorite little short range carbine just like I hoped it would be.
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Cheap gun I expect cheap gun results.
You know me. There's plenty of cheap Guns I have no interest in what so ever.
But unlike the chimera in this thread? I don't post whiney opinions in those Guns threads!
Here's a quick thought. How about posting something of use to GTA members to help?
NAH! That would require some talent and knowledge and not what YouBoob taught in a day or so.
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I bought mine because I love to tinker and it was under $200 delivered. It's now my favorite little short range carbine just like I hoped it would be.
My latest cheap Gun was a messed up Evanix RainStorm 1
$200 or so is what I paid. Had to find magazines for it and that was a chore!
It's under going a MASSIVE rebuild with chopping the barrel, new stock, and internal work based on a Master Smith's work.
So did I over pay for a not up to par Gun?
NO! I got exactly what I wanted! A cheap tinker Gun that I am having more fun working on then a Mint Evanix will give me.
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I bought mine because I love to tinker and it was under $200 delivered. It's now my favorite little short range carbine just like I hoped it would be.
My latest cheap Gun was a messed up Evanix RainStorm 1
$200 or so is what I paid. Had to find magazines for it and that was a chore!
It's under going a MASSIVE rebuild with chopping the barrel, new stock, and internal work based on a Master Smith's work.
So did I over pay for a not up to par Gun?
NO! I got exactly what I wanted! A cheap tinker Gun that I am having more fun working on then a Mint Evanix will give me.
I don't feel like I over paid either. I had some frustration, but I made a new friend in the community and ended up with a gun I love to shoot. I call that a win.
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I'd expect a "Well your's is an Evanix so that different from a Jet!"
;);D
I'd probably have to explain chopping, rethreading the end, and recrowning the barrel.
Then explaining the work on the valve body and why.
Not to mention fitting it into a stock that will be getting plastic welding done after cutting it down.
I have a thread at AGN about that.
Now that my hand is almost back to normal? I'll be getting back on that project.
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I expect the Evanix has a little less plastic than the Jet. ;D
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Well, it will have an all plastic stock. Does that count?
;D
It's also got some JB Weld in the valve body now.
;)
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Well, it will have an all plastic stock. Does that count?
;D
It's also got some JB Weld in the valve body now.
;)
A plastic stock and JB Weld is a good start as far as I'm concerned. Now you need some zip ties and duct tape.
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A plastic stock and JB Weld is a good start as far as I'm concerned. Now you need some zip ties and duct tape.
Zip ties can make good plastic welding fill so you never know!
;D
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A plastic stock and JB Weld is a good start as far as I'm concerned. Now you need some zip ties and duct tape.
Zip ties can make good plastic welding fill so you never know!
;D
Yes they can. I've saved a couple of cracked plastic parts with them.
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Shhh.. don't tell nobody but I just lowered my standards and ordered a Jet 2.
Yep,, I went slummin' ::)
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You dirty dog you.
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Shhh.. don't tell nobody but I just lowered my standards and ordered a Jet 2.
Yep,, I went slummin' ::)
Jet 2 with aspirations of being a Jet 1? ;) ;)
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Shhh.. don't tell nobody but I just lowered my standards and ordered a Jet 2.
Yep,, I went slummin' ::)
Jet 2 with aspirations of being a Jet 1? ;) ;)
And yes, there is that little perk... you enabler you.
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You dirty dog you.
You know what they say.... you lay with dogs, you get fleas.
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Its a 3 dog night?
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No Comment :)
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LOL James... I should hope not.
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I'll throw up some eye candy for you to aspire to. ;D
I'm telling you this thing is addictive.
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Yeah I think I'll stop just short of the bottle conversion. ;)
I have 5 compressors and 5 tanks just steps away from the shooting bench and I rarely leave the shooting shed.
I shoot paper and little metal things out to 35 yards. 9 meters of that is indoors with heat, a fridge, internet, streaming TV and a/c. I also got a couple acres of mixed woods and open with a pond that I can run around on and shoot off hand.
Sounds like the JET 2 might be made for that.
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I would say it is. These hits were made at 50 yards with mine regulated to 8 fpe. It rarely misses at 15 to 20 yards.
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I have one of these for it with quick lock rings.
https://buck-rail.com/2-6x32-aoeg-scope-with-rings/
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I have one of these for it.
https://buck-rail.com/2-6x32-aoeg-scope-with-rings/ (https://buck-rail.com/2-6x32-aoeg-scope-with-rings/)
I've got one of those on my wife's Chaser carbine. It's a nice little scope for the money.
What caliber did you get?
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.22 and I also have 2 12 shot mags for it.
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I have one of these for it with quick lock rings.
https://buck-rail.com/2-6x32-aoeg-scope-with-rings/
Not sure you will get proper eye relief with that scope, may need a cantilever 11mm rail to get that right.
On that note just a reminder the Jet looks to have picatinny rail but is only 11mm compliant.
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I have one of these for it with quick lock rings.
https://buck-rail.com/2-6x32-aoeg-scope-with-rings/
Not sure you will get proper eye relief with that scope, may need a cantilever 11mm rail to get that right.
On that note just a reminder the Jet looks to have picatinny rail but is only 11mm compliant.
Yep, I noticed that.. I have options ;)
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I have one of these for it with quick lock rings.
https://buck-rail.com/2-6x32-aoeg-scope-with-rings/
Not sure you will get proper eye relief with that scope, may need a cantilever 11mm rail to get that right.
On that note just a reminder the Jet looks to have picatinny rail but is only 11mm compliant.
I'm not sure why they do that. They claim it's both, but I have yet to get a picatinny mount to work, it's as if the 11mm mount stick up too high to allow the picatinny mount to grip the wider picatinny portion of the rail. They need to just do one or the other and be done with it. Apparently they/ve never heard You can't be everything to everybody!
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I have a cantilever mount and/or some 11mm to picca inserts.
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The Monstrum Stealth I'm using has a little over 6 inches of eye relief so I was able to mount it forward of the magazine. The rings that came with it fit the picatinny rail too.
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I have the BR scope and cantilever mount on the SPA PP800 carbine now. It fits the breech rail on the shooter side of the mag so I would expect it to fit this gun as well. I have low rings on it so it's not high from bore center.
Everything points to the two 12 round mags from the Hatsan Flash QE working on the J2 and I have a silencer that I think I can adapt.
I have a holographic red dot that can be used as an option as well as a set of side mount bipod legs.
And I have a foam padded pistol case that everything will fit in nicely.
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I'm using my .25 Flashpup magazines in mine and they work great.
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1 more thing, the male foster on the gun is recessed so the provided female setup is a must. Seems to be a thorough informational video, to be taken lightly as it is sponsored.
https://youtu.be/RTOFwe8nhGo
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I'm using my .25 Flashpup magazines in mine and they work great.
Then the Vectis, Hydra, Flash & Flashpup magazines will work.
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And Paul is using the BullMaster/Barrage/Proxima/Sortie mag on his. The silver one.
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I saw a post or video ( can't remember which because I've spent the better half of the past 2 days looking at both) concerning the recessed foster fitting. The whole end cap screws off so you don't need the extended adapter. That will be nice if it's true. I'll know Monday as mine has shipped and I have tracking.
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just finished mounting the new NPO-1 barrel.
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just finished mounting the new NPO-1 barrel.
What did you do to make the barrel fit?
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just finished mounting the new NPO-1 barrel.
What did you do to make the barrel fit?
Had to drill new TP. Cut a lip to line up the mag. Dropped barrel OD from 14mm to 12.50mm.
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Just watched Fowlers Airguns, seems he did a longer barrel swap on his Jet2 .25 also.
https://youtu.be/4LyYWFrYKlM
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just finished mounting the new NPO-1 barrel.
What did you do to make the barrel fit?
Had to drill new TP. Cut a lip to line up the mag. Dropped barrel OD from 14mm to 12.50mm.
The reason for the new barrel was accuracy or power or what else ?
I cannot do any of those things, you must have a lathe and plenty of skills.
The Jet seems to be meant for skilled and perpetual tinkerers.
We who want to just shoot need to look elsewhere.
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just finished mounting the new NPO-1 barrel.
What did you do to make the barrel fit?
Had to drill new TP. Cut a lip to line up the mag. Dropped barrel OD from 14mm to 12.50mm.
The reason for the new barrel was accuracy or power or what else ?
I cannot do any of those things, you must have a lathe and plenty of skills.
The Jet seems to be meant for skilled and perpetual tinkerers.
We who want to just shoot need to look elsewhere.
Then maybe that's exactly what you should do instead of continually hammering on this thread. You've clearly expressed your opinion about the gun. And by your own admission, the Jet 1 and 2 are probably not the guns for you. Many others in this thread have reported there successes with the gun. Your comments do nothing more than bring negativity to the thread.
Please move on.
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I just bought a .177 Hatsan Jet 2 for about $160 after tax.
I guess I am not so negative anymore :)
I do not expect great shot strings.
I only want 1"-1.5" accuracy at 20 yards, enough to hit reactive targets.
If I cannot that accuracy I will have to send it back.
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I just bought a .177 Hatsan Jet 2 for about $160 after tax.
I guess I am not so negative anymore :)
I do not expect great shot strings.
I only want 1"-1.5" accuracy at 20 yards, enough to hit reactive targets.
If I cannot that accuracy I will have to send it back.
Yep, best way to do it. You should have no problem meeting those accuracy goals.
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I just bought a .177 Hatsan Jet 2 for about $160 after tax.
I guess I am not so negative anymore :)
I do not expect great shot strings.
I only want 1"-1.5" accuracy at 20 yards, enough to hit reactive targets.
If I cannot that accuracy I will have to send it back.
Welcome to the Jet Club! At least now you can make informed, fact based complaints about it! ;D Both my Jet 1 in .22 and Jet 2 in .25 are accurate at 25 yards. Neither is a powerhouse, but not bad. Stretching it to 35 yards or beyond is a bit beyond their effective range.
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I just bought a .177 Hatsan Jet 2 for about $160 after tax.
I guess I am not so negative anymore :)
I do not expect great shot strings.
I only want 1"-1.5" accuracy at 20 yards, enough to hit reactive targets.
If I cannot that accuracy I will have to send it back.
There ya go. If you can't hit that goal at 20 Yards?
Throw the gun!
;D
I've seen Matt do that group at about 20 yards and I don't think he's done anything to his.
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Keep in mind some of us can not leave something that works alone, we must fix it until it breaks :)
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Question... Does the Jet 2 from PA come with the moderator adapter?
If not, where did y'all get them?
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I don't care about noise. I just want something out there so it don't look like a truck stopped in front of it. It kinda looks like Boss. :o
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BTW... that picture of Boss is right after she took 10 hits in the face from a copperhead snake. Within 4 or 5 days she was back out there looking for another one.
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I just bought a .177 Hatsan Jet 2 for about $160 after tax.
I guess I am not so negative anymore :)
I do not expect great shot strings.
I only want 1"-1.5" accuracy at 20 yards, enough to hit reactive targets.
If I cannot that accuracy I will have to send it back.
There ya go. If you can't hit that goal at 20 Yards?
Throw the gun!
;D
I've seen Matt do that group at about 20 yards and I don't think he's done anything to his.
That was standing one hand too you know shooting it like a pistol who needs that stock not me.
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Most everyone that I have heard for the most part did get the adapter, some may have tossed theirs by accident ???
I want to mess with how mine lines up as there is a bit of a gap , but may be able to tun it into a sort of barrel tensioner to boot.
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I'd probably just fill the space with an oring or 2.
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Most of my short carbines are in .22 this is why I wanted a .177.
At first I wanted a Jet 1 so I can add a bottle.
But the Jet is small and light and a bottle would make it bigger and heavier.
And with a bottle you cannot shoot it as a pistol.
I might still buy a Jet 1 (if the price is low enough), since I have 2 regulated air bottles looking for an airgun :)
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I'd probably just fill the space with an oring or 2.
Get Miksatx to print you one of the little fatties like I have on mine. It looks good and works great.
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I'd probably just fill the space with an oring or 2.
Get Miksatx to print you one of the little fatties like I have on mine. It looks good and works great.
I'll hit him up... meantime, got a pic?
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I have a small one I printed works well on my .25.
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@ John, I think you made a good choice for the money. Let us know how it shoots.
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For anyone who was waiting on a Notos, PA and AGD have a limited supply in stock. Not sure how long they'll last... ;D
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what I have.
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Here's the one he printed for me. I think it's the perfect size for these guns.
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Paul... ain't that the way it always goes? :-\
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Paul... ain't that the way it always goes? :-\
LOL! Yep, me too!
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Hatsan has them back in stock as well.
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Hatsan has them back in stock as well.
Do they have any of the single cylinders? When I had the AT44, I had gotten a couple refurb cylinder, that would be an even better deal!
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Not sure, I didn't look.
I just got an update from UPS. Weather delay on the Jet 2. Last time it posted it was in Lexington, Ky.
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Not sure, I didn't look.
I just got an update from UPS. Weather delay on the Jet 2. Last time it posted it was in Lexington, Ky.
Hatsan has the new Jet 1 cylinders in stock for $79.99. Midway and PA want $99.99 for the same thing and claim they are on sale! I always thought a sale got you a lower price, not a higher one! :o
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Yoo Hoo !!
Anybody? Does the moderator adapter come in the box with the Jet 2? lol
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Yoo Hoo !!
Anybody? Does the moderator adapter come in the box with the Jet 2? lol
Neither of mine did, but I reached out to Hatsan USA and they sent me 2 of them. I don't know if they are still doing that, but it would be worth a try if it doesn't come with one.
Another alternates is to get one from Airgun Capital, they are $10 cheaper than the DonnyFL adapters. It's just a ½-20 UNF on both ends, so you might be able to find something from another source.
https://airguncapital.com/products/1-2-20-unf-double-male-adapter?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=d5494038c&pr_rec_pid=7094766469172&pr_ref_pid=7113243557940&pr_seq=uniform
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Shot mine as a pistol this afternoon. 20 yards standing with my palm under the tank. I don't call myself a pistol shooter, so it is what it is. Three of them went 1.5 inches on one was just over 2.
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Thanks Paul... disregard the PM.
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Mine came with an adapter.
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Mine came with an adapter.
Good to know... thanks. Sounds like it's hit or miss on them.
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Seems that way.
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I had energy to tinker today I made a plastic sleeve to interface with the barrel and shroud, seems to work much gooder now.
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-190124181344.jpeg)
My feeble attempt to shoot a fun match target, the bad shots were all me , maybe I need a trigger shoe, and a fatty LDC ???
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-190124180939.jpeg)
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Is it Me or just the picture?
Looks like the crown could use a bit of attention.
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Is it Me or just the picture?
Looks like the crown could use a bit of attention.
TBH if I were to do anything more with this barrel to make it more accurate it would be replacing it, not the best barrel not the worst...
My accuracy issues come from being over sprung and a bit of a sort of stiff trigger break, most likely from the heavy hammer spring.
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@ James, If you are using a stiffer hammer spring to get more power. A little more power can be gained by turning down the bolt probe diameter from .120 to .080. The bigger probe diameter blocks the air flow into the barrel.
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@ James, If you are using a stiffer hammer spring to get more power. A little more power can be gained by turning down the bolt probe diameter from .120 to .080. The bigger probe diameter blocks the air flow into the barrel.
To detune a .177 Jet 2 and get a flatter shot string, I assume I would need:
-weaker hammer spring
-stronger valve spring
Anything else?
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Hi John, I would try the weaker hammer spring first. The stronger valve spring well help shot to shot consistency, and shot count.
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Hi John, I would try the weaker hammer spring first. The stronger valve spring well help shot to shot consistency, and shot count.
Thank you James for your help.
My goal is a long flat short string, power is not very important, just enough for my plinking up to 20 yards.
So, the stronger valve spring is the first to try?
For a 177 Jet what stronger valve spring do you recommend?
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I plan on checking function first. Next will be accuracy with some assorted pellets. And finally some strings over the chrono. Then I can determine what, if any changes it would benefit from. Anything I do to it will be reversible.
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@ John, You probably know this, but I'll mention it. Make only one change at a time or you won't know what is effecting what. I would (start with the lighter hammer spring). A spring the same length as the OEM spring would be good, that way you will still have a free flight hammer.
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I will check for function (accuracy, power, leaks, etc) first.
If it is not accurate enough or the velocity is way too low or leaking I will send it back.
Assuming that all of the above are good.
I will go with a weaker hammer spring next.
I will use a different hammer spring (not the stock one) which I will cut as short as needed while shooting over the chrony.
I will ask more questions later :)
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I will check for function (accuracy, power, leaks, etc) first.
If it is not accurate enough or the velocity is way too low or leaking I will send it back.
Assuming that all of the above are good.
I will go with a weaker hammer spring next.
I will use a different hammer spring (not the stock one) which I will cut as short as needed while shooting over the chrony.
I will ask more questions later :)
Exactly..
I don't know your experience so I will offer this..
Shorten the hammer spring in small steps. It don't take much to make a significant difference.
Along with hammer and valve spring, reducing or enlarging the ID of the transfer port also can make changes in performance.
I personally have to be mindful when I take guns apart and put together back together because I tend to be a bit ham fisted and impatient. For me that has resulted in putting things on hold until new parts came in that I wrecked.
I once converted an SPA CP1/CP2 to PCP with PP800 parts. With the help of a couple more experienced members I set out to tune it for the best bell curve for accuracy and shot count. It's a length thread because I tend to "wander" in my threads but I'll post a link to where we got into the meat of the tuning.
Maybe it will help and maybe not.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=182687.msg156082734#msg156082734
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LOL... that thread contained a picture of the cantilever riser and scope I'll be using on the Jet 2.
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LOL... that thread contained a picture of the cantilever riser and scope I'll be using on the Jet 2.
I don't remember seeing your setup before, but I'm pretty sure that's the same scope and riser I'm running on my wife's Chaser carbine. Just because I don't remember doesn't mean I didn't steal the idea from you when I built it though. ;)
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I remember buying 2 of those risers for the Crosman 362 rifles but I would have to dig a little deeper to find where I got them.
Not a good pic of it but I'll post better pics in the thread I plan to post on the Jet 2 when I get it in my hands. Hopefully that will be tomorrow. I'll post a link here to that thread. My personal goal will be to follow the same path in setting the Jet 2 as I did with the PP800 build.
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Spent some time thinking and tinking with the .25 Jet1. I invented the "Trigger Tube", as a quick way to test my theory that a trigger shoe would be nice, and it is.
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-210124081057.jpeg)
Hacked a multi purpose clamp to hold the bottle steady, I may shape it to the contours, but flipping one side opposite did the trick for now.
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-210124083433.jpeg)
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-210124080844.jpeg)
Been having issues with silencers not giving me accuracy, I went back to the drawing board on an old attempt from the past. This was a custom shifter knob, now it removes bark ;)
Introducing the Jet1 Back_Roads Space Cowboy Edition ;D
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-210124082350.jpeg)
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Man.. that thing looks front heavy as heck. I bet it's fun to shoot though.
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Man.. that thing looks front heavy as heck. I bet it's fun to shoot though.
Actually the weight helps it settle in, shoots best off of a mono, or bipod, does not bench rest well ;) not too shabby off hand now either, I get less wiggle with the weight.
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I've got a Nitecore p30 clamped to mine and it weighs 5.8 pounds. I haven't checked the balance point, but it isn't tiresome to shoot.
https://youtube.com/shorts/etdLhYEAiXE?si=V5Z3xsh6YaRK-swy (https://youtube.com/shorts/etdLhYEAiXE?si=V5Z3xsh6YaRK-swy)
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Man.. that thing looks front heavy as heck. I bet it's fun to shoot though.
Actually the weight helps it settle in, shoots best off of a mono, or bipod, does not bench rest well ;) not too shabby off hand now either, I get less wiggle with the weight.
I think I have a clamp like that. I'll look around and give it a try if I can find it. I'm using a steel cable tie right now.
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I've got a Nitecore p30 clamped to mine and it weighs 5.8 pounds. I haven't checked the balance point, but it isn't tiresome to shoot.
https://youtube.com/shorts/etdLhYEAiXE?si=V5Z3xsh6YaRK-swy (https://youtube.com/shorts/etdLhYEAiXE?si=V5Z3xsh6YaRK-swy)
LOL.... looks like something that may have recently been declassified.
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I've got a Nitecore p30 clamped to mine and it weighs 5.8 pounds. I haven't checked the balance point, but it isn't tiresome to shoot.
https://youtube.com/shorts/etdLhYEAiXE?si=V5Z3xsh6YaRK-swy (https://youtube.com/shorts/etdLhYEAiXE?si=V5Z3xsh6YaRK-swy)
LOL.... looks like something that may have recently been declassified.
I can definitely see that. I might break it down if I ever travel with it. ;D
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I've got a Nitecore p30 clamped to mine and it weighs 5.8 pounds. I haven't checked the balance point, but it isn't tiresome to shoot.
https://youtube.com/shorts/etdLhYEAiXE?si=V5Z3xsh6YaRK-swy (https://youtube.com/shorts/etdLhYEAiXE?si=V5Z3xsh6YaRK-swy)
LOL.... looks like something that may have recently been declassified.
I can definitely see that. I might break it down if I ever travel with it. ;D
LOL... yeah, probably not a "carry on" item.
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I've got a Nitecore p30 clamped to mine and it weighs 5.8 pounds. I haven't checked the balance point, but it isn't tiresome to shoot.
https://youtube.com/shorts/etdLhYEAiXE?si=V5Z3xsh6YaRK-swy (https://youtube.com/shorts/etdLhYEAiXE?si=V5Z3xsh6YaRK-swy)
LOL.... looks like something that may have recently been declassified.
I can definitely see that. I might break it down if I ever travel with it. ;D
Maybe something like this with radiation warning stickers on it ???
(https://img.kwcdn.com/product/1e133b33ce5/2e51908c-17bc-4806-a006-8647734cd057_800x800.jpeg?imageView2/2/w/800/q/70)
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I've got a Nitecore p30 clamped to mine and it weighs 5.8 pounds. I haven't checked the balance point, but it isn't tiresome to shoot.
https://youtube.com/shorts/etdLhYEAiXE?si=V5Z3xsh6YaRK-swy (https://youtube.com/shorts/etdLhYEAiXE?si=V5Z3xsh6YaRK-swy)
LOL.... looks like something that may have recently been declassified.
I can definitely see that. I might break it down if I ever travel with it. ;D
LOL... yeah, probably not a "carry on" item.
I hope I won't be flying to any barn shooting spots. ;D
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I've got a Nitecore p30 clamped to mine and it weighs 5.8 pounds. I haven't checked the balance point, but it isn't tiresome to shoot.
https://youtube.com/shorts/etdLhYEAiXE?si=V5Z3xsh6YaRK-swy (https://youtube.com/shorts/etdLhYEAiXE?si=V5Z3xsh6YaRK-swy)
LOL.... looks like something that may have recently been declassified.
I can definitely see that. I might break it down if I ever travel with it. ;D
Maybe something like this with radiation warning stickers on it ???
(https://img.kwcdn.com/product/1e133b33ce5/2e51908c-17bc-4806-a006-8647734cd057_800x800.jpeg?imageView2/2/w/800/q/70)
I have mine in a HF case like that it all fits nicely in the 2 layers.
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;D Had no plans on making a video, but I did, maybe to give Bill something to watch as he waits for his jet to arrive LOL
https://youtu.be/bUccBTIOjcI
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Thanks for the video James. The volume was low but I got the idea. I was waiting for the cat to knock that tin of pellets off the table.
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Thanks for the video James. The volume was low but I got the idea. I was waiting for the cat to knock that tin of pellets off the table.
Yeah no fancy audio equipment, the cat that made a cameo in the Daisy Ronno Trigger mod video likes to borrow Allen wrenches other than that they leave stuff where it belongs LOL
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Well, mine should be here tomorrow.
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;D Had no plans on making a video, but I did, maybe to give Bill something to watch as he waits for his jet to arrive LOL
https://youtu.be/bUccBTIOjcI
Great cat !
The Jet 1 with the bottle looks space age, as you said :)
It looks pretty cool too.
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;D Had no plans on making a video, but I did, maybe to give Bill something to watch as he waits for his jet to arrive LOL
https://youtu.be/bUccBTIOjcI
Happy cat!
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Question for you guys, I have been looking at the jet because of the small size and side lever. Also looking at the notos because of the regulator and it seems to have a little more reach. My delima is that I already have a p-rod sp what am I gaining through either of those?
Side lever breech obviously, although the one on the notos doesn't look like it would be all that great since it sits flush but the regulator would be nice.
I don't care for fixed moderator so that is a down side as well.
It seems that the .25 would be loopy on the jet, would a .22 be better for hunting?
Would I be better off just staying with my prod? I could buy a regulator and a a few barrels from crosman for the price of either. Mine is the older model that needs larger diameter pellets but the new barrels seem to eliminate that.
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Question for you guys, I have been looking at the jet because of the small size and side lever. Also looking at the notos because of the regulator and it seems to have a little more reach. My delima is that I already have a p-rod sp what am I gaining through either of those?
Side lever breech obviously, although the one on the notos doesn't look like it would be all that great since it sits flush but the regulator would be nice.
I don't care for fixed moderator so that is a down side as well.
It seems that the .25 would be loopy on the jet, would a .22 be better for hunting?
Would I be better off just staying with my prod? I could buy a regulator and a a few barrels from crosman for the price of either. Mine is the older model that needs larger diameter pellets but the new barrels seem to eliminate that.
I know the Prod is dated but mine is deadly accurate and gets at least 2 mags per fill at around 13 fpe. The Notos can deliver more power and it's accurate as well, but I don't know if it's really that much better than a Prod. I bought my Jet specifically because I wanted a .25 and I saw it as a short range gun from the start, so I wasn't concerned with a loopy trajectory. I'm probably a weirdo, but I like low power .25 and high power .177. I don't shoot my .22 pcps nearly as much.
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The marauder looks like a great pistol - always wanted to try shooting one of those. Of the three you mentioned it’s the one that has the most appeal to me and to me at least upgrading the marauder seems like the way to go. (I say this because I started with a Talon P and gradually souped that thing up over a couple of years - the process was really gratifying)
I really like the artemis pp700 as well but it is single shot, no mag. The notos is a descendant of the pp7xx guns i believe,
and it has (?) to be better than the hatsan I think since it is more or less a well proven platform dressed up as something new.
I agree the affixed moderator seems like a poor choice (when I was in my teens, however, it would have been ideal so it probably makes sense for a fair number of people).
This is all my opinion obviously and I don’t expect anyone to take it. I’m aware that I haven’t shot any of those guns also lol.
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I would mod or upgrade the prod over buying a jet1. As far as the notos I have no experience with. Like Ed I wanted a .25 pistol no other real reason I bought a jet1.
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I'm a budget kinda guy and the Prod always seemed to be out of range for me. I know that sounds crazy because I've tinkered and upgraded guns investing more than the cost of a Prod.
Anyways... I am also not a fan of tactical looking guns.... normally. But watching others enjoying their NOTOS leaned me into wanting one. Even to the point I sold things to get one. But there were none to be had. Having shot the Jet 1 and 2 recently and my addictive personality that makes me want what I want and want it now, I decided to go all in on the Jet 2. 2 Days later more NOTOS came available. :o
When I was growing up my mom had a beautiful singing voice. One of her favorite songs to sing was Doris Day, What ever will be, will be. ;)
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Thanks for the replies everyone, sounds like I should just use the money to buy a compressor for what I already have!
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Thanks for the replies everyone, sounds like I should just use the money to buy a compressor for what I already have!
That's exactly what I would do if I didn't have one.
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Just got an update from UPS. The Jet 2 will now be delivered tomorrow. I suppose I can fix the curtains now and get away from the window. ::)
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Barrel installed. shooting way better!
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Question for you guys, I have been looking at the jet because of the small size and side lever. Also looking at the notos because of the regulator and it seems to have a little more reach. My delima is that I already have a p-rod sp what am I gaining through either of those?
Side lever breech obviously, although the one on the notos doesn't look like it would be all that great since it sits flush but the regulator would be nice.
I don't care for fixed moderator so that is a down side as well.
It seems that the .25 would be loopy on the jet, would a .22 be better for hunting?
Would I be better off just staying with my prod? I could buy a regulator and a a few barrels from crosman for the price of either. Mine is the older model that needs larger diameter pellets but the new barrels seem to eliminate that.
I know the Prod is dated but mine is deadly accurate and gets at least 2 mags per fill at around 13 fpe. The Notos can deliver more power and it's accurate as well, but I don't know if it's really that much better than a Prod. I bought my Jet specifically because I wanted a .25 and I saw it as a short range gun from the start, so I wasn't concerned with a loopy trajectory. I'm probably a weirdo, but I like low power .25 and high power .177. I don't shoot my .22 pcps nearly as much.
It is rumored their will be a better side lever coming out on a next gen Notos, Airgun Geeks IIr ???
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I'm surprised nobody has offered an after market one yet.
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Question for you guys, I have been looking at the jet because of the small size and side lever. Also looking at the notos because of the regulator and it seems to have a little more reach. My delima is that I already have a p-rod sp what am I gaining through either of those?
Side lever breech obviously, although the one on the notos doesn't look like it would be all that great since it sits flush but the regulator would be nice.
I don't care for fixed moderator so that is a down side as well.
It seems that the .25 would be loopy on the jet, would a .22 be better for hunting?
Would I be better off just staying with my prod? I could buy a regulator and a a few barrels from crosman for the price of either. Mine is the older model that needs larger diameter pellets but the new barrels seem to eliminate that.
I know the Prod is dated but mine is deadly accurate and gets at least 2 mags per fill at around 13 fpe. The Notos can deliver more power and it's accurate as well, but I don't know if it's really that much better than a Prod. I bought my Jet specifically because I wanted a .25 and I saw it as a short range gun from the start, so I wasn't concerned with a loopy trajectory. I'm probably a weirdo, but I like low power .25 and high power .177. I don't shoot my .22 pcps nearly as much.
Not trying to get to far off topic but what makes you say the notos can get more power? The p-rod can be set up to put out a pretty impressive power level imo.
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Virtually any gun can be modified to get more power.... if that's your goal.
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Question for you guys, I have been looking at the jet because of the small size and side lever. Also looking at the notos because of the regulator and it seems to have a little more reach. My delima is that I already have a p-rod sp what am I gaining through either of those?
Side lever breech obviously, although the one on the notos doesn't look like it would be all that great since it sits flush but the regulator would be nice.
I don't care for fixed moderator so that is a down side as well.
It seems that the .25 would be loopy on the jet, would a .22 be better for hunting?
Would I be better off just staying with my prod? I could buy a regulator and a a few barrels from crosman for the price of either. Mine is the older model that needs larger diameter pellets but the new barrels seem to eliminate that.
I should have said it made more power out of the box.
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Question for you guys, I have been looking at the jet because of the small size and side lever. Also looking at the notos because of the regulator and it seems to have a little more reach. My delima is that I already have a p-rod sp what am I gaining through either of those?
Side lever breech obviously, although the one on the notos doesn't look like it would be all that great since it sits flush but the regulator would be nice.
I don't care for fixed moderator so that is a down side as well.
It seems that the .25 would be loopy on the jet, would a .22 be better for hunting?
Would I be better off just staying with my prod? I could buy a regulator and a a few barrels from crosman for the price of either. Mine is the older model that needs larger diameter pellets but the new barrels seem to eliminate that.
I actually have all 3 in .22, so here goes nothing... The Notos is the most accurate and in stock form, the most powerful. It's also the only one that's regulated. The down size of the Notos is the small cocking lever that can be difficult at times. It's also the largest and no way to easily reduce its size. Like the Prod, the carbine stock is attached by screws, so breaking it down in the field requires tools and risks the chance of losing the screws. The Jet 1 is probably about the same power as aa stock Prod, but the Prod can easily be modified to more power with aftermarket parts that aren't available for the Jet.
The biggest advantage the Jet has over the other two is the ability to easily break it down in the field to pack in a backpack. It can use the larger Hatsan 12 round spring loaded magazines and has pretty decent iron sights, that actually clear those larger magazines, so no need to have an optic like the Notos and Prod. The Jet 1 also has the capability of hot swapping the air cylinder, so if you need extra air, you can alway bring along an extra air cylinder or two for extended shooting between refills. I just wish Hatsan would come out with a fill adapter to fill those cylinders off the airgun, because as it it right now, you have to fill the cylinder while it's attached to the gun, then remove it to fill another. All three are decent, light weight, compact carbines and all are fun to shoot.
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Got everything nestled nicely in a case. I just need to figure out the scope mounting.
Some of that stuff will come back out and get stashed elsewhere.
Gun, stock, mags and LDC is all that really need to be in there.
Sack of extra oring can go under the foam.
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Red Dot, Ldc and legs attached.
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Nice legs! :o
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Not sure how much they will be used but they are there.
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Just tell us how accurate it is.
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I haven't shot it for chrono numbers and accuracy yet. That will happen tomorrow. I just got it set up today.
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Sounds like it's coming together!
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Sounds like it's coming together!
Morning young man...
Yeah it is.
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Just realized I made all these post in the community Jet thread.. DOH
Let me see if I can move them.
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Are we on page 4 yet? lol
Probably would be if you had posted your last dozen posts to your thread instead of this one! LOL! This one's up to 38 pages!
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LOL..... SQUIRREL !!!
Sorry guys... I'll get those "No Text" replies deleted.
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Oh boy... I can see an avatar change in my near future. :o
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Oh boy... I can see an avatar change in my near future. :o
Can I make a suggestion...
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Oh boy... I can see an avatar change in my near future. :o
Can I make a suggestion...
Best to let sleeping squirrels lay. I already poked the bear. :o
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You sure asked for it lol.
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shot string 250b to 150b
Bullet : 7.9 gr Crosman
Shot count: 22
Low: 731
Hi: 833
Avg: 786
STD Dev: 27
Spread: 102
2024-01-23 06:27:15,772,FPS,10.5,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:04:46,833,FPS,12.2,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:05:24,821,FPS,11.8,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:07:43,819,FPS,11.8,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:07:54,821,FPS,11.8,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:08:18,814,FPS,11.6,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:08:31,793,FPS,11.0,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:08:42,789,FPS,10.9,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:10:33,807,FPS,11.4,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:10:53,803,FPS,11.3,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:11:06,791,FPS,11.0,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:11:18,791,FPS,11.0,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:11:28,791,FPS,11.0,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:11:39,786,FPS,10.9,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:11:49,782,FPS,10.7,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:11:59,763,FPS,10.2,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:13:41,763,FPS,10.2,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:14:49,770,FPS,10.4,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:15:05,752,FPS,9.9,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:15:44,745,FPS,9.7,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:15:59,747,FPS,9.8,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:18:16,731,FPS,9.4,FT Lbs,
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Is that a 1 or a 2?
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Is that a 1 or a 2?
Mine is a 2. my pocket chrony missed a mag full pellets.
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shot string 250b to 150b
Bullet : 7.9 gr Crosman
Shot count: 22
Low: 731
Hi: 833
Avg: 786
STD Dev: 27
Spread: 102
2024-01-23 06:27:15,772,FPS,10.5,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:04:46,833,FPS,12.2,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:05:24,821,FPS,11.8,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:07:43,819,FPS,11.8,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:07:54,821,FPS,11.8,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:08:18,814,FPS,11.6,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:08:31,793,FPS,11.0,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:08:42,789,FPS,10.9,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:10:33,807,FPS,11.4,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:10:53,803,FPS,11.3,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:11:06,791,FPS,11.0,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:11:18,791,FPS,11.0,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:11:28,791,FPS,11.0,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:11:39,786,FPS,10.9,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:11:49,782,FPS,10.7,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:11:59,763,FPS,10.2,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:13:41,763,FPS,10.2,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:14:49,770,FPS,10.4,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:15:05,752,FPS,9.9,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:15:44,745,FPS,9.7,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:15:59,747,FPS,9.8,FT Lbs,
2024-01-24 12:18:16,731,FPS,9.4,FT Lbs,
I have a .177 Jet 2.
I really hope I can improve the shot string.
I am fine with lower power but that spread is bad.
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For the bottle conversion, would brass fittings work or should I be looking at stainless steel exclusively?
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For the bottle conversion, would brass fittings work or should I be looking at stainless steel exclusively?
I prefer stainless and matching brands if possible as to have the best fit.
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Much obliged!
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Is there a specific vendor you guys use for these fittings? There are some pretty large cost variations. I'd hate to cheap out and risk safety. Who would you recommend?
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I have a .177 Jet 2.
I really hope I can improve the shot string.
I am fine with lower power but that spread is bad.
Hope it has a better barrel then mine. I tried Hatsan for a replacement none in stock what they told me.
Good luck on the tinker trail!
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I have a .177 Jet 2.
I really hope I can improve the shot string.
I am fine with lower power but that spread is bad.
Hope it has a better barrel then mine. I tried Hatsan for a replacement none in stock what they told me.
Good luck on the tinker trail!
I have shot 150-200 pellets through my 177 Jet 2 since I got it yesterday.
I tried 7 different pellets.
The accuracy seems acceptable, on average about 1" at 18 yards.
That accuracy is not great, but I can live with it for the $160 I paid for it.
I fully expected it to be a 20 yards plinker, and that it is.
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My original barrel shot RWS Meirsterkuglen Pistol pellets the best out a bunch of others.
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My original barrel shot RWS Meirsterkuglen Pistol pellets the best out a bunch of others.
What was the accuracy with the original barrel?
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My original barrel shot RWS Meirsterkuglen Pistol pellets the best out a bunch of others.
What was the accuracy with the original barrel?
3/4"at 16yards.
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My original barrel shot RWS Meirsterkuglen Pistol pellets the best out a bunch of others.
What was the accuracy with the original barrel?
3/4"at 16yards.
What is the accuracy with the new Kral barrel?
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My original barrel shot RWS Meirsterkuglen Pistol pellets the best out a bunch of others.
What was the accuracy with the original barrel?
3/4"at 16yards.
What is the accuracy with the new Kral barrel?
pellet on pellet when I do my part lol. 1squirrel 2hosps!
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Jeff swung by for a visit and lunch today. He needed my SCBA fill station to fill his up. He also took my jet1 home to mess with, someone was asking him questions about it and its better to answer if he had it in hand. It developed a leak over the months and cold it was stored in. Its been so long I don't remember what I stored it at, and it had gotten well below freezing where it was stored so meh a few new oring's and move on.
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The very 1st thing I noticed about Matt's Jet 1?
And he will back me up on this. I told him the magazine looks like an FX Streamline magazine!
So guess what I just done did? Yep. Loaded the Streamline magazine and tested it.
Any guesses as to the results?
???
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I bet it worked.
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Bingo! We have a winner!
;D
Same number of rounds in the magazine in a smaller housing.
The Streamline is also a metal body magazine.
Cocking was VERY smooth so another option for magazine choice Guys.
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Bingo! We have a winner!
;D
Same number of rounds in the magazine in a smaller housing.
The Streamline is also a metal body magazine.
Cocking was VERY smooth so another option for magazine choice Guys.
Streamline like FX Streamline??
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Yes.
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Here's the Streamline magazine next to the Jet magazine.
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/9974-260124153053.jpeg)
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Does the NOTOS mag fit the Jet? Has anyone tried?
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As high as the hole is? It looks more like a Dreamline magazine.
I'd like to see the barrel side of one.
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I'll have to wait until Tuesday or Wednesday when mine arrives.
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Does the NOTOS mag fit the Jet? Has anyone tried?
That is a negative! They are different widths. The Jet magazines are wider.
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Does the NOTOS mag fit the Jet? Has anyone tried?
That is a negative! They are different widths. The Jet magazines are wider.
Thanks Paul.
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Ouch that's 1/2 the price of the Jet1 LOL I'll stick with Hatsan Mags LOL
https://utahairguns.com/product/fx-mini-magazine/
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Sale going on now!
https://www.fieldsupply.com/airguns/accessories/hatsan-flash-flashpup-pcp-magazine.html
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These are the magazines I'm using and they are even cheaper...
https://www.fieldsupply.com/airguns/hatsan-semi-auto-pcp-rifle-magazine-25cal-10-shot.html
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These are the magazines I'm using and they are even cheaper...
https://www.fieldsupply.com/airguns/hatsan-semi-auto-pcp-rifle-magazine-25cal-10-shot.html
Wowser!
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I have no idea what the difference is between the Flash mags and the semi-auto mags, other than the semi-auto are aluminum and the Flash mags are plastic. But, then, you'd think the Flash mags would be cheaper.
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These are the magazines I'm using and they are even cheaper...
https://www.fieldsupply.com/airguns/hatsan-semi-auto-pcp-rifle-magazine-25cal-10-shot.html
Are you using these magazines in the Hatsan Jet or Umarex Notos?
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These are the magazines I'm using and they are even cheaper...
https://www.fieldsupply.com/airguns/hatsan-semi-auto-pcp-rifle-magazine-25cal-10-shot.html
Are you using these magazines in the Hatsan Jet or Umarex Notos?
The Jet, they won't fit in the Notos.
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About the Jet, I bought one and upon recieving it immediately bought another. MidwayUSA had all calibers on sale, a .25 was 135 bucks just a week or so ago. It jumped and I got one for 150. They also had discounted Sortie mags, got the last one for 14$. They're metal and 10rd, major upgrade.
Now I have 4x6round mags and 1x10round. Quite the stack. Also two tubes now, so a field spare because the Jet 1 allows hotswap, THE selling point for me really. Almost left my second at the range yesterday, don't make the same mistake.
I bought the second because once I sat down and looked at the design, I realized how genius it is. Its not evident in videos and pictures becaise no one has really cracked its code yet. I feel I did and I should have some enlightening posts here soon. I think this was built with immense potential hidden in the design. Noone has realised why certain things exist on the gun to direct the user to perfect balancing and numerous unadvertised configurations. I've researched it a lot, and all the best reviewers have been less than impressed by the Jet1 because they just werent thinking creatively. They have been intentionally mesmarised by the Hatsan designers, who made a fairly perfect gun and hid it under a hideous facade for silly, fear ridden markets. No other gun offers the mod potential I see here in the Jet1. 2240 be darn.
The Jet 2 is backwards progress. More air but can't hot swap so virtually useless to me. The new Jet3 is also backwards progress, to me. For the stock off'the'shelf Jet buyer, the Jet 3 prolly is best of all 3 models. To me, the Jet 1 is where its at.
I am mainly interested in combining 2 Jet cylinders to make a longer single cylinder. The proper double male connecter should do the trick. Longer tubes would give support for an fx slug liner, which this needs for slugs for sure. Yet, before this I was looking for a smaller pcp tube applicable to true single hand pistols and I hereby direct anyone who doesn,t yet know to the new Velox, by Hatsan. Pretty sure everyone wants one. That tiny tube has countless uses.
As for my tube extension, I honed in on the Air Venturi Avenger and the AvengeX as possible sources, before I got the second jet which may allow me to combine tubes.
Got a red dot and sighted in at 25 yards yesterday. Freakishly accurate. I was impressed. The slugs spun off into oblivion, like 3 foot off target, upper left every time. That was Grizzly 31 grain slugs, useless for this downrange. The Hatsan Vortex I grabbed w my second Jet were very accurate. I was standing and just training my eyes to use a red dot and to use the bolt and reload etc. So my shots were very quick, more like a self defense situation, and they ALL landed where the dot was at on target. This was a 39$ red dot from Bass Pro, it needed corrected left A LOT, but did not need any vertical correction.
Word of warning. I shot a slug first thing, and the gun dieseled very hard. That first shot sounded like an elephant gun. So when getting your new gun out, be aware that first shot may be the strongest it ever shoots.
Fyi my barrel mod for slugs will pretty much force a longer barrel in order to get a full twist, which would up the velocity and then potentially be over the legal limit for where I'm at in IL. So I am pretty muched forced to play with upping the caliber to bring that velocity back down, and to use a heavy slug liner to further drop velocity via heavier slugs. That mod may interest some people trying to get the best from the Jet and I could probably use some help with it. I'm actually a newb.
I look forward to catching up on this thread and watching your results. I haven't opened mine up yet and would love to know what tunes are possible beforehand. I toy with the idea of a regulator, after shifting to a 300bar Ait Venturi cylinder.
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For about $160 I like my .177 Jet 2.
Accuracy is about 3/4-1" at 18 yards.
Good for plinking fun.
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I have a Jet 2 in .177.
I slightly flattened my shot string by:
-removing the 2 hammer spring preload washers
-adding 2 M3 nuts as preload to the valve spring
Now I get 4 magazines (32 shots) from 250-260 bar to 160-170 bar, between 780-820 FPS with 7.5 grain pellets.
I am not sure if changing to a weaker hammer spring and a stronger valve spring would help too much at this point.
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Finally got a video made to show off my Jet mods.
Yet I can't post external links. >:(
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Finally got a video made to show off my Het mods.
Yet I can't post external links. >:(
Write the title and the author of your youtube video.
I will search for it and post the link here.
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Nice!
The video is called
Hatsan Jet Custom Mods Pt. 1
Author is
mr.peacetheater294
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Nice!
The video is called
Hatsan Jet Custom Mods Pt. 1
Author is
mr.peacetheater294
This is the Youtube video mentioned above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foI8MgIrdow&ab_channel=Mr.PeaceTheater
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I am mainly interested in combining 2 Jet cylinders to make a longer single cylinder. The proper double male connecter should do the trick. Longer tubes would give support for an fx slug liner, which this needs for slugs for sure. Yet, before this I was looking for a smaller pcp tube applicable to true single hand pistols and I hereby direct anyone who doesn,t yet know to the new Velox, by Hatsan. Pretty sure everyone wants one. That tiny tube has countless uses.
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The Hatsan Jet 2 already has 2 tubes (80cc), one next to another.
What would you gain by connecting 2 tubes the way you want?
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I am mainly interested in combining 2 Jet cylinders to make a longer single cylinder. The proper double male connecter should do the trick. Longer tubes would give support for an fx slug liner, which this needs for slugs for sure. Yet, before this I was looking for a smaller pcp tube applicable to true single hand pistols and I hereby direct anyone who doesn,t yet know to the new Velox, by Hatsan. Pretty sure everyone wants one. That tiny tube has countless uses.
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The Hatsan Jet 2 already has 2 tubes (80cc), one next to another.
What would you gain by connecting 2 tubes the way you want?
You can't reload tubes on the Jet 2. When you're out of fuel, you absolutely have to use a pump or compressor. Example... on very long treks, if you want a pellet gun with you, springers and breakbarrels arent going to do much for self defense due to reload times and other silliness. A pcp wont help if you have fuel issues... a pump breaks etc. With auxilliary live tubes it opens up a world of mobility. For a trek, a few tubes can be packed charged. Seems way better to me that hauling any sort of pump up the mountain. I can think of numerous situations where having a number of tubes beats a single (or dual) fixed setup. I mean a dual tank is useless if its bad. At least if one auxilliary loses integrity, you have a backup or two. "Weighing" all options, the lightest and most secure way to take a Jet, or any pcp for that matter, on a trek is with a few auxilliaries. I know there are various sized tank for this, but I do not like the idea of having a larger tank, personally. I need room in my pack, for one. All about mobility.
People do have issue actually swapping the live tubes but maybe I can figure out a way to make it easy.
Also, I'm looking at trying a slug barrel and it would help to have a support point.
i suppose another reason is I do want the double air capacity but dont want to trade off to a fixed tube. Would be ok with numerous shorter tubes but it is an upgrade to have the ability to combine them and extend shot count.
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You just know eventually someone is gonna do it.... a Jet 2 with double extended tubes. 8)
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Lols.
Definitely not me though. I know I'd just switch to a drop down tank or something at that point, and I would no longer want to use it. But tinkerers gonna tinker.
I actually really want to fit the Air Venturi Avenger smaller hidden tube to the Jet 1. It would likely be lighter than Jet tubes in series and is a single unit. The Avenger original should mod to a Jet 1, while the AvengeX should mod to a Jet 2 with a little more difficulty. The port hole and o rings on the AvengeX are not in the same locations as the Jet 2's, so I'm unsure yet. The Avenger original seems to have usable tubes though.
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Since I upgraded my .25 cal Jet from single cylinder to double cylinder, I have a second cylinder and a spare valve. I had this idea of using the spare valve as a way to fill the spare cylinder off the gun since they are pretty tough to actually off the gun when fully charged! I added some Permatex anti-seize grease to the threads of the valve on the gun and those on the spare valve. Now I can fill the spare off the gun to 250 BAR and easily unscrew it from the spare valve. A full cylinder is still difficult to unscrew from the gun, but one with only 100BAR in it comes off pretty easily with the anti-seize grease. So, much easier to head out with 2 full cylinders and swap them in the field when needed.
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Since I upgraded my .25 cal Jet from single cylinder to double cylinder, I have a second cylinder and a spare valve. I had this idea of using the spare valve as a way to fill the spare cylinder off the gun since they are pretty tough to actually off the gun when fully charged! I added some Permatex anti-seize grease to the threads of the valve on the gun and those on the spare valve. Now I can fill the spare off the gun to 250 BAR and easily unscrew it from the spare valve. A full cylinder is still difficult to unscrew from the gun, but one with only 100BAR in it comes off pretty easily with the anti-seize grease. So, much easier to head out with 2 full cylinders and swap them in the field when needed.
Legit. I think I would do the same. I'm currently onto a mod for a slug barrel and those don't come short, so I'm hoping to gain some barrel support by adding a longer single on the Jet1.
I DO have a second Jet to mod, we'll see where that one goes. My initial plan was to mimic the EdGun Lelya 2.0.
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Wait.... so you can unscrew your Jet 2 tubes at less than 100 bar and replace one w a charged Jet 1 tube as ypu described? So the Jet 2 IS reloadable? Does each Jet 2 tube have a valve to hold air when its removed? I thought that was the main difference, that there is no way to swap a Jet 2 tube.. i should hqve known, but figured there was a valve missing from the Jet 2 tubes that would make it dangerous.
Im a newb.
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Wait.... so you can unscrew your Jet 2 tubes at less than 100 bar and replace one w a charged Jet 1 tube as ypu described? So the Jet 2 IS reloadable? Does each Jet 2 tube have a valve to hold air when its removed? I thought that was the main difference, that there is no way to swap a Jet 2 tube.. i should hqve known, but figured there was a valve missing from the Jet 2 tubes that would make it dangerous.
Im a newb.
Officially: No... Unofficially: Sorta... I originally purchased two Jet 1s, one in .22 and one in .25. I purchased the dual cylinder and converted the .25 Jet 1 to a Jet 2.
My .22 Jet 1 has the air cylinder that unscrews and is hot swappable. Since you replace the single cylinder and valve when you change it to a Jet 2, I now have a spare single cylinder and valve with the screw on adapter. What I did was screw the spare valve onto the spare cylinder and fill it with my air source. I could then unscrew the spare cylinder and take it with me. The cylinder unscrews from the spare valve much easier when under full pressure than it does from the gun, but only because you can get a better grip on the cylinder and valve than trying to grab the cylinder when it's attached to the gun.
Now, waving said that, there is only 1 or 2 screws that secures the valve to the gun and when under pressure, the valve holds air just fine. So, technically, when you removed the dual cylinder from the Jet, the valves comes out with it. Since the valve is sealed, you could undo the retaining screw(s), and pull the whole dual assembly and replace it with another while it's under pressure! Hatsan says you can't, but I'm sure that's the lawyers giving their input. As long as the cocking lever is back and the hammer is not resting on the valve stem there is no reason air would escape from the valve. So replacing one dual cylinder assembly with another should be possible, while under pressure.
Disclosure: I have not tried this and probably won't. If you do, do so at your own risk.
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Since the valve is sealed, you could undo the retaining screw(s), and pull the whole dual assembly and replace it with another while it's under pressure!
K I get that, but can you remove either tube from the valve body of the Jet2 while under pressure and actually use a spare tube from the Jet 1 leftover? I guess Im not seeing how to utilize a spare Jet1 tube that you've charged using the spare valve off the gun like you described. How do you actually use that tube?
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Since I upgraded my .25 cal Jet from single cylinder to double cylinder, I have a second cylinder and a spare valve. I had this idea of using the spare valve as a way to fill the spare cylinder off the gun since they are pretty tough to actually off the gun when fully charged! I added some Permatex anti-seize grease to the threads of the valve on the gun and those on the spare valve. Now I can fill the spare off the gun to 250 BAR and easily unscrew it from the spare valve. A full cylinder is still difficult to unscrew from the gun, but one with only 100BAR in it comes off pretty easily with the anti-seize grease. So, much easier to head out with 2 full cylinders and swap them in the field when needed.
I see how the pressure gauge is set on a Jet 1 tube, somewhat protected inside its own little cavity so you don't unscrew it trying to wrestle off a live tube. That would be catastrophic.
It dawns on me that this cavity is an opportunity to design in a couple notches or something to allow a centrifical leverage device to be used. Even a small allen wrench can add leverage, if there were just maybe 2 or 3 places to insert it inside of that cavity yoi could gain leverage for hot swaps.
The sleakness of the tube is great, and it fits so snugg to the barrel shroud, but for the Jet1 there just isnt an easy way to get leverage so I may work on that concept. I found a custom pcp tube maker, offers a titanium tube with your choice of end fittings, 300 bar. I figure I can then find a way to customize the end piece that accepts the guage. All that would be needed is two small holes so it could accept a tool. The tool I have in mind is for grinding wheels and sometimes circ saws, for blade swaps. You would uncrew the guage housing first but youd be able to have true leverage as long as the threads were in reverse. Thats a total custom build, but doable. Then I'd be regulating down from 300bar, but that seems ok. In theory thats ideal if I could regulate.
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I only use the spare cylinder on the Jet 1. The dual tubes on the Jet 2 are not individually removable, they only come off as an assembly that includes the valve.
The single cylinders have a valve built into them, the tubes used with the Dual Tube assembly do not.
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Paul do you have some pics of both? It may help show the difference.
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Paul do you have some pics of both? It may help show the difference.
I do, but not removed from the gun. The top picture is the Jet 1 in .22 and the Jet 1 that was converted to a Jet 2 in .25.
The bottom picture is the valve I removed from the .25 Jet. It's shown without the air cylinder attached, so you can see the threads where the air cylinder screws onto it.
The Jet 2 does not have that threaded adapter. I have not taken the dual cylinder assembly apart, but I'm assuming the threads are on the inside diameter of the cylinder wall just like most air cylinders. I suppose you might be able to modify the dual cylinder assembly so that both air cylinders could be screwed on, but it would increase the weight tremendously, and I don't know if the threaded adapter on the valve can even be fitted to the Dual Cylinder block.
The whole purpose of my post was to show a Jet 1 could easily be converted to a Jet 2 and the spare valve could be used as a fill adapter for the left over single air cylinder.
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Wonder if a guy could buy a half dozen or so of those foster caps?
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Wonder if a guy could buy a half dozen or so of those foster caps?
Next best thing:
https://a.co/d/7mdAONG
And they are harder to lose!
Edit
Link not showing up...
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I'll look for 5/16 rubber screw caps at Lowes when I go for springs while I'm in Troy this month.
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Thanks for the input on this stuff.
I feel like I need to dissassemble a Jet 2 tubes and valve setup fully. I would make it my next video, but the next one in line is a good video showing a full teardown of the Jet. If I can get a Jet2 dual tube setup on the cheap I will prolly make that dissasembly part of the same video.
It may be that since they wont have inner valves on the Jet 2 tubes, each of those could be added in line to a seperate Jet1 tube. Keeping the same foster fitting on my jet 1, I would be able to replace the Jet2's terminal foster valve with a guage. I kinda need all the parts in front of me. Does anyone have a Jet2 dual cylinder thay want to part with?
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Anyone ever tried this type of stuff w their buttstock? I found that extra inch in the rear is essential for me, guess I'm too big at 5'11". It really makes a huge difference. The lower portion is a great balancing mod. It feels waaaaaaay better in one arm that way. I like larger, heavier rears. I mean, I like big butts and I cannot lie. It just flows better for me when pulling up to aim. i like it to be touching my inner elbow. Feels more like an extension of my arm that way and I get way faster sighting..
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So I take it noone has done much to their Jet buttstock.... seems everyone just accepts it like bad cafeteria food? All the effort to shoot good powerful shots with close shot strings etc... and literally everyone is using something sized for a juvenile? Its ALMOST unbelievable.
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Set mine up in compact mode, also a bottle not as compact but short LOP, for shooting from tight places.
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-050224083139.jpeg)
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-120124181340.jpeg)
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It's all a matter of personal preference.
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Yep, I like the compactness of it and LOP is good for me. As James pointed out, great for tight places!
The only thing I did was add a "D" ring to attach a sling.
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I have a Jet 2 in .177.
I slightly flattened my shot string by:
-removing the 2 hammer spring preload washers
-adding 2 M3 nuts as preload to the valve spring
Now I get 4 magazines (32 shots) from 250-260 bar to 160-170 bar, between 780-820 FPS with 7.5 grain pellets.
I am not sure if changing to a weaker hammer spring and a stronger valve spring would help too much at this point.
With my .177 Jet 2 I have managed to get 6 magazines (48 shots) with 7.5-8 grain pellets in the 740-780 FPS range from 250 bar to 130 bar.
These are the mods:
-removed the 2 hammer spring preload washers
-added 1 M3 nut as preload to the valve spring
-placed 1 washer on the valve stem where the valve spring sits
This washer will restrict the air flowing into the barrel, and also acts as valve spring preload.
Initially the washer was restricting most air and got velocities in the 400 FPS range.
I ground the washer outer diameter a little to allow more air to pass.
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That's excellent John, I'm glad you figured out how to tune it.
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That's excellent John, I'm glad you figured out how to tune it.
The FPS is in the 740-780 range but it often jumps up and down 10-30 FPS.
I am not sure what the cause is.
Without those jumps I could probably get a 30FPS spread.
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I recently got a .25 jet 1, and I have been stunned by the absence of info concerning dis assembly. Mine leaks like so many of the others, and I would just as soon repair it myself. Any suggestions?
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I recently got a .25 jet 1, and I have been stunned by the absence of info concerning dis assembly. Mine leaks like so many of the others, and I would just as soon repair it myself. Any suggestions?
I used this post to get to the hammer spring:
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=204810.msg156400319#msg156400319
I could not find photos on how to disassemble the valve and air cylinder, but it is actually easy and I am not an expert in any way.
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I recently got a .25 jet 1, and I have been stunned by the absence of info concerning dis assembly. Mine leaks like so many of the others, and I would just as soon repair it myself. Any suggestions?
I put 200 pellets thru mine and now I'm joining the Jet 1 Leak Club. I fixed mine easily by having a second jet. I found the first had leaked out all of the air and would hiss out of the barrel when trying to fill. So I got out the second new Jet to test my new BuckRail supressor (great for 35$!)
Somewhere along the way I swapped a charged barrel back into the original now hissing Jet, and had put a drop of Lucas Gun Oil into the silver foster valve opening trying to get at that tiny o-ring. Maybe 2 drops there. Also a tiny amount on the treads of the tube. Very tiny. WHEN I swapped the charged tube (approx 12 bar) into the hissing Jet it held air, then began to release it very quietlt and slowly about a minute later. So Tried pumping, and the loud hiss came back fully. I figured I was onto something so i put a drop on the silver tip inside the tube for redundancy and recharged that tube into the green using my other Jet. I diligently put about 5 drops of gun oil into the small hole on the male threaded valve block of the hissing gun (not the tube, the small hoffset hole on the protruding reciever interface). I made sure those drops got down inside with a lil plastic piece. Lucus moved itself down there nicely with its own self cohesion, I drive every car I own to 300K miles using Lucas products and sell them driving just fine, so definitely Lucas for my gun.
Anyways when I put the charged tube on, the pressure pushed everything into place apparently and its currently holding air.
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Yep, I like the compactness of it and LOP is good for me. As James pointed out, great for tight places!
The only thing I did was add a "D" ring to attach a sling.
After building out that bigger monstrosity I realized that while it makes a great fit for the range, its not near as good for packing as the original. So I went the opposite direction...
I cut an arrow in half, fit the two of them into the upper buttstock reciever port, and am happy with the initial result. It needs a rear swivel and pad, but its ultra ultra light and still gives the aiming support needed for a good carbine shot. A single larger tube would maybe be better but the two arrows worked well enough to ensure I will build something for the general concept.
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I recently got a .25 jet 1, and I have been stunned by the absence of info concerning dis assembly. Mine leaks like so many of the others, and I would just as soon repair it myself. Any suggestions?
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So I got out the second new Jet to test my new BuckRail supressor (great for 35$!)
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I 3D print my suppressors and they cost around $1.
It takes 6 to 10 hours to print a quality suppressor, so I do it over night.
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I 3D print my suppressors and they cost around $1.
It takes 6 to 10 hours to print a quality suppressor, so I do it over night.
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What printer do you use?
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I 3D print my suppressors and they cost around $1.
It takes 6 to 10 hours to print a quality suppressor, so I do it over night.
What printer do you use?
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i have a Anycubic Kobra.
I am sure there many other 3D printers just as good.
You need to know how to use it.
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i have a Anycubic Kobra.
I am sure there many other 3D printers just as good.
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Thats my price range and seems legit. I was going to get the cheapest one on Amazon for about 150 but the Kobra seems good. I want one large enough to print Jet buttstocks and shrouds, I'll have to look closer.
The Buck Rail was kinda an obvious economy choice not having a printer and wanting decent supression asap. I also really wanted to know how welll they work for comparison.
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Thats my price range and seems legit. I was going to get the cheapest one on Amazon for about 150 but the Kobra seems good. I want one large enough to print Jet buttstocks and shrouds, I'll have to look closer.
The Buck Rail was kinda an obvious economy choice not having a printer and wanting decent supression asap. I also really wanted to know how welll they work for comparison.
I 3D printed some stocks too.
Usually they are printed in smaller parts and sometimes you need to glue them together.
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Anyone ever shoot the .25 Umarex Brimstone Pellets or the .25 Dead Centers with their Jet? I found the Grizzly slugs were awful, I mean REALLY awful, so I'm looking to try some heavier pellets.
What other .25 heavy pellets might be good? FX Airguns brand?
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Anyone ever shoot the .25 Umarex Brimstone Pellets or the .25 Dead Centers with their Jet? I found the Grizzly slugs were awful, I mean REALLY awful, so I'm looking to try some heavier pellets.
What other .25 heavy pellets might be good? FX Airguns brand?
Air Arms, H&N Hunter, Poly Mag, NSA slugs, all work in mine
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Well, I got around to tinkering with mine, and it really is simple in construction! All I did with mine is to clean out the debris, which was everywhere, lube with silicone grease, and re assemble.....no more leaks, for now! Here's hoping for no further problems.
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Wonder if a guy could buy a half dozen or so of those foster caps?
Foster Caps
Here’s a lifetime supply --- 200 caps --- for 5-1/2 cents each.
Can't post hyperlink ? Amazon ASIN B08HLZZR89
These are black vinyl screw protectors with a nominal 7.5mm ID. A Foster quick- connect plug has a nominal 8mm OD.
Vinyl screw caps need to stretch to fit, otherwise they will fall off.
On the above, I like to scissor-off about 2mm from the open end to eliminate extra space.
Red caps are also available.
(http://)
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Let me try again
www.amazon.com/dp/B08HLZZR89/ (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HLZZR89/)
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Got mine torn down... barrel removed, handle removed, etc. Love this gun. It will be apart for a lil while so if anyone wants any closeup pics of parts or design lemme know.
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I use tire valve caps for foster covers
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Seems like one of the drop block regulator valve assemblies being sold on Ali should fit the Jet. This way you'd be able to simply screw on a bottle. I only got my Jet over the weekend but I've been following this thread for a while.
Unfortunately/fortunately I'm at work right now and can't tear the thing apart to fix it until it's broke but the wheels in my head are spinning.
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Seems like one of the drop block regulator valve assemblies being sold on Ali should fit the Jet. This way you'd be able to simply screw on a bottle. I only got my Jet over the weekend but I've been following this thread for a while.
Unfortunately/fortunately I'm at work right now and can't tear the thing apart to fix it until it's broke but the wheels in my head are spinning.
I do not think it is possible to add drop block for the Jet 2.
For Jet 2 the valve and the 2 air cylinders cannot be separated.
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Oops. I did not specify. I'm working with a jet 1.
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Pull both tanks and the valve to add the drop block to the Jet 2? Basically turns it into a Jet 1 with the drop block and tank.
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Pull both tanks and the valve to add the drop block to the Jet 2? Basically turns it into a Jet 1 with the drop block and tank.
So, the Jet valve is removed and the new valve will be the valve from the drop block?
I am not sure if the Jet valve and the drop block valve have the same diameters.
Has anybody tried that?
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Yes. That's basically what I'm thinking. Then I can lose the shoud can get a slip on moderator adapter too. Instead of the hokie adapter that threads onto the shroud.
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Yes. That's basically what I'm thinking. Then I can lose the shoud can get a slip on moderator adapter too. Instead of the hokie adapter that threads onto the shroud.
I am getting a drop block for the Notos.
It does not have the regulator, but takes a regulated bottle.
I will update here if it does or not fit the Hatsan Jet.
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Mwahahahaha I cut my Jet handgrip in half to make it more packable and am drilling out a bunch of mass from the handle and shroud, next is to fix a mini telescoping pack fishing rod into the upper stock reciever mwaahahahahaha
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Also I did get the el cheapo Crosman .22 14+ inch barrel to try to fit into my jet .25. No go, the Crosman barrel is maybe 2 mm too small. I considered sleeving it, but its not a project I intended to follow thru with. Figured I would use that .22 barrel for something else one day, like a .177 pistol upgrade.I really want to go w the FX liner in .30 for my jet, they should be the same 12mm barrel OD.
If anyone has a .22 Jet and can give the barrel OD measurement please do. I'm unsure if its smaller than the .25, which I believe is 12mm.
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What is everyone using to carry their hatsan out and about? Slinging it?
any kind of holster available?
the packable post from modfox and another thread on cases has me thinking how I'm going to carry mine.
I'll probably be carrying this with my rifle. (not in the same case)
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Are there any barrels that can fit the Jet?
Barrels which do not require significant skills and tools (lathe, etc).
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Are there any barrels that can fit the Jet?
Barrels which do not require significant skills and tools (lathe, etc).
I'm aware of the Air Arms 12 inch made by LWalther being fit by FowlerAirguns on his youtube channel. He doesn't show the detail much but he did it. I think these FX barrels will do the trick just need to get one
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For a trek..
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Down to like 2lbs so far I think.
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Are there any barrels that can fit the Jet?
Barrels which do not require significant skills and tools (lathe, etc).
Not sure if Fowler used a lathe or not, but I was planning to use a cheap corded electric drill and a bench mount as a lathe.
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Down to like 2lbs so far I think.
Are you also bringing a hand pump or a small bottle?
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Yes. That's basically what I'm thinking. Then I can lose the shoud can get a slip on moderator adapter too. Instead of the hokie adapter that threads onto the shroud.
I am getting a drop block for the Notos.
It does not have the regulator, but takes a regulated bottle.
I will update here if it does or not fit the Hatsan Jet.
Does anyone know the ID of the Jet 1 air cylinder, off hand? It could probably be modified to accept a QB type drop block as well.
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Down to like 2lbs so far I think.
Are you also bringing a hand pump or a small bottle?
I'm taking two charged single Jet1 tubes and will drop in on diving shops for refills or find locals w a pump.
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Does anyone know the ID of the Jet 1 air cylinder, off hand? It could probably be modified to accept a QB type drop block as well.
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Hope this helps some
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Ok. The saga continues. I've reached out to a local Texas guy who makes drop block for several other airguns to see if he'd make one for the jet 1. He said he could but I'd have to send him the valve block so he can make sure the drop block is timed correctly. I'm not at that point yet as my current setup seems to be working.
What I don't understand is the relationship between the three gauges. I fill my 3k bottle to 3k, the asa gauge reads 2400 psi and the gauge on the gun is at 120 bar roughly. What is weird is the reg was set at 1800 psi. I tested it using the same asa that I installed on the pistol. Why now, that it is on the gun does the reg pressure read higher??? And it seems the reg pressure seems to drop in relation to the pressure in the bottle?
It seems that the gauge on the gun is close to the reg volume but the gauge on the asa is way off
I'm going to take it all apart and retest the reg pressure to see if it is the same as it was when I first checked it. Other than that I'm confused. The asa and reg are your basic ali Express setups so it's nothing fancy like a Ninja.
Shouldn't the asa gauge remain where the reg pressure is set? At least until I fall below that value in the bottle.
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Yes. That's basically what I'm thinking. Then I can lose the shoud can get a slip on moderator adapter too. Instead of the hokie adapter that threads onto the shroud.
I am getting a drop block for the Notos.
It does not have the regulator, but takes a regulated bottle.
I will update here if it does or not fit the Hatsan Jet.
I bought a z valve/drop block from Aliexpress for the Notos: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805841540727.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.4.627b1802WHzqTV&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa
The drop block valve is too tick and will not fit in the Hatsan Jet.
When installed on the Notos the valve is removed and only the threads are used.
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Thanks for the update. I still may end up with a Notos too. Now that they are able to accept a bottle. I really enjoy the high shot counts.
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Do any of you have any upgraded firing pin solutions?
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Do any of you have any upgraded firing pin solutions?
I have only heard of a few times they failed, all seem to be related to shooting them out of air to degas, there may have been a few that were out of spec to boot. It happened to me and a couple others here that I know of. Best to degas from the fill probe or gauge etc.
some tear down info and pics. https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=204810.120
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Ok. Thanks James. I won't worry about it then. If it happens then I'll address it.
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For the Jet 2 there is a degassing screw under the lower air tube.
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With my .177 Jet 2 I have managed to get 6 magazines (48 shots) with 7.5-8 grain pellets in the 740-780 FPS range from 250 bar to 130 bar.
These are the mods:
-removed the 2 hammer spring preload washers
-added 1 M3 nut as preload to the valve spring
-placed 1 washer on the valve stem where the valve spring sits
This washer will restrict the air flowing into the barrel, and also acts as valve spring preload.
Initially the washer was restricting most air and got velocities in the 400 FPS range.
I ground the washer outer diameter a little to allow more air to pass.
I'm going to have to attempt this, I think. Right now my shot string for 8.18gr (.177) is abysmal. The first 5 shots I can get a 1" grouping at 15 yards, and then it drops off. It's like they put the 0.22 or 0.25 setup on the 0.177. Below is my shot string
811
798
802
795
788
781
767
753
744
736
724
710
689
680
676
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With my .177 Jet 2 I have managed to get 6 magazines (48 shots) with 7.5-8 grain pellets in the 740-780 FPS range from 250 bar to 130 bar.
These are the mods:
-removed the 2 hammer spring preload washers
-added 1 M3 nut as preload to the valve spring
-placed 1 washer on the valve stem where the valve spring sits
This washer will restrict the air flowing into the barrel, and also acts as valve spring preload.
Initially the washer was restricting most air and got velocities in the 400 FPS range.
I ground the washer outer diameter a little to allow more air to pass.
I'm going to have to attempt this, I think. Right now my shot string for 8.18gr (.177) is abysmal. The first 5 shots I can get a 1" grouping at 15 yards, and then it drops off. It's like they put the 0.22 or 0.25 setup on the 0.177. Below is my shot string
811
798
802
795
788
781
767
753
744
736
724
710
689
680
676
I am the one with the mods you mentioned.
I have just chronied a shot string with my .177 Jet 2.
I used the 7.5 grains .177 Daisy Round Nose pellets: https://www.daisy.com/product/winchester-177-caliber-round-nose-pellets-500-count/
I got 6 magazines 735FPS to 775 FPS, and 2-3 extra shots in the same range.
Hatsan Jet is really easy to disassemble, reassemble and mod.
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My last chrony results, 250b to 100b shot count.
Notes
Bullet : 7.9 gr Crosman
Shot count: 49
Low: 661
Hi: 861
Avg: 765
STD Dev: 61
Spread: 200
2024-03-02 17:53:28,861,FPS,262,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:54:03,856,FPS,261,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:54:17,856,FPS,261,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:54:27,842,FPS,257,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:54:36,851,FPS,260,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:54:47,835,FPS,255,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:54:59,844,FPS,257,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:55:09,849,FPS,259,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:55:18,828,FPS,252,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:55:28,814,FPS,248,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:55:37,828,FPS,252,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:55:45,821,FPS,250,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:55:52,814,FPS,248,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:56:36,814,FPS,248,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:56:55,812,FPS,248,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:57:10,812,FPS,248,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:58:09,814,FPS,248,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:58:28,814,FPS,248,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:58:35,805,FPS,245,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:58:51,796,FPS,243,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:59:17,784,FPS,239,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:59:28,789,FPS,240,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:59:35,777,FPS,237,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:59:43,770,FPS,235,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:59:51,765,FPS,233,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:00:02,752,FPS,229,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:00:13,761,FPS,232,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:00:44,745,FPS,227,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:01:07,742,FPS,226,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:01:18,742,FPS,226,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:01:25,738,FPS,225,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:01:32,733,FPS,223,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:01:42,728,FPS,222,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:01:50,724,FPS,221,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:02:00,710,FPS,216,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:05:23,710,FPS,216,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:05:28,721,FPS,220,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:05:34,701,FPS,214,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:05:39,705,FPS,215,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:05:49,698,FPS,213,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:05:55,694,FPS,211,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:06:03,691,FPS,211,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:06:26,689,FPS,210,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:06:34,684,FPS,209,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:06:39,677,FPS,206,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:06:44,677,FPS,206,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:07:11,668,FPS,204,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:07:33,661,FPS,202,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:07:41,670,FPS,204,M/S,
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My last chrony results, 250b to 100b shot count.
Notes
Bullet : 7.9 gr Crosman
Shot count: 49
Low: 661
Hi: 861
Avg: 765
STD Dev: 61
Spread: 200
2024-03-02 17:53:28,861,FPS,262,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:54:03,856,FPS,261,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:54:17,856,FPS,261,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:54:27,842,FPS,257,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:54:36,851,FPS,260,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:54:47,835,FPS,255,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:54:59,844,FPS,257,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:55:09,849,FPS,259,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:55:18,828,FPS,252,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:55:28,814,FPS,248,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:55:37,828,FPS,252,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:55:45,821,FPS,250,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:55:52,814,FPS,248,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:56:36,814,FPS,248,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:56:55,812,FPS,248,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:57:10,812,FPS,248,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:58:09,814,FPS,248,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:58:28,814,FPS,248,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:58:35,805,FPS,245,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:58:51,796,FPS,243,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:59:17,784,FPS,239,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:59:28,789,FPS,240,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:59:35,777,FPS,237,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:59:43,770,FPS,235,M/S,
2024-03-02 17:59:51,765,FPS,233,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:00:02,752,FPS,229,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:00:13,761,FPS,232,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:00:44,745,FPS,227,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:01:07,742,FPS,226,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:01:18,742,FPS,226,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:01:25,738,FPS,225,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:01:32,733,FPS,223,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:01:42,728,FPS,222,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:01:50,724,FPS,221,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:02:00,710,FPS,216,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:05:23,710,FPS,216,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:05:28,721,FPS,220,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:05:34,701,FPS,214,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:05:39,705,FPS,215,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:05:49,698,FPS,213,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:05:55,694,FPS,211,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:06:03,691,FPS,211,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:06:26,689,FPS,210,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:06:34,684,FPS,209,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:06:39,677,FPS,206,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:06:44,677,FPS,206,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:07:11,668,FPS,204,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:07:33,661,FPS,202,M/S,
2024-03-02 18:07:41,670,FPS,204,M/S,
That shot string can definitely be improved.
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Can we expect another clearance sale from Midway?
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Can we expect another clearance sale from Midway?
Hatsan fire sale here. You are a few days late
https://www.fieldsupply.com/airguns/hatsan.html
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With my .177 Jet 2 I have managed to get 6 magazines (48 shots) with 7.5-8 grain pellets in the 740-780 FPS range from 250 bar to 130 bar.
These are the mods:
-removed the 2 hammer spring preload washers
-added 1 M3 nut as preload to the valve spring
-placed 1 washer on the valve stem where the valve spring sits
This washer will restrict the air flowing into the barrel, and also acts as valve spring preload.
Initially the washer was restricting most air and got velocities in the 400 FPS range.
I ground the washer outer diameter a little to allow more air to pass.
I am the one with the mods you mentioned.
I have just chronied a shot string with my .177 Jet 2.
I used the 7.5 grains .177 Daisy Round Nose pellets:
I got 6 magazines 735FPS to 775 FPS, and 2-3 extra shots in the same range.
Hatsan Jet is really easy to disassemble, reassemble and mod.
So, I finally got this disassembled. As you said, very easy. Probably took 10 minutes max.
The later models must be made differently. I have no hammer spring preload washers. I could cut back on the hammer spring but I'm reluctant to do that.
I'm going to try adding an M3 nut to the valve spring and see how that goes.
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You can compensate with a heavier preloaded valve spring.
Make sure that whatever preloads (M3 screws, etc) fit tightly in the spring guide hole.
The washer placed on the valve stem can definitely help, especially when used to restrict air flow.
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With 8.18gr pellets
Before : Added M3 nut: Added M3 nut + M4 washer: M4 Washer alone
811 : 789 : 600 : 594
798 : 790 : 603 : 598
802 : 780 : 612 : 599
795 : 776 : 614 : 610
788 : 770 : 622 : 625
781 : 764 : 625 : 621
767 : 761 : 619 : 610
753 : 741 : 616 : 620
Adding the washer made the most difference. I think maybe it is still getting settled.
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And, I'm happy to report that with cheap Crosman Premier Hollow Points (7.9gr), I'm getting 0.8" CTC at 14 yards. That's with a cheap red dot site where the dot is as big as the bullseye on the target.
Those Daisy pellets, well, they went from about 3" CTC to about 1.5" CTC. Better, but they don't fly well. Too much flashing, I'd imagine. They aren't clean like the Daisies from 40 years ago were.
Stoeger X-Match 8.18gr are about 1" CTC. About on par with the Crosman.
Thanks for this thread. The M4 washer mod definitely made my cheap pistol at least usable for plinking, which is why I bought it.
Quick Instructions for M4 washer mod on Jet 1:
- Remove screw holding auxiliary rail, and remove rail
- Loosen (to the point of almost removing) the two screws holding barrel in place
- Unscrew the air tank
- Remove the 4 screws holding the transfer tank / valve in place
- Slowly twist back and forth while pulling to remove transfer tank cover
- Remove spring
- Place M4 washer on valve rod
- Re-assemble in reverse order. I added silicon grease to the o-rings
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With 8.18gr pellets
Before : Added M3 nut: Added M3 nut + M4 washer: M4 Washer alone
811 : 789 : 600 : 594
798 : 790 : 603 : 598
802 : 780 : 612 : 599
795 : 776 : 614 : 610
788 : 770 : 622 : 625
781 : 764 : 625 : 621
767 : 761 : 619 : 610
753 : 741 : 616 : 620
Adding the washer made the most difference. I think maybe it is still getting settled.
The main job of the washer is to restrict the air flow.
The diameter of the washer helps you tune the speed.
The bigger the diameter (and tighter fit against valve tube) the more air is restricted and the lower the speed.
The smaller the diameter the higher the speed.
I ground the washer outer diameter with a Dremel until i got to the speed and shot count I wanted.
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Just got back from my first leg of a trek. Started at the Mexican border and went north. Within an hour or so my partner for the day pointed out the fattest rabbit I have ever seen. No more than 15 yards away, perfect shot, but I left my modded ultralight Jet1 at home because this was just a prelim test trek for some other gear, etc. Facepalm. Its VERY hard to do long trekkeing without wanting to drop every extra ounce you can, let alone the 2+ lbs of a gun. I'm no newb to treks and difficulties in the mountains, and had my gear down to sub-20lb. Thats considered to be exceptionally light, but feels like an elephant on your back when on an incline. My point is, I could not help but gain an incredible respect for all infantry, of all nations, who were ever tasked with carrying a rifle, pistol, ammo, and everything else one needs to survive. I mean, I was wearing clothes as thin as pantyhose, not 10+lb of military garb. For all of the badassery that long distance trekkers associate themselves with, often approaching what I call high-holiness, they will never compare to an infantry with field experience.
Its not Veterans Day but to me it is. Much respect.
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Can someone measure the rail distance between the magazine well and the rear sight, please?
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The washer diameter should be between .328 - .336 The valve return spring should be stiff enough that you almost can't press the valve stem in with your thumb, or almost can't squeeze the valve halves back together. Do this and you can shoot a flat string.
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I have just used the washer (usually an M4 washer) around the valve stem method on a Hatsan Invader.
Stock I got 36 shots (3 magazines) 905-940 FPS with CPHP .22 cal.
After adding the M4 washer I am getting 60 shots (5 magazines) 820-860 FPS with CPHP.
The washer around the valve stem method can be used on any Hatsan air gun which has the air tube and valve attached together.
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I have just used the washer (usually an M4 washer) around the valve stem method on a Hatsan Invader.
Stock I got 36 shots (3 magazines) 905-940 FPS with CPHP .22 cal.
After adding the M4 washer I am getting 60 shots (5 magazines) 820-860 FPS with CPHP.
The washer around the valve stem method can be used on any Hatsan air gun which has the air tube and valve attached together.
Sorry if I missed it, when you lower the fps 10% with the exact same shot deviation of 40 fps, youre only doing this for more shots at the range? It's a nice mod but I'm not ok with reducing power, personally, as the .25 Jet is already down there into the 600fps range. I'm focused on replacing the cylinder with a larger tube, when I find time. If it takes me 5 clips to get a rabbit I'm a f-up and shooting with a different fps than I would use hunting seems counterproductive so I prolly won't do that particular mod myself.
Lol it dawns on me that we will mod anything in any direction just playing around. Were there a gun that could shoot 60 shots in that 800fps range, with that washer installed in the factory, I might be the guy to say "Hey, if you were to play with that washer you would get 10% higher fps with a lower shot count, how great is that?" Lols. Not trying to say its not a good mod or diss naptemp. It is a good tradeoff, giving 10% velocity for 50% shotcount increase. The difference in power would almost be unnoticable at that speed I would think.
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250b shot down to 100b.
Airgun High Power, 7.9 hp
Shot count: 62
Low: 643 FPS
Hi: 844 FPS
Avg: 775 FPS
Spread: 201 FPS
STD Dev: 59.4 FPS
16-Mar-2024 17:22:43,819,FPS,26.8,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:22:55,828,FPS,27.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:23:03,826,FPS,27.3,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:23:12,823,FPS,27.1,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:23:29,842,FPS,28.3,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:23:37,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:23:44,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:24:32,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:26:20,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:26:27,844,FPS,28.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:26:50,844,FPS,28.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:27:08,833,FPS,27.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:27:21,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:27:30,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:27:45,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:27:58,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:29:52,840,FPS,28.2,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:30:03,828,FPS,27.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:30:14,826,FPS,27.3,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:30:27,833,FPS,27.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:30:58,814,FPS,26.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:31:12,817,FPS,26.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:31:49,828,FPS,27.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:32:00,814,FPS,26.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:33:38,823,FPS,27.1,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:33:48,803,FPS,25.8,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:34:13,812,FPS,26.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:34:25,800,FPS,25.6,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:34:42,805,FPS,25.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:34:59,798,FPS,25.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:35:25,798,FPS,25.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:35:34,789,FPS,24.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:37:07,786,FPS,24.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:37:21,782,FPS,24.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:37:35,777,FPS,24.1,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:37:47,770,FPS,23.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:38:03,770,FPS,23.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:38:10,768,FPS,23.6,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:38:21,765,FPS,23.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:38:30,763,FPS,23.3,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:40:14,756,FPS,22.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:40:22,747,FPS,22.3,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:40:30,745,FPS,22.2,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:40:37,742,FPS,22.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:40:46,733,FPS,21.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:40:53,735,FPS,21.6,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:41:00,724,FPS,20.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:45:32,721,FPS,20.8,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:46:54,719,FPS,20.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:47:01,712,FPS,20.3,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:47:07,707,FPS,20.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:47:24,696,FPS,19.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:47:45,698,FPS,19.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:47:55,689,FPS,19.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:49:18,687,FPS,18.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:49:24,687,FPS,18.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:49:29,673,FPS,18.1,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:49:36,673,FPS,18.1,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:49:44,666,FPS,17.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:50:02,659,FPS,17.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:50:16,668,FPS,17.8,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:50:41,643,FPS,16.5,FT Lbs,
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250b shot down to 100b.
Airgun High Power, 7.9 hp
Shot count: 62
Low: 643 FPS
Hi: 844 FPS
Avg: 775 FPS
Spread: 201 FPS
STD Dev: 59.4 FPS
16-Mar-2024 17:22:43,819,FPS,26.8,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:22:55,828,FPS,27.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:23:03,826,FPS,27.3,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:23:12,823,FPS,27.1,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:23:29,842,FPS,28.3,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:23:37,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:23:44,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:24:32,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:26:20,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:26:27,844,FPS,28.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:26:50,844,FPS,28.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:27:08,833,FPS,27.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:27:21,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:27:30,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:27:45,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:27:58,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:29:52,840,FPS,28.2,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:30:03,828,FPS,27.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:30:14,826,FPS,27.3,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:30:27,833,FPS,27.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:30:58,814,FPS,26.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:31:12,817,FPS,26.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:31:49,828,FPS,27.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:32:00,814,FPS,26.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:33:38,823,FPS,27.1,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:33:48,803,FPS,25.8,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:34:13,812,FPS,26.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:34:25,800,FPS,25.6,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:34:42,805,FPS,25.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:34:59,798,FPS,25.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:35:25,798,FPS,25.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:35:34,789,FPS,24.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:37:07,786,FPS,24.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:37:21,782,FPS,24.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:37:35,777,FPS,24.1,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:37:47,770,FPS,23.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:38:03,770,FPS,23.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:38:10,768,FPS,23.6,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:38:21,765,FPS,23.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:38:30,763,FPS,23.3,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:40:14,756,FPS,22.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:40:22,747,FPS,22.3,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:40:30,745,FPS,22.2,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:40:37,742,FPS,22.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:40:46,733,FPS,21.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:40:53,735,FPS,21.6,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:41:00,724,FPS,20.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:45:32,721,FPS,20.8,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:46:54,719,FPS,20.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:47:01,712,FPS,20.3,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:47:07,707,FPS,20.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:47:24,696,FPS,19.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:47:45,698,FPS,19.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:47:55,689,FPS,19.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:49:18,687,FPS,18.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:49:24,687,FPS,18.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:49:29,673,FPS,18.1,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:49:36,673,FPS,18.1,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:49:44,666,FPS,17.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:50:02,659,FPS,17.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:50:16,668,FPS,17.8,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:50:41,643,FPS,16.5,FT Lbs,
Try adding a washer on the valve stem.
I think I added an M4 washer.
With the washer on the valve stem I am getting 6 magazines (48 shots) from 250-260 bar to 130-140 bar.
The velocity is in the 735 -770 FPS range with Daisy 7.5 grain pellets.
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Thanks naptemp. I went form 6 usable shots with my jet 1 .22 to 21 shots with that washer mod.
full m4 washer was 337 fps. used a dremel and some sandpaper and took of 50mm off the washer
shot string after
Shot No. Velocity (fps) Energy (fpe) Energy (fpe) Energy (fpe)
0 643 13.1 13.1 13.1
1 639 13.0 13.0 13.0
2 644 13.2 13.2 13.2
3 650 13.4 13.4 13.4
4 644 13.2 13.2 13.2
5 648 13.3 13.3 13.3
6 642 13.1 13.1 13.1
7 638 12.9 12.9 12.9
8 639 13.0 13.0 13.0
9 643 13.1 13.1 13.1
10 645 13.2 13.2 13.2
11 647 13.3 13.3 13.3
12 646 13.3 13.3 13.3
13 638 12.9 12.9 12.9
14 636 12.8 12.8 #N/A
15 628 12.5 12.5 #N/A
16 623 12.3 #N/A #N/A
17 616 12.1 #N/A #N/A
18 610 11.8 #N/A #N/A
19 600 11.4 #N/A #N/A
20 591 11.1 #N/A #N/A
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250b shot down to 100b.
Airgun High Power, 7.9 hp
Shot count: 62
Low: 643 FPS
Hi: 844 FPS
Avg: 775 FPS
Spread: 201 FPS
STD Dev: 59.4 FPS
16-Mar-2024 17:22:43,819,FPS,26.8,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:22:55,828,FPS,27.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:23:03,826,FPS,27.3,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:23:12,823,FPS,27.1,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:23:29,842,FPS,28.3,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:23:37,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:23:44,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:24:32,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:26:20,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:26:27,844,FPS,28.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:26:50,844,FPS,28.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:27:08,833,FPS,27.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:27:21,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:27:30,835,FPS,27.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:27:45,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:27:58,837,FPS,28.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:29:52,840,FPS,28.2,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:30:03,828,FPS,27.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:30:14,826,FPS,27.3,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:30:27,833,FPS,27.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:30:58,814,FPS,26.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:31:12,817,FPS,26.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:31:49,828,FPS,27.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:32:00,814,FPS,26.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:33:38,823,FPS,27.1,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:33:48,803,FPS,25.8,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:34:13,812,FPS,26.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:34:25,800,FPS,25.6,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:34:42,805,FPS,25.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:34:59,798,FPS,25.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:35:25,798,FPS,25.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:35:34,789,FPS,24.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:37:07,786,FPS,24.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:37:21,782,FPS,24.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:37:35,777,FPS,24.1,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:37:47,770,FPS,23.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:38:03,770,FPS,23.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:38:10,768,FPS,23.6,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:38:21,765,FPS,23.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:38:30,763,FPS,23.3,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:40:14,756,FPS,22.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:40:22,747,FPS,22.3,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:40:30,745,FPS,22.2,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:40:37,742,FPS,22.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:40:46,733,FPS,21.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:40:53,735,FPS,21.6,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:41:00,724,FPS,20.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:45:32,721,FPS,20.8,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:46:54,719,FPS,20.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:47:01,712,FPS,20.3,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:47:07,707,FPS,20.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:47:24,696,FPS,19.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:47:45,698,FPS,19.5,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:47:55,689,FPS,19.0,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:49:18,687,FPS,18.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:49:24,687,FPS,18.9,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:49:29,673,FPS,18.1,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:49:36,673,FPS,18.1,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:49:44,666,FPS,17.7,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:50:02,659,FPS,17.4,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:50:16,668,FPS,17.8,FT Lbs,
16-Mar-2024 17:50:41,643,FPS,16.5,FT Lbs,
Try adding a washer on the valve stem.
I think I added an M4 washer.
With the washer on the valve stem I am getting 6 magazines (48 shots) from 250-260 bar to 130-140 bar.
The velocity is in the 735 -770 FPS range with Daisy 7.5 grain pellets.
No thanks I’m good with 62 kill shots!
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Those .177 magazines are way too expensive for what you get. I've re-created the 8 shot in CAD. I think I'll 3D print it and test it out. I need to find a source for the spring.
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=204810.0;attach=455814;image)
I'm thinking about increasing the shot count to 14 and doing this in aluminum.
Yeah, I know, the roto-index magazines sort of fit, but I want one that fits.
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No thanks I’m good with 62 kill shots!
The problem that I found is that even though you get a ton of shots, because the FPS changes so much, none of them are accurate. I now get a ton of shots, but the spread is about 20 instead of 200.
Now I get a bullseye almost every time at 20 yards, from shot 1 to shot 60. OK, there are a few fliers here and there, maybe 1 out of 15, but I blame that more on the cheap pellets I'm using. Amazon has the Winchester 0.177 for $4.68 for 500 count.
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The 33 grain Apolo Domed at 570 fps out of Jet 1 PCP. Accuracy wise at 20 yards is giving my tried and true 30 grain HN Barracudas a run for their money. I tried the 33 grain Apolo slugs and they were not accurate at all.
The domes may be my new favorites.
Jet1 botttled and regged at 2800 psi
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I think I screwed up by trying to start a new thread asking for help replacing a broken firing pin in my Hatsan Jet 2 .25 cal pistol. I've done a lot more homework since posting that the other day, and am confident I can get the pistol apart and replace the broken 2312 firing valve pin (or Poppet as I've heard others describe this part in this thread...) in my gun. There's only one issue standing in my way... When the pin broke, it was with a 3000psi charge in the pistol. The only way I currently know to degas this design is to continuously fire the pistol until the air reservoir is empty, but I can't do that because the firing valve pin is broken.... What's the safest way to degas this beast so that I can safely remove the twin air reservoir assembly in order to replace the firing valve pin?
This is driving me nuts... lol
Charlie in CT
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Unscrew the cover from the gauge and slowly unscrew the gauge until the air starts to leak out. Let it go until it stops and then loosen the gauge some more. Continue this until the cylinder is empty.
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Unscrew the cover from the gauge and slowly unscrew the gauge until the air starts to leak out. Let it go until it stops and then loosen the gauge some more. Continue this until the cylinder is empty.
Thank you!
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The Jet 2 has a degassing screw under the bottom of the lower cylinder.
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I wondered about that screw, but wound up unscrewing the manometer to degas. There's nothing about that screw that I saw in the manual... Good to know for the next time as the 2312HP pin is underdesigned, so will fail again and again...
I had asked Kadden @ Hatsan USA for a procedure to replace the firing pin, but he said they can't provide one due to safety concerns. This makes no sense! They sell spare Jet 2 air reservoir assemblies with no directions at all from what I've read online. That makes no sense either... What is up with that?? Since the firing pin is located in that assembly, and it must be 100% depressurized before being removed, there's really no reason to not show how to replace a broken firing pin... Kadden is not the best customer service person I've ever dealt with either. Not helpful at all... No matter now... I know the procedure for replacing this part... My Jet 2 is working fine again. 🙂
Charlie in CT
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I wondered about that screw, but wound up unscrewing the manometer to degas. There's nothing about that screw that I saw in the manual... Good to know for the next time as the 2312HP pin is underdesigned, so will fail again and again...
I had asked Kadden @ Hatsan USA for a procedure to replace the firing pin, but he said they can't provide one due to safety concerns. This makes no sense! They sell spare Jet 2 air reservoir assemblies with no directions at all from what I've read online. That makes no sense either... What is up with that?? Since the firing pin is located in that assembly, and it must be 100% depressurized before being removed, there's really no reason to not show how to replace a broken firing pin... Kadden is not the best customer service person I've ever dealt with either. Not helpful at all... No matter now... I know the procedure for replacing this part... My Jet 2 is working fine again. 🙂
Charlie in CT
Kadden sent me the parts I needed so he is OK in my view.
I remember seeing instructions on how to replace the valve pin.
These are roughly the steps to follow.
1. Degas the air cylinder
2. On the bottom there are 2 hex screws. Remove them.
3. Under the hex screws (same hole) there are grub screws.
Loosen the grub screws.
4. Pull out the air cylinder.
5. Open the air cylinder to remove the valve.
The valve is part of the air cylinder, and attached with several screws.
6. Inside the valve is the valve pin you need to replace.
7. Do the same steps in reverse.
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I wondered about that screw, but wound up unscrewing the manometer to degas. There's nothing about that screw that I saw in the manual... Good to know for the next time as the 2312HP pin is underdesigned, so will fail again and again...
I had asked Kadden @ Hatsan USA for a procedure to replace the firing pin, but he said they can't provide one due to safety concerns. This makes no sense! They sell spare Jet 2 air reservoir assemblies with no directions at all from what I've read online. That makes no sense either... What is up with that?? Since the firing pin is located in that assembly, and it must be 100% depressurized before being removed, there's really no reason to not show how to replace a broken firing pin... Kadden is not the best customer service person I've ever dealt with either. Not helpful at all... No matter now... I know the procedure for replacing this part... My Jet 2 is working fine again. 🙂
Charlie in CT
Kadden sent me the parts I needed so he is OK in my view.
I remember seeing instructions on how to replace the valve pin.
These are roughly the steps to follow.
1. Degas the air cylinder
2. On the bottom there are 2 hex screws. Remove them.
3. Under the hex screws (same hole) there are grub screws.
Loosen the grub screws.
4. Pull out the air cylinder.
5. Open the air cylinder to remove the valve.
The valve is part of the air cylinder, and attached with several screws.
6. Inside the valve is the valve pin you need to replace.
7. Do the same steps in reverse.
Why wouldn't Kadden have given me these instructions? Weird...
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Has anyone taken apart the air cylinder on the Jet 1 and if so how did you remove the end that houses the valve.
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google, Hatsan air guns exploded view. Scroll down the list to the Jet.
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Has anyone taken apart the air cylinder on the Jet 1 and if so how did you remove the end that houses the valve.
I've done this with the Jet 2. With the Jet 1, I believe you'd want to start by unscrewing the air reservoir, which I believe can be done while still charged with air as its hot swappable... Next, from the bottom of the pistol there are 2 sets of screws locking the male plug portion of the air reservoir block in place in the receiver. One set holds the accessory rail on the bottom of the receiver while the other set holds the rear part of the trigger guard into the receiver. In both cases, there will be a top allen head screw and then underneath the allen screw there'll be a second allen set screw. Remove the top Allen head screws and then loosen the bottom allen set screws enough to slide out the air reservoir block. Remove the 4 allen head screws on the air reservoir side of the block. You'll be able to access the 2312 firing pin now to replace it.
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Has anyone taken apart the air cylinder on the Jet 1 and if so how did you remove the end that houses the valve.
I've done this with the Jet 2. With the Jet 1, I believe you'd want to start by unscrewing the air reservoir, which I believe can be done while still charged with air as its hot swappable... Next, from the bottom of the pistol there are 2 sets of screws locking the male plug portion of the air reservoir block in place in the receiver. One set holds the accessory rail on the bottom of the receiver while the other set holds the rear part of the trigger guard into the receiver. In both cases, there will be a top allen head screw and then underneath the allen screw there'll be a second allen set screw. Remove the top Allen head screws and then loosen the bottom allen set screws enough to slide out the air reservoir block. Remove the 4 allen head screws on the air reservoir side of the block. You'll be able to access the 2312 firing pin now to replace it.
Thanks information i needed.
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Jet2 pt1 chrony 250b to 578fps I started in high power and finished the last 16 shots in UK power setting. My yard gun is setup at 580 fps
13 fpe. So if
I ever figure out how to install reg I will lol.
Jet2 chrony pt1
Airgun High Power
Jet2
Crosman Accupell .177 7.9gr
Shot count: 77
Low: 603 FPS
Hi: 861 FPS
Avg: 756 FPS
Spread: 258 FPS
STD Dev: 79.8 FPS
18-May-2024 10:52:25,849,FPS,12.6,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:52:38,844,FPS,12.5,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:53:03,828,FPS,12.0,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:53:14,835,FPS,12.2,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:53:24,842,FPS,12.4,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:53:35,851,FPS,12.7,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:53:47,851,FPS,12.7,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:54:01,849,FPS,12.6,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:54:13,858,FPS,12.9,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:54:34,861,FPS,13.0,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:54:45,842,FPS,12.4,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:54:56,854,FPS,12.8,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:55:04,849,FPS,12.6,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:55:14,844,FPS,12.5,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:57:08,837,FPS,12.3,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:57:18,842,FPS,12.4,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:57:28,840,FPS,12.4,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:57:37,847,FPS,12.6,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:57:50,842,FPS,12.4,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:57:59,840,FPS,12.4,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:58:09,840,FPS,12.4,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:58:19,837,FPS,12.3,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:58:28,830,FPS,12.1,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:58:38,823,FPS,11.9,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:58:48,821,FPS,11.8,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:58:59,812,FPS,11.6,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:59:10,817,FPS,11.7,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:59:20,817,FPS,11.7,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:01:16,796,FPS,11.1,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:01:25,812,FPS,11.6,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:01:35,805,FPS,11.4,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:01:45,798,FPS,11.2,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:01:58,800,FPS,11.2,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:02:07,786,FPS,10.9,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:02:16,786,FPS,10.9,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:02:24,786,FPS,10.9,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:02:41,779,FPS,10.7,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:02:50,775,FPS,10.5,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:03:00,772,FPS,10.5,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:03:11,765,FPS,10.3,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:03:20,761,FPS,10.2,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:03:28,761,FPS,10.2,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:05:48,745,FPS,9.7,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:05:56,752,FPS,9.9,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:06:12,745,FPS,9.7,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:06:29,738,FPS,9.5,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:06:38,733,FPS,9.4,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:06:51,721,FPS,9.1,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:07:05,724,FPS,9.2,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:07:15,726,FPS,9.3,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:07:26,719,FPS,9.1,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:07:42,726,FPS,9.3,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:07:55,712,FPS,8.9,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:08:08,710,FPS,8.8,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:08:24,707,FPS,8.8,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:08:36,694,FPS,8.4,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:10:46,696,FPS,8.5,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:10:56,684,FPS,8.2,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:11:05,682,FPS,8.2,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:11:15,677,FPS,8.1,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:11:38,673,FPS,7.9,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:11:49,668,FPS,7.8,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:12:02,659,FPS,7.6,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:12:17,663,FPS,7.7,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:12:31,663,FPS,7.7,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:12:45,647,FPS,7.4,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:12:54,647,FPS,7.4,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:13:04,649,FPS,7.4,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:13:17,631,FPS,7.0,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:13:24,640,FPS,7.2,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:15:56,638,FPS,7.1,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:16:06,617,FPS,6.7,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:16:15,622,FPS,6.8,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:16:27,619,FPS,6.7,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:16:42,619,FPS,6.7,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:16:54,608,FPS,6.5,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:17:06,603,FPS,6.4,FT Lbs,
Pt2
Airgun UK
Crosman Accupell .177 7.9gr
Shot count: 16
Low: 571 FPS
Hi: 598 FPS
Avg: 583 FPS
Spread: 27 FPS
STD Dev: 7.8 FPS
18-May-2024 10:19:18,582,FPS,5.9,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:19:33,571,FPS,5.7,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:19:41,580,FPS,5.9,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:19:50,575,FPS,5.8,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:19:58,580,FPS,5.9,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:20:07,573,FPS,5.8,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:20:33,585,FPS,6.0,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:20:41,575,FPS,5.8,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:20:53,587,FPS,6.0,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:20:59,585,FPS,6.0,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:21:06,592,FPS,6.1,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 10:21:18,578,FPS,5.9,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:18:45,598,FPS,6.3,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:18:58,592,FPS,6.1,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:19:12,594,FPS,6.2,FT Lbs,
18-May-2024 11:19:26,578,FPS,5.9,FT Lbs,
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Just a quick note for the Jet 1 owners, check out the Buck Rail website! Terry has some new goodies to make your Jet 1 into a pump gun. It looks pretty good!
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I didn't see anything for a Jet?
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I see it on their Blog :) https://buck-rail.com/blog/
https://youtu.be/ka9aSAl5cMQ
I wonder if it will fit between my bottle and the tube ???
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-050224083139.jpeg)
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The e-mail I received said it will probably be listed on their website this week.
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I think that is going to sell a lot of JET 1 PISTOLS, until they come out with one for the JET 2.
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I wondered if it'd fit on my bottle conversion too. Looks cool but I wouldn't trade my bottle conversion for it.
Otherwise, very cool work from Terry.
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I see it on their Blog :) https://buck-rail.com/blog/
https://youtu.be/ka9aSAl5cMQ
I wonder if it will fit between my bottle and the tube ???
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-050224083139.jpeg)
Drop him a line!
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I see it on their Blog :) https://buck-rail.com/blog/
https://youtu.be/ka9aSAl5cMQ
I wonder if it will fit between my bottle and the tube ???
(https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/gallery/17377-050224083139.jpeg)
Drop him a line!
I would have to loose the bottle clamp, and wound need a lever off the left side. Not sure if it would track or wear well like that ???
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What's the best fix for the misaligned shroud near the muzzle issue?
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Misaligned shroud. The jet barrel is a smaller diameter then the ID. of the shroud, you could put some heat shrink tubing around the front 1/2" of the barrel to align the barrel to the shroud. HTH.
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Are we talking about the suppressor adapter not lining up ???
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Yes, you can see the shroud offset from the barrel center. The gun is accurate w/o a moderator. After I put a .25 can on the muzzle, it'll shotgun at 10 yards. I may try the heat shrink idea when the gun comes back from Hatsan.
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I had to fiddle with mine, IIR I also readjusted the barrel to help. From what I have heard Airgun Capitol has an adapter that lines up right. https://airguncapital.com/products/hatsan-jet-1-2-adapter-suppressor-bundle
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I've got a Donnyfl adapter. I'm waiting for Buckrail to make more of their new modular LDC. I want to try one in .30 since this Jet is .25 caliber.
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So after reading through the whole thread, it looks like magazines for the Hatsan Sortie, Bullmaster, Barrage, Proxima, Vectis, Hydra, Flash and Flashpup will work as well as the FX Streamline. I am a big fan of the CARM magazines and the similar ones from Maple Products but neither make magazines for any of these guns. Has anyone found any others that fit and have not mentioned them?
Also I would appreciate any suggestions for low profile sub $50 red dots that have small dots. I have the Jet II in .22 but just not finding any dot sights that I like so far.
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So after reading through the whole thread, it looks like magazines for the Hatsan Sortie, Bullmaster, Barrage, Proxima, Vectis, Hydra, Flash and Flashpup will work as well as the FX Streamline. I am a big fan of the CARM magazines and the similar ones from Maple Products but neither make magazines for any of these guns. Has anyone found any others that fit and have not mentioned them?
Also I would appreciate any suggestions for low profile sub $50 red dots that have small dots. I have the Jet II in .22 but just not finding any dot sights that I like so far.
https://orioniguanahunter.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoq3sqSKZmsrsyjE8eK8V03JatMVMm5SscTfU5Yk2tiRAGlTeVuS
Orion IIR makes a 3D FX mag that may work.
This Prism scope may work better for you than a red dot unless shooting in standing pistol position.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/274856220078
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So after reading through the whole thread, it looks like magazines for the Hatsan Sortie, Bullmaster, Barrage, Proxima, Vectis, Hydra, Flash and Flashpup will work as well as the FX Streamline. I am a big fan of the CARM magazines and the similar ones from Maple Products but neither make magazines for any of these guns. Has anyone found any others that fit and have not mentioned them?
Also I would appreciate any suggestions for low profile sub $50 red dots that have small dots. I have the Jet II in .22 but just not finding any dot sights that I like so far.
I designed a new magazine with 14 shots that fits the Jet. It would be an all-metal design, with optional clear plastic lens on top. I did a sample 3D print to verify it works, and it seems to fit fine, but I didn't put a spring in it yet.
I stopped work when the Sortie mag dropped back down to $20 on Amazon. I can't make it for less than $20, and the Sortie works great.
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Guess I have joined the Jet set. Was looking for a light PCP pistol for light pesting with the Orange day coupon I picked up a Jet 1 .25 for $188.00 to my door. This has been a very interesting thread & I picked up a lot of good information. Now it’s sit & wait for the UPS truck to drive up.
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The JET SET is waiting for your questions. I have the JET 2 .22 CAL., and have been thru some of the problems some of them come with , but now I'm a happy shooter with all of that fixed. ;D
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I have the Jet II. Enjoy shooting it. Found that with two air tubes it is difficult to use just as a pistol. Usually have the rifle stock on when on my range. Not crazy about the iron sites as they don't seem to alwaysraise up in the same spot every time. Lazer works great. Fun gun to shoot. Easy to charge with a hand pump. Have fun when it arrives.
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Has anyone done a 3d pr foregrip for the jet 2? My wife has one and wants to add some color to it without buying a new tank. Thanks