FWB Sport EARLY OUT OF THE BOX Impressions / Champions Choice Shout Out

[Keen]

My R9 dotes on H&N FTTs

This morning, in very challenging conditions (7 degrees F, and  prob 4 mph breeze) I managed a 5 shot quarter sized group at 25 yards, which is a MAJOR improvement over yesterday. The TWANG has diminished a bit, but certainly not gone.

My vision is like used kitty litter so I'm going to have to scope the gun sooner or later.

Any success with scope rings out there?

[Keen]

....with JSB Diablo Exacts

[Keen]

....through the FWB.

[Oldgringo]

My BKL mounts arrived from PA yesterday.  My remaining 3-9 NIKON EFR is ready, and tomorrow, I'll mount the scope and fire for effect with various pellets, IF our two day fog disperses and I can see the targets. 

We've lived her some 27 years and I don't recall ever seeing fog like this in the Piney Woods of Texas.

[Keen]

My BKL mounts arrived from PA yesterday.  My remaining 3-9 NIKON EFR is ready, and tomorrow, I'll mount the scope and fire for effect with various pellets, IF our two day fog disperses and I can see the targets. 

We've lived her some 27 years and I don't recall ever seeing fog like this in the Piney Woods of Texas.

Which BKL mounts did you buy?

[Oldgringo]

My BKL mounts arrived from PA yesterday.  My remaining 3-9 NIKON EFR is ready, and tomorrow, I'll mount the scope and fire for effect with various pellets, IF our two day fog disperses and I can see the targets. 

We've lived her some 27 years and I don't recall ever seeing fog like this in the Piney Woods of Texas.

Which BKL mounts did you buy?

BKL-263H MB recommended by Tom Gaylord of PA.  I've got 'em on the gun and they do see over the OEM sights.  If the fog lifts, I'll sight her in tomorrow.

[Oldgringo]

Well, the fog lifted and I shot some pellets with the scoped FWB Sport today.  She is sighted in at 30 yards and appears to like the 7.87 gr. AA Diabolo Express best of all.

A curious thing, she appears to need a warm up shot?  The first shot goes low and to the left.  The next four pretty much go into one ragged hole at the point of aim.  I'll have to work on this.  🤔

[MartyMcFly]

Well, the fog lifted and I shot some pellets with the scoped FWB Sport today.  She is sighted in at 30 yards and appears to like the 7.87 gr. AA Diabolo Express best of all.

A curious thing, she appears to need a warm up shot?  The first shot goes low and to the left.  The next four pretty much go into one ragged hole at the point of aim.  I'll have to work on this.  🤔

Is it possible that either the piston or spring have some play in them and that when you put her down the parts settle into certain positions that results in the first shot being off? After the first shot the parts might be jarred back into alignment. Just a guess..

-Marty

[tjk]

Mine is #0406, and honks like a goose!!!! Havent really gotten that warm fuzzy feeling with this new model. There are some highlights and some disappointments with this rifle and it will take some time and work to bring her “up to par” as far as my expectations go with this rifle and where we need to be. Sunday was the first day Ive had to stretch her out and after the first set, i declared I wouldnt waste another pellet until i got the new shop built where I could open it up. But later in the afternoon i picked it back up and made myself flush all the cheapo crosman pellets through it i had on hand. Then went to the old cuda coppers and things have settled down some. I did a “slot tune” earlier in the week so it did smooth out some. I see where Maccarri has a new seal for it but no spring yet. He may not think it worth the time and money to make a production run of springs. But thats just a hunch I have at this time,....for all we know, he may very well be developing a better spring for it. Who knows. I hope so. This rifle has alot of potencial, its just too bad that the factory kinda stumbled out of the gate with it. I will post My initial review in a separate post.

[Keen]

Missed this:

#12400398

  Also, if you open it up and need a seal, let me know.  I ordered one from JM in a "prepare for the worst" mindset, but it doesn't look like I'm gonna need it.

Thanks thompsje!

I would take the seal off your hands if you don't need it.

PM or email me with details.

[Oldgringo]

Thank you Keen.  Upon further review, my Sport also prefers the H&N 4.51 FTT.  I shot 11 pellets over the chrony today.  Nine of the eleven pellets went into a single ragged hole and the other two were a 1/4" away at 25 yards.  True velocity was 829 fps, fpe was ~13+ and SD was 12.15.

Color me tickled.

[Keen]

Thank you Keen.  Upon further review, my Sport also prefers the H&N 4.51 FTT.  I shot 11 pellets over the chrony today.  Nine of the eleven pellets went into a single ragged hole and the other two were a 1/4" away at 25 yards.  True velocity was 829 fps, fpe was ~13+ and SD was 12.15.

Color me tickled.

Lovely!

I can't wait to see results like that. Conditions here aren't conducive to shooting at the moment, with the snow and wind and all.

Hopefully in a day or two.

[Cslinger]

.  my Sport also prefers the H&N 4.51 FTT. 

Honestly mine is fairly pellet agnostic.  I haven’t found one it won’t shoot fairly well at 20 yards.

I had one of those tins that down to the end and needs to finished out so I just grabbed it and banged away in a simple load, sight, shoot, rinse repeat plinking type fashion.  No real fundamentals per say, no real lets shoot for the best group ever etc.  Just shooting for fun and to burn up the final shots out of a tin. 

Ammo is H&N FTT 4.50 and it just goes round after round after round into the same basic spot with little effort at all.  The group below is at least 30 shots probably a few more than that.  Probably between 30 and 50 whatever I needed to finish the tin and it is just boringly accurate.  Again I can say enough how my particular example shoots very much like a .22LR.  This might be the easiest to shoot air rifle I own and that includes the HW30s.  Now I am shooting indoors, with no environmental factors like wind or cold and what not so I have a handicap of course. 

Also in case anybody is interested I measured a max of 102.6db at the shooter using a free db meter app.  So nothing super scientific but a data point none the less. 



When we talk about stacking them in there........well it literally stacks them in there.    Just kept flattening the shot underneath again and again and again..................which is why I see a fair bit of spall in this well used, little cleaned trap. 

[Cslinger]

Above was scoped of course. Just FYI.

[tjk]

Very nice Cslinger. I had the same effect on one of my steel spinner targets offhand at around 25 yards. I had planned to keep mine scopeless but trying to find the best feel for the irons.

[Keen]

Cslinger

You have a great gun.

Those of us that are not quite as lucky will catch up.

[north country gal]

I loved shooting my Sport with the factory irons, but just had to scope it to see just how accurate it was. I then liked it with a scope too much to pull the scope off.

I solved that problem by ordering a second one, so I can go open sights or scope based on what I feel like shooting. Just got number two Sport, today, and will be testing it this week, soon as the wind dies down.

Oh, in case you think we're billionaires, we sold off about a dozen of our powder burners and will be selling some more. Been planning to do that for a long time, since our shooting is now almost exclusively air guns. Some of the money will be used to pay bills, some to savings, and some invested back into air guns, hence this next Sport.

Actually thought about expanding our PCP gear, but ... Naw! What can I say? I'm a springer addict.

[Oldgringo]

I loved shooting my Sport with the factory irons, but just had to scope it to see just how accurate it was. I then liked it with a scope too much to pull the scope off.

I solved that problem by ordering a second one, so I can go open sights or scope based on what I feel like shooting. Just got number two Sport, today, and will be testing it this week, soon as the wind dies down.

Oh, in case you think we're billionaires, we sold off about a dozen of our powder burners and will be selling some more. Been planning to do that for a long time, since our shooting is now almost exclusively air guns. Some of the money will be used to pay bills, some to savings, and some invested back into air guns, hence this next Sport.

Actually thought about expanding our PCP gear, but ... Naw! What can I say? I'm a springer addict.

I'll not be getting another Sport; but if I were to, I'd think about putting a Williams AP-FG peep sight on it.  Just sayin'....

[Oldgringo]

.  my Sport also prefers the H&N 4.51 FTT. 

Honestly mine is fairly pellet agnostic.  I haven’t found one it won’t shoot fairly well at 20 yards.

I had one of those tins that down to the end and needs to finished out so I just grabbed it and banged away in a simple load, sight, shoot, rinse repeat plinking type fashion.  No real fundamentals per say, no real lets shoot for the best group ever etc.  Just shooting for fun and to burn up the final shots out of a tin. 

Ammo is H&N FTT 4.50 and it just goes round after round after round into the same basic spot with little effort at all.  The group below is at least 30 shots probably a few more than that.  Probably between 30 and 50 whatever I needed to finish the tin and it is just boringly accurate.  Again I can say enough how my particular example shoots very much like a .22LR.  This might be the easiest to shoot air rifle I own and that includes the HW30s.  Now I am shooting indoors, with no environmental factors like wind or cold and what not so I have a handicap of course. 

Also in case anybody is interested I measured a max of 102.6db at the shooter using a free db meter app.  So nothing super scientific but a data point none the less. 



When we talk about stacking them in there........well it literally stacks them in there.    Just kept flattening the shot underneath again and again and again..................which is why I see a fair bit of spall in this well used, little cleaned trap. 

A photo and source of your pellet trap, if you please.  My pellets just scatter from the targets in the 30 yard, furthest corner of our backyard.  I reckon that may not be "Green Earth" friendly?

[thompsje]

.  my Sport also prefers the H&N 4.51 FTT. 

Honestly mine is fairly pellet agnostic.  I haven’t found one it won’t shoot fairly well at 20 yards.

I had one of those tins that down to the end and needs to finished out so I just grabbed it and banged away in a simple load, sight, shoot, rinse repeat plinking type fashion.  No real fundamentals per say, no real lets shoot for the best group ever etc.  Just shooting for fun and to burn up the final shots out of a tin. 

Ammo is H&N FTT 4.50 and it just goes round after round after round into the same basic spot with little effort at all.  The group below is at least 30 shots probably a few more than that.  Probably between 30 and 50 whatever I needed to finish the tin and it is just boringly accurate.  Again I can say enough how my particular example shoots very much like a .22LR.  This might be the easiest to shoot air rifle I own and that includes the HW30s.  Now I am shooting indoors, with no environmental factors like wind or cold and what not so I have a handicap of course. 

Also in case anybody is interested I measured a max of 102.6db at the shooter using a free db meter app.  So nothing super scientific but a data point none the less. 


When we talk about stacking them in there........well it literally stacks them in there.    Just kept flattening the shot underneath again and again and again..................which is why I see a fair bit of spall in this well used, little cleaned trap. 

Very nice!    Have you had to re-tighten or Loctite/Vibratite any screws yet?   I was shooting mine over lunch break on Monday (one work-from-home advantage) and after about a dozen shots things started to open up and go high left.   Checked the stock screws and got minimum of 3/4 turn out of all of them, and close to 1.5 turns out of the right side.

I have since applied Vibratite and snugged things up, but didn't had time to shoot after that.