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1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« on: December 03, 2018, 07:50:52 PM »
 Just wanting some opinions on 1000 yards under 2inch ctc group with an air rifle..... Should I try it or should I forget it ..... 
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Re: 1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2018, 08:15:12 PM »
1000 yds? That’s a very tall order.
A 2” group @ 200 yds is tough enough. But by all means give it your best effort. 😎
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Re: 1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2018, 08:46:29 PM »
Wow, I say definitely try.

What's your rifle/setup?  How many shots are you planning for your group?

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Re: 1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2018, 08:56:49 PM »
.308 Texan 3 shot group
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Re: 1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2018, 09:40:31 PM »
Brian, your desire the push the envelope is awesome.  :D

My airgunning so far has been happening in the basement of the gun power levels, so I'm not really up on anything happening beyond a couple hundred yards....

So, are there many shooters reaching 1000 yards – and hitting anything smaller than the broad side of a barn?
If you've got a few links to 1000 yard airgunners, I'll take your click bait...!!  ;D ;D


Your specific goal of 2" – with 3 shots – is indeed very specific.
Is there any record you'd like to break, a bet to win, or why 2" (and not 2MOA, or any other number)? Why 3 shots (which is by some not really considered a group quite yet)?

What pellet/slug are you planning on using? How much power does your gun have? (I'd love to run the numbers in ChairGun!)

Good luck, Brian, I think this is awesome. 
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Re: 1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2018, 09:48:20 PM »
the answers to your question still elude me at this time but I believe 128g boat tail hollowpoint running about 1300 fps
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Re: 1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2018, 09:50:33 PM »
What scope you using?
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Re: 1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2018, 09:54:18 PM »
Look up verybigrifle on youtube.
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Re: 1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2018, 10:45:54 PM »
im going to use either a vortex viper 6-24x50 or Athlon  this is a work in progress don't have it all locked down yet
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Re: 1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2018, 10:53:18 PM »
Hate to break it to ya, but that bullet will be tumbling by 250 yards. Back your velocity down to somewhere in the 1050 fps range and you will have better luck
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Re: 1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2018, 11:24:06 PM »
Just wanting some opinions on 1000 yards under 2inch ctc group with an air rifle..... Should I try it or should I forget it .....

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Re: 1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2018, 11:44:37 PM »
480 fpe in .308? Wow, How are you getting 1300 fps? 1000 yards is a huge endeavor. Definitely subscribed to this thread!  :D
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Re: 1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2018, 12:04:56 AM »
Definitely subscribed to this thread!

Yeah...
What else are we gonn'a do?!
With click bait like THAT?!?   ;D
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Re: 1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2018, 12:17:13 AM »
I'm sitting in a chair.
Having ChairGun, my ballistic calculator open.
I'm punching Brian's numbers in, 1300fps, 128gr, I'm guesstimating 0.15BC.
This is fun.
Ever wondered why the program is called ChairGun....?

I don't have a gun with 480FPE, mine has a 40th of that....
But I'm shooting his gun anyway. From the chair in my living room!
—> ChairGun!!
 
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Re: 1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2018, 12:24:23 AM »
Well, considering a 2" group at 1000 yards would be less than 0.2 MOA.... You would need to be consistently shooting aspirin size cloverleaf groups at 100 yards to have any kind of a chance, IMO.... Let's just say you are in for a challenge....  ::)

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Re: 1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2018, 02:43:49 AM »
Just wanting some opinions on 1000 yards under 2inch ctc group with an air rifle..... Should I try it or should I forget it .....

Never happen

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Don't want to be rude, but if you have done your homework, this is really a silly question.
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Re: 1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2018, 10:38:54 AM »
Well, considering a 2" group at 1000 yards would be less than 0.2 MOA.... You would need to be consistently shooting aspirin size cloverleaf groups at 100 yards to have any kind of a chance, IMO.... Let's just say you are in for a challenge....  ::)

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Truckr might not have understood enough to come to AncientSword's conclusion before asking, but it is just as well that he did ask, since Bob's answer puts some math to answering the question that might help others. Putting other factors like wind and spin drift aside for a moment, if your piece and ammo can't statistically hold to a certain angular deviation, that will be a hard and fast limit at whatever range.

Now just to be sure, the MOA calculation for those of us that are new at it is just the 2" divided by 1000 yards and moving the decimal point, correct? No trigonometry or unit conversions need be shown, as by a fortunate coincidence of geometry, one MOA is just a hair over 1" at 100 yards.

If it helps anybody, think of it as a percentage if you are working in inches and yards: 1/100 is 1 percent, or 1 MOA. And 2/1000, i.e. 2" at 1000 yards, is 0.2 percent, or 0.2 MOA.

If that doesn't gel for you, just use the ratio of 1" at 100 yards and do whatever works for you. For example here's a very short table: https://www.nssf.org/shooting/minute-angle-moa/
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Re: 1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2018, 10:46:45 AM »
You can't blame a man for dreaming big (and a little crazy)! It's not an airgun, but it can be done: https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/benchrest-shooter-1000-yard-group/.

I'll subscribe to learn something and watch the show.
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Re: 1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2018, 11:19:23 AM »
You can't blame a man for dreaming big (and a little crazy)! It's not an airgun, but it can be done: https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/benchrest-shooter-1000-yard-group/.

I'll subscribe to learn something and watch the show.

WOW!!!
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Re: 1000 yards 2 inch group or less
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2018, 11:35:11 AM »
Do it.  Ignore the naysayers.  Make it happen.

They will call it luck.

I would call it perseverance.
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