I've owned a couple very cheap optics and they were not successes. Others have probably been luckier than me but I'm not too willing to spend any of my remaining time worrying about or fiddling around with optics that might or might not have a wandering zero. Maybe, just an old guy getting lazier.
Quote from: buellm2 on June 24, 2023, 04:10:50 PMI've owned a couple very cheap optics and they were not successes. Others have probably been luckier than me but I'm not too willing to spend any of my remaining time worrying about or fiddling around with optics that might or might not have a wandering zero. Maybe, just an old guy getting lazier.Buying cheap optics is like throwing away your money.
Quote from: Rick67 on June 24, 2023, 04:33:18 PMQuote from: buellm2 on June 24, 2023, 04:10:50 PMI've owned a couple very cheap optics and they were not successes. Others have probably been luckier than me but I'm not too willing to spend any of my remaining time worrying about or fiddling around with optics that might or might not have a wandering zero. Maybe, just an old guy getting lazier.Buying cheap optics is like throwing away your money.Wise words and undoubtedly true.I however like to gamble recklessly on cheap optics! I consider Leapers, CenterPoint, and Winchester to be cheap optics but these are the brands which have held up best on my magnum springers. They aren't as clear as my Leupold scopes but I'd never mount anything that expensive on a springer. I have examples of all these brands that have stood up to thousands of shots through my Hatsan magnums and they are still going strong. If/when they die I'll slap another cheap one on and keep shooting. I can buy a half dozen of each for the same price as a premium scope and at my age I'll never run out.
Quote from: Hoosier Daddy on June 20, 2023, 07:25:38 PMListed my AA TX-200 and my Beeman R9 in the classifieds here. ScottThe 117cal TX-200 is in the classifieds (as want to sell)The 22cal R-9 is in the classifieds Archive (as want to sell)If you haven't sold it already...it won't sell there. Best Wishes - Tom
Listed my AA TX-200 and my Beeman R9 in the classifieds here.
Quote from: Blowpipe Sam on June 24, 2023, 04:53:47 PMQuote from: Rick67 on June 24, 2023, 04:33:18 PMQuote from: buellm2 on June 24, 2023, 04:10:50 PMI've owned a couple very cheap optics and they were not successes. Others have probably been luckier than me but I'm not too willing to spend any of my remaining time worrying about or fiddling around with optics that might or might not have a wandering zero. Maybe, just an old guy getting lazier.Buying cheap optics is like throwing away your money.Wise words and undoubtedly true.I however like to gamble recklessly on cheap optics! I consider Leapers, CenterPoint, and Winchester to be cheap optics but these are the brands which have held up best on my magnum springers. They aren't as clear as my Leupold scopes but I'd never mount anything that expensive on a springer. I have examples of all these brands that have stood up to thousands of shots through my Hatsan magnums and they are still going strong. If/when they die I'll slap another cheap one on and keep shooting. I can buy a half dozen of each for the same price as a premium scope and at my age I'll never run out. Leapers/UTG and Centerpoint scopes are OK, you could even use their warranty, although I’m not too sure about the latter, but brands like Pinty or the other funny sounding ones is where I draw the line.I have gotten rid of my Chinese scopes though, except for a red dot Vortex Sparc 2, which is on my of my airguns.It’s got fantastic warranty, Vortex does, so no worries there, but I do wish it wasn’t manufactured in the PRC. It was my very 1st optic in the US (more than 5 years ago and still looks fresh like a virgin), so I’m kinda sentimental about it 👍
Quote from: Rick67 on June 24, 2023, 06:47:19 PMQuote from: Blowpipe Sam on June 24, 2023, 04:53:47 PMQuote from: Rick67 on June 24, 2023, 04:33:18 PMQuote from: buellm2 on June 24, 2023, 04:10:50 PMI've owned a couple very cheap optics and they were not successes. Others have probably been luckier than me but I'm not too willing to spend any of my remaining time worrying about or fiddling around with optics that might or might not have a wandering zero. Maybe, just an old guy getting lazier.Buying cheap optics is like throwing away your money.Wise words and undoubtedly true.I however like to gamble recklessly on cheap optics! I consider Leapers, CenterPoint, and Winchester to be cheap optics but these are the brands which have held up best on my magnum springers. They aren't as clear as my Leupold scopes but I'd never mount anything that expensive on a springer. I have examples of all these brands that have stood up to thousands of shots through my Hatsan magnums and they are still going strong. If/when they die I'll slap another cheap one on and keep shooting. I can buy a half dozen of each for the same price as a premium scope and at my age I'll never run out. Leapers/UTG and Centerpoint scopes are OK, you could even use their warranty, although I’m not too sure about the latter, but brands like Pinty or the other funny sounding ones is where I draw the line.I have gotten rid of my Chinese scopes though, except for a red dot Vortex Sparc 2, which is on my of my airguns.It’s got fantastic warranty, Vortex does, so no worries there, but I do wish it wasn’t manufactured in the PRC. It was my very 1st optic in the US (more than 5 years ago and still looks fresh like a virgin), so I’m kinda sentimental about it 👍I really like this UTG 1-8x28 scope: https://www.ebay.com/itm/185901993369?hash=item2b489f4d99:g:o8QAAOSw9zhkZRuZ&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwIEwcIyvtyLwpFOF60Ixd3iVPGYgUxiYP%2B3GWHA%2BM9LajWQNaNzLzhdVrcvT8EVNpwf1FodBm9%2BeUxdB%2F5bIQH20DexgiPPtrUEd87U%2F4Xa71iEvnkJApz9Rsipj4MEt6iyVzE66rEuP%2B8TSHi6JcYyPSbjkI%2FvZgr4PK7R2fQzZsKrIVeD2tiK1Jxc2kJ4IdT6E6NQnN8EOSFdPBu7V7yRovrfl0BEFtFqY%2BIOt%2BoFGy%2B%2B4BWYXDYTnXWrf3ADFYg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR7jy8aeeYgBut I don't like the enlarged objective end, and wish it were straight walled like most other LPVO scopes. This might not work well with the super short receiver on my bottle Bandito. Plus it comes with a mount that I definitely can't use due to the magazine. With the AR stock I have to use taller optics mounts anyway, but maybe I can find a cantilever pic rail that will clear my magazine, and then I can just get really low scope rings.
If it's a straight tube like them LPVOs, I would not worry about parallax too much.I have tested mine so many times, a 1-4x20, with very favorable results.There's actually a somewhat affordable Athlon LPVO with a 10-yard to infinity parallax adjustment, but it's only a 1-4:https://athlonoptics.com/product/helos-btr-1-4-5x24-atsr3-sfp-ir-moa/They have excellent warranty like Vortex 👍
Playing the Scope shuffle game.The R10 is now going to wear the Hammers 3-9X40 Mil-dot, the CP 4-16X40 TAG went on the new PB, and I got a no name 3-9X40 left over.Crazy it has no brand markings anywhere... nice glass too, Just not an AO.