I just checked my Varmint bolt and it was loose so I put some red loctite on it, that stuff seems to work pretty good I think. Bill I remember you saying yours was loose and the last time I had checked mine it was tight but not when I checked it today. I rolled the handle on a table and it didn't look bent at all.
Quote from: :-) chickie on August 08, 2017, 11:23:03 PMQuote from: Nomadic Pirate on August 08, 2017, 11:08:26 PMQuote from: :-) chickie on August 08, 2017, 10:34:08 PMQuote from: Nomadic Pirate on August 08, 2017, 10:27:31 PMif the M-16 is around 500 bucks I wander how much the M-30 will be,...600, 650 ?It needs to be priced with a very deep discount over the European dealers, or I doubt sales will be brisk enough to sustain interest. Losta folks still think 'cheap' when it comes to Chinese guns. At $179, a SPA gun is amazing, at $600 or $650, it better be better than a Euro gun, for certain. Otherwise, why buy a Chinese gun for $650 when you coulda had something like an HW110 for a couple hundred more? The more the retail price, the less sense it makes for the buyer to buy a SPA gun. Unless they start winning shooting competitions, then they'll take off, even the expensive ones.Seems that the M-16 at 500 bucks is already poised to sell pretty good right ?I think so, I ordered a .25 today, I believe it will be a great gun for the money, but mostly because it has the power and light weight to outclass more expensive and less expensive options. If this M30 is $650, and doesn't do much more for the average buyer than a Varmint, or a regged Varmint, why pay $400 more just for that neat tube/barrel thingy? I keep trying to remember how excited I was when I realized I had bought 4 new SPA guns for a little over $500, and I loved them all..The Dominator better be that much better, and the M30, even that much more better, or the Varmints and CP-series guns will still steal their thunder..Keep the Dominator series all at or around $500-550, and they are attainable and worth the leap up from the Varmint/Plinkster/CP-series guns..Well, first of all if it's a semi-auto that alone will put the gun on a different plain then the basic SPA guns, also I would expect it to be more on the power level of the M-16 then the lower offerings, I can't imagine the M-30 to cost less then the M-16,....but now sure I'm curious to see how this turns out Yep I love the looks and idea of the gun
Quote from: Nomadic Pirate on August 08, 2017, 11:08:26 PMQuote from: :-) chickie on August 08, 2017, 10:34:08 PMQuote from: Nomadic Pirate on August 08, 2017, 10:27:31 PMif the M-16 is around 500 bucks I wander how much the M-30 will be,...600, 650 ?It needs to be priced with a very deep discount over the European dealers, or I doubt sales will be brisk enough to sustain interest. Losta folks still think 'cheap' when it comes to Chinese guns. At $179, a SPA gun is amazing, at $600 or $650, it better be better than a Euro gun, for certain. Otherwise, why buy a Chinese gun for $650 when you coulda had something like an HW110 for a couple hundred more? The more the retail price, the less sense it makes for the buyer to buy a SPA gun. Unless they start winning shooting competitions, then they'll take off, even the expensive ones.Seems that the M-16 at 500 bucks is already poised to sell pretty good right ?I think so, I ordered a .25 today, I believe it will be a great gun for the money, but mostly because it has the power and light weight to outclass more expensive and less expensive options. If this M30 is $650, and doesn't do much more for the average buyer than a Varmint, or a regged Varmint, why pay $400 more just for that neat tube/barrel thingy? I keep trying to remember how excited I was when I realized I had bought 4 new SPA guns for a little over $500, and I loved them all..The Dominator better be that much better, and the M30, even that much more better, or the Varmints and CP-series guns will still steal their thunder..Keep the Dominator series all at or around $500-550, and they are attainable and worth the leap up from the Varmint/Plinkster/CP-series guns..
Quote from: :-) chickie on August 08, 2017, 10:34:08 PMQuote from: Nomadic Pirate on August 08, 2017, 10:27:31 PMif the M-16 is around 500 bucks I wander how much the M-30 will be,...600, 650 ?It needs to be priced with a very deep discount over the European dealers, or I doubt sales will be brisk enough to sustain interest. Losta folks still think 'cheap' when it comes to Chinese guns. At $179, a SPA gun is amazing, at $600 or $650, it better be better than a Euro gun, for certain. Otherwise, why buy a Chinese gun for $650 when you coulda had something like an HW110 for a couple hundred more? The more the retail price, the less sense it makes for the buyer to buy a SPA gun. Unless they start winning shooting competitions, then they'll take off, even the expensive ones.Seems that the M-16 at 500 bucks is already poised to sell pretty good right ?
Quote from: Nomadic Pirate on August 08, 2017, 10:27:31 PMif the M-16 is around 500 bucks I wander how much the M-30 will be,...600, 650 ?It needs to be priced with a very deep discount over the European dealers, or I doubt sales will be brisk enough to sustain interest. Losta folks still think 'cheap' when it comes to Chinese guns. At $179, a SPA gun is amazing, at $600 or $650, it better be better than a Euro gun, for certain. Otherwise, why buy a Chinese gun for $650 when you coulda had something like an HW110 for a couple hundred more? The more the retail price, the less sense it makes for the buyer to buy a SPA gun. Unless they start winning shooting competitions, then they'll take off, even the expensive ones.
if the M-16 is around 500 bucks I wander how much the M-30 will be,...600, 650 ?
The mag still has to be manually advanced via the bolt. What's the difference if that action also cocks the hammer? If there was a hammer.
I'm thinking with the really heavy pellets in .22 that I'll be able to be able to shoot across sections of field that are on the state land that I hunt. I'm hoping this Dominator is out of the box with plenty of power but if need be I can alway adjust it so it is. I'm talking about some of the really long shots in the bean and corn fields, I sometimes see some really long shots I don't bother trying with what I've got right now but hopefully the Dominator can fill the bill
I have 6 SPA guns. If the M30 works well and shoots straight, I'll have 7. It appears to be a near perfect quail hunting machine.
Quote from: Wayne52 on August 08, 2017, 11:26:38 PMI just checked my Varmint bolt and it was loose so I put some red loctite on it, that stuff seems to work pretty good I think. Bill I remember you saying yours was loose and the last time I had checked mine it was tight but not when I checked it today. I rolled the handle on a table and it didn't look bent at all.I'm not going tot use Red Loctite. I'm sure I'll want to remove it sometime in the future.
A couple people have mentioned not being able to shoot pups. Why is that? is it injury or the pup design itself?
Quote from: Vee3 on August 09, 2017, 08:07:30 PMI have 6 SPA guns. If the M30 works well and shoots straight, I'll have 7. It appears to be a near perfect quail hunting machine.My sentiments exactly but in my case it would be grouse, I've seen more than one kind of game bird in the tree rows between the fields I mentioned earlier in this thread and getting an idea of where they're roosting a person could probably do pretty good right at day break when moving out of their roost.