Quote from: jaed.43725 on June 20, 2015, 09:51:44 PMQuote from: maraudinglizard on June 20, 2015, 09:40:07 PMThis might put things in a little bit better perspective. White Tail does average about 90lbs to 120lbs. Deer can be very destructive to residential areas and farms. This video was taken in Alabama where they now allow .30 cal. or larger air rifles to be used to hunt deer.That goes perfect with what I said, that you must have an absolutely perfect shot with a .357 air rifle for something like deer. Headshots are preferred. Its the old adage of just because you can.Really, it is not about "just because you can". It is about what can be accomplished with minimal resources and someone willing to limit himself to doing the right thing by the game animal.Let me relate a story to you. When I was a child my step-dad bought me a bow. I wanted one so badly. I shot that bow for ten years. Then I got another and it was 30 pounds! I shot that bow for a couple of years. Then I was 14. "What do you want for your birthday son?" Well dad, I want that red wing hunter in the hunting club store. So I had it. I had my 43 pound pull, Red Wing Hunter."But Dad, now I want to hunt deer with my bow?" Dad said that was idiotic. Dad said you can not humanely kill deer with a bow. Thankfully my friend's father was a Virginia Game Warden named Dupree. That game warden took my dad to a 20 yard target. He taped a dollar bill on that target and he told my dad, "Here is the deal. Every time I hit George, you give me a dollar. Every time I miss, I give you a dollar." Two hours later he was still taking dollars from my dad. True story.That winter I killed my first deer with a 27 foot pound weapon at seven yards. Before you judge, think about it. People have taken game a thousand different ways. It is the nature of man to be a predator with respect to other species. Doing it efficiently is really important. It is especially important it that game might escape. My point there is that, If you know what you are doing, and you limit yourself to the proper use of your weapon, you can humanely take deer with a club.
Quote from: maraudinglizard on June 20, 2015, 09:40:07 PMThis might put things in a little bit better perspective. White Tail does average about 90lbs to 120lbs. Deer can be very destructive to residential areas and farms. This video was taken in Alabama where they now allow .30 cal. or larger air rifles to be used to hunt deer.That goes perfect with what I said, that you must have an absolutely perfect shot with a .357 air rifle for something like deer. Headshots are preferred. Its the old adage of just because you can.
This might put things in a little bit better perspective. White Tail does average about 90lbs to 120lbs. Deer can be very destructive to residential areas and farms. This video was taken in Alabama where they now allow .30 cal. or larger air rifles to be used to hunt deer.
Now you guys are cross breeding archery into the airgun world. Yes there are a lot of similarities...shot placement along with accuracy and the angle of the shot is important on both. With today's bows you dont need the 70 lbs bow...cams have become so efficient. Im going to stay out of the archery world because we are an airgun forum. PS...I also own an FX Indy that shoots arrows..and have killed hogs with it...best of both worlds. Hunting with airguns and bow you must understand ballistics...you cant compare them to the power of powder burners in terms of the way they give off energy. The PE from bows are used to crush bone. heavier the arrow; dont have to worry about bone or shot placement. Same with air rifles...heavier the pellet the more bone breaking power it has. Also, the way energy is adsorbed through the target is completely different. Arrows energy is sliced. Pellets but holes through target...along with a lot of hemorrhage. Cant be compared to one of a firearm...but yet an arrow and pellet can do there job. Remember shot placement is key. Also, the hunter must be ethical. To say that it can't but there are proven videos...and you say that there edited heavily is obscured. Proof was given but you denied the proof. This isnt an opinion. It's a fact a bulldog or rogue can kill a deer...has been done... Youd just not rather see the obvious...want me to bring you to georgia or texas and go hunt some monster hogs with my rogue???
Quote from: maraudinglizard on June 20, 2015, 09:40:07 PMThis might put things in a little bit better perspective. White Tail does average about 90lbs to 120lbs. Deer can be very destructive to residential areas and farms. This video was taken in Alabama where they now allow .30 cal. or larger air rifles to be used to hunt deer.any center fire rifle is legal to take deer with in Alabama. Even 22-250. But every airgunner should do their part to progress airgunning and not shed a bad light on our sport. Unfortunately, people have this idea that whenever anything living is shot in the head, it becomes immediately motionless and dead. Like in the movies. Remember how .25 auto lost popularity because criminals shot in the head with a .25 auto would sieze and die on the way to the hospital? Now anyone with a little sense knows a bad guy siezing on the ground is far from being a threat anymore. But that still doesn't help the case for the .25 auto. So its really just up to the shooter. If I used a low powered gun to hunt with, I wouldn't make videos or go out of my way to talk about it much just because I know it works and I don't care if anyone knows it or not, and don't want to risk shedding a bad light on our sport.
Some are claiming you can ethically take a deer with it. This is false as the .357 does not have enough impact surface for its speed to do so.
I think this part of your post is where the hiccup is ..QuoteSome are claiming you can ethically take a deer with it. This is false as the .357 does not have enough impact surface for its speed to do so.one can ethically take a deer with it.
Quote from: MicErs on June 20, 2015, 10:03:53 PMThat winter I killed my first deer with a 27 foot pound weapon at seven yards. Before you judge, think about it. People have taken game a thousand different ways. It is the nature of man to be a predator with respect to other species. Doing it efficiently is really important. It is especially important it that game might escape. My point there is that, If you know what you are doing, and you limit yourself to the proper use of your weapon, you can humanely take deer with a club.Your story perfectly shows my point. Most states have limits of 35 pound draw. So why you may have pulled it off, that does not mean you should have. Thanks for the reinforcement.
That winter I killed my first deer with a 27 foot pound weapon at seven yards. Before you judge, think about it. People have taken game a thousand different ways. It is the nature of man to be a predator with respect to other species. Doing it efficiently is really important. It is especially important it that game might escape. My point there is that, If you know what you are doing, and you limit yourself to the proper use of your weapon, you can humanely take deer with a club.
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