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bReTt · « **on:** March 14, 2015, 02:45:09 AM »

My HW95 delivered today!

First impressions with new springers are always a mixed bag for me. I know what the HW guns are capable of but they still need so much TLC out of the box!

This one was a bit gritty when cocking, a bit twangy on firing, and was erratic in the POI when aiming. It's hard to take my own advice and do what I have suggested to other shooters with a new HW spring gun... Just shoot it and give it some time, it will settle down. This one was no different! ha

I tried to not be too harsh in my initial judgement but it's difficult since I have other HW that I have worked on and smoothed out. I ran about 200 pellets through it today and it is taming down just fine. The cocking is getting smoother, the twang is still there, the POI is settled in now and it's shooting Superdomes very tight at 880 fps average. I will pull this rifle apart and do my own clean up and tune on it. The plan is to bring it down to 12 fpe and get it as smooth as possible.

Overall, I am pleased with this rifle and I already think it's going to be my go to gun for fun! I can't wait to dig into it and get it cleaned up and get rid of that TWAaang! ha ha!

Brett

Here are the chrony #'s shooting RWS Superdomes 8.3 gr
Lo 872.5 Hi 889.3 Av 882.2 Es 17.26 Sd 5.0
Not too bad! This is with about 200 pellets through it today.

Motorhead · « **Reply #1 on:** March 14, 2015, 02:50:48 AM »

Springers .... love em or hate em, always an adventure to settle them down for easy shooting bliss.
You'll get there no doubt about it.

grauhanen · « **Reply #2 on:** March 14, 2015, 08:14:28 AM »

Sounds like you're off to a good start. You might want to give it a taste of pellets other than RWS Superdomes. I say that because every HW I've had, except one, has not liked Superdomes for accuracy very much. Try H&N FTT and JSB Exact.

Tomcat · « **Reply #3 on:** March 14, 2015, 09:57:40 AM »

Congratulations on your new HW95. Wishing you the best with it. Once you get her cleaned up and tamed to your liking, I am sure it will treat you well.

PS: Looks like you have a great little helper, shown in your avatar.

loiblb · « **Reply #4 on:** March 14, 2015, 10:49:38 AM »

We need to see if your hw95 .17 or your hw95 .22 turns out to be the most fun to shoot.

Keep us posted

TWBryan · « **Reply #5 on:** March 14, 2015, 12:08:57 PM »

Congats,looks like a quality piece of equipment.

palonej · « **Reply #6 on:** March 14, 2015, 12:39:42 PM »

Enjoy her Brett!!!
I would dig into her right away also bro.
A friend got a new 95 22 cal this past summer.
That lady jumped and twanged and bounced all over....we couldn't even zero the scope!!
I'm sure after 10,000 rounds she might've smoothed out a bit, but why wait??
Put a Vortek kit in and the lady behaves nicely now!!
Open her up!!!
I also agree with trying JSB and H&N FTTs.
I have a TX, Pro Sport, 97 and 98.....not one of them shot Superdomes well!
My 98 likes CPLs, JSB 8.4, 10.3 and FTTs in 4.51 best.
Enjoy and let us know how she behaves!!

bReTt · « **Reply #7 on:** March 14, 2015, 01:26:54 PM »

Quote from: Motorhead on March 14, 2015, 02:50:48 AM

always an adventure to settle them down for easy shooting bliss.

Yeah, that's for sure! I don't think it's going to take too much to get it there. From what I have seen with mine, the spring to guide fit makes the biggest difference in the cycle. I like to pop three buttons on the rear of the piston and do a clean-up, de-burr and re-lube and adjust the trigger down to a lighter pull and everything seems to be A-OKAY!

The plan is to bring the power down to about 12 fpe. I started to do that on my HW77K by cutting coils off of the spring. After the first cut, the rifle settled down and shot great at 850 fps (down from 885) so I left it there. I suspect this one will do the same. The toughest part for me is getting the right fit on the spring and guide. The good part about this particular one is that I already have a Macarri spring and guide that I replaced out of my R9! Yeah, half of the battle has been won! I will drop that in it and see how that goes first before I start cutting the spring. I don't like cutting aftermarket springs. I don't mind cutting factory springs. Just a mental thing I guess! ha ha ha!

bReTt · « **Reply #8 on:** March 14, 2015, 01:32:43 PM »

Quote from: Tomcat on March 14, 2015, 09:57:40 AM

Congratulations on your new HW95. Wishing you the best with it. Once you get her cleaned up and tamed to your liking, I am sure it will treat you well.

PS: Looks like you have a great little helper, shown in your avatar.

Thank you! I'm with you, I think it will domesticate nicely. They always do after a little bit of work.

My little helper! ha ha ha! He is my shadow right now. Just a little about me, that is our youngest, the youngest of eight! Five boys, three girls aged 17 down to 2. I have lots of helpers! ha ha!

bReTt · « **Reply #9 on:** March 14, 2015, 01:40:46 PM »

Quote from: loiblb on March 14, 2015, 10:49:38 AM

We need to see if your hw95 .17 or your hw95 .22 turns out to be the most fun to shoot.

Keep us posted

I am thinking that the .177 HW95 will be nicer to shoot. If I had exactly the same gun, just one in each caliber, I think that it would be a good race. Since my .22 is the R9 and I have modified it over the years, it feels like a totally different rifle than my 95. Waaaay different! The 95 is just simple... iron sights, basic stock (which fits me really well surprisingly) no bells or whistles. Right now I am into that way of shooting. I took the scopes off of my HW77K and my HW30S. The R9 has so sights so it has to keep a scope on. I plan on shooting the 95 with the iron sights for a while. I may scope it for pellet testing but it will come off after it's best pellet is confirmed.

I will keep an update on the progress.

bReTt · « **Reply #10 on:** March 14, 2015, 01:48:50 PM »

Quote from: TWBryan on March 14, 2015, 12:08:57 PM

Congats,looks like a quality piece of equipment.

Hey Tim! Thank you. I am excited to get some more time working on it and shooting it. I'll give an update.

bReTt · « **Reply #11 on:** March 14, 2015, 02:01:51 PM »

Quote from: palonej on March 14, 2015, 12:39:42 PM

Enjoy her Brett!!!
I would dig into her right away also bro.
A friend got a new 95 22 cal this past summer.
That lady jumped and twanged and bounced all over....we couldn't even zero the scope!!
I'm sure after 10,000 rounds she might've smoothed out a bit, but why wait??
Put a Vortek kit in and the lady behaves nicely now!!
Open her up!!!
I also agree with trying JSB and H&N FTTs.
I have a TX, Pro Sport, 97 and 98.....not one of them shot Superdomes well!
My 98 likes CPLs, JSB 8.4, 10.3 and FTTs in 4.51 best.
Enjoy and let us know how she behaves!!

Hey Joe! You are right, I will dig into it right away. I just so happen to have a Macarri spring and guide that I took out of my R9 that will be just right for the 95. It will take me longer to clean up my shop enough to get a spot to work than it will to actually do the work to the rifle! ha ha ha! That's true.

I'm not sure if I want to button the piston or not. I have only done the glue on buttons before, never cut a hole and inserted anything. Maybe I will stick to what I know on this one. It seems to be working. I did a ghetto tune on my HW77K with a shrink wrap over the spring guide to take out the slop and I used holes punched out of a peanut butter jar for the buttons on the piston and compression tube. It has held up the best out of all that I have done, even with using other purchased materials! Maybe I'll be eating nothing but peanut butter sandwiches for the next few days so I can get an empty container for the project! I need some milk! ha ha.

I'll keep you updated and thanks for the encouragement!

Tomcat · « **Reply #12 on:** March 14, 2015, 10:26:14 PM »

Brett, have you ever tried the milk jug tune. There have been threads about it, but off the top of my head, I don't know where I read it. Anyway, the idea is to wrap a sleeve cut from a plastic milk jug around the outside of the spring and inside the piston. In addition to the new spring guide and top hat, I also did this mod to my HW50s. It is a very pleasant shot cycle IMO, with all stock parts and Mccarri lubes. My seal looked undamaged, so I didn't change any parts.

bReTt · « **Reply #13 on:** March 15, 2015, 02:38:57 AM »

Quote from: Tomcat on March 14, 2015, 10:26:14 PM

Brett, have you ever tried the milk jug tune. There have been threads about it, but off the top of my head, I don't know where I read it. Anyway, the idea is to wrap a sleeve cut from a plastic milk jug around the outside of the spring and inside the piston. In addition to the new spring guide and top hat, I also did this mod to my HW50s. It is a very pleasant shot cycle IMO, with all stock parts and Mccarri lubes. My seal looked undamaged, so I didn't change any parts.

No milk jug tune.... yet! ha ha! I'm up for most anything, especially when it's cheap. The R9 and 95 both have a metal piston liner in them. I am guessing that I would replace the liner with the plastic one? I could try that.

Here is an update for the 95 as of today.

Today I pulled the rifle apart and cleaned up the insides and replaced the stock spring and guide with a JM spring and guide that I had pulled from my R9. It sure did knock out that TWAaaang! Now it's a solid THUNK! I also gained a little FPS from the new set up and consistency.

New #'s are this

RWS Superdomes 8.3 gr
Lo 894.5 Hi 904.9 Av 900.1 Es 10.37 Sd 3.16

T-Higgs · « **Reply #14 on:** March 15, 2015, 09:19:10 AM »

Brett,
With 8 kids, you should have no trouble procuring materials for all the "milk-n-peanut butter" tunes a guy could do! Haha!
Nice rifle, I'm looking forward to hearing your progress and thoughts. Are you thinking custom stock on this one too?

.20cal fan · « **Reply #15 on:** March 15, 2015, 10:49:56 AM »

Motorhead,

If brett was to perform a self tune, what kit would you suggest and why. Also, could you include your second choice as well. I appreciate it.

Quote from: Motorhead on March 14, 2015, 02:50:48 AM

Springers .... love em or hate em, always an adventure to settle them down for easy shooting bliss.
You'll get there no doubt about it.

Tomcat · « **Reply #16 on:** March 15, 2015, 11:19:20 AM »

Sounds like you have it under control. I wasn't aware there was a metal piston liner already in there. You may still benefit from a new spring guide if yours is a loose fit inside the spring. I still have to smile every time I see your avatar.

That is a classic photo!

Bullit · « **Reply #17 on:** March 15, 2015, 12:05:34 PM »

Congrats on the new addition! I agree with Joe in that I never had great success for accuracy with the RWS Superdomes. The Boxed 1,250qty Crosman Premier Lites (7.9g) were superior at 25yds etc.. The JSB Exact Lites (8.4g) coming in second. But that's part of the fun! Enjoy

Nitrocrushr · « **Reply #18 on:** March 15, 2015, 05:01:58 PM »

Nice rifle Brett! I do like my springers

But I am taking Joe's advice from here on out and getting them tuned right away. Got my HW98 recently and had it boxed up and on it's way to Motorhead within a couple days, never even fired a shot.

Steve

Bob01605 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 15, 2015, 06:54:39 PM »

Yes - have it tuned .. My .177 R9 was tuned by Lee Haire .. It shoots very well now with JSB Exact 8.44 grain pellets .. Bob

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