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Rescue35 · « **Reply #360 on:** January 24, 2015, 11:59:08 AM »

It is tomorrow for those of us not up at 0230. Get the wifes hair dryer on those stocks to make that poly dry quicker...says the man with nothing invested.

I'll go back to patiently waiting for more pictures now.

jvanschoonhoven · « **Reply #361 on:** January 24, 2015, 11:59:50 AM »

A pump gun with a real stock power and a mag.... Can it be true?

CarsonRatSniper · « **Reply #362 on:** January 24, 2015, 03:50:43 PM »

I was talking to Bob and a change I'm going to make is cutting the forearm farther back...this will expose the CO2 bulb (see pic) but adds another 3" to the mechanical advantage of the pump lever, which is significant.

I have no problem pumping the gun up (even without a stock!) but I also rep out 300 lbs for 10 reps on the bench...I'm not the best judge for everybody else as to what *I* consider 'easy'.

Its a matter of function over form...I want everybody happy with how their rifle *functions* and don't want them struggling to pump up the gun.

These stocks are not wasted however...they will be used on some bottle guns I'm building like Bob's Hayabusa.

Mike

Habanero69er · « **Reply #363 on:** January 24, 2015, 04:27:54 PM »

Good looking rifle. Seeing how I'm a lefty, I like the ambi stock.

c670809 · « **Reply #364 on:** January 24, 2015, 04:33:11 PM »

I love the idea of more mechanical advantage.

I would also consider cutting it with a bit of an angle like the one shown. It looks a lot better than a straight cut.

Matt

rsterne · « **Reply #365 on:** January 24, 2015, 04:35:09 PM »

habanero, that last pic is a Disco stock on my Carbine.... The Millennium Pumper uses the Blaster stock (at the top of the page), which is a thumbhole.... although I think Mike may have an ambi stock lined up for it....

Bob

CarsonRatSniper · « **Reply #366 on:** January 24, 2015, 05:00:07 PM »

Here's the Ambi stock that Norm will use if somebody needs one due to being a lefty...

Here is the aluminum trigger guard (also from Norm) we will be using.

Mike

Hanabata808 · « **Reply #367 on:** January 24, 2015, 05:10:00 PM »

In addition to the longer forearm, I also like that sleight angle on the cut of the forearm. It looks really good in the pic you posted. I think Bob's millennium pumper is that way too.
Looking first-class!!

CarsonRatSniper · « **Reply #368 on:** January 24, 2015, 05:31:13 PM »

I agree!
I asked Norm to make an angle cut starting 1/2" forward of the gauge hole that closely matches Bob's Millennium...it should look really nice.

Mike

YEMX · « **Reply #369 on:** January 24, 2015, 07:08:22 PM »

Quote from: jvanschoonhoven on January 24, 2015, 11:59:50 AM

A pump gun with a real stock power and a mag.... Can it be true?

You mean a "Modular, large caliber, high quality, custom Pumper with a mag"...

you can build a pumper w/a real stock and uses a mag- 13xx/2100 hybrid w/a BNM! LOL

jvanschoonhoven · « **Reply #370 on:** January 25, 2015, 07:24:08 PM »

You can build anything lol I ment one thats actually made that way from the start. One someone can buy.

Only other one I know of is made by fx and i don't think you can say that the fx had a nice stock. At least my other fx gun had a crappy stock.

CarsonRatSniper · « **Reply #371 on:** January 27, 2015, 02:52:23 PM »

Ok, I just got 953 fps out of a King @ 2000 psi and 780 fps out of a 37gr Spitzer @ 1800 psi.
The Disco gauge is reading 400 psi low

I will most likely go to a different gauge vs the factory gauge.

That's with the Disco poppet...the Mrod poppets should be here tomorrow...today I am sleeving all of the valves with a brass bushing so I'm ready to go tomorrow.

Mike
Its starting to get good guys!!!

tominMPLS · « **Reply #372 on:** January 28, 2015, 06:41:25 PM »

Can you even buy a similar sized small gauge that is accurate? Has anyone ever found one and if so, where and how much? I know I have not been able to find one yet.

By the way, this project is very interesting and looks like it will turn out to be a great airgun! Way to go Bob and Mike!

Tom

CarsonRatSniper · « **Reply #373 on:** January 28, 2015, 06:57:04 PM »

I bought one from McMaster that has identical dimensions to the factory gauge and it is accurate.

We will build a gauge adapter that I will verify the accuracy of the gauges psi reading using the large gauge on my Joe B Tiger Shark tank prior to installing them on a gun.

If someone has another source for a high quality gauge, I'm all ears! I'd prefer one with a white face vs black but I will be happy just with a *quality* 3k psi gauge!

Mike

HillGSA · « **Reply #374 on:** January 28, 2015, 07:01:52 PM »

Dwyer series SGC2 may be the same gauge you are referring to:

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HillGSA · « **Reply #375 on:** January 28, 2015, 07:13:45 PM »

For testing, I like to use these digital gauges from McMaster-Carr; # 3834K18

They sell the fittings to adapt the gauge to the rifle too

HillGSA · « **Reply #376 on:** January 28, 2015, 07:22:35 PM »

I don't know if the "link" will work - http://www.dwyer-inst.com/PDF_files/SGC2.i.pdf -

SGC2-06 is the part number for a 0-3000 psi 1" dial x 1/8" threads gauge, and is +/- 5% accurate

But it still has the "black dial".

CarsonRatSniper · « **Reply #377 on:** January 28, 2015, 07:26:57 PM »

Those look fine by me...and they're half price of the factory Disco gauge!

They have a 2-3 week lead time according to their site and no returns.

Have they proven to be accurate & reliable? I'm not wrapped around the axle about the color of the face - I just think white is nicer to look at, but all of my other gauges are black.

Mike

QVTom · « **Reply #378 on:** January 28, 2015, 07:36:21 PM »

Quote from: HillGSA on January 28, 2015, 07:01:52 PM

Dwyer series SGC2 may be the same gauge you are referring to:

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I'm using this gauge and only have two examples. They are not great. There must be something better.

Tom

HillGSA · « **Reply #379 on:** January 28, 2015, 07:38:06 PM »

In my experience, they have been more reliable and accurate than the factory gauge.

If you happen to need to snug them up more than just hand tight, make sure to use a 15/16" socket wrench for the best/full contact:

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Millennium Pumper Production - *The Beginning* - And The Lousy End

Author Topic: Millennium Pumper Production - *The Beginning* - And The Lousy End (Read 292114 times))

Millennium Pumper Production - The Beginning - And The Lousy End

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