Author Topic: HW97K .20 (Read 15208 times))

jusanothajoe · « **on:** January 06, 2013, 02:34:22 PM »

Received my new to me HW97K .20 that I bought off the classifieds. was low mileage with around 50 pellets through it. Mounted a Hawke 4-12X50 with a RWS lockdown mount. Bought a tin of H&N ftt's and a tin of JSB's. Man not a very big selection in .20 She liked the Ftt's right away. first pic is 5 shot group at 35 yrds, .325 CTC. The 97 will give the TX's a run for their money in accuracy. I like to shoot empty shotgun hulls for reactive targets, 2nd pic is one I almost hit in the middle.

thekid · « **Reply #1 on:** January 06, 2013, 02:51:42 PM »

Sweet shooting!
Remember the saying...70% shooter..30% gun

jusanothajoe · « **Reply #2 on:** January 06, 2013, 03:03:14 PM »

Quote from: thekid on January 06, 2013, 02:51:42 PM

Sweet shooting!
Remember the saying...70% shooter..30% gun

LOL, not in this case, 90% gun and 2% shooter and 8% luck. The 97 is a Sweeeeeet gun for sure.

Clifford · « **Reply #3 on:** January 06, 2013, 03:57:24 PM »

Very nice gun. Mine in .177 seems to like H&N Cudas so far but I've been looking to give the FTT a try. Nice to see your getting that kinda accuracy outta them. Btw, nice shooting.

amb5500c · « **Reply #4 on:** January 06, 2013, 04:09:04 PM »

Great gun. It'll do you right
Richard

Rico14 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 06, 2013, 04:37:00 PM »

Try the Beeman FTS. I know it's the same pellet as the FTT but I shoot both in my R9 .20 and the Beeman FTS is more accurate. Don't worry about the lack of selection in .20, all you need is one good pellet

London177 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 06, 2013, 06:49:16 PM »

Nice shooting.
I know a few HW97 owners who prefer the it over the TX and they have owned both.

lillysdad621 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 06, 2013, 09:33:22 PM »

I actually own both and my 97K is actually in .20. The FTS shoot at 802 fps (tuned gun) and i have it set up for HFT in days that are too windy to shoot the tx on. The TX is shooting 8.44 jsb at 850 (detuned) but it is PCP accurate... out to 30 yards the TX is surgical... but pushing metal spinners out to 75 yards the TX is pitiful compared to a .20 cal smacking the &^^& out of those metal discs... and for hunting... the HW is a serious plague on our crow population. Love them both...

hjets · « **Reply #8 on:** January 06, 2013, 11:35:53 PM »

I've had my 97 Stainless/synthetic in .177 for approximately a month and am still sorting out pellets. I recently bought 5 tins of pellets in the 10 grain range from different companies. I can consistently shoot 1/2" to 3/4" groups with HN 8.6 FTT's at 25 yards. Most of the time I get 4 nicely together and then I blow it on the fifth. I tried to shoot LW pellets that my FWB 601 likes but the HW shoots them like a scattergun.

itbvolks · « **Reply #9 on:** January 07, 2013, 11:55:28 PM »

So for those who've shot both - what the consensus with regards to the TX vs 97?

I'm planning on using my rifle for double duty with a fair amount of small game hunting tied in with some paper work with my kids. I was pretty well set on the TX but love the .20 option for the HW and see posts like this so regularly.

Just can't decide!

For the OP - great to hear your getting along so well with the new rifle. Really beautiful firearm and should serve you very well long term. I see you have quite the collection. Its going to be hard to decide what comes out of the safe!

Nikoman · « **Reply #10 on:** January 08, 2013, 01:15:58 AM »

Quote from: itbvolks on January 07, 2013, 11:55:28 PM

So for those who've shot both - what the consensus with regards to the TX vs 97?

I'm planning on using my rifle for double duty with a fair amount of small game hunting tied in with some paper work with my kids. I was pretty well set on the TX but love the .20 option for the HW and see posts like this so regularly.

Just can't decide!

For the OP - great to hear your getting along so well with the new rifle. Really beautiful firearm and should serve you very well long term. I see you have quite the collection. Its going to be hard to decide what comes out of the safe!

It really depends on what you're going to use it for. If you're going to be doing serious FT, then go with the TX. Build quality, the Air Arms has the upper hand as well but to each their own. I don't own an HW underlever but I do have several other Weihrauchs and they can't touch the Brit guns for their build quality. The .20 caliber is nice, but I prefer something more powerful than either of these two underlevers to propel that size pellet. Most FT shooters use .177 for the flatter trajectory and some of the smaller target zones. Like I said, everyone has an opinion but we'll gladly spend your money for you

We're really good enablers here!
I say buy both!!

jusanothajoe · « **Reply #11 on:** January 08, 2013, 08:40:43 AM »

If they made a TX in .20, I prolly would have bought one. But I am well pleased with the 97K. What I can tell you is both the TX and the 97k are the least hold sensitive guns I have shot, and thats what I needed. I can't hit a bull in the ars with a magnum airgun. I am shooting better groups at 35yrds with the TX's and the 97K, than I could shoot with other guns at 12 yrds. The 97 is a little easier to cock, and has a shorter cocking stroke. You can't go wrong with either of these guns. But the TX's with a walnut stock are just beautiful guns.

itbvolks · « **Reply #12 on:** January 08, 2013, 10:10:38 AM »

Quote from: jusanothajoe on January 08, 2013, 08:40:43 AM

If they made a TX in .20, I prolly would have bought one. But I am well pleased with the 97K. What I can tell you is both the TX and the 97k are the least hold sensitive guns I have shot, and thats what I needed. I can't hit a bull in the ars with a magnum airgun. I am shooting better groups at 35yrds with the TX's and the 97K, than I could shoot with other guns at 12 yrds. The 97 is a little easier to cock, and has a shorter cocking stroke. You can't go wrong with either of these guns. But the TX's with a walnut stock are just beautiful guns.

So this is where I am at as well. I've shot a lot of rifles and while I can handle a magnum springer for hunting duties, I simply don't find them super accurate though - to be fair - much of my hunting ends up at fairly close range due to the foliage/ cover we have here in CT.

I just envision using something where I have a known yardage (laser), and if I do my part - I can simply put rounds consistently on the money.

With either the TX or 97, I'm concerned about the .22 offering providing the possibility of extending my workable range out past 40yds. I'm not sure if one of the tuning options can provide a 17-18fpe .22 option for either rifle??? Ideally I'd prefer .22 but I'm certain with proper shot placement from an accurate rifle - .177 could work fine...

I don't want to derail this thread so if people feel I am, please let me know. I just like that I'm seeing many of you contributing to this thread have or have shot both options in both offerings.

Thanks much for the insight guys!

lillysdad621 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 08, 2013, 11:43:25 AM »

my tuned 97K will shoot at 17 fpe with fts pellets and that has being a proven combo out to 50 yards for hunting small game. Crows have been actually taken out to 73 yards (rangefinder confirmed) and to be honest with you I still thought that pellets were over penetrating. I am going to test the crosman .20 cal domes (14.3 gr) to see if they are close to the accuracy desired, an those should prove just as suited as the .22 in about the same weight, but with flatter trajectory. i have used a .22 hw77 at 12 fpe in for hunting and that combo will roll a rabbit at 40 yards all day long... and that was using hobbies at 11.9 gr!!!

jusanothajoe · « **Reply #14 on:** January 08, 2013, 11:48:30 AM »

In .22 I would go with a TX, a little more power. In .20 97K is only choice. In .177 you can't go wrong either way. I feel comfortable hunting with my .22 TX, or any of my guns for that matter. but my shots are inside 40 yrds, and I havn't done any longer range shooting. I will tell you if you have never picked these guns up, they are heavy. too heavy for some people, but it doesn't bother me. Are they worth the money ? ............................. YES. and don't worry about derailing this thread, this is what this site is for

jwh · « **Reply #15 on:** January 08, 2013, 11:51:40 AM »

You can't go wrong with a 97 in .20. Don't worry about the selection of pellets in .20 either. I have two .20's and they both like several different pellets.

lillysdad621 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 08, 2013, 12:05:43 PM »

as far as weight... I like the my fatty blue laminate HW97k... It is very stable, stable enough to be shot from a bench rest with no problem... With the scope it tips the scales at 11 lb. Not the kind of gun to walk around the woods with. Fot that the Ole trusty RWS 34 .22 will do.

jusanothajoe · « **Reply #17 on:** January 08, 2013, 02:10:02 PM »

Quote from: itbvolks on January 07, 2013, 11:55:28 PM

So for those who've shot both - what the consensus with regards to the TX vs 97?

I'm planning on using my rifle for double duty with a fair amount of small game hunting tied in with some paper work with my kids. I was pretty well set on the TX but love the .20 option for the HW and see posts like this so regularly.

Just can't decide!

For the OP - great to hear your getting along so well with the new rifle. Really beautiful firearm and should serve you very well long term. I see you have quite the collection. Its going to be hard to decide what comes out of the safe!

here's one if you are interested.
http://www.airguns.net/classifieds/show_ad.php?adNum=57178&adSort=&StartingAd=0&NumberOfPages=5

itbvolks · « **Reply #18 on:** January 08, 2013, 05:54:46 PM »

Honestly, I love the blue laminate 97 in .20cal. Velocity seems to be a nice compromise between the .177/.22 options. Stock is also really stunning - a little "loud" but really nice. Weight wise, I'm not too worried about handling. I've got some pretty substantial powder burners so this will fit right in...

You guys might have swayed me.... lol I'm not sure. Curious what guys with the TX are seeing for muzzle velocity? Like wise, curious as to what you guys are generating for velocity and what your 97's shooting with the .20's?

Decisions decisions!!!

Thanks again for fielding my questions.

jusanothajoe · « **Reply #19 on:** January 08, 2013, 08:15:26 PM »

All my guns are stock with less than 500 shots
HW97K .20
H&N FTT's 11.42gr JSB 13.73gr
High - 780 High - 702
Low - 772 Low - 689
Avg - 775 Avg - 694
ES - 8 ES - 13
SD - 2 SD - 3

TX200 .177 I didn't write everything down, all I have is the Avg
H&N FTT's 8.64gr
Avg - 868

TX200 .22
H&N FTT's 14.66gr
Avg - 686

all three running around 14-15 FPE

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