Hw 50 .177 ?

[cpool]

What is the lightest weight pellet safe to shoot.

[Mark 611]

I wouldn't shoot anything lighter than a 7.33gn but that's me! I usually shoot the 7.9gn CPHP's from mine, when I had a 50 in .177cal, my 50's are .20cal or .22cal, the 7.9gn pellets are also safe to shoot in an R9/HW95 without issues

[splitbeing]

HW50 is the gun I fantasize about having but don't actually need. Curious what you find works best in yours. Following...

[cpool]

All I have shot is jsb 8.44 domed and 7.9 Chp . Just curious of other weight

[splitbeing]

Ftt 8.64 are probably worth trying.  The 7.25 terminators might work if you need a hunting oellet. I like them in .177 but not as much in other calibers.

[north country gal]

The absolute best pellet I've found for my HW50 in 177 has been the JSB Express 7.87. This pellet has become somewhat of a legend for the HW50 in 177. Give it a try.

[cpool]

The 7.87 was the reason I asked this question

[jackinil]

FTT 8.64s and AA 7.33s both work fine in mine.

[cpool]

Thanks I mainly squirrel hunt punch paper a little because I want real tight groups and the harder I try the worse it gets.

[EMrider]

I've gotten the best accuracy from my .177 hw50s with AA 8.4s or JSB 7.9s.  Since the JSB 7.9s are sometimes harder to find, I just go with the AA 8.4s for both hunting and plinking.  The hw50s is by far my favorite all around springer.
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[splitbeing]

Something I've wondered about with the hw50 is cocking compared to the r7.  The r7 i just break with a hand on the barrel and a hand on the stock while standing with no leverage (nothing touching the knee or any other body part to gain leverage: think breaking a stick with just your handsj. The hw50 seems like it's just big enough you would need some leverage point to cock it.  But that's a guess.

[Yogi]

Well the HW 50 has a chisel breach lock while the HW 30 has a ball bearing one.

In my HW 50's all the Air Arms .177 pellets shoot very well.   Even better than the JSB ones of similar style and weight.

-Yogi

[Bayman]

Something I've wondered about with the hw50 is cocking compared to the r7.  The r7 i just break with a hand on the barrel and a hand on the stock while standing with no leverage (nothing touching the knee or any other body part to gain leverage: think breaking a stick with just your handsj. The hw50 seems like it's just big enough you would need some leverage point to cock it.  But that's a guess.

A full power 50 is fairly stiff to cock. Regardless of published data the rifle feels twice as hard to cock as your R7 and it's about the same as the bigger more powerful Hw95 /R9. The 50s are absolutely great guns. IMO they're the best all purpose springer Weihrauch makes. BUT they will never replace your R7 for fun.

Well unless you reduce the power of the 50 a couple, three foot pounds. It'll be more fun to shoot but you'll be giving up the power that makes it more versatile. If you're not hunting thats not a problem. Frankly making a plinker out of a 50 just gives you a bigger HW30/R7. For some people that's reason enough. I have 13 Weihrauchs in three calibers including three Hw30s and a full power 177 Hw50. Only now am I thinking of adding another 177 Hw50 (lowered power) for plinking. I'm on the fence about it because it's a novelty rather than a necessity. No matter *(&^ or highwater, I'll always have my original 177 full power Hw50 and Hw30s. The 50 for squirrels the 30s for fun.

[north country gal]

I added HW moderators to both of my HW50s a few years back to make them easier to cock, not so much for noise reduction, though there is some of that, too, of course. The moderators do make the HW50s easier to cock, significantly so. You do lose some of that easy portability with the moderators on the end of the barrel, of course, but I only punch paper these days, so not a big deal.

And I do shoot the 20 cal (lower gun) a lot more than the 177 (top). The 20 really smacks steel with more authority.

[Yogi]

I added HW moderators to both of my HW50s a few years back to make them easier to cock, not so much for noise reduction, though there is some of that, too, of course. The moderators do make the HW50s easier to cock, significantly so. You do lose some of that easy portability with the moderators on the end of the barrel, of course, but I only punch paper these days, so not a big deal.

And I do shoot the 20 cal (lower gun) a lot more than the 177 (top). The 20 really smacks steel with more authority.

Joanie,

Which of the 2 HW 50's is the newer one?

-Yogi

[Yogi]

Also, while the cocking stroke of the HW 50 is harder than the HW 30, it is shorter.
The double linkage cocking arm makes it so.  This also enables the cocking arm slot in the stock to be much shorter.
I believe this reduces vibration when fired...

-Y

[splitbeing]

Beautiful guns!

And thanks for the cocking info and comparison to the r7.

I've noticed more people with the hw50 in .177 or .20 claim it as a favorite gun while folks with the r9/hw95 in .22 claim it as a favorite gun (nced one obvious exception).

[Yogi]

Beautiful guns!

And thanks for the cocking info and comparison to the r7.

I've noticed more people with the hw50 in .177 or .20 claim it as a favorite gun while folks with the r9/hw95 in .22 claim it as a favorite gun (nced one obvious exception).

IMHO,

The HW 50 does not have enough umph for .22 pelelts out much past 30 yards.

-Y

PS I converten my .22 cal HW 50 back to .177

[Bayman]

Also, while the cocking stroke of the HW 50 is harder than the HW 30, it is shorter.
The double linkage cocking arm makes it so.  This also enables the cocking arm slot in the stock to be much shorter.
I believe this reduces vibration when fired...

-Y

The 50 and 30 have the same articulated cocking arm and stock design. The 50 is simply harder to cock because of a stiffer spring and short barrel.

The 95 has the split stock and single piece cocking arm. That's actually what makes the rifle comparatively easy to cock for the output. I'm not sure if the split stock "tuning fork effect" is a real thing. My 177 Hw95 is my most accurate breakbarrel. It often out shoots my 97 when it's got the right tin.

[ray1377]

Beautiful guns!

And thanks for the cocking info and comparison to the r7.

I've noticed more people with the hw50 in .177 or .20 claim it as a favorite gun while folks with the r9/hw95 in .22 claim it as a favorite gun (nced one obvious exception).

IMHO,

The HW 50 does not have enough umph for .22 pelelts out much past 30 yards.

Not always the case Yogi, the HW50 has a identical cousin, the HW99 available in the UK as a 12 ft/lb limit gun. On youtube their was a man who used his 99 in .22 to take pigeons and rabbits at 70 yards. It was quite amazing to watch. His channel was Vermin Hunters TV i think.

Thx
Ray