Daisy Powerline 426 suppressor silencer .stl file for 3d printing

[Mel]

Hi subscriber!
Today i received a laser beam for picattinny rail in order to test my gun deviation when a bb is shot, and i noticed that rail was taken by the suppressor
Of course i don't wanna bother you anymore and it is only an idea but would be very difficult adding a rail at the front of the suppressor for picattinny accesories? Is it just a copy-paste matter or a really hard work? Again i don't wanna bother.
Just a thought, just wondering...
Im completely satisfied with V6!
Hace a nice day!

[subscriber]

Mel,

You have to consider the extra weight of a rail section, with a laser attached to it, hanging from the moderator, and that flexing the "legs".  At some point you will be shooting the moderator baffle bore hole edges...

If the laser fits a standard Pic-rail, adding that to the moderator design would not be too difficult.  But if printing many versions to get the fit right will be required, then I am not keen on the job.

[Mel]

Sorry i attached the picture later
It doesnt have to be precise 'cos laser has a clamp that would easily fit almost anywhere

I see also about the extra weight
I of course understand you are busy and i told you don't wanna bother
I'll try to learn about it and although it takes me some time, i'll share here if i success
Sorry again mate!

Edit: maybe if a notch is made at both sides of the front of suppressor, it would be enough for the laser clamp
Let me try with Meshmixer if i can do something worthy, adding two triangular prisms and then substracting them
Or maybe i just can add the two notches with a triangular file at the front

[subscriber]

I am willing to generate the design attached below, as a single iteration.  You will need to clean up some aspects with a file, so if it is too tight, file more where it interferes...

I hope it is useful to you, as the weight of the laser is positioned closer to a direct pistol rail mount.

[Mel]

I am willing to generate the design attached below, as a single iteration.  You will need to clean up some aspects with a file, so if it is too tight, file more where it interferes...

I hope it is useful to you, as the weight of the laser is positioned closer to a direct pistol rail mount.

OH
MY
GOD

Im amazed
Not in a lifetime i could do something like this
Just say thank you would sound ridiculous but THANK YOU! anyway

[subscriber]

I cut and pasted the rail from another design...

[Mel]

Hi subscriber and 3d-printers again
I swear i wasnt going to ask for anything else, dont wanna be annoying, sorry if im being...
It's my 1st time printing with support
Before slicing in Cura, i see red bottom which i think it means it needs support because balconys are hanging on the air (pic1)
If i choose support everywhere with 50º default, it fills the baffles inside the suppressor canceling its function (pic2)
If i choose support everywhere with maximum allowed 80º, it still fills inside the suppressor (pic3)
If i choose support only touching buildplate, it only supports the 1st balcony but not the others (pic4)
As i never printed supports before, i cropped a little part of the new rear with meshmixer so that i can see what happens when printing without support (attached .zip with .stl inside and pic6)
Will all the fillament fall down when printing the balconys? Or do the printer know what to do to avoid it? Do i try?
Any advice i'll be thankful
Other choice would be making the rail a full block without gaps like pic5, what i dont know if it is possible...
Thanks beforehand! Sorry if being annoying...

Edit: if anything, it comforts me to think this request might be worthy for other newbies like me...

[subscriber]

You want external supports only.  It may help to rotate the part 45 degrees to minimize the need for supports, but some will be required.

I am not a printer support specialist because I try to only design parts that don't require any.

You may need to glue the rail onto the moderator, after printing them separately.
  Else watch some tutorial videos:







https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=setting+external+supports+in+cura

[Mel]

You want external supports only.  It may help to rotate the part 45 degrees to minimize the need for supports, but some will be required.

I am not a printer support specialist because I try to only design parts that don't require any.

You may need to glue the rail onto the moderator, after printing them separately.
  Else watch some tutorial videos:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=setting+external+supports+in+cura

Thank you very much subscriber!
You gave me 2 great solutions!
Dividing the piece in 2 and print new rail horizontal and glue them together afterwards
And rotate the piece! For my 10cm3 printer, 30º is maximum allowed and it seems to work, only external supports!
i will try and tell
You are so kind

edit: 30º rotation at 80º overhang angle might fail pic1 although i dont see fill by support inside suppressor
15º at 50º seems working... pic2
30º at 50º fills support inside baffles

[TorqueMaster]

Mel,
In Cura, on the left side panel , is an option to add a "support blocker" -- a cube that you can resize and reposition to prevent supports in areas where you don't want them. 

Also, if leaning the part, I think you'd be better with it leaning back the other way, so the pic rail "stripes" and everything else are printing more up than down.

[Mel]

Good morning everyone!
Thank you for your advices!
Thats right, leaning the piece is the best solution, subscriber gave me the idea i wouldnt notice
Subscriber, as i work with your design in Cura, i like it more and more
i made several tests in Cura and leaning 15º right (or left) like pic3 will solve the problem with less used filament and time.
i chose 60º overhang angle instead of 50º by default in Cura because i saw 60º is the default in Easyware, lets see if its works fine. More than 60º up to 80º might not work
Now im gonna start printing and will tell and show pictures

edit: maybe leaning forward like pic1 is better, pic3 seems to have balconys partially unsupported... im trying to decide
edit2: just by selecting 61º instead of 60º, another support disappeared, instead of using support blocker that i also learned to use, thanks torquemaster
im gonna start printing pic4 now

[subscriber]

Mel,

You asked about a smooth rail to make printing easier.  The smoothed rail shown below has a 45 degree curved chamfer that mates with that of the moderator to pistol rail section.  This means you can print the moderator rear section without slanting it, and without adding supports.

The new rail 26 mm long along the bottom.

STL attached

[Mel]

Mel,

You asked about a smooth rail to make printing easier.  The smoothed rail shown below has a 45 degree curved chamfer that mates with that of the moderator to pistol rail section.  This means you can print the moderator rear section without slanting it, and without adding supports.

The new rail 26 mm long along the bottom.

STL attached

Great subscriber! Smooth rail, no support needed!
Thank you so much
As i didnt wanna bother, i just printed the last version with support, it took 10 hours and it's true it spends unuseful filament but result is as wished!
Your new version i think is even better because of the no need of support like the previous others, smooth, like it! Energy, time and cost saving!
Im gonna keep it in case i need it.
Now i'll print front part just to complete the suppressor
If you don't mind i will add this smooth version where you posted v6, or maybe you wanna add it yourself
Have a great day!

[subscriber]

Mel,

My attitude is that if someone is interested in version 6 of this moderator based on seeing my post at the BB gun section of the forum, they will keep reading this thread to the end.  But, you are welcome to add the railed version to that thread if you like. 

[Mel]

Mel,

My attitude is that if someone is interested in version 6 of this moderator based on seeing my post at the BB gun section of the forum, they will keep reading this thread to the end.  But, you are welcome to add the railed version to that thread if you like.

Of course you are right, if interested they will read this thread, just wanted to broadcast your great work, i added the link but i can erase the post if requested
Here is how it looks with laser: (it still lacks front part of suppressor)
THANKS

[subscriber]

Perhaps your post to that thread will spark some interest.  I actually don't know how much traffic the BB gun section of the forum gets.  Perhaps my impression that traffic is low there is because I am biased, because my interest is in airguns with rifled barrels. 

I do have a Daisy 880, but have only shot pellets through it. 

[subscriber]

One piece moderator with smooth rail.  STL attached.

[subscriber]

You may have noticed that I reinforced the connection between the rail section and the moderator body in the one piece design (directly above)?  I added that reinforcement to the rear section with the smooth rail, in case you prefer the look and the increased strength and stiffness:  STL attached

[Mel]

You may have noticed that I reinforced the connection between the rail section and the moderator body in the one piece design (directly above)?  I added that reinforcement to the rear section with the smooth rail, in case you prefer the look and the increased strength and stiffness:  STL attached

WoW it looks great!
Reinforced and smooth for easy printing!
I added both new versions where you posted v6.
https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=216184.0
Great work! Thanks a lot!

[Mel]

Finished front part and glued