Daisy Powerline 426 suppressor silencer .stl file for 3d printing

[Mel]

Hi i found Daisy Powerline 415's .stl file at Thingiverse by great Terry Harman.
But i can't find for 426, anyone has it? I would be so thankful. As it is not available anywhere, i would like to print it myself. Thanks

[subscriber]

Mel,

It looks like the pic-rail underneath the 426 muzzle could be used to attach a suppressor.    As on this Buck-Rail product:

https://buck-rail.com/2019/12/14/daisy-powerline-426-silencer/



Below the last image at the above page, is an offer to download the print file.  Now, I get file not found, but perhaps you could contact BR and ask them about it:

https://buck-rail.com/contact-us/

If they don't want to help you, generating a similar design would be easy enough; round or rectangular.

[Mel]

Hi i contacted them, suppressor is out of stock for a long time now and they don't share file anymore.
June 2021 it was shared as DAISY-426-SILENCER.zip but no available anymore. Please anyone?

[subscriber]

Well, Mel

If you can take measurements off the front of your 426, that define the rail's relationship to the center of the bore axis, designing you a round moderator of any reasonable diameter and length should be a simple matter.

If you want a rectangular shape to match the pistol, more dimensions would need to be known.  The length of the rail from the muzzle face is also pertinent.

I suggest 25 mm OD and 100 mm long, so the mod does not look stupidly large.

I don't know how close the rail under your pistol's muzzle is to the official specs:




If you like, I can use the above specs to design you a "tube"; but I need to know the center of the bore axis to a reference surface on the rail.  To keep it simple, perhaps the flat top of the rail (inverted on your pistol) would suffice.  I will be generous with the bore to BB clearance, both to tolerate misalignment, and to allow for BB dispersion from the smooth bore barrel.

You get the STL and print it yourself, or have it done near to your location.    This is a free service that comes with your GTA membership.   Or just because you can't find what you are looking for.

[Mel]

Design is not easy, baffles inside, look great work by Terry Harman with Daisy 415:



Would you also design baffles? Thanks

[subscriber]

Baffles?  Absolutely, yes.  I said "tube" as a euphemism for the device.  It may be that I am making communication difficult by being too clever for my own good; because your English seems excellent.

That sectioned design has a "spigot" interface to the barrel.  I don't know if there is room for that on the 426.  I suspect that we could get away without that, but the more detail you provide, with measurements, the more intricate design can be made - and actually fit.

[Mel]

Ok thanks so much for your help. I'll take measurements and post them asap.

[subscriber]

So, I assumed a 4" length and a 1" width across flats for the 426 Moderator.  Before long I arrived at the design shown below.  Yes, it has no rail adaptor interface yet, so the lower curved aspect might need to shift up or down relative to the bore.  Yes, the design images posted above may have influenced me, despite saying that a rectangle would be harder to do properly.

What is the width of the pistol, across the flats?  I will make the mod width match that.

What about obscuring the front sight?  Do you want clearance for that; or a "sighting trough"?  Or a replacement print sight integral with the moderator?

[Mel]

Here are the measurements
It should look like this

[subscriber]

Thanks, Mel

There is a lot to digest there.

[Mel]

Thank you always
If too difficult, maybe flat 90 degrees design without skirts would be enough if in good contact with the 10.75mm diameter crown/muzzle when attaching the silencer, just some little gas might leak when shooting
Something like this

[subscriber]

Thanks for the simplification suggestion, Mel.   That will help the process, as my brain is a little fried from working on a Leshiy Classic shroud insert in .357, for about 14 hours - below.

So, don't be disappointed if you don't see a complete design for your 426 by tomorrow.

[subscriber]

Mel,

It is possible that some of the other sketches include this information, but could you please measure aspects A to E shown in blue on your sketches, attached below?

The length of the rail from the flat muzzle face (E) would ideally be longer than the sketch suggests.  What is the maximum length feature I can design to engage that rail before it interferes with some other aspect of the pistol?

Could you post some pictures of your pistol; straight from the side, and from the front?

[Mel]

"Could you post some pictures of your pistol; straight from the side, and from the front?"

[subscriber]

I have a design version to offer based on all the info I have.  It may be time to do at least the truncated test print to see if it fits, and if the barrel and moderator bores seem aligned.

A good fit would be rattle free, but snug enough to hold the moderator in place when shooting.  If the test part seems OK, then print the complete moderator.  If the test print does not fit right or the alignment between bores has an obvious vertical shift, I will refine the design.

If everything fits, but the moderator blows off, or moves out of place, I will design a retention feature, using the segments in the pistol's Pic-Rail to secure it.

See images below.  STL files for the moderator and the short test print are attached in one ZIP file - directly below text; above yellow image. 

Print with rear of moderator pointing up, or the internal cones won't print correctly.

[Mel]

WOW Amazing! I will try to print it asap and then comment. Thanks so much again for your interest and work!

[subscriber]

Glad you like it.  Getting it to fit is likely going to take more than a few tries, with it loose in one place and tight in another.

Then the size if the hole at the rear of the mod may need to be increased, so the "nose ring" at the barrel can fit into the moderator.   Or it may work OK, as is...

[Mel]

It's being difficult finding 3d printing service around me, maybe 2 and very expensive, even more if several tests should be made.
I'm thinking in buying a mini 3d printer for pieces 10cm high máximum, would it be possible reducing suppressor from 12 to 9.5cm long? Maybe reducing length at front, or back or in the middle...
If you think it would be worthless because of being too short suppressor, i'll go printing it as is in the city. Thanks again, i'm excited to test your design...

[subscriber]

Mel,

Perhaps I can split the moderator into two parts that are glued together after printing?

Before we can go anywhere, the test print needs to be done to see if it fits. and if the barrel is aligned well enough with the central bore of the moderator.  The retention pic-rail "legs" are 25 mm long,  I don't know if those are too long to fit on your pistol.  Perhaps you could measure the rail length on the pistol, front to rear, in case my rail legs are too long.

I assumed that you had your own printer.  I wonder if there are Daisy 426 owners in Spain, on this forum, with printers?

[Mel]

Mel,

Perhaps I can split the moderator into two parts that are glued together after printing?

Great idea!

Before we can go anywhere, the test print needs to be done to see if it fits. and if the barrel is aligned well enough with the central bore of the moderator. 

You are completely right. 1st i will print test piece

The retention pic-rail "legs" are 25 mm long,  I don't know if those are too long to fit on your pistol.  Perhaps you could measure the rail length on the pistol, front to rear, in case my rail legs are too long.

From pic attached i see length of rail is at least the same as front, 38mm. It wont be a problem

I assumed that you had your own printer.  I wonder if there are Daisy 426 owners in Spain, on this forum, with printers?

Thank you, don't worry, always wanted having a 3d printing myself  , i can afford it. If a decide to buy new one, i will receive it in less than a week, im right now thinking about it...