Daisy 35 musing

[Jayrotx821]

Anyone have the parts diagram for the 35 handy?  I'm wondering if @pblawler PBL power mod will work on the 35 also???

[Jayrotx821]

I called.  Here it is.  FYI

[Earl]

I called.  Here it is.  FYI

Thank you!

[pblawler]

Anyone have the parts diagram for the 35 handy?  I'm wondering if @pblawler PBL power mod will work on the 35 also???

Unfortunately not.  The 35 uses a different type of piston and rod.  I do wonder if I could design a higher compression piston and 3d print it, and it work.  I'll add that to the list of things to try lol.    Material selection is gonna be important.   Not sure if ABS will work.   Maybe ABS with acetone treatment.   If so the piston will need a week or two to cure out after acetone vapor treatment.

[TorqueMaster]

The 880 rifled barrel is drop in after removing a couple inches off the barrel and recrowning!!
  When you order it comes with the valve and trigger assembled SAME as 880.    Measure/compare lengths of old versus new then cut/recrown!
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Under the Bold Heading at the Top of Daisy Gate......Stonykill was the first I had ever heard doing it.

Wendell,
I've read the barrel in a 35 (and probably most Daisies) is "press-fit."  Does the barrel come out easily?  Need heat?  Just pull and twist gently?   I'm liking my stock 35 as a smoothbore bb repeater popping tin cans, but there's always the urge to tinker...    Thanks.

[EdinGa]

The 880 rifled barrel is drop in after removing a couple inches off the barrel and recrowning!!
  When you order it comes with the valve and trigger assembled SAME as 880.    Measure/compare lengths of old versus new then cut/recrown!
...
Under the Bold Heading at the Top of Daisy Gate......Stonykill was the first I had ever heard doing it.

Wendell,
I've read the barrel in a 35 (and probably most Daisies) is "press-fit."  Does the barrel come out easily?  Need heat?  Just pull and twist gently?   I'm liking my stock 35 as a smoothbore bb repeater popping tin cans, but there's always the urge to tinker...    Thanks.

Be careful. I have 2 that are smoothbores and I won't mod them. I bought a third one to mod. 

[pblawler]

The 880 rifled barrel is drop in after removing a couple inches off the barrel and recrowning!!
  When you order it comes with the valve and trigger assembled SAME as 880.    Measure/compare lengths of old versus new then cut/recrown!
...
Under the Bold Heading at the Top of Daisy Gate......Stonykill was the first I had ever heard doing it.

Wendell,
I've read the barrel in a 35 (and probably most Daisies) is "press-fit."  Does the barrel come out easily?  Need heat?  Just pull and twist gently?   I'm liking my stock 35 as a smoothbore bb repeater popping tin cans, but there's always the urge to tinker...    Thanks.

It is pressed.in.  Use a heat gun or torch to lightly heat (no where near red).  Then a firm smack on the valvebody with a piece of wood while holding the barrel and it'll pop out.

[TorqueMaster]

The 880 rifled barrel is drop in after removing a couple inches off the barrel and recrowning!!
  When you order it comes with the valve and trigger assembled SAME as 880.    Measure/compare lengths of old versus new then cut/recrown!
...
Under the Bold Heading at the Top of Daisy Gate......Stonykill was the first I had ever heard doing it.

Wendell,
I've read the barrel in a 35 (and probably most Daisies) is "press-fit."  Does the barrel come out easily?  Need heat?  Just pull and twist gently?   I'm liking my stock 35 as a smoothbore bb repeater popping tin cans, but there's always the urge to tinker...    Thanks.

It is pressed.in.  Use a heat gun or torch to lightly heat (no where near red).  Then a firm smack on the valvebody with a piece of wood while holding the barrel and it'll pop out.

Excellent!  Thanks for the method.

[EdinGa]

Finally got a chance to install the carbon fiber barrel stiffener. I'm using a 10x8mm over the barrel and then a 12x10mm over it. Since I'm still running the full length 880 barrel, I extended the inner tube to the end so it slips through the Buck-Rail adapter for a nice, snug fit. It extends into the moderator but it's still very quiet. I'm still trying to decide how to fill the gap where the front sight assembly was. I didn't get it put together until after dark and it's raining so I'll try to see if accuracy improved tomorrow.

[EdinGa]

It's raining again today, but front porch plinking at sweetgum balls says accuracy is at least as good as before. Maybe I can get it on paper tomorrow.

[Matchstickshooter]

The 880 rifled barrel is drop in after removing a couple inches off the barrel and recrowning!!
  When you order it comes with the valve and trigger assembled SAME as 880.    Measure/compare lengths of old versus new then cut/recrown!
...
Under the Bold Heading at the Top of Daisy Gate......Stonykill was the first I had ever heard doing it.

Wendell,
I've read the barrel in a 35 (and probably most Daisies) is "press-fit."  Does the barrel come out easily?  Need heat?  Just pull and twist gently?   I'm liking my stock 35 as a smoothbore bb repeater popping tin cans, but there's always the urge to tinker...    Thanks.

It is pressed.in.  Use a heat gun or torch to lightly heat (no where near red).  Then a firm smack on the valvebody with a piece of wood while holding the barrel and it'll pop out.

Excellent!  Thanks for the method.

Don't know why you'd take it apart...when you order the rifled 880 barrel from Daisy it comes with the valve/trigger group attached.
That's why after cropping and recrowning the end of the barrel I called it "drop in'...   jmho

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=81383.0

[TorqueMaster]

The 880 rifled barrel is drop in after removing a couple inches off the barrel and recrowning!!
  When you order it comes with the valve and trigger assembled SAME as 880.    Measure/compare lengths of old versus new then cut/recrown!
...
Under the Bold Heading at the Top of Daisy Gate......Stonykill was the first I had ever heard doing it.

Wendell,
I've read the barrel in a 35 (and probably most Daisies) is "press-fit."  Does the barrel come out easily?  Need heat?  Just pull and twist gently?   I'm liking my stock 35 as a smoothbore bb repeater popping tin cans, but there's always the urge to tinker...    Thanks.

It is pressed.in.  Use a heat gun or torch to lightly heat (no where near red).  Then a firm smack on the valvebody with a piece of wood while holding the barrel and it'll pop out.

Excellent!  Thanks for the method.

Don't know why you'd take it apart...when you order the rifled 880 barrel from Daisy it comes with the valve/trigger group attached.
That's why after cropping and recrowning the end of the barrel I called it "drop in'...   jmho

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=81383.0

Because I don't want the 35 barrel or an 880 barrel. 
After a few readings, I figured out your drop-in barrel, was a drop-in barrel/valve/trigger assembly, which isn't what I want.  But figured someone reading this thread could most likely tell me how to swap out just the barrel, if possible, without destroying the valve part.  Just the same, I will probably order an extra 880 (or 35) barrel assy in case I do manage to muck it up.  Daisy parts are gloriously affordable!

[pblawler]

The 880 rifled barrel is drop in after removing a couple inches off the barrel and recrowning!!
  When you order it comes with the valve and trigger assembled SAME as 880.    Measure/compare lengths of old versus new then cut/recrown!
...
Under the Bold Heading at the Top of Daisy Gate......Stonykill was the first I had ever heard doing it.

Wendell,
I've read the barrel in a 35 (and probably most Daisies) is "press-fit."  Does the barrel come out easily?  Need heat?  Just pull and twist gently?   I'm liking my stock 35 as a smoothbore bb repeater popping tin cans, but there's always the urge to tinker...    Thanks.

It is pressed.in.  Use a heat gun or torch to lightly heat (no where near red).  Then a firm smack on the valvebody with a piece of wood while holding the barrel and it'll pop out.

Excellent!  Thanks for the method.

Don't know why you'd take it apart...when you order the rifled 880 barrel from Daisy it comes with the valve/trigger group attached.
That's why after cropping and recrowning the end of the barrel I called it "drop in'...   jmho

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=81383.0

Because I don't want the 35 barrel or an 880 barrel. 
After a few readings, I figured out your drop-in barrel, was a drop-in barrel/valve/trigger assembly, which isn't what I want.  But figured someone reading this thread could most likely tell me how to swap out just the barrel, if possible, without destroying the valve part.  Just the same, I will probably order an extra 880 (or 35) barrel assy in case I do manage to muck it up.  Daisy parts are gloriously affordable!

Take the compression tube off the vb.  Heat up the vb where the barrel inserts but not to much.  No where near getting red.  Then give it a slight whack with a piece of wood on the vb where the compression tube slides on while holding the barrel.  It will pop right off.  Cut the other barrel off the same length as the factory barrel at the breach end.   File off any cut marks and slide it into the valvebody and apply a light coat of JB Weld.  Wait 24 hrs and then reassemble.  I've done this a couple times on a 1977, 922, and an 880.  If my FX 25 cal barrel ever ships ill be doing it again on a 1977.

[Matchstickshooter]

The 880 rifled barrel is drop in after removing a couple inches off the barrel and recrowning!!
  When you order it comes with the valve and trigger assembled SAME as 880.    Measure/compare lengths of old versus new then cut/recrown!
...
Under the Bold Heading at the Top of Daisy Gate......Stonykill was the first I had ever heard doing it.

Wendell,
I've read the barrel in a 35 (and probably most Daisies) is "press-fit."  Does the barrel come out easily?  Need heat?  Just pull and twist gently?   I'm liking my stock 35 as a smoothbore bb repeater popping tin cans, but there's always the urge to tinker...    Thanks.

It is pressed.in.  Use a heat gun or torch to lightly heat (no where near red).  Then a firm smack on the valvebody with a piece of wood while holding the barrel and it'll pop out.

Excellent!  Thanks for the method.

Don't know why you'd take it apart...when you order the rifled 880 barrel from Daisy it comes with the valve/trigger group attached.
That's why after cropping and recrowning the end of the barrel I called it "drop in'...   jmho

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=81383.0

Because I don't want the 35 barrel or an 880 barrel. 
After a few readings, I figured out your drop-in barrel, was a drop-in barrel/valve/trigger assembly, which isn't what I want.  But figured someone reading this thread could most likely tell me how to swap out just the barrel, if possible, without destroying the valve part.  Just the same, I will probably order an extra 880 (or 35) barrel assy in case I do manage to muck it up.  Daisy parts are gloriously affordable!

okay, got it.

[Jayrotx821]

@matchstickshooter what barrel are you going to put in it?

[Matchstickshooter]

@matchstickshooter what barrel are you going to put in it?

 wasn't me

[Jayrotx821]

Sorry

@torquemaster what kind of barrel you looking to put in your 35?

[TorqueMaster]

Sorry

@torquemaster what kind of barrel you looking to put in your 35?

Shhh!  It's a secret!
Ok, I thought I'd try a Daisy 499B barrel, or 2 of them concatenated, to see if I can get satisfactory BB precision at 25 yards or beyond.  It's pretty good with the stock barrel, but still some wild fliers I'd like to try to eliminate. 

[EdinGa]

Sorry

@torquemaster what kind of barrel you looking to put in your 35?

Shhh!  It's a secret!
Ok, I thought I'd try a Daisy 499B barrel, or 2 of them concatenated, to see if I can get satisfactory BB precision at 25 yards or beyond.  It's pretty good with the stock barrel, but still some wild fliers I'd like to try to eliminate.

Are you familiar with Black Barrel Customs on YouTube? He's using carbon fiber shot tubes in Red Ryders. Might be doable in a 35.

[EdinGa]

It was pretty windy here today but my best 25 yard group was with RWS Supermags at 9 pumps. I really need to tear this thing apart again and do some more trigger work.