Quote from: avator on January 20, 2022, 07:14:32 AMI must live in a different world... every young person that has come around here went right to the tinker bench and wanted to know what was going on. First guns they grabbed were the modded ones.thats really interesting. i wonder if it has something to do with environment? i live in a moderately populated mid sized city (boise), maybe people here are used to services and things being done for them more often, which leaks into daily life and how life is approached generally.
I must live in a different world... every young person that has come around here went right to the tinker bench and wanted to know what was going on. First guns they grabbed were the modded ones.
Quote from: sticman77 on January 20, 2022, 11:06:57 AMQuote from: avator on January 20, 2022, 07:14:32 AMI must live in a different world... every young person that has come around here went right to the tinker bench and wanted to know what was going on. First guns they grabbed were the modded ones.thats really interesting. i wonder if it has something to do with environment? i live in a moderately populated mid sized city (boise), maybe people here are used to services and things being done for them more often, which leaks into daily life and how life is approached generally.Yessir, it's easy to make false assumptions when your experience is in a specific bubble. I happen to live in one such bubble being the back woods of lower Alabama. Kids down here grow up in a country/farming life style. They are born tinkerers. They have to be to keep things running. You rarely see a young person down here that don't drive a pickup truck that has been modified to some extreme.
yeah i do definitely live in a bubble as well. its really refreshing to hear that most people out there still like to tinker, given being raised in the right environment.in airguns in particular, i feel like people tinkering is how we've gotten so many advancements
What would be the advantage of a multi shot (magged) pumper?
i would categorize my generation less as disposable minded, but more so instant gratification minded.i had the internet since 13. i had a smart phone since my 20's. everything has literally been at my finger tips most of my life. and i'm getting "old", the younger generation has had instant gratification their whole lives.i think crosman was always be there, but the market for folks who like to tinker is shrinking. there will always be new tinkerers, people who sink $3-400 into a 1377 (like me). but most people i know would want to buy an airgun, and have it work without taking it apart and having to immediately upgrade it. we are a niche market on the forums
I have a couple modded 13xx's, and I spent basically nothing but time to fix the barrels in place, mount optics, and even add a screw-on moderator. If only I could have done these kinds of things when I was a kid, though!
Quote from: Eagle Eye on January 19, 2022, 05:57:50 PMAs said many times already, the tinkers will continue to enjoy the Crosman and all the parts. That's fantastic! I give them credit but if they haven't noticed the "huge majority", not all, of the younger generation (<40 old) and people in general are disposable minded. They want everything instantly at any price. Not to mention they have no brand or USA job loyalty because they grow up on everything from China. So the Dragonfly "Duece" is at $199 for a point and shot rifle. It's built on a 5-10 y.o. "lego" platform. it's a nice looking wood stocked rifle. Synthetic stocks are available. The only negative being 15 pumps to get 730 FPS with lead. Now let's do the math. The 670 FPS stock Crosman 362 - $99; steel breech - $50- 60; and still no possible multishot capability. The only possiblity I know for a magazine is the Gravmag - $50 with shipping. We are at the same price for a Synthetic stock 362. Now who is going to put this together for the masses for free? Plus no wood stock with no fiber optics sights and about 50 - 60 less FPS as advertised? I buy from American companies when ever I can. I own Crosman and Benjamin ariguns. I want Crosman to do better - innovate, improve and make the product they should have for the last 10 years. All these parts have been available for over 2 decades except for the stock. What are your thoughts?Gerry,I just don't see a solid argument for the demise of Crosman due to the release of a Lego gun that does what only this one does. Its a solid shooter as is with no changes and shoots the snot out of similar priced guns BUT adds the beautiful ability of MODS! SAWEET!!!! BTW- I will disagree with your statement about, "the younger generation (<40 old) and people in general are disposable minded.". The kids I see around me are furious at the disposable and are demanding renewable/compostable/recyclable and reusable. The pendulum seems to be in a return swing...
As said many times already, the tinkers will continue to enjoy the Crosman and all the parts. That's fantastic! I give them credit but if they haven't noticed the "huge majority", not all, of the younger generation (<40 old) and people in general are disposable minded. They want everything instantly at any price. Not to mention they have no brand or USA job loyalty because they grow up on everything from China. So the Dragonfly "Duece" is at $199 for a point and shot rifle. It's built on a 5-10 y.o. "lego" platform. it's a nice looking wood stocked rifle. Synthetic stocks are available. The only negative being 15 pumps to get 730 FPS with lead. Now let's do the math. The 670 FPS stock Crosman 362 - $99; steel breech - $50- 60; and still no possible multishot capability. The only possiblity I know for a magazine is the Gravmag - $50 with shipping. We are at the same price for a Synthetic stock 362. Now who is going to put this together for the masses for free? Plus no wood stock with no fiber optics sights and about 50 - 60 less FPS as advertised? I buy from American companies when ever I can. I own Crosman and Benjamin ariguns. I want Crosman to do better - innovate, improve and make the product they should have for the last 10 years. All these parts have been available for over 2 decades except for the stock. What are your thoughts?
I think keeping the 392 Wood and Brass, maybe calling it a "Heritage" would have appealed to more than it does now, considering the other choices out there...
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