What I find the most interesting is that you really dont have to close the pump handle (if the video is accurate) as the piston stops at about 60 degrees from the horizontal. The remaining motion just folds the pump handle. Or am I mistaken?
Quote from: Spacebus on January 18, 2022, 06:24:39 PMQuote from: 2K1TJ on January 18, 2022, 05:40:47 PMQuote from: Ronno6 on January 18, 2022, 02:08:28 PMI do have the original DF, and it takes 2 men and a small boy to pump past about 4 strokes...........Me too, and mine is a beast to pump too. I think I know how to fix it, but I haven't been into it yet. At 6.5 lbs, the new version is getting away from what I like about an airgun. Light weight. I still will probably check it out though, because I'm a sucker for a pumper I may end up getting one just because I already have the PCP pistol and rifle version. The pump linkage looks novel, and it is much easier to put on optics right out of the box compared to the c362 or 392s. If the DF II can make 16+ FPE it will be a winner to me, especially with the handsome German Beech stock. The stock on my CR600/Stormrider hybrid is beautiful and every bit as nice looking as the stock on our Eagle Claw.easy to put on optics AND a moderator! comes pre threaded. i feel like they are building what people have been asking for for a long time
Quote from: 2K1TJ on January 18, 2022, 05:40:47 PMQuote from: Ronno6 on January 18, 2022, 02:08:28 PMI do have the original DF, and it takes 2 men and a small boy to pump past about 4 strokes...........Me too, and mine is a beast to pump too. I think I know how to fix it, but I haven't been into it yet. At 6.5 lbs, the new version is getting away from what I like about an airgun. Light weight. I still will probably check it out though, because I'm a sucker for a pumper I may end up getting one just because I already have the PCP pistol and rifle version. The pump linkage looks novel, and it is much easier to put on optics right out of the box compared to the c362 or 392s. If the DF II can make 16+ FPE it will be a winner to me, especially with the handsome German Beech stock. The stock on my CR600/Stormrider hybrid is beautiful and every bit as nice looking as the stock on our Eagle Claw.
Quote from: Ronno6 on January 18, 2022, 02:08:28 PMI do have the original DF, and it takes 2 men and a small boy to pump past about 4 strokes...........Me too, and mine is a beast to pump too. I think I know how to fix it, but I haven't been into it yet. At 6.5 lbs, the new version is getting away from what I like about an airgun. Light weight. I still will probably check it out though, because I'm a sucker for a pumper
I do have the original DF, and it takes 2 men and a small boy to pump past about 4 strokes...........
I look at the Crosman lego guns as the 10/22s of the airgun world. There are tons of aftermarket parts and endless ways to customize them. I think the 362 will be with us for a long time at this price point.
Quote from: EdinGa on January 18, 2022, 06:11:54 PMI look at the Crosman lego guns as the 10/22s of the airgun world. There are tons of aftermarket parts and endless ways to customize them. I think the 362 will be with us for a long time at this price point. +1
Quote from: Firewalker on January 18, 2022, 07:52:26 PMWhat I find the most interesting is that you really dont have to close the pump handle (if the video is accurate) as the piston stops at about 60 degrees from the horizontal. The remaining motion just folds the pump handle. Or am I mistaken?That's how it 'pears to me......
Hmmmm I don't see Crosman rebranding their stuff out to any Tom, Dick and Harry out there...Keep trying SPA, you may get there someday.BTW... Butterfly might have been a better name...
What would be the advantage of a multi shot (magged) pumper?
As said many times already, the tinkers will continue to enjoy the Crosman and all the parts. That's fantastic! I give them credit but if they haven't noticed the "huge majority", not all, of the younger generation (<40 old) and people in general are disposable minded. They want everything instantly at any price. Not to mention they have no brand or USA job loyalty because they grow up on everything from China. So the Dragonfly "Duece" is at $199 for a point and shot rifle. It's built on a 5-10 y.o. "lego" platform. it's a nice looking wood stocked rifle. Synthetic stocks are available. The only negative being 15 pumps to get 730 FPS with lead. Now let's do the math. The 670 FPS stock Crosman 362 - $99; steel breech - $50- 60; and still no possible multishot capability. The only possiblity I know for a magazine is the Gravmag - $50 with shipping. We are at the same price for a Synthetic stock 362. Now who is going to put this together for the masses for free? Plus no wood stock with no fiber optics sights and about 50 - 60 less FPS as advertised? I buy from American companies when ever I can. I own Crosman and Benjamin ariguns. I want Crosman to do better - innovate, improve and make the product they should have for the last 10 years. All these parts have been available for over 2 decades except for the stock. What are your thoughts?
Quote from: Eagle Eye on January 19, 2022, 05:57:50 PMAs said many times already, the tinkers will continue to enjoy the Crosman and all the parts. That's fantastic! I give them credit but if they haven't noticed the "huge majority", not all, of the younger generation (<40 old) and people in general are disposable minded. They want everything instantly at any price. Not to mention they have no brand or USA job loyalty because they grow up on everything from China. So the Dragonfly "Duece" is at $199 for a point and shot rifle. It's built on a 5-10 y.o. "lego" platform. it's a nice looking wood stocked rifle. Synthetic stocks are available. The only negative being 15 pumps to get 730 FPS with lead. Now let's do the math. The 670 FPS stock Crosman 362 - $99; steel breech - $50- 60; and still no possible multishot capability. The only possiblity I know for a magazine is the Gravmag - $50 with shipping. We are at the same price for a Synthetic stock 362. Now who is going to put this together for the masses for free? Plus no wood stock with no fiber optics sights and about 50 - 60 less FPS as advertised? I buy from American companies when ever I can. I own Crosman and Benjamin ariguns. I want Crosman to do better - innovate, improve and make the product they should have for the last 10 years. All these parts have been available for over 2 decades except for the stock. What are your thoughts?Gerry,I just don't see a solid argument for the demise of Crosman due to the release of a Lego gun that does what only this one does. Its a solid shooter as is with no changes and shoots the snot out of similar priced guns BUT adds the beautiful ability of MODS! SAWEET!!!! BTW- I will disagree with your statement about, "the younger generation (<40 old) and people in general are disposable minded.". The kids I see around me are furious at the disposable and are demanding renewable/compostable/recyclable and reusable. The pendulum seems to be in a return swing...
Quote from: Firewalker on January 19, 2022, 07:49:11 PMQuote from: Eagle Eye on January 19, 2022, 05:57:50 PMAs said many times already, the tinkers will continue to enjoy the Crosman and all the parts. That's fantastic! I give them credit but if they haven't noticed the "huge majority", not all, of the younger generation (<40 old) and people in general are disposable minded. They want everything instantly at any price. Not to mention they have no brand or USA job loyalty because they grow up on everything from China. So the Dragonfly "Duece" is at $199 for a point and shot rifle. It's built on a 5-10 y.o. "lego" platform. it's a nice looking wood stocked rifle. Synthetic stocks are available. The only negative being 15 pumps to get 730 FPS with lead. Now let's do the math. The 670 FPS stock Crosman 362 - $99; steel breech - $50- 60; and still no possible multishot capability. The only possiblity I know for a magazine is the Gravmag - $50 with shipping. We are at the same price for a Synthetic stock 362. Now who is going to put this together for the masses for free? Plus no wood stock with no fiber optics sights and about 50 - 60 less FPS as advertised? I buy from American companies when ever I can. I own Crosman and Benjamin ariguns. I want Crosman to do better - innovate, improve and make the product they should have for the last 10 years. All these parts have been available for over 2 decades except for the stock. What are your thoughts?Gerry,I just don't see a solid argument for the demise of Crosman due to the release of a Lego gun that does what only this one does. Its a solid shooter as is with no changes and shoots the snot out of similar priced guns BUT adds the beautiful ability of MODS! SAWEET!!!! BTW- I will disagree with your statement about, "the younger generation (<40 old) and people in general are disposable minded.". The kids I see around me are furious at the disposable and are demanding renewable/compostable/recyclable and reusable. The pendulum seems to be in a return swing... I think the "younger generation" being referred to are now in their 40's and 50's. More .22 pumpers in the market, the better I say. Competition breeds innovation.
I must live in a different world... every young person that has come around here went right to the tinker bench and wanted to know what was going on. First guns they grabbed were the modded ones.
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