Bottom line? Ditch the Springer and get a PCP for out of the box accuracy. They fire the same as a PB without any "artillery hold" nonsense. Unless you are a masochist, then by all means, use a Springer.
Quote from: Firewalker on June 27, 2021, 11:45:09 PMBottom line? Ditch the Springer and get a PCP for out of the box accuracy. They fire the same as a PB without any "artillery hold" nonsense. Unless you are a masochist, then by all means, use a Springer. THIS !!!!!Springers are per se accurate guns but a lot goes into it to shoot them well and some will never even ever get there,.....I have springers that at times I can shoot real well, others just awful,I put them away perfectly zeroed in then pick 'hem up some time later and my POI is way off, my first shot is usually way off,.....the nature of springers.Do you want a gun that you can pick up and shoot on the money on shot one ? ( when it counts if you suddenly have to shoot a critter )get yourself one of the multitude of good PCPs that are in the market nowadays, a 50 bucks China pump and basically you'll have a much better shooter then your springer for the same money.Shoot springers if you like it's good practice but for me if I want that first shot to count I pick up a PCP 100% of the time
PCPs were once an expensive option, but now you have choices at every price point. My suggestion is to take a look at used, too. We bought this 2009 vintage Benjamin Discovery in 22 with pump and add on moderator used. Got the whole package for $150. Recently did an aftermarket trigger kit, but even the factory trigger was useable. Have had this entry level PCP for 8 years, now, and it's still going strong. Takes 50 pumps to go from min to max pressure and that gives me 20 good shots before the fps drops too much. Power-wise, it's more powerful than any of our springers and, of course, recoil is not an issue. Shoot it like your 22 rimfire. No issues with mysterious changes in POI, either. Can pick it up, anytime, and it shoots the same. With the moderator that had been added by the previous owner, it's very quiet. Accuracy is quite reasonable. It will keep groups under an inch at 50 yards with a variety of pellets when conditions are favorable. There's also a synthetic version of the Discovery called the Maximus. No, it won't compare to our more expensive PCPs for build quality or accuracy, but it's a prefect example of what you can find if you're looking for a gun to keep handy and shoot on the spur of the moment.
Quote from: north country gal on June 29, 2021, 11:46:51 AMPCPs were once an expensive option, but now you have choices at every price point. My suggestion is to take a look at used, too. We bought this 2009 vintage Benjamin Discovery in 22 with pump and add on moderator used. Got the whole package for $150. Recently did an aftermarket trigger kit, but even the factory trigger was useable. Have had this entry level PCP for 8 years, now, and it's still going strong. Takes 50 pumps to go from min to max pressure and that gives me 20 good shots before the fps drops too much. Power-wise, it's more powerful than any of our springers and, of course, recoil is not an issue. Shoot it like your 22 rimfire. No issues with mysterious changes in POI, either. Can pick it up, anytime, and it shoots the same. With the moderator that had been added by the previous owner, it's very quiet. Accuracy is quite reasonable. It will keep groups under an inch at 50 yards with a variety of pellets when conditions are favorable. There's also a synthetic version of the Discovery called the Maximus. No, it won't compare to our more expensive PCPs for build quality or accuracy, but it's a prefect example of what you can find if you're looking for a gun to keep handy and shoot on the spur of the moment. Yes that's about perfect for me. Looking through member classifieds it seems that finding something like that will be the trouble. Thanks for the tip.