Quote from: avator on January 10, 2022, 01:53:29 PMDJ... I can answer a couple questions for you.I was told that the 362 barrel is 22" by the Velocity Outdoor Engineer, John.The muzzle end of the 24" barrel is the same as the muzzle end of the 22" barrel. What ever comes on the stock barrel wit fit on the 24".The advantage of the steel breech is a couple layers deep. One being the dovetail grooves cut into it for mounting scopes, red dots or irons. The other being a solid connection to the lower tube and the barrel. The plastic breech will let the barrel rotate a bit back and forth. The only thing stopping it from completely spinning free is essentially the transfer port.Now for the stock sight... It's a different monster than the steel breech. The plastic breech has a relief in it to accept the factory rear sight. I'm sure it can be rigged but there are after market options that are better.I like a round aperture on the rear sight close to the eye, I cut my teeth shooting at 300 yards with M16/M4 iron sights. The 362 rear sight looks pretty close to that, but I'm definitely open to aftermarket if the price is reasonable and the function is the same. It sounds like the metal "Disco" breech is the way to go, is there a part number or a link for that? Is the 24" Disco barrel the longest option? I'm glad it will accept the hooded front sight, although I'm up for alternatives if there is something better. Are there any other pumpers on the market that could sling a .22 cal 19 grain pellet accurately?
DJ... I can answer a couple questions for you.I was told that the 362 barrel is 22" by the Velocity Outdoor Engineer, John.The muzzle end of the 24" barrel is the same as the muzzle end of the 22" barrel. What ever comes on the stock barrel wit fit on the 24".The advantage of the steel breech is a couple layers deep. One being the dovetail grooves cut into it for mounting scopes, red dots or irons. The other being a solid connection to the lower tube and the barrel. The plastic breech will let the barrel rotate a bit back and forth. The only thing stopping it from completely spinning free is essentially the transfer port.Now for the stock sight... It's a different monster than the steel breech. The plastic breech has a relief in it to accept the factory rear sight. I'm sure it can be rigged but there are after market options that are better.
Quote from: Spacebus on January 10, 2022, 02:10:33 PMQuote from: avator on January 10, 2022, 01:53:29 PMDJ... I can answer a couple questions for you.I was told that the 362 barrel is 22" by the Velocity Outdoor Engineer, John.The muzzle end of the 24" barrel is the same as the muzzle end of the 22" barrel. What ever comes on the stock barrel wit fit on the 24".The advantage of the steel breech is a couple layers deep. One being the dovetail grooves cut into it for mounting scopes, red dots or irons. The other being a solid connection to the lower tube and the barrel. The plastic breech will let the barrel rotate a bit back and forth. The only thing stopping it from completely spinning free is essentially the transfer port.Now for the stock sight... It's a different monster than the steel breech. The plastic breech has a relief in it to accept the factory rear sight. I'm sure it can be rigged but there are after market options that are better.I like a round aperture on the rear sight close to the eye, I cut my teeth shooting at 300 yards with M16/M4 iron sights. The 362 rear sight looks pretty close to that, but I'm definitely open to aftermarket if the price is reasonable and the function is the same. It sounds like the metal "Disco" breech is the way to go, is there a part number or a link for that? Is the 24" Disco barrel the longest option? I'm glad it will accept the hooded front sight, although I'm up for alternatives if there is something better. Are there any other pumpers on the market that could sling a .22 cal 19 grain pellet accurately? The only metal breech I know of that will accept the stock sight is the Baker Airguns aluminum black anodized one. The Disco breech does not have the cut out at the back but can use groove mounted rear sights like the Williams brand ones for .22 rimfire guns. The regular Crosman steel breech is dovetailed for the LPA notch type rear sight. Don't think LPA has a peep style.
DJ, that sight you linked will work on any breech that has the dovetail grooves... basically all steel breeches for this Crosman platform. That Ebay seller is GTA member Davio. His online store is Alchemy Airwerks. He's a great guy... To answer another question of yours.... there is a 26" barrel but I can't remember which gun or the part number for it. I think someone mentioned it in this or one of the other 362 threads.I actually considered the 26" barrel but decided I didn't want that much barrel hanging out there.
Quote from: avator on January 10, 2022, 03:20:18 PMDJ, that sight you linked will work on any breech that has the dovetail grooves... basically all steel breeches for this Crosman platform. That Ebay seller is GTA member Davio. His online store is Alchemy Airwerks. He's a great guy... To answer another question of yours.... there is a 26" barrel but I can't remember which gun or the part number for it. I think someone mentioned it in this or one of the other 362 threads.I actually considered the 26" barrel but decided I didn't want that much barrel hanging out there.I figure if I'm going for a long barrel, might as well go really long. Then I can swap the original back if I want something shorter. Is this the correct "breech kit"? https://www.crosman.com/product/crosman-steel-breech-kit-22If not, can you link the correct one? I'm going to snoop around and see if I can find the 26" barrel as well. Would you say the anodized Baker Airgun aluminum breech is any better or worse than the Crosman steel breech? I love aluminum and would prefer that if it's just as good in quality. Plus the ability to use the factory peep is kind of nice, then I could get the fancy Williams sight later on. Edit 2: I just stumbled upon the Magnum Air Power eBay store. This is a deep rabbit hole for a person like me who likes to tinker with stuff. How hard is a valve swap on a pumper? I assume there aren't any aftermarket valves out for the c362 yet.
Quote from: Spacebus on January 10, 2022, 03:23:52 PMQuote from: avator on January 10, 2022, 03:20:18 PMDJ, that sight you linked will work on any breech that has the dovetail grooves... basically all steel breeches for this Crosman platform. That Ebay seller is GTA member Davio. His online store is Alchemy Airwerks. He's a great guy... To answer another question of yours.... there is a 26" barrel but I can't remember which gun or the part number for it. I think someone mentioned it in this or one of the other 362 threads.I actually considered the 26" barrel but decided I didn't want that much barrel hanging out there.I figure if I'm going for a long barrel, might as well go really long. Then I can swap the original back if I want something shorter. Is this the correct "breech kit"? https://www.crosman.com/product/crosman-steel-breech-kit-22If not, can you link the correct one? I'm going to snoop around and see if I can find the 26" barrel as well. Would you say the anodized Baker Airgun aluminum breech is any better or worse than the Crosman steel breech? I love aluminum and would prefer that if it's just as good in quality. Plus the ability to use the factory peep is kind of nice, then I could get the fancy Williams sight later on. Edit 2: I just stumbled upon the Magnum Air Power eBay store. This is a deep rabbit hole for a person like me who likes to tinker with stuff. How hard is a valve swap on a pumper? I assume there aren't any aftermarket valves out for the c362 yet.Hold up...These barrel we have been discussing are .177 barrels. If you plan to swap back and forth between .177 and stock .22 you'll need to have a bolt of each size as well.
I love the Baker breech because is so light weight, but it has the stock sight cutout that is larger than the steel ones making it harder to mount the rail mount type peep sight you linked. The Disco has no cut out and the regular steel breech has a smaller dovetail that allow mounting at the back better with a peep.
The Baker has just a little bit of groove at the rear to catch the groove in the sight. It should be able to catch the base there, but I have not tried it. You need a smaller head bolt than this one or countersink one to slide the sight over it. Don't know if that sight would fit over the flat for the stock type sight.
Quote from: Van on January 10, 2022, 04:16:31 PM The Baker has just a little bit of groove at the rear to catch the groove in the sight. It should be able to catch the base there, but I have not tried it. You need a smaller head bolt than this one or countersink one to slide the sight over it. Don't know if that sight would fit over the flat for the stock type sight. Thanks, now I see why it probably won't work out. I guess if I get a 362 I'll stick with the factory setup for a while and decide if the steel breech is worth it to use the Williams sight. It comes out to almost the price of the whole rifle to go with the steel breech and the Williams sight.
Quote from: Spacebus on January 10, 2022, 04:28:38 PMQuote from: Van on January 10, 2022, 04:16:31 PM The Baker has just a little bit of groove at the rear to catch the groove in the sight. It should be able to catch the base there, but I have not tried it. You need a smaller head bolt than this one or countersink one to slide the sight over it. Don't know if that sight would fit over the flat for the stock type sight. Thanks, now I see why it probably won't work out. I guess if I get a 362 I'll stick with the factory setup for a while and decide if the steel breech is worth it to use the Williams sight. It comes out to almost the price of the whole rifle to go with the steel breech and the Williams sight.This is true.If I did not already have the steel breech along with the other things, besides the $25 barrel, to do what I want to do with this gun I would not be interested in it at all.
Thanks, now I see why it probably won't work out. I guess if I get a 362 I'll stick with the factory setup for a while and decide if the steel breech is worth it to use the Williams sight. It comes out to almost the price of the whole rifle to go with the steel breech and the Williams sight.
Quote from: Spacebus on January 10, 2022, 04:54:36 PMThanks, now I see why it probably won't work out. I guess if I get a 362 I'll stick with the factory setup for a while and decide if the steel breech is worth it to use the Williams sight. It comes out to almost the price of the whole rifle to go with the steel breech and the Williams sight.
Every time I look up parts for the 362 I find another source of upgrade parts for the Crosman 13/22 series guns. What else is compatible besides the breech and barrels? What is the advantage of going with a LW barrel?
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