NEW Crosman 362

[K.O.]

Bill I think  the New In house barrels are better barrels... I do not know if the 24" Barrels (disco/1760) are still old stock or new in house tho...

well anyways here is the maxi .177 evp for the 26" .177 barrel #...

down the road a bit I am thinking/dreamin' of ways to get about .2ci-24ci of valve volume... and pump 16-20 pumps

then I could call one of mine the K.O. 362-17 and of course it would be sending the JSB K.O.( ) 10g & 13.4g and other .177 slugs..
Heavy pellets also of course...

I do think about 18-20 fpe is achievable at that valve volume with the 10g pellets and slugs...with about that valve volume and 2100 swept volume was able to get 7.9g to 905 fps with a 16" barrel... and that is with about 1" less swept volume...

[avator]

Great folks in the VO (Crosman) parts department...
1760SE-001 24" .177 barrel on the way. $27 and change shipped.

[Wayne52]

Crosman sure does have excellent prices on their barrels !!!  I've bought a couple of them before.  All their parts prices are very reasonable, some places think barrels are worth a fortune, a good example would be Lothar Walther, they're very expensive for what you get in my opinion.

[avator]

I have been hear reports of barrels not qualifying for the $4 shipping.... debunked !!
Shipping on this barrel was $4.
I also believe that the 'SE' in the part number signifies it is one of the newer 'in house' made barrels.
1760SE-001
Reason being, if you look up the evp for the original 1760 rifle, the part number for the barrel is 1760-001.
The Discovery .177 barrel is the 1760SE-001.

[Wayne52]

Not only that Bill that barrel is ready to install when you get it too, no machining needed.

[avator]

Not only that Bill that barrel is ready to install when you get it too, no machining needed.

Yep, you got that right. Just unbox, clean and install with the steel breech and another goodie or 2 I have ready... 

[Van]

  I read that the Disco .177 and .22 barrels have a flat milled on top toward the back for the set screw on the Disco sight sleeve to tighten to.  If so, you might want the sleeve and sight from a Disco to cover the flat or just live with it.  I used 2260 barrels on my guns, without the milled flat, so I don't know for sure.

[avator]

  I read that the Disco .177 and .22 barrels have a flat milled on top toward the back for the set screw on the Disco sight sleeve to tighten to.  If so, you might want the sleeve and sight from a Disco to cover the flat or just live with it.  I used 2260 barrels on my guns, without the milled flat, so I don't know for sure.

It don't matter, I have a whole different 'thingie' for the muzzle end of it....   

[Van]

    The sleeve flat is at the back rear sight location in front of the breech.  Another forum said it is a weak spot if you don't use the steel sleeve over it and could bend the barrel some.  Don't know if this is true or not.  If I get a 362, for me I would need the sight out on the barrel anyway as I have trouble focusing iron sights that are at the back of the breech on a rifle other than a peep.     
 

[avator]

Ok, ok... my bad, I thought you meant the bevel sight locating bevel at the muzzle end.
I suppose it could be and issue if strained but out of the 20 or so barrels I've had, and many with that notch, I've never had an issue.

[Rabbit\Squirrel Killer]

Ok, ok... my bad, I thought you meant the bevel sight locating bevel at the muzzle end.
I suppose it could be and issue if strained but out of the 20 or so barrels I've had, and many with that notch, I've never had an issue.

I have never had a problem caused by it either. I don't like the fact that it does look like something is missing (it is), but it's not something that bothers me too much.

[Van]

  I just thought folks should know it will be there on top of a Disco barrel.  I guess the old 1760-001 is not available anymore.  I use the steel sleeves when I need to mount a sight out front of the breech on Crosman barrels. They can add support and cover the flat even without the sight if desired.   I used a muzzle loader adjustable sight on this one.    They do need the steel breech to work though. 

[Rabbit\Squirrel Killer]

  I just thought folks should know it will be there on top of a Disco barrel.  I guess the old 1760-001 is not available anymore.  I use the steel sleeves when I need to mount a sight out front of the breech on Crosman barrels. They can add support and cover the flat even without the sight if desired.   I used a muzzle loader adjustable sight on this one.   

The sleeve requires the "Disco breech" too if I remember right.

[avator]

I have a couple of those sleeves around. I also have some black air tube that is the perfect ID. I've used it before as a faux shroud affect. Purely cosmetic. I may use that or, I also have some of the black anodized spacer. Either way, it will be dressed up to make it my own... 

[Spacebus]

Well, this thread is really helping me move towards the 362. I have one in my cart on the Crosman website with the 10% off coupon code. It's cold outside and carrying around a hand pump or compressor is less appealing, I must admit.

I see the OEM barrel is 21", is the Disco 24" barrel compatible with the OEM hooded front sight? I'm wanting to stay iron sights, or at the most a red dot CCO/holographic type sight. This will be for recreational shooting at 10-35 yards. Could also see some use for pests, but I have a very light .22 PR900/CR600 hybrid and a .25 Eagle Claw for this purpose always ready to go.

What is the advantage to the steel breech?

Is it easy to attach sling swivels?

While I'm not really interested in super high power numbers, I do want this thing to shoot my cast 19 grain NOE pellets well. I am planning on ordering a few pounds of tin for casting lighter alloy or non lead pellets. This should help increase the BC of my cast pellets and bring the weight down to what the rifle was designed for out of the box. Casting in pure tin my pellets should be between 12-13 grains, pretty close to the pellets included with the rifle.

All that being said, I am curious to see how the hot rod c362's turn out. Could be something I do in the future, these are pretty affordable rifles.

[Van]

  I just thought folks should know it will be there on top of a Disco barrel.  I guess the old 1760-001 is not available anymore.  I use the steel sleeves when I need to mount a sight out front of the breech on Crosman barrels. They can add support and cover the flat even without the sight if desired.   I used a muzzle loader adjustable sight on this one.   

The sleeve requires the "Disco breech" too if I remember right.

  I use the sleeve on regular steel breeches as the set screw holds it just fine.  The Disco breech front is inlet more and does let it set further inside though.  If converting from plastic I would get the Disco breech and sleeve together from Crosman to use the Disco barrels.

[Wayne52]

Mine will be here tomorrow

[Spacebus]

  I just thought folks should know it will be there on top of a Disco barrel.  I guess the old 1760-001 is not available anymore.  I use the steel sleeves when I need to mount a sight out front of the breech on Crosman barrels. They can add support and cover the flat even without the sight if desired.   I used a muzzle loader adjustable sight on this one.   

The sleeve requires the "Disco breech" too if I remember right.

  I use the sleeve on regular steel breeches as the set screw holds it just fine.  The Disco breech front is inlet more and does let it set further inside though.  If converting from plastic I would get the Disco breech and sleeve together from Crosman to use the Disco barrels.

I have no machining capabilities. Is it possible to DIY install a front sight on a 24" disco barrel to use the factory tombstone rear sight with the disco breech? I have a cordless 1/2" chuck drill and a "drill press" attachment, and that's the limit of my capabilities.

[avator]

DJ... I can answer a couple questions for you.
I was told that the 362 barrel is 22" by the Velocity Outdoor Engineer, John.
The muzzle end of the 24" barrel is the same as the muzzle end of the 22" barrel. What ever comes on the stock barrel wit fit on the 24".
The advantage of the steel breech is a couple layers deep. One being the dovetail grooves cut into it for mounting scopes, red dots or irons. The other being a solid connection to the lower tube and the barrel. The plastic breech will let the barrel rotate a bit back and forth. The only thing stopping it from completely spinning free is essentially the transfer port.
Now for the stock sight... It's a different monster than the steel breech. The plastic breech has a relief in it to accept the factory rear sight. I'm sure it can be rigged but there are after market options that are better.

[Spacebus]

DJ... I can answer a couple questions for you.
I was told that the 362 barrel is 22" by the Velocity Outdoor Engineer, John.
The muzzle end of the 24" barrel is the same as the muzzle end of the 22" barrel. What ever comes on the stock barrel wit fit on the 24".
The advantage of the steel breech is a couple layers deep. One being the dovetail grooves cut into it for mounting scopes, red dots or irons. The other being a solid connection to the lower tube and the barrel. The plastic breech will let the barrel rotate a bit back and forth. The only thing stopping it from completely spinning free is essentially the transfer port.
Now for the stock sight... It's a different monster than the steel breech. The plastic breech has a relief in it to accept the factory rear sight. I'm sure it can be rigged but there are after market options that are better.

I like a round aperture on the rear sight close to the eye, I cut my teeth shooting at 300 yards with M16/M4 iron sights. The 362 rear sight looks pretty close to that, but I'm definitely open to aftermarket if the price is reasonable and the function is the same.

It sounds like the metal "Disco" breech is the way to go, is there a part number or a link for that? Is the 24" Disco barrel the longest option? I'm glad it will accept the hooded front sight, although I'm up for alternatives if there is something better.

Are there any other pumpers on the market that could sling a .22 cal 19 grain pellet accurately?