46M available from Pyramid

[Frank in Fairfield]

My partner in Kansas (#54) hasn’t received his notice yet!

[Stinger177]

Just got a recall notice.  I have requested a detailed explanation.

I had read of that before. Good to know that they are following up on it.

I would send it in.

 

[Frank in Fairfield]

But.....
For sale on the AA:

http://www.airguns.net/classifieds/show_ad.php?adNum=197977&adSort=&StartingAd=0&NumberOfPages=3

I know this is not the classifieds but, it do look nice..

[7624452]

Just got a recall notice.  I have requested a detailed explanation.

I had read of that before. Good to know that they are following up on it.

I would send it in.

 

I want to know what is wrong with it and how they  propose to fix it.  Where did you read about it ?

[Stinger177]

But.....
For sale on the AA:

http://www.airguns.net/classifieds/show_ad.php?adNum=197977&adSort=&StartingAd=0&NumberOfPages=3

I know this is not the classifieds but, it do look nice..

Yes, I noticed that this morning.

I think it was discussed in this thread that the original 46M from Baikal is a preferred item.

I've owned one for about 15 years now and have never had an issue with it.

Of course, having the original box and tool would be nice. They also come up occasionally on Gunbroker and eBay.

Make note if they are a 46 or 46M. The 46M has a longer stroke.

 

[Stinger177]

Just got a recall notice.  I have requested a detailed explanation.

I had read of that before. Good to know that they are following up on it.

I would send it in.

 

I want to know what is wrong with it and how they  propose to fix it.  Where did you read about it ?

I don't recall offhand. It may have been within this very thread.

I think they fit it with a stronger spring, but don't take my word on that.

[Cstar]

Received the email today with a shipping label. Mine is on its way back to PA.

 

Just got a recall notice.  I have requested a detailed explanation.

I had read of that before. Good to know that they are following up on it.

I would send it in.

 

I want to know what is wrong with it and how they  propose to fix it.  Where did you read about it ?

I don't recall offhand. It may have been within this very thread.

I think they fit it with a stronger spring, but don't take my word on that.

Spring?  This is a single stroke pneumatic. Isn’t that just air compression?

Corky

[hoteltwofive]

Just received my notice as well. 

Curious to see how many of these they have sold that need to be sent back.

[subscriber]

I want to know what is wrong with it and how they  propose to fix it.  Where did you read about it ?

This single stroke pneumatic pistol has the ability to adjust the clearance between the piston and the end of the compression chamber.  Air Venturi are going to adjust them so that the piston is just in contact with the end of the cylinder at the end of the charging stroke.  This is necessary to get the pistol to shoot at its rated velocity. 

Why is this necessary?  See quoted text below:

Just found out that the guns are de-tuned for export out of Russia (and to be clear, they are made and assembled in Russia, not here). And need to have the power restored before shipping. Sadly, for many of these guns that was not done before they began shipping out. But those who have purchased will be contacted by our customer service team and we will get them back and restore the power.

Sorry for the inconvenience. If any one has any further questions, feel free to shoot me a PM.

From my understanding they need to be detuned below 3J to clear customs to get out of Russia. IZH may have been a different story since they’re a firearms manufacturer on top of their airgun business. Export permits are likely different for them, been a long time since they were brought in so it’s hard to say.

FWIW, Ataman does the same thing. So it’s not uncommon among airgun manufacturers from Russia.

The Pyramyd Air rep on GTA told us the above.  It is echoed here by what appears to be a PA employee as a comment on a user posting, here:  www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Air_Venturi_AV_46M_Match_Air_Pistol/5257. 
Click the link, then click on the Customer reviews tab.

By Val from USA on 2020-12-25   

Hello everyone, Air Venturi is taking care of the products that shipped that did not have their power restored. When product is shipped from Russia, normally airguns are detuned to be under 3J to allow for a faster export process. Due to a human error the product got approved for shipping before the power was restored. All customers are being contacted and product will be returned and power restored.

[Stinger177]

Received the email today with a shipping label. Mine is on its way back to PA.

 

Just got a recall notice.  I have requested a detailed explanation.

I had read of that before. Good to know that they are following up on it.

I would send it in.

 

I want to know what is wrong with it and how they  propose to fix it.  Where did you read about it ?

I don't recall offhand. It may have been within this very thread.

I think they fit it with a stronger spring, but don't take my word on that.

Spring?  This is a single stroke pneumatic. Isn’t that just air compression?

Corky

Yep. I plead guilty to being stupid.

 

[Cstar]

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Yep. I plead guilty to being stupid.

 
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It’s not a very exclusive club. Ive been a member for years!

Corky

[buellm2]

Flash sale on AV-46M at Airgun Depot.   $479.99  until 13:30  EST.  If the review comments were a little more positive, I would immediately take it.   Is it worth it?    I'm pretty happy with my AV-V10

[buellm2]

Whoops sorry, I just read the fine print and the flash sale was only from 1230 to 1330------Yesterday.   At least I no longer have to agonize over making a good decision.

[Stinger177]

Whoops sorry, I just read the fine print and the flash sale was only from 1230 to 1330------Yesterday.   At least I no longer have to agonize over making a good decision.

I've been mulling over your first query all day long since I read it this morning.

IMO, I think you may have dodged a bullet. and for the following reasons:

The AV-46M is a re-pop of the original Baikal MP 46M.

They have done the same thing with a re-pop of the IZH MP60/61 in the form of the Airventuri AR5 which IMHO falls far short of the original Baikal verions.

Being blessed to own an original Baikal 46M, AND the rifle version of it (MP532), plus several IZH 60/61's (including the steel breech versions) I can only say honestly, that if I did not already own an original Baikal 46M I might be tempted to buy AV46, but again, owning the original of several Baikal, I would stand down from the AV projects.

It's my opinion that AV is attempting to market something that, although assembled on a very solid platform, is somehow falling short. Consider also the fact that they are recalling them for an over-sight upgrade.

Up until last Spring, Krale was still selling the Baikal 46M. Krale was the last known resource (to my knowledge) for those original Baikal's but they stopped listing them around July of this last year.

I dunno. Prehaps AV is really on to something here, and hopefully they will come through and provide the market with a truly outstanding pistol in the form of the original Baikal MP46M.

My first impression though, is that they put a laminated grip (lipstick) on some stock over-run of parts.

The original Baikal MP46M is NOT a pig!!

Get one for a few hundred bucks more if you can, but make sure it is a 46M (not the shorter stroke 46) and try to get one with the box and papers.

$600 for the genuine is a pretty good price FYI.

The originals are FANTASTIC pistols!!





HTH

 

[subscriber]

Up until last Spring, Krale was still selling the Baikal 46M. Krale was the last known resource (to my knowledge) for those original Baikal's but they stopped listing them around July of this last year.

Click this link, and notice the green "in stock sign" for the original 46M:  https://www.krale.shop/us/baikal-mp-46m/

[Stinger177]

Up until last Spring, Krale was still selling the Baikal 46M. Krale was the last known resource (to my knowledge) for those original Baikal's but they stopped listing them around July of this last year.

Click this link, and notice the green "in stock sign" for the original 46M:  https://www.krale.shop/us/baikal-mp-46m/

Well, sure enough!!

Before I posted my last, I looked at Krale just to make sure that I was correct. I only searched for air pistols, and the 46M did not come up.

Do a search on Krales website for MP46M and sure enough there it is!!

Apparently they are still available!!

If I didn't already own one, I would jump on that!!

Far and away better than that AV offering!!

Forget the lipstick laminated grips. Get this one!!

Thank you subscriber for posting that!!

JOY!!!   

[Stinger177]

Up until last Spring, Krale was still selling the Baikal 46M. Krale was the last known resource (to my knowledge) for those original Baikal's but they stopped listing them around July of this last year.

Click this link, and notice the green "in stock sign" for the original 46M:  https://www.krale.shop/us/baikal-mp-46m/

Subscriber

As I said previously, thank you for posting that link!!

Now, if you can find me another Baikal MP532, it would be greatly appreciated!!

 

[Frank in Fairfield]

Nice looking one on the AA, too.

[Stinger177]

Nice looking one on the AA, too.

Saw that one, as was previously discussed in this thread. But thanks for the reminder.

For the few extra bucks, I'd rather have a brand new one, in the box, and with all the tools, warranty, etc.  (Uh yeah - warranty with Krale, right? But you won't need a warranty if you buy that 46M new!!).

I am sooo tempted to buy one for my brother Alan........

If only I had not already bought something last week. 

 

[subscriber]

Now, if you can find me another Baikal MP532, it would be greatly appreciated!!

For sale in India for $1290, unless it is a scam (insist on paypal).  It may be old stock, because it is expensive in a poor country:  https://www.justhunters.pk/BAIKAL-Airgun-MP-532-SPORTING-4.5-Cal.

Here the user manual to whet your appetited:  https://issuu.com/eaacorp/docs/mp-532-manual_9731307933144f