DAR Gen II is now available

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Guys
Here is some more info I pulled from the DAR main posts,
(will be shared on the Dar mod post also).

Hammer spring Dimensions,

Gen II = 177 Cal
.425" = O/S dia,
.042" = wire dia,
1.870" = length,
17-18# weight rating

Gen ? = 22 cal
.426" = O/S dia,
.047" = wire dia,
1.870" = length

Gen ? = 25 cal
.475" = O/S dia,
.059" = wire dia,
1.750" = length

Gen? = 25 cal
.474" = O/S dia,
.058" = wire dia,
1.683" = length

Gen ? = 25 cal
.460" = O/S dia,
.058" = wire dia,
1.656" = length

So far, for the 25 cal's the spring dimensions are very close..........

HTH's
Don

[Firewalker]

I'll pull spring/a tonight, I have a .25 in the vice already.

[singleshotcajun]

Finally getting consistent FPS in my DAR .22 with balance between poppet spring and striker spring . Averaging 856 FPS with standard deviation of 4.6.  CPHP near the butter zone of 25 ft pounds, very pleased.

[crazyhorse1]

Joe sent an email earlier today and they have completed work on my DAR .22. It is shipping UPS today and should have rifle by Friday. New o-rings and new shroud so that should cover leaks and clipping. He said they pressure checked and tested it for clipping.

Rich

[tracker1955]

Hope it works well for you this time. If they can get these trouble-free, it can still be a contender with the Avenger.

[crazyhorse1]

I'm optimistic that will be the case. I have been nailing some squirrels on my property...mostly close range stuff 15-25  yards...even nailed one this morning with my 1377...flipped him up in the air...some young squirrels out roaming around. Be fun to get the DAR out for some longer range shots. I had planned to get out with the Avenger .22 but must wait for the DAR now.

Scheduled delivery 4/8/21 according to UPS...I only live 120 miles from AIM Sports.

[Dan H]

I guess I will call DAR tomorrow and check again they said early last week they were going to send me back my gun the next day with new air tube assembly , I have no shipping notice sent , my .25 still works perfect super accurate  , but I don't really trust it with the o rings they put in these guns , shave the poppet down a bit to make it seal better with larger contact area , duro 90 o rings  ,and this gun will be the king of the 3-400 buck guns .... Avenger is just made way to plastic -cheap quality wise  for my taste ... 

My new AEA challenger .357  is a flipping beast shooting 94 g at 960fps !   

Today I ordered the AEA .30 Challenger bullpup with 32 inch barrel , Bin tells me they have this gun shooting Nielson slugs 65 g at that same 960 fps + level  , he is sending 2 hammer springs one for pellets 44-50 g , and the other is for slugs 65 g plus range ...

[crazyhorse1]

Is that Bin LU of Hitman Firearms in TYNGSBOROUGH, Mass.?
Just wondering.

[crazyhorse1]

DAR arrived UPS at 2:15 pm today and I re-zeroed at 26 yards. I have a reaction target at 35 yards and was hitting the 1"  center paddle on every shot. Very happy with the way it is shooting now.

[tracker1955]

Have been following this thread, glad you got it back Rich. All new orings and such you should be good to go for a while now.

[mrbulk]

I am planning out how I want to assemble my DARtact, or is that TactDAR? Any way, I laid it out tonight to look at the distances and shouldered up a mockup, decided on grip location and but stock location. Next, I will turn the tube down to get rid of the threads on the buttstock, turn some Al tube down to friction fit the stock, turn it down to fit the threaded hammer spring cavity, thread inside and out so I can fit a plug inside the tube for the hammer spring.

Then I need to cut and form a single piece of Al that will fit the grip and fit the fire control group cavity on the back end, drill and pin it, drill and thread the grip screw then send it off to get TIG welded to the tube.

The end result should be a sub 5# (without scope) DAR with collapsible stock for hunting that I can throw in the UTV.

Here is the mockup so far.

How tactical!

[crazyhorse1]

Have been following this thread, glad you got it back Rich. All new orings and such you should be good to go for a while now.

Today I'll get it back on the chrony just to verify numbers I got from last December.

Rich

[Firewalker]

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How tactical!
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True that! I really want to cut all the weight I can and get a comfortable grip on it. I also found a folding stock adapter on aliexpress might give me an even shorter version if I want.

[Nvreloader]

That sounds good Rich,
By any chance did they give you a list of the "O" ring sizes?

I'll be following along as I have a 22 cal now also........... to go along with my 17 cal,
I may even get a 25 cal to complete the set............

Thanks,
Don

[crazyhorse1]

That sounds good Rich,
By any chance did they give you a list of the "O" ring sizes?

I'll be following along as I have a 22 cal now also........... to go along with my 17 cal,
I may even get a 25 cal to complete the set............

Thanks,
Don

  No info on o-ring sizes and I did not ask. Think they mentioned months ago there would be a schematic with parts list. Do you think they are metric ? I plan to just duplicate the ones that came in the bag and try to upgrade them size for size.
I have two custom rifles that were built/converted back in 2009 that are still going strong that I competed with in FT and Benchrest... same goes for my R9 .20 cal that Paul Watts tuned.
I do not view this DAR as a precision rifle for competition but it should at least hold up for casual shooting/hunting.

Rich

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Rich
I am measuring 2 different sets of "O" rings, 1-177 cal and 1-22 cal, both are Gen II guns,
bought in Nov/Dec of 2020, but there is a difference between the 17 and 22 calibers,
in sizes and amounts etc.

IMHO, I do believe that they are metric, mine has been squished up in a package,
and I have them setting in a cup hot water to soften up and hopefully return to their round form,
so I can get a better/accurate size on them.

I'll post the info when I get it etc................Waiting on my "O" ring package................

I do believe that these will make a good accurate maximum effort hunting rifles etc.
Only time will tell.

Tia,
Don

[RDB]

I think they're a great rifle. My reg has been outstanding.  I just pulled mine from its box last night after setting idle for a week to run it over the chronograph. 

909 907 910. Don't get much better than that.

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Rod

What caliber?  Pellets or slugs?

Tia,
Don

[singleshotcajun]

Curious, have any of you measured the depth of the poppet spring retaining nut before unscrewing it. Mine was at .100” deep . When I reassembled I went .200” deep and I think that helped seal my rifle. Found a balance with the striker spring and shooting very consistent and not leaking. Just wondering what the average factory setting is and what you guys are doing.

[RDB]

Rod

What caliber?  Pellets or slugs?

Tia,
Don

Its a 22. Its currently tuned to shoot the crosmans.  Reg is set to 105-110 bar with an ssg.  It would make a good slug candidate.  I opened everything up when i first got it and went through it. With the reg at 140-150 it had no problem pushing 18 jsb up past 960. Shes in the classifieds now, and thought I'd run it over the chronograph just to check the tune was holding where i set it. The rifle still impresses me for the money.