DAR Gen II is now available

[Insanity]

.25 oem spring is .474 x .058 x 1.683

[nervoustrigger]

.25 oem spring is .474 x .058 x 1.683

For what it's worth, my gen1 in .25 cal measured 0.475 x 0.059 x 1.75 so just a smidge longer.

I changed it to a substantially shorter and somewhat stiffer one (0.475 x 0.062 x 1.35).  Pretty sure I changed it out because I couldn't back off of the preload enough to get to the knee for a ~1600psi setpoint.  I would have simply cut it but I lucked out and found a candidate in my spring assortment.

[RDB]

My stock measures .426 x .047 x 1.87

[Wayne52]

I did get through on the phone with Joe at Aimsports and I've got what I need coming in the next several days . . . . very cool

[Nvreloader]

Wayne
I am glad you got thru as I haven't been able too, tried numerous times for the last couple 3 hrs,
I get 1 ring and then the phone goes dead.....calling this number = 909-923-7883, it's listed to southern Calif.

Don

[Bob Pratl]

I did get through on the phone with Joe at Aimsports and I've got what I need coming in the next several days . . . . very cool

Glad to hear that they are following through on their warranty.

[crazyhorse1]

Wayne
I am glad you got thru as I haven't been able too, tried numerous times for the last couple 3 hrs,
I get 1 ring and then the phone goes dead.....calling this number = 909-923-7883, it's listed to southern Calif.

Don

Try this Don.

909-923-2228

[Nvreloader]

Rich

Thanks for that number, it went thru on the 1st try,
talked to Joe for a few minutes and he is sending the parts I need, to fix the 17 Dar..............
Now I had better order some Heavy weight ammo for it............ ,
 
I have several different cans of the lite weight ammo for testing,
had a couple of Ranchers/Farm owners contact me to clean out the Flying Rats, HS and Starlings,
and Sage Bunny's in the hay fields...................

Thank you,
Don

[crazyhorse1]

Rich

Thanks for that number, it went thru on the 1st try,
talked to Joe for a few minutes and he is sending the parts I need, to fix the 17 Dar..............
Now I had better order some Heavy weight ammo for it............ ,
 
I have several different cans of the lite weight ammo for testing,
had a couple of Ranchers/Farm owners contact me to clean out the Flying Rats, HS and Starlings,
and Sage Bunny's in the hay fields...................

Thank you,
Don

I went thru the same drill as you. Glad to have helped out. My good deed for the day. Lol.

Rich

[Firewalker]

I am planning out how I want to assemble my DARtact, or is that TactDAR? Any way, I laid it out tonight to look at the distances and shouldered up a mockup, decided on grip location and but stock location. Next, I will turn the tube down to get rid of the threads on the buttstock, turn some Al tube down to friction fit the stock, turn it down to fit the threaded hammer spring cavity, thread inside and out so I can fit a plug inside the tube for the hammer spring.

Then I need to cut and form a single piece of Al that will fit the grip and fit the fire control group cavity on the back end, drill and pin it, drill and thread the grip screw then send it off to get TIG welded to the tube.

The end result should be a sub 5# (without scope) DAR with collapsible stock for hunting that I can throw in the UTV.

Here is the mockup so far.

[RDB]

Very cool David!  Can't wait to see the finished product.

[Nvreloader]

I don't believe this,
Well if that don't jerk the slack out of your shorts,

Received a email from Mike,
Stating:
You can send your rifle in for full warranty replacement.
We will not have a diagram anytime soon and taking the gun that far apart will void your warranty.
-Mike

I can see that Dar won't honor their warranty, as I have already replaced a couple of leaking "O" rings and PSI gage, and still the leaks continue.

I am not liking this.............but will with hold any further comments, pending actions, to see the results etc.

Tia,
Don

Rich

Thanks for that number, it went thru on the 1st try,
talked to Joe for a few minutes and he is sending the parts I need, to fix the 17 Dar..............
Now I had better order some Heavy weight ammo for it............ ,
 
I have several different cans of the lite weight ammo for testing,
had a couple of Ranchers/Farm owners contact me to clean out the Flying Rats, HS and Starlings,
and Sage Bunny's in the hay fields................... Thank you, Don

I went thru the same drill as you. Glad to have helped out. My good deed for the day. Lol. Rich

[Norcal]

I don't believe this,
Well if that don't jerk the slack out of your shorts,

Received a email from Mike,
Stating:
You can send your rifle in for full warranty replacement.
We will not have a diagram anytime soon and taking the gun that far apart will void your warranty.
-Mike

I can see that Dar won't honor their warranty, as I have already replaced a couple of leaking "O" rings and PSI gage, and still the leaks continue.

I am not liking this.............but will with hold any further comments, pending actions, to see the results etc.

Tia,
Don

Wow - am so glad I resisted the urge to buy a DAR. Took my new Sentry 705 .22 out the other day and laid waste to 14 ground squirrels - she's shooting like a laser to 50 yards with Hunter HP's!

[Firewalker]

I don't believe this,
Well if that don't jerk the slack out of your shorts,

Received a email from Mike,
Stating:
You can send your rifle in for full warranty replacement.
We will not have a diagram anytime soon and taking the gun that far apart will void your warranty.
-Mike

I can see that Dar won't honor their warranty, as I have already replaced a couple of leaking "O" rings and PSI gage, and still the leaks continue.

I am not liking this.............but will with hold any further comments, pending actions, to see the results etc.

Tia,
Don

Wow - am so glad I resisted the urge to buy a DAR. Took my new Sentry 705 .22 out the other day and laid waste to 14 ground squirrels - she's shooting like a laser to 50 yards with Hunter HP's!

David, I want a 705 too!   

[Nvreloader]

Guys,
I jumped the gun and MUST apologize to Mike, for the comments I posted here, see below. 
I DID NOT check the time line of Mikes email, he sent it, before I contacted Joe on the phone.      

THIS is my mistake,  Mike was assuring me that my Dar is/will be honored via the warranty process etc.

So I make this public APOLOGY to MIke, at DAR, "I am sorry for the statement I posted."

It was too late to phone Mike and convey this message, but it will happen on Monday.

I also received a email from Joe explaining the situation, which was greatly appreciated by me.

So I'll go stand in the corner for the weekend for my acts.

Thank you, "Mike and Joe".

Don
ps, I am wanting a 22 & 25 cal Dar's now.............

I don't believe this,
Well if that don't jerk the slack out of your shorts,

Received a email from Mike,
Stating:
You can send your rifle in for full warranty replacement.
We will not have a diagram anytime soon and taking the gun that far apart will void your warranty.
-Mike

I can see that Dar won't honor their warranty, as I have already replaced a couple of leaking "O" rings and PSI gage, and still the leaks continue.

I am not liking this.............but will with hold any further comments, pending actions, to see the results etc.

Tia,
Don

[Wayne52]

I don't believe this,
Well if that don't jerk the slack out of your shorts,

Received a email from Mike,
Stating:
You can send your rifle in for full warranty replacement.
We will not have a diagram anytime soon and taking the gun that far apart will void your warranty.
-Mike

I can see that Dar won't honor their warranty, as I have already replaced a couple of leaking "O" rings and PSI gage, and still the leaks continue.

I am not liking this.............but will with hold any further comments, pending actions, to see the results etc.

Tia,
Don

Wow - am so glad I resisted the urge to buy a DAR. Took my new Sentry 705 .22 out the other day and laid waste to 14 ground squirrels - she's shooting like a laser to 50 yards with Hunter HP's!

David you already know how much I like the Xisico Sentry's, I was out with mine today but didn't see anything worth shooting so at the end of the day I picked out a dead 1" branch on a tree at about 35 yards and after seven shots that branch fell   I've REALLY been enjoying mine a lot.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

ps, I am wanting a 22 & 25 cal Dar's now.............

Hey Don, I just saw this, I just listed my DAR .22 in the Member Classified this morning!  Fortunately, I seem to have gotten one of the good ones, it's still holding air and functions perfectly!  Disclaimer:  I have not done anything to it other than a little polishing of the trigger, so it's never been opened up for any reason!   

[Nvreloader]

Thanks Paul
I'll head on over and give it a look see................LOL

Tia,
Don

[Dan H]

I think the DAR issues = o rings / poppet - they are starting to address by getting better o rings , the poppet just needs to be shaved a tiny bit down on the sealing surface / seat polish , and it should be good to go , I like these DAR guns a lot better than the Avengers cheap plastic toy gun like construction = junk IMO ....

Joe at Dar told me all of the new guns going out will have the o rings replaced , poppet wise I think if they just make a metal jig up with a small hole for the stem to go threw   with very fine sand paper  like 1500 -2000 on the other side , and simply turn the sealing edge  against the sand paper at a low speed they would be able to increase the sealing surface width just a bit ,and make these poppet's seal better plus polish the seat up with same grit sand paper , this is what I did ,and it sealed right up ,

 the small o ring in the reg I could never get sealed up with the o rings in the back up kit the gun came with .... plus the de gassing screw ball bearing messing up leaking -that I could only get sealed with plumbers tape, so I sent it in for repair ,and now Joe has decided to just send my action back to me with a new air tube assembly ... I told him to concentrate on getting us some quality duro 90 o rings ,...  I found some  HVAC green o rings  that worked in the barrel to seal of the probe ,and they are working perfect , my Carl Walther German gun's  have  these green what appear to be HVAC o rings in them , and are having no issues holding air ....   

[Firewalker]

Sell that thing, Paul before I I succumb!