New Beeman 2027 pcp pistol

[Airnut]

Great news!

[74hillbilly]

Thanks Airnut! I really appreciate the turn count! I will try 22 turns when I get out to the range.

[Airnut]

Keep in mind that full power has some draw backs.
1. Lower shot count about 13 if I remember correctly.
2. Loud
3. Air hog
4. Harder to cock and easier to double feed
I use the single shot tray at max power to eliminate the double feed issues.
What are you going to use this gun for?
If for target/ plinking max power is not needed and very wasteful.
For target shooting at 20 yards my gun shoots crosman 10.5 at 650 fps very well and get about 3 mags on a 3000 psi fill.

[Hawkeye51]

Started smoothing out my 2027 today. The good news is that it is really easy to break down and work on. There were several minor issues that I wanted to address. The initial cleaning of the barrel was easier to accomplish by just taking the barrel off. Don't forget to remone the o-ring inside the barrel before starting. It was pretty dirty, mostly with the corrosion resistant grease the factory puts inside. As I gently twisted the barrel free being careful to have the set screws backed fully out, I noticed my last two o-rings were nicked and little chips were missing, so I went ahead & replaced them. I polished a slight taper at the end of the barrel to aid in loading when using the magazine. Although the leade was fairly small, I tried to break the edge down and smooth it out a little. Then I widened the entrance only, to the transfer port on the barrel. Not looking to change port size, only to smooth out the flow.

[Hawkeye51]

The next step was the trigger. Although quite usable out of the box, I prefer a light trigger with a distinct first stage or no take up at all. I wasn't able to acheive the distinct first stage, it felt long and more like a gritty trigger creep. However I was able to improve the existing set up considerably. Thank God I remembered to take plenty of pictures before I started removing the pins. The entire rough cast trigger moves inside the housing, so I began by knocking down the sides with sandpaper and then polishing it a little on a wheel. Since the peice is cast, not machined, my goal was to just remove the roughness from the sides & edges. Next I removed the sear and contact surfaces. I smoothed them on a fine stone being careful to keep the original angles. I also polished the ramp and smoothed the top angle to aid in cocking the gun & help prevent double loading. I polished the hammer and the "latching edge" for the same reason. By over compressing the spring legs and changing their angle I was able to lighten the trigger considerably. Finally I installed a longer bolt under the trigger which can shorten the pull to any length you want. I set mine at about 1/16. I reshaped the safety latch and bent it forward a little so I could reach it easier with my finger tip. Then I smoothed the saftey latch keeper to lighten the effort needed to engage it. With all of these little tweeks combined, I am quite pleased with the results. Trigger weight is somewhere under a pound with a smooth 1/16 take up. The safety still works, and the gun will not fire when intentionally banged.

[Hawkeye51]

Here is the difference after touching up these surfaces.

[Hawkeye51]

The tube was caked with crusty packing grease. I just used a wooden dowel wrapped with 600 grit sandpaper and some solvent to remove it. Another small tweek was the magazines. I found the first pellet to be a little more difficult to seat with just my finger tip. After inspecting it I noticed the plastic stop bar protruded into the first pellet space. Slightly rounding the top edge toward the hole remedied this along with removing the o-ring and lubing it. Now I can easily seat the pellets with my finger.

I hope to shoot a few over the chrony today and check out some different pellet groups if I have time.

[johnbrown]

The next step was the trigger. Although quite usable out of the box, I prefer a light trigger with a distinct first stage or no take up at all. I wasn't able to acheive the distinct first stage, it felt long and more like a gritty trigger creep. However I was able to improve the existing set up considerably. Thank God I remembered to take plenty of pictures before I started removing the pins. The entire rough cast trigger moves inside the housing, so I began by knocking down the sides with sandpaper and then polishing it a little on a wheel. Since the peice is cast, not machined, my goal was to just remove the roughness from the sides & edges. Next I removed the sear and contact surfaces. I smoothed them on a fine stone being careful to keep the original angles. I also polished the ramp and smoothed the top angle to aid in cocking the gun & help prevent double loading. I polished the hammer and the "latching edge" for the same reason. By over compressing the spring legs and changing their angle I was able to lighten the trigger considerably. Finally I installed a longer bolt under the trigger which can shorten the pull to any length you want. I set mine at about 1/16. I reshaped the safety latch and bent it forward a little so I could reach it easier with my finger tip. Then I smoothed the saftey latch keeper to lighten the effort needed to engage it. With all of these little tweeks combined, I am quite pleased with the results. Trigger weight is somewhere under a pound with a smooth 1/16 take up. The safety still works, and the gun will not fire when intentionally banged.

The only thing I did to the trigger was to slightly bend the spring wire to decrease the pull weight.
The pull length is still long but otherwise the trigger feels good enough.

The 2027 trigger is the same like some Crosman triggers, and other mods can be done (using a small bearing).
For instance:


I tried the mod with the bearing but the gun would shoot when bumped so I reverted the mod and just bent slightly that spring wire.

[Hawkeye51]

Frank
I just wanted to thank you for trying out this pistol and posting your findings. You got me interested enough to look into buying one.

Steve
You put the icing on the cake by posting that awesome price you found.

I think it's going to be a lot of fun for the money.

[x3baddad]

Thank You Mike for all the tips and photos of the guts it will really help when mine gets here this friday or saturday

[x3baddad]

Well mine finally showed up today, looks good filled and leaks around gauge bled to 1400 filled again to 2400 then let it sit I'll see what its at after an hr. I'm guessing it will settle out.
nice double boxed with tamper tape. what a great deal @118.00 to my door.
I will add morte as I get to know it.

[x3baddad]

Anyone tried taking the front sight off to put on a ldc ? Is it glued on or screwed on?

[Hawkeye51]

Terry
Good question. I haven't taken mine off yet (using a scope rigbt now to assess accuracy) but I will. My eyes aren't good enougb to use standard sights. I will probably heat the plastic and try to knock it off with a peice of wood and soft hammer taps. If you get yours off first, please post pics for the rest of us. Thanks.

[rkrr20307@comcast.net]

Front site just taps right off. I removed it and ordered a 13 mm threaded adapter to add carbon fiber shroud and crosman baffle.

[x3baddad]

Where did you find the adaptor for the 13mm barrel, I'd like to find one that gives me 1/2-20, I need to put a scope on also as my 68 year old eyes are no good with open sights I can see the sights or the target just not both at the same time

[Airnut]

Ebay has them for $ 22.49 free ship

[x3baddad]

yep and in 6 to 8 weeks I can have one

[rkrr20307@comcast.net]

Hopefully not that long but maybe. I have 3 for Crosman barrels but they are less than 12mm and dont think I want to turn the barrel down so they would fit. I also ordered 24mm x 26mm x500mm carbon fiber tube and a crosman in tube moderator for the pistol. Shot 2 mags thru it today and averaged about 690 fps over chrony. I did turn hammer spring in several turns. I will keep tinkering and see where it goes. I also put a 2-7x32 scope on it.

[rkrr20307@comcast.net]

Sorry meant crosman barrel 1/2-20 adapters.

[johnbrown]

Anyone tried taking the front sight off to put on a ldc ? Is it glued on or screwed on?

The front sight is only pressure fit  not glued. I wiggled my front sight until it came off. The barrel is 13mm outer diameter and the barrel front is tapered and flat for about 2cm.

As a LDC I used a Crosman NP  baffle which is 1/2 inch (12.5 mm) inner diameter. I slightly enlarged the baffle inner diameter and then pressure fitted it on the barrel.