Testing 10 Different LDCs

[Rick67]

YES HE IS!
 I emailed him with my order number and asked he replace the 11mm adapter with one for the Crosman #A30.
 He answered me back first thing this morning and is going to make the correction.

 THANK YOU RICH!

Alrighty 

[Hoosier Daddy]

It arrived, It's wonderful!
High quality, easy on the eyes, quiets the "Bark" to a "Ping" and POI did not change!

WINNER!

[triggertreat]

Great thread!  I didn't see any of the ones I own in this list, so will add that the the Emperor on a big bore works very well.  Also, the Shogun on a .30 cal Impact, and the Reflex on the Marauders.  I am very pleased with these.  I did purchase another that wasn't pleasing, but will leave the name out.  Rocker1 has always received good reviews, but have never owned one.


Forgot to add:  Something I was told by one of these LDC manufactures is that the more you push them, the better they work...

[mrbulk]

I think its a good thing to compare ldcs, thing that gets me they always compare sound they do not consider the size or the dollars spent, A honest comparison is  sound,  size, for the dollars spent .  David

David, the Rocker1 did especially well in this most recent  thread:

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=179339.new#new

[john8]

I'm sold on the STO Falix, good price, relatively small, well built, works great, have two will buy more.

[rocks]

I got a Tanto on my 600

[mrbulk]

Cool! And the little Tanto looks positively Monster on that 600!

[airrob]

Where do you buy those GEO LDC's?  Those look good for the size.

[Jshooter71]

Where do you buy those GEO LDC's?  Those look good for the size.

Airgun Universe, he’s been closed up for awhile. Wish he’d start back up: https://www.airgununiverse.net/wp/store/

[joedirt199]

I love the humas and have 2 30mm ones and just got a 40mm to try on my kral jumbo. Giant shroud that ends right at the end of the barrel so basically and barrel tensioner with no sound reduction. Should tame it down nicely. I have been using my .25 cal 30mm ones in three segments and they still do great. I bought 4 section ones. The machining is so nice and they can be stripped down and cleaned very easily. The modularity is key for me.

[jjohnsonlta]

I have a LDC I bought for my Origin about a month ago. When googling around I found this info. Is this info current cause it seems like it's not in effect as far as buying one?

Are airgun suppressors legal?

Assuming you live in the United States, you can't just go out and buy a silencer for your air gun. Instead, you first have to write to or reach out to your federal government and request their permission for the silencer. If you get turned down for any reason, then that's it, it's game over for you.

Found this here 
Air Gun Silencers: Everything You Need to Know - AirGun Insighthttps://www.airguninsight.com › air-gun-

[jjohnsonlta]

 Found this also on site in previous post;


We don’t want to present any misconceptions here and make it sound like getting a silencer for your air gun is easy. It’s very often anything but.

Assuming you live in the United States, you can’t just go out and buy a silencer for your air gun. Instead, you first have to write to or reach out to your federal government and request their permission for the silencer. If you get turned down for any reason, then that’s it, it’s game over for you. No air gun silencer.

Why all the red tape, you ask? Unlike owning a firearm, which is written into the US Constitution, there’s nothing in there about silencers. Thus, any state can decide to decline your request of owning one if they so choose.

Certain states do allow for silencer ownership on a private level. These are as follows:

Wyoming
Wisconsin
West Virginia
Virginia
Utah
Texas
Tennessee
South Dakota
South Carolina
Pennsylvania
Oregon
Oklahoma
Ohio
North Dakota
North Carolina
New Mexico
New Hampshire
Nevada
Nebraska
Montana
Maryland
Maine
Louisiana
Kentucky
Indiana
Idaho
Georgia
Florida
Connecticut
Colorado
Arizona
Arkansas
Alabama
 If you count ‘em all up, those are indeed 36 out of 51 states. Okay then, so what’s the problem? Well, here’s where things get a little tricky.

Allowing for private ownership of an air gun silencer just means that you don’t risk any legal penalization if live in a state on that list of 36 and you’re caught using your silencer in say, your backyard. That’s all.
What it doesn’t mean is that your application for a silencer will naturally be approved just because you call one of the above states home. Remember, those permissions happen on a local or federal level, not a personal level.

Okay, well you at least want to try to see if you can get approval to buy an air gun silencer. What kind of form would you have to fill out? Can you just write an informal letter? You can write a letter if you really wanted to, but you’d also need to accompany it with ATF Form 4.

You can take a look at the form online right here. Download the PDF, print out the form, and complete it at your leisure. As the form says, you’re reaching out to the National Firearms Act Division through the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives in Colorado.

You need to include your own personal information, such as your full name, home address, phone number, and email address.

There’s also a section asking for information about the gun in question. Such as; the manufacturer, where the gun was imported from, its model, barrel length, overall length, and serial number as applicable. If you transferred the gun or bought a transferred one, you’d need to add that info in as well.

Besides the completed ATF Form 4, you also need to send along a $200 check (oh yeah, this isn’t free) and passport photos. Your local police office will get your fingerprints, which are part of your application as well.

Once you send in all your materials, it’s a waiting game. As we said before, you could get turned down for any reason and even a reason that’s never revealed to you.

It doesn’t seem like you can appeal the rejection, so you’re stuck. You could always wait and then try applying again or apply with a different air gun. You could still get turned down every time, though. It happens.

The good news is that if you do win the approval to own an air gun silencer, that’s it, you’re all set. You never have to apply for that silencer again. While it’s quite a time-consuming, pricy, and exasperating process then, it will be worth it if your silencer gets approved.

Where Can You Find Air Gun Silencers?
Alright, so you’re all ready to buy an air gun silencer because your state allows you to own one. Congratulations! Now you’re on the hunt to buy one.

Due to the tight legal restrictions with air gun silencer ownership, you’re not going to find them all over the net. That limits your options, but it can’t really be helped in this case. Here are some sites you can try researching to find the perfect silencer for your air gun.

Pyramid Air
If you already bought your air gun from Pyramid Air, then you might as well get your silencer from them, too. They have single suppressors as well as whole kits. Their silencers include brands like JBU, Air Venturi, AirForce, and more.

Airguns of Arizona
You can also find a slew of silencers for your air gun on Airguns of Arizona. This retailer sells air pistols and rifles, scopes and mounts, ammo, and accessories like bipods and air cylinders.

Admittedly, the silencers here aren’t exactly cheap, as they cost upwards of $200 and more. The range of silencers is a little better than those at Pyramid Air, though.

Palm Beach Air Guns
Like Airguns of Arizona, Palm Beach Air Guns is a retailer of air guns and accessories. They have about 15 suppressors available on their website as of this writing. These too are on the pricier side, with the cheapest option $100.

Palm Beach Air Guns mostly stocks DonnyFL silencers, including models like the TANTO, SUMO, TATSU, RONIN, EMPEROR, KOI, and SHOGUN.

Krale
If you don’t want to spend a lot of money on your silencer considering you dropped $200 for an application fee, another inexpensive place to shop is Krale. Their silencers are as cheap as $23 and as costly as $155, so whatever fits your budget, you can find it here.

Can You Make Your Own Air Gun Silencer?
If the legalities of buying an air gun silencer didn’t trip you up, then perhaps you found it difficult to track any down a silencer for purchase. You still want to muzzle your air gun, but you’re starting to run out of options. Could you possibly make your own air gun silencer at home?

Crafty gun enthusiasts have indeed done such a thing using common household items like pillows filled with foam, plastic water bottles, and PVC pipes. These are known as improvised silencers.

If you live in the US, these improvised silencers are still liable under the laws that govern manufactured silencers. Don’t think you can bypass the law by going the DIY route, then.

In fact, given that knowledge, there’s almost no need to ever make your own homemade silencer. Given the materials you’re working with, you can’t guarantee the safety of the silencer. If a part catches on fire or moves out of place, it could be very dangerous to operate your air gun. You could get severely injured, possibly even fatally.

If you absolutely must have an air gun silencer, then it’s much better to go the manufactured route if it’s legal where you live.

Conclusion
Air gun silencers reduce the noisy impact of firing your pellet through the gun, and they can even reduce recoil somewhat. While silencers sound like something handy that every air gun owner should have, there are strict laws about ownership. You have to fill out a form, pay an application fee, and hope your silencer is allowed. If it is, you never have to reapply again.

While there are a handful of air gun retailers that sell silencers, you do want to make sure they’re legal in your state before you order one. Best of luck!

[HunterWhite]

Interesting.
A very long post.
I don't see any U.S government information here at all. Just the website "insight".
Where is the truth?

Hunter

[jjohnsonlta]

That's what I am thinking. Maybe someone else will commit.

[mrbulk]

If what was shared about silencer legality were absolutely true and enforceable, most airgunners would forfeit their units and be charged with some type of crime, and the silencer mfrs who sold the units to them would be in jail.

[mrbulk]

BTW this outdated silencer testing thread is going on two years old now, and much of the testing data has been superseded by additional, more accurate procedures and results.

See the latest silencer test (this time with 20 different units) here:

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=182738.0

[Booder98]

The stuff I've read concerning US laws seems to me that...

- An airgun is not a firearm, so your silencer isn't breaking silencer firearm laws if you don't have any firearms (PBs).

- What it's made of is unimportant.  If it's made out of steel, plastic, or pasta, and it's supposed to make a PB quieter, it's a silencer.  Laws are enforced on intent, not effectiveness.

- If your airgun silencer doesn't fit your PB guns, then you're not breaking any laws, e.g. 1/2-20 silencer vs 1/2-28 on the PB, or your 12-gauge doesn't have a fitting.

- If your airgun silencer does fit your PB, or you have the parts handy to make it fit, then you're breaking the law.

However IANAL, and we need to scare up a lawyer to look at it.

[AlanMcD]

I agree with pretty much everything in the post above, but it speaks to the US - aka the Federal government.  Some states have their own laws that are different (and more strict) than that, including the fact that some of them consider airguns firearms too . . .

[Hoosier Daddy]

Found this also on site in previous post;

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Les, I would like to know where you found that info.
 If it was a forum, I would like to see the rebuttal.

Air gun silencers aren't serialized like fire arm silencer are for registration purposes. 

[jjohnsonlta]

Scott here's the web site I found;

https://www.airguninsight.com/air-gun-silencers-everything-you-need-to-know/

See what you think.