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Stinger177 · « **Reply #40 on:** October 16, 2020, 09:00:27 PM »

Quote from: Rallyshark on October 13, 2020, 10:35:58 PM

Quote from: KnifeMaker on October 13, 2020, 01:05:32 AM
thanks Guy! It is truly interesting to say the least!!!

Knife-Mike

The thing that has stood out most with the STO Falx is the tone it has. It has a much lower pitch than any other LDC I've heard. I think that is why I'm having a harder time determining how good it really is. It definitely works though.

"The thing that has stood out most with the STO Falx is the tone it has."

That's an interesting statement in that last night I was watching a TV series on Special OP's, and in particular the Navy Seals.

Of special note was what they said about the "silencer". In the TV episode, they state that it was NOT intended to necessarily "silence" the sound, but rather to change the sound, which connotes to Mikes statement regarding the tone and pitch.

JungleShooter · « **Reply #41 on:** October 16, 2020, 09:15:42 PM »

The TONE of the sound....
Yeah, I'd agree. 👍🏼
There's fundamental difference between:

(1) lowering the volume of a shot —
so that your wife can sleep longer, or the other critters don't get spooked so you can take them out with your next shot —

(2) and changing the tone of the shot as not to sound like a shot —
so that your neighbors don't get alarmed when you're on feral duty.

(3) And then there is still the camouflaging of the tone by running a powertool while shooting, or dropping a metal container, as to cover up the sound of the shot —
again all for the benefit of the neighbors, of course.

Matthias

Stinger177 · « **Reply #42 on:** October 16, 2020, 09:22:19 PM »

Quote from: JungleShooter on October 16, 2020, 09:15:42 PM

The TONE of the sound....
Yeah, I'd agree. 👍🏼
There's fundamental difference between:

(1) lowering the volume of a shot —
so that your wife can sleep longer, or the other critters don't get spooked so you can take them out with your next shot —

(2) and changing the tone of the shot as not to sound like a shot —
so that your neighbors don't get alarmed when you're on feral duty.

(3) And then there is still the camouflaging of the tone by running a powertool while shooting, or dropping a metal container, as to cover up the sound of the shot —
again all for the benefit of the neighbors, of course.

Matthias

So, bottom line is, have compressor running in the background.

KnifeMaker · « **Reply #43 on:** October 16, 2020, 09:36:41 PM »

Odd saying the Sumo is looking like a can. I have the longer version, the Shogun and it is not large in dia. at all. Now the Ronin is very can looking.
The prototype I am testing currently is very soup can looking. LOL!

I did a little playing with it as it had a quiet but high pitched snap. I used some nice synthetic felt I hade here and it became a lower pitched muffled sound. Not offensive at all.

Ernest Rowe has stated that memory foam makes them even deeper sounding. I can't wrap my head around how. Acoustic foam yes, but memory foam has no way for air to pass into it. How it works is a mystery I have not yet investigated.

The Prototype device I Am testing at the moment is odd in that it is VERY Heavy. Which for a bench gun is just the ticket. Not a hunter at all. I am , but the device is not.
Secondly, I wish it had a conical rear cap. It is flat and reflect the light back into my Zeiss making the image when testing or varminting at night difficult.
what it does do is wring out the very last bit of accuacy by taming any harmonics. Ah - You say?

Knife

G-man · « **Reply #44 on:** October 17, 2020, 12:16:21 AM »

I'd have been curious to see how the Huggett Astille would have compared. My recent Prod purchase had me scrambling for a means to quiet it down.
I added a Rocker 1' extended barrel shroud with baffles. It did quiet it down but I needed more. My neighbors were commenting on the "report". I had seen "Andy's Airgun Reviews" moderator comparison and the Huggett Astille was his winner. It also has add on extensions you can add if need be. I bought the Astille and an extra extension. First I tried using the Astille + the Rocker 1 shroud but it was still too noticeable, so then I added the Huggett extension and that really did the trick. Now I can sighting my Prod from my window to my rat target w/o my neighbor's noticing. I bought the .25 version to be sure I had no clipping issues. While I'm not totally keen on it's looks I am totally happy with how well it works.

Rallyshark · « **Reply #45 on:** October 17, 2020, 12:51:36 AM »

That is the first I've seen about the Astille. I'm not gonna lie, it is ugly as sin to me. But... If it works, it works. I saw another review where it bested the Ronin and the Ramus, and that is some solid competition I'd say. On that review the person kept saying the dild*, I mean Astille, hahaha! Andy was looking for where batteries go when he received it as well, lol.

G-man · « **Reply #46 on:** October 17, 2020, 05:02:10 AM »

Yeah, I thought that was pretty funny too, especially coming from Andy. It's a bit toy-ish looking, but I didn't want to take a chance on something and not have it work as well as I needed. The price was right and it did offer the add-on feature which I wanted as well. The nice thing is the effectively lengthened barrel (shroud) allows me safer sighting since; the small target area, the steep shot angle, the height and depth of the table I'm shooting from, and only being 5'9" height, all combine to limit my effective sighting range. I've been very careful to check before I shoot, that I won't clip the window frame on a shot, but life isn't perfect and no longer is the window frame. The effective longer barrel (shroud) now allows me to more easily see any possible "frame issues."
When I have to "sight in" the scope/Prod, I have a cardboard box fitted with a big telephone book and rat silhouettes. This is placed at the bird feeder where the rats come to feast. Now, the Prod is so quiet that the birds in the nearby bushes or squirrels in the yard barely react to a shot. I think they're reacting more to the sound of the pellet hitting the target.
This whole "sighting in" thing is still a bit of a mystery to me, especially now that my PCP's exhibit the same behavior as my nitro-piston's. But that's a discussion for a different forum.

Tater · « **Reply #47 on:** October 17, 2020, 05:06:32 AM »

Quote from: G-man on October 17, 2020, 05:02:10 AM

I've been very careful to check before I shoot, that I won't clip the window frame on a shot, but life isn't perfect and no longer is the window frame.

This cracked me up. I like how you slipped that in there.

Rocker1 · « **Reply #48 on:** October 17, 2020, 06:50:36 AM »

I think its a good thing to compare ldcs, thing that gets me they always compare sound they do not consider the size or the dollars spent, A honest comparison is sound, size, for the dollars spent . David

Wayne52 · « **Reply #49 on:** October 17, 2020, 06:59:36 AM »

David the only LDC's that I use besides the stock ones that came on my Sentry's and Airmax Dominator are yours, they work fantastic and I've never had a complaint.

I use this one on my Benjamin Cayden, I did drill the baffles big enough for .25's too so out of the two like this that I have I'll be using one on three different rifles and my Prod.

JungleShooter · « **Reply #50 on:** October 17, 2020, 12:40:48 PM »

Quote from: Rocker1 on October 17, 2020, 06:50:36 AM

I think its a good thing to compare ldcs, thing that gets me they always compare sound they do not consider the size or the dollars spent, A honest comparison is sound, size, for the dollars spent.
David

David,

I gladly include your silencers in my Silencer Specs Table! 😄
Just send me the specs to fill in the table.... 😄
Do you have several different "standard" sizes? What are they?

Also, are there different colors available, different materials, end caps, etc.? 👍🏼

And some photos, of course. I suspect there a quite a few people that do not just care about the performance, but the looks....! 😄

Matthias

Atttachment: Silencer Specs Table

KnifeMaker · « **Reply #51 on:** October 18, 2020, 05:23:10 AM »

I have several Rocker-1 ldc's. I
use them in my pcp hand guns. Love-em!

The light weight is a real + for them.

Knife

Wish I could show what I am testing now It is only apx 5 1/2" X 2" in dia. reall lookng like a can. LOL, and "HEAVY!"!! But works so very well. Love it! Talk about increasing accuracy.

mrbulk · « **Reply #52 on:** October 18, 2020, 06:57:43 AM »

I do like my own one version of the Rocker, slim and light and suppresses about as well as most among the entire pack, great value for money *Plus* you can take them apart for cleaning and general maintenance.

Hoosier Daddy · « **Reply #53 on:** October 18, 2020, 02:58:39 PM »

After shooting with Privateer, I was sold on the Donny FL.
But the Emperor was so dang big... and the Shogun isn't much smaller.
Because of this thread (and others) I just ordered a Tanto.

mrbulk · « **Reply #54 on:** October 18, 2020, 03:20:39 PM »

Quote from: Hoosier Daddy on October 18, 2020, 02:58:39 PM

After shooting with Privateer, I was sold on the Donny FL.
But the Emperor was so dang big... and the Shogun isn't much smaller.
Because of this thread (and others) I just ordered a Tanto.

Hey Scott that looks just like mine! Except I got the tapered endcap is the only difference. But in low- to mid-powered guns at least, the Tanto (in my tests anyway) seemed to quiet things as well or better than some of the larger cans...

Hoosier Daddy · « **Reply #55 on:** October 18, 2020, 05:07:50 PM »

I bought the tapered endcap as well... along with the 11mm to 1//2-20 thread slip on adapter.
Maxine has hated to be stifled... If this doesn't work on her it will go on the Kratos.

Rick67 · « **Reply #56 on:** October 18, 2020, 06:12:30 PM »

Quote from: Hoosier Daddy on October 18, 2020, 05:07:50 PM

I bought the tapered endcap as well... along with the 11mm to 1//2-20 thread slip on adapter.
Maxine has hated to be stifled... If this doesn't work on her it will go on the Kratos.

The DFL 11mm adapter won’t fit your 22xx barrel—it will be too tight.

The 1 that you need to order is for the Disco, which has a belly undercut in DFL’s site.

The right adapter is 11.05mm..

Hoosier Daddy · « **Reply #57 on:** October 18, 2020, 06:27:40 PM »

OH SNAP!!!
I researched and measured...TWICE.
I thought the 11mm is what I need.
Guess some reaming is in order.

Do you think the .05mm interference may work if I put the adapter in the oven and the gun in the freezer?

Rick67 · « **Reply #58 on:** October 18, 2020, 06:38:02 PM »

Not worth the trouble, sir.

There was 1 gent who asked me about it but still ordered the 11mm, so, IIRIC, he returned it.

Good thing DFL is a super accommodating gent.

Hoosier Daddy · « **Reply #59 on:** October 19, 2020, 10:23:48 AM »

YES HE IS!
I emailed him with my order number and asked he replace the 11mm adapter with one for the Crosman #A30.
He answered me back first thing this morning and is going to make the correction.

THANK YOU RICH!

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Testing 10 Different LDCs

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