My 1322 crosman is dead

[s2kohio]

Hi guys

Got my Allen key and opened up the gun.

I think I got it right.
Looking into the pistol with breech off and barrel removed there is a port from which I can see a small opening. The inside piece where I see the opening is not open flush with the hole. I tried to move it but it won’t move. I left it alone.

I reseated the gasket into that hole and then put the pardon my French ‘thing-a-majig’ into the gasket. I reseated the barrel & breech  tightened the breech screw but not all the way. Then screws on the rear sight. Gun is shooting but although I feel resistance to pumping, it’s not as hard to pump as my 1377.

I zeroed in the windage BUT which way do I lift or lower the elevation piece to raise the elevation. It’s shooting about 5-6” low.

[Gertrude]

Raising the REAR sight higher, will raise the POI
(Point Of Impact)

[Hoosier Daddy]

Looking into the pistol with breech off and barrel removed there is a port from which I can see a small opening. The inside piece where I see the opening is not open flush with the hole. I tried to move it but it won’t move. I left it alone.

From your decription it sounds like the outlet port of the valve inside the tube isn't aligned perfectly, not uncommon and should still work.
Further disassemble would be needed to correct for "optimum performance".

I reseated the gasket into that hole and then put the pardon my French ‘thing-a-majig’ into the gasket. I reseated the barrel & breech  tightened the breech screw but not all the way. Then screws on the rear sight.

The "PITA screw" needs to be tight... but not Superman torqued. See my previous post on how to hold the allen key.
I think the ‘thing-a-majig’ is the transfer port (TP).

Gun is shooting but although I feel resistance to pumping, it’s not as hard to pump as my 1377.

The resistance should feel the same.
I would offer to have you send me your 1322... but you know what they say about "teaching a man to fish".

[Bentong]

Double post 

[Bentong]

The valve porting gets out of alignment overtime because the valve gets pushed back and chewed by the notch on the tube. I did a Wyoman fix on mine by pinning the valve just above the  trigger screw...have to drill/tap and use set screw so it sets flush below the breech.

[s2kohio]

Guys

I got it open. Thought I fixed it because it started shooting but when pumping to 10 It got somewhat harder to pump after 4, but not as hard as the1377.

Then it seemed to slow down in shooting.

When I removed the breech this is what it looked like.  I’m thinking the silver thing circle or opening should be flush with the cylinder hole or is it correctly seated as the picture shows?

I assume the washer goes into that hole (when taking the breech off all of it came off at once and I didn’t see exactly what went where).

Also I assume the transport valve goes long end into the washer.  See the picture where the arrow shows the long end which goes long end down into the washer, right?

[s2kohio]

Looking into the pistol with breech off and barrel removed there is a port from which I can see a small opening. The inside piece where I see the opening is not open flush with the hole. I tried to move it but it won’t move. I left it alone.

From your decription it sounds like the outlet port of the valve inside the tube isn't aligned perfectly, not uncommon and should still work.
Further disassemble would be needed to correct for "optimum performance".

Scott

How would I continue the disassemble to straighten the inner port?  See the picture I posted showing it seemingly skewed.

[avator]

You have the transfer port upside down. The short side goes into the rubber washer on the valve side. The long side goes up into the barrel.
Look at the exploded view below.

[avator]

In your first picture, those holes need to line up.
You may need to remove screw #35 in the exploded view below to rotate the valve. You can just reach down the hole with something and line the holes up.
Don't remove the rear screw on the trigger frame. There is a tiny ball and spring in there for the safety (#30 and #31) that is very easy to lose..... ask any of us how we know that... 

[avator]

Disregard the red finger pointer in the diagram... that is from the previous posting from page 1.

[Hoosier Daddy]

That misalignment is serious... You need to correct that.

[s2kohio]

Ok. Tomorrow I’ll take it all apart again and loosen screw 35 to rotate that inner barrel/cylinder. I assume I could use an awl into the hole in my picture of the misaligned part and try to rotate it.

Once I get that aligned I will continue on with the TP and washer.

From what I know see and learned from you guys this 1322 was FUBAR’d from the moment I opened the blister shell.

I’ll report back tomorrow.

[Gertrude]

Somebody clear this up for me here,
It's been a long while since I messed  with a 1322... but IIRC, there is (or at least should be) a valve  retaining screw that basically aligns the exhaust  port of the valve with the hole in the pressure  tube.
And if I am correct  in my memory  on that,
And if that screw is in place then,
How is it possible for the valve to rotate  that far off ?
Or
Is there a missing retention  screw (?) Thus all his valve to rotate  in the tube ?

[s2kohio]

I couldn’t wait till morning. I took out screw 35 but I see no way to turn the cylinder to line it up. What am I missing?

[avator]

Somebody clear this up for me here,
It's been a long while since I messed  with a 1322... but IIRC, there is (or at least should be) a valve  retaining screw that basically aligns the exhaust  port of the valve with the hole in the pressure  tube.
And if I am correct  in my memory  on that,
And if that screw is in place then,
How is it possible for the valve to rotate  that far off ?
Or
Is there a missing retention  screw (?) Thus all his valve to rotate  in the tube ?

That kinda bewildered me too Ron... it's been awhile and I had myself convinced the front trigger frame screw pinned it.

[avator]

Just checked the EVP and it does not show a retainer screw other than the front trigger frame screw.... either way, that should have aligned the valve.... something fishy.

[avator]

...... however.... there is a retaining screw into the valve on a 2240.

[Tack Driver 10]

Looks like the two valve halves are not screwed together tight.
May be able to fix it in the gun or may have to take the gun apart.
Either way it's fixable.

[avator]

Looks like the two valve halves are not screwed together tight.
May be able to fix it in the gun or may have to take the gun apart.
Either way it's fixable.

By George, I think you nailed it.

[Bentong]

+1 on loose valve half. The back end must have turned CCW. Easy fix though, once you got the pump arm out and trigger guard screw...just push the valve fwd, won't go towards back due to notched stopper. Check the 2 o-rings while at it.