Author Topic: My 1322 crosman is dead (Read 11048 times))

avator · « **Reply #20 on:** July 09, 2020, 03:24:13 PM »

LOL..... bunch of dang enablers.

Welcome to the GTA, S2Kohio (Mike).

BTW..... I was born and raised just east of you in Ashtabula.... but that was many years ago.

s2kohio · « **Reply #21 on:** July 09, 2020, 08:04:14 PM »

If I go with the longer barrel what would be the foot pounds of energy Increase?

From stock 1322

From 1322 12” barrel

From 1322 14” barrel

My goal is getting rid of squirrels and chipmunks.

I hit the grey squirrels but sometimes it seems they are wearing bulletproof fur.

avator · « **Reply #22 on:** July 09, 2020, 08:19:12 PM »

Mike, if you've been hitting squirrels with the 1322 and the pellets were bouncing off then there has been a problem with your gun for some time now.

Bentong · « **Reply #23 on:** July 09, 2020, 08:31:25 PM »

pssstt.. grey nutters don't wear bulletproof in the head. While you're in the look out for longer barrel..might as well make a shopping list. Once you short out the power issue, you install a longer barrel then you'll find out it's moving from the plastic breech then you'll want a metal breech. Now that it's stable you'll want pinpoint accuracy and you'll want a scope. Now that you got accuracy..you want to shoot farther and add a flat top. With all the power now it's barking louder and you'll want an LDC to quiet it down. With all that done, you'll want more pellets.

s2kohio · « **Reply #24 on:** July 09, 2020, 09:08:49 PM »

Can’t do all that modding because the louder it gets the neighbors will get nutty. The small pop from the 1322 & 1377 is quiet enough that no one knows what I’m doing.

Last year cost me $1000 to get rid squirrels that infested my garage ceiling.

Don’t think I need a scope since I’m deadly with the iron sights. I just need more power.

How much louder is this with a 12 or 14” barrel?
And in replacing the barrel do you still use the ‘guts’ from the stock barrel or do you need all new cylinders, etc?

Now I need to get a .05” hex key. Any suggestions for a good set to open up the breach of my busted 1322.

Thanks for all the replies.

CraigH · « **Reply #25 on:** July 09, 2020, 09:22:54 PM »

Quote from: S2kohio on July 09, 2020, 09:08:49 PM

How much louder is this with a 12" or 14” barrel?
And in replacing the barrel do you still use the ‘guts’ from the stock barrel or do you need all new cylinders, etc?

For any given number of pumps, the longer barrel will be a small bit quieter. Given about 8-10 pumps, the 14" barrel may be about 40-50 fps more velocity.

Barrel change on Crosman 13xx and 24xx pistols requires no other changes. Except that on the 13xx guns where there is a turned down tip on the barre to fit into the barrel band. Drill out the barrel band to the full diameter of the barrel.

YEMX · « **Reply #26 on:** July 09, 2020, 09:32:00 PM »

14" barrel is your best bet. You'll re-use all the internals (though, you may want to upgrade down the road for S&G's), You'll need a 2289 barrel band to use a longer barrel. A steel breech would be better, and easier to swap out now as well. LDC is a sound suppressor- so you can upgrade as much as you want, it'll be more quiet than it is now.

BigBird · « **Reply #27 on:** July 09, 2020, 09:53:50 PM »

As soon as you fix that problem., you should be able to kill squirrels with yours stock. within 20-25 yds (unless you are in a country that uses metric

).

If you are shooting 14.3 gr pellets it is about 6 FPE at the muzzle. My stock (no mods sans barrel) 1322 with a 24" 2260 barrel shoots the same pellet about 10 FPE. That FPE increase is nice but the gain in speed gives it better range (gravity, windage and maybe Coriolis effect) due to time in air.

What YEMX said, (14" is packable too). You can ream out your stock barrel band with a guitar peg reamer (ream both ends until nice tight fit). I never got a 2289 barrel band because crosman was always out = mother of invention. Cheapest barrels are from Crosman but shipping for barrels is like $10 (last time I ordered) so get a .177 if you want. I'm cheap, I get a Maximus barrel and can make 2 barrels using a lathe, a drill and my low standard meter. Sometimes disco barrels are not in stock so you can use 2250, 2260, Disco, Maximus, Fortitude barels and others. If you get a longer one, cutting and recrowning is pretty easy with hand tools (https://rifleshooter.com/2018/03/do-rifle-crowns-matter-does-a-crown-effect-accuracy/ I know... PB)

Stock .177 probes are plentiful if you want to ever use .177. BTW I'm cheap, I take off the handle to drill and tap mine for use in steel breeches. Cheap conversion.

Warning, if you have a tinkering side..."I'd have so much more time if it weren't for 1322, etc." It is a training tool though. Make sure to listen to these guys /\ and these guys \/. I'm still training and my low standards meter is reading "outlook good", no wait its "You may rely on it".

Yes!

s2kohio · « **Reply #28 on:** July 10, 2020, 08:13:52 AM »

I ordered my Allen hex key set. I hope the .05” key does not strip the hex screw on the breach 😬. It arrives tomorrow.

s2kohio · « **Reply #29 on:** July 10, 2020, 08:26:16 AM »

I truly thank everyone for their input. But remember my first post - I’m not mechanical.

So

I don’t have a guitar peg reamer to ream out the stock barrel band;

I don’t have a lathe or a ‘low standard meter’;

and

What hand tools would be used to cut & recrown a barrel?

Next question, why change a .22 to a .177 14” barrel?

I’m almost ready to ask if anyone on the forum wants to fix my 1322 and mod the barrel OR if I should just buy a 1322 from Crosman custom shop with steel breach & 14” barrel already done.

I love to shoot these things but I’m far from being a tinkering person as you can tell by my questions and total lack of tools (even an Allen key of the correct size).

Back_Roads · « **Reply #30 on:** July 10, 2020, 08:59:51 AM »

A custom shop 1322 would put you at ease while you tinker and learn the as you fix/ possibly upgrade your ailing gun

BigBird · « **Reply #31 on:** July 10, 2020, 09:19:23 AM »

Quote from: S2kohio on July 10, 2020, 08:26:16 AM

Next question, why change a .22 to a .177 14” barrel?

Meaning purchase 2 barrels to offset the cost of shipping. Custom shop is a good way to get what you are looking for. It also allows you to order custom shop parts that otherwise aren't available to non-custom-shop customers..

s2kohio · « **Reply #32 on:** July 10, 2020, 09:28:22 AM »

I checked the crosman custom shop. They don’t have pumpers at this for building. Since I don’t want a CO2 pistol I’m going to mess around with my non-functional 1322.

By the way, the front sight on my 1322 was ‘cocked’ to the left slightly when I purchased it new. How would I straighten it out?

avator · « **Reply #33 on:** July 10, 2020, 10:05:32 AM »

That will straighten out when you get the transfer port aligned correctly.

I would be more than happy to fix your gun but I think the round trip shipping would go along way towards the purchase of another... and you would still have this one to tinker and learn on.

YEMX · « **Reply #34 on:** July 10, 2020, 10:56:51 AM »

Quote from: S2kohio on July 10, 2020, 08:26:16 AM

...I’m not mechanical.

What hand tools would be used to cut & recrown a barrel?

You're not a tinkerer yet. Seriously, these guns are really very simple when you start getting into them. Plus it's fun and very satisfying every time you take it out to shoot because you worked on it, tweaked it...

Do you have a drill? Go to Home Depot or Lowes and get a brass screw w/a round head that is slightly bigger than the bore (hole) of your barrel. Get some valve grinding (or "lapping") compound from autozone or Advance Auto. Here's a vid:

Yes, it's for a powder burner, but the process is exactly the same.

s2kohio · « **Reply #35 on:** July 10, 2020, 11:05:58 AM »

Bill

Thanks for the offer. I’ll keep that in mind.

I sent an email to Crosman customer service with my tale of woe. Asked them if they’d just replace my dud.

From what I know now the misaligned front sight was indicative of an initial problem and I didn’t realize that the slight ‘hump’ of the barrel into the transport / breech area was a defect.

I’ll let you know what response I get from Crosman. I got an email verification that it was read within the last 30 minutes.

Mike

dan_house · « **Reply #36 on:** July 10, 2020, 01:19:43 PM »

Mike, most hardware stores have a "bargain bin", and Harbor Frieght is a great place to get some tool on the cheap. Basic stuff is all ya need, some hex wrenches, screw drivers in a couple sizes, needle nose pliers maybe. The 1322/1377 is about the best platform to learn basic airgun concepts, itll making shooting the thing even more fun

BigBird · « **Reply #37 on:** July 10, 2020, 03:08:01 PM »

Also, there is a mini star torx bit which fits in the breech screw allen wrench hole just as good as the allen wrench. Maybe you have one around the house?

Sorry for offering too many solutions. I'd probably wait to see what Crosman says cause they are very helpful. However, if you want a Custom shop pumper just get a 2400KT (looks to be available) and the parts are interchangeable^*. You just need a 2289 barrel band (someone can probably print one? If not available). You'll be able to go from CO2 to Pump within less than 30 minutes if you want and these parts will be useful down the road.

What you get: Steel breech = $30+ a 14" barrel at least $20 + the stock $30. (Late-night as-seen-on-TV marketing voice) THAT'S A WHOPPING $80 VALUE...PLUS YOU GET TWO GUNS FOR THE PRICE OF ONE!!! (Cue overly excited audience clap track and "wows").

_{*Voids warranty but you may not need once you can disassemble.}

avator · « **Reply #38 on:** July 10, 2020, 03:19:03 PM »

LOL..... Set it and forget it !!!

s2kohio · « **Reply #39 on:** July 10, 2020, 08:26:13 PM »

What do you guys think of a 24” barrel?

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My 1322 crosman is dead

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