Standard pellet to a HOLLOW POINT ... it can be done !

[Motorhead]

Bored ... waiting on NSA to make affordable .177 slugs 

Been shooting the .177 Bottle-Rauder the last few days after Rabbits .... 2 so far.  Issue is at @ 1050 fps the H&N Sniper magnums go right threw like an Ice pick !!  While head shots anchor them well enough, Body shots DON'T !!

So for a few hours today fiddled around on the LATHE being able to HOLLOW POINT modify some pellets 
The lathe jaws allowing holding pellet by the waist while using a starter drill to make a hollow point into the domed head.

Starter drill makes an .080" hole while drilling down .100" to make an aggressive hole that should open up nicely !!
After doing the first 10, loaded up a mag and shot them at 50 yards ... no accuracy change all falling inside 1/2" easily.  Thats GREAT !!
So spent some time making up @ 50 and going to find some live game to hit then with and see how the kinetic energy transfer is while seeing if i can mitigate pass threw shots.

In testing the speed, checked the weight ....  Stock H&N Sniper magnum .177 cal @ 14.9 grains & shot at 1050 fps.  Hollow pointed weight at 13.8 grains and shot 1070 fps.

Anywho .. what we got 

Scott S

[wolverine]

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I've already dropped 4 tins of 500 ct. .22 JSB 15.89s in the mail.  When can i expect them back?

[Motorhead]

MOTORHEADS CUSTOM HOLLOWPOINT PELLETS!  WE'LL BEAT ANY COMPETITORS PRICE BY 10%!  SEND US YOUR RIFLES FAVORITE PELLET AND WE'LL MAKE THEM HOLLOWPOINTS!  FAST TURN AROUND!  FREE SHIPPING!  NO QUANTITY TOO SMALL OR TOO LARGE!



I've already dropped 4 tins of 500 ct. .22 JSB 15.89s in the mail.  When can i expect them back?

Can ONLY hold onto a straight waist pellet ... bummer i know !

[Blowpipe Sam]

What works in .177, ought to work in .22.  I might try modifying some .22 Sniper magnums for my Hatsan 125. 

[K.O.]

would be interesting to see MV  then vel @ 25 & 50 yards...would get an idea of the size of B.C. change... any chance..? I hand hollow pointed some BBT 40g and 34g Bobs Meplat Magnums... that meplat is made for hollow pointing..

have not been able to test accuracy  yet... I expect maybe some gains with the 40g BBT...

started mine with 5/64(.078) guide hole...  then a brad point 1/8(.125)... then finished with 5/32 (.156) 118*

could not find my old herter's Case Trimmer that I used to use to hollow point .357 but was given a Foster... will be using it soon... Have to cast up some more first... but do have some pellets to mess with...The sniper mags that come out of my little Storm are very accurate at about 25 fpe... The Sniper mags are very good at 50y in my Buc .177 also... so will be copying... just to see...

Hey should link to your thread on making some heavy .20 from  .22...wonder if you can hollow point them..

18.1g  .20 JSB to hollow point,  .20 Beast hollow point... Hmm 


found it...  https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=150220.0

[moorepower]

It would probably work better to make a drill fixture to hold the pellet and drill the hp. Start with the hole size for your hp then in lathe or drill press vice drill a hole for the pellet

[KnifeMaker]

Scott, your waiting on slugs, and i'm waiting on NOE to make molds. 

Grrrrr!!!

[Frank in Fairfield]

We used to drill holes in our .22lr and lead .38 special bullets for shooting coyotes in Mojave Desert in the 60s, before I went into the Air Force.
There was a company in SoCal that sold a jig so you wouldn’t drill too deep..

[Wayne52]

Scott, your waiting on slugs, and i'm waiting on NOE to make molds. 

Grrrrr!!!

Don't feel like the lone wolf Michael

[Frank in Fairfield]

Like this:

https://www.forsterproducts.com/product/hollow-pointer-kits/

[JohnnyPDX]

Your hollow points look awesome and it seems like the dimensions of the hole will yield great expansion. Show us the destruction when you can.

[KnifeMaker]

Scott, your waiting on slugs, and i'm waiting on NOE to make molds. 

Grrrrr!!!

Don't feel like the lone wolf Michael

Shared pain is half the pain. LOL

[Frank in Fairfield]

The pellets are not that hard.
You can hold them between your fingers while drilling a dimple..

[JohnnyPDX]

The pellets are not that hard.
You can hold them between your fingers while drilling a dimple..

True. Done it already.  Works. No lathe necessary.

[Motorhead]

The pellets are not that hard.
You can hold them between your fingers while drilling a dimple..

The pellets are not that hard.
You can hold them between your fingers while drilling a dimple..

True. Done it already.  Works. No lathe necessary.

 NOT straight and on center you Did Not doing so by hand !!
While it may have produced a hollow point in the head, being even SLIGHTLY off center makes the balance change and accuracy will be bad !!

[JohnnyPDX]

Ok. Relax.

[Motorhead]

O' I am .... Just what we need , Folks drilling there finger tips or worse !!

[nced]

The pellets are not that hard.
You can hold them between your fingers while drilling a dimple..

The pellets are not that hard.
You can hold them between your fingers while drilling a dimple..

True. Done it already.  Works. No lathe necessary.

 NOT straight and on center you Did Not doing so by hand !!
While it may have produced a hollow point in the head, being even SLIGHTLY off center makes the balance change and accuracy will be bad !!

"SLIGHTLY off center makes the balance change and accuracy will be bad "
When I was shooting a .20 Beeman R9 I hunted WV squirrels with the Crow Magnum hollow point pellet for a solid week and my "hit to retrieve ratio" was a pitiful 50ish%. I assume that this was due to the pellet veering off course after about 25 yards so most 30-40 yard hits were probably "off the mark". I do have to mention however that with solid "through the vitals" hits the CMs expanded well and were pure poison. Here are a couple pics of a .20 CM extracted from an unlucky squirrel when dressing for the pan...........


LOL....I tried some .177 Crosman Destroyers from my HW95 and the accuracy was POOR even at only 18 yards but better than the Daisy Hollow Points I tested at the same distance (arrow marks bull aimed it)..........


I tested out the .20 CrowMagnum pellet decades ago after reading a thread on a yellow colored airgun forum where it was claimed that "a .20 CM pellet at 14fpe at the muzzle" would expand the killzone size of a squirrel by 50% (1" killzone becomes 1 1/2" killzone. Well, I tuned the .20 R9 to shoot the CM at 780fps (a bit over 17fpe) and found that the killzone size wasn't increased by 50% and a .177 cal dome "on the mark" at 14fpe was better than a .20 CM at 17ish fpe that was off the mark by 50%......



Anywhoo.....I gave up hollow pointed pellets (and a couple different "trick pellets" decades ago finding that an accurate round nose was more reliable. Perhaps the swaging process employed by the pellet manufacturers created an imbalanced pellet. It would be interesting if your "lathe turned hollow points" are accurate past 25 yards so please post some target groups if your home rolled hollow points have satisfactory accuracy.

[JohnnyPDX]

O' I am .... Just what we need , Folks drilling there finger tips or worse !!

Mine are pre-drilled.

[K.O.]

Very successfully hollow pointed  T-22 .22 lr by hand way back in the late 70's...Have never tried a pellet tho... and by hand I mean twirling a drill bit with my fingers... took a bit to develop the system, eye and knack... I will be in the future trying to do some pellets... Hint start by making a meplat...and the same meplat every time...