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New R7 owner...some advice please.
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August 03, 2011, 06:31:32 PM »
I just ordered a Beeman R7 from Pyramyd air last night along with a Hawke 2-7x32ao hd ir scope. I was wondering what are some of the things I should do with it once it arrives. Any kind of quirks I should be aware of with the gun? Do I need to clean out the barrel? Are there any modifications you guys would recommend that I can do easily and for little money? I'm pretty excited and have already ordered about 2000 pellets to shoot through it.
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Re: New R7 owner...some advice please.
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August 03, 2011, 06:42:20 PM »
Order more pellets.
Congratulations. You are in for some great shooting. Let me know how you like the scope. I know you'll love the rifle.
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Re: New R7 owner...some advice please.
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August 03, 2011, 06:45:27 PM »
you need to put a cocking arm incert in the cocking arm before you even fire it! or it'll eat up your compression tube on the out side like a hacksaw cutting into it! they can be bought from JM! other than that claen the barrel with ballistol and some patch's and shoot it!
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Re: New R7 owner...some advice please.
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Congrats- I've heard nothing but good about the R7. Happy shooting.
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Re: New R7 owner...some advice please.
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August 03, 2011, 07:21:55 PM »
Mark, can you please explain what a cocking arm insert is and what it does?
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Re: New R7 owner...some advice please.
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August 03, 2011, 08:47:16 PM »
Its a delrin type material that go's in the cocking arm to keep the cocking arm from rubbing the compression tube, so its an inbetween to keep the arm and tube from making contact, if not installed it will cause damage to your compression tube it costs about 3.50$ from AirRifle Headquarters, this is a factory design flaw from HW, that effects the HW30/R7 guns and the HW50's type guns. the cause is the 2 piece cocking arm pivots up into the tube and cuts it like a saw blade and over time it will cause serious damage to your rifles compression tube, I know first hand! cause its happened to me!
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Re: New R7 owner...some advice please.
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August 03, 2011, 09:13:45 PM »
Well, I read the instructions (in quotes below) for installation, but I still don't understand where it's installed. Are there photos anywhere?
"Simply cut it to the length needed and insert it into the hollow double jointed cocking levers like on the R7-HW30, R6, Hw50's-55 etc.
Install the split ends into the lever first. Most often if pressed in it fits well but can be sanded, buffed or ground for a perfect fit. Does not need glued in. Eliminates receiver galling prominent in these guns. Be careful not to over grind it as it will compress in the lever with minor effort. You want it about 10 thou higher than the lever. On newer guns that have deeper levers you can shim up the insert, double it face to face and many use a small portion and fit in the cocking lever like the factory roller etc. Many ways to use these."
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Re: New R7 owner...some advice please.
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August 03, 2011, 10:06:17 PM »
On this site look at part UL066, the cocking arm.
http://www.gunspares.co.uk/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=24561&cat=HW30S
When you strip it down you will see. I ran the whole length. Just cut and sand to fit.
Here is a link with some pictures. Scroll through and you will see the arm and tube relationship.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/thread/1166716366/Results+from+R7+tune+w-JM+parts-+%2APICS%2A
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Re: New R7 owner...some advice please.
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Congratulations on the new gun.
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Re: New R7 owner...some advice please.
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August 03, 2011, 10:36:43 PM »
Thanks! I'll try to post some pics once it gets here w/the new scope mounted. As for the cocking arm issue rubbing the tube or whatever, does the damage actually affect the performance of the gun or is it purely a cosmetic issue over time? Also, is the R7 the only gun to suffer from this "manufacture flaw" or do all the Beeman springers exhibit this characteristic?
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Re: New R7 owner...some advice please.
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August 03, 2011, 11:22:43 PM »
I'm sure their others, I think some Gamos have the same issues.
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Re: New R7 owner...some advice please.
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August 03, 2011, 11:26:40 PM »
Does it affect the performance in any way?
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Re: New R7 owner...some advice please.
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August 03, 2011, 11:30:47 PM »
I wouldn't say performance as in it firing ,but It can make a rough cocking cycle. Here's a link for the fix.
http://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/251488/3216416.htm
Congrats on your new rifle! Great choice!
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Re: New R7 owner...some advice please.
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August 04, 2011, 07:12:51 AM »
Will installation of the cocking arm insert void the "limited lifetime warranty"?
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Re: New R7 owner...some advice please.
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August 04, 2011, 08:53:15 AM »
I think as long as you dont alter the rifle in other way and don't scratch it up and make it look like it been disassembeld the incert can be easily removed if you'd ever need to send it back to them for a repair, what voides the warrantys is when you do alterations that you can't correct! like honing and deburring and tune kits {etc} if your careful you can take them apart and no one will be the wiser and chances are you'll never need to send the gun back unless its bad right out of the box! HW builds a pretty good gun and your probly gonna want to tune it sometime anyway so if you have a good gun why would you want to send it back their easy to work on and you can do the work yourself! JMHO
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Indiana
In the words of my friend OC Bolding he told me if ur gonna Dance with DEVIL you got to wear the shoes!!!!! How true this is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
54 JUNKYARD AIRGUNS FORUM MEMBER!!!!!
When good men are silent only evil is heard!
Let he who is without SIN cast the first stone!
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chanman84
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Re: New R7 owner...some advice please.
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August 04, 2011, 11:36:34 AM »
Does the gun need to be disassembled in order to install or remove this insert?
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Re: New R7 owner...some advice please.
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August 04, 2011, 02:05:26 PM »
Yes, it needs to be fit in the cocking arm.
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Indiana
In the words of my friend OC Bolding he told me if ur gonna Dance with DEVIL you got to wear the shoes!!!!! How true this is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
54 JUNKYARD AIRGUNS FORUM MEMBER!!!!!
When good men are silent only evil is heard!
Let he who is without SIN cast the first stone!
Beeman R1 carbine .20cal X2
HW95 .22cal
HW50 .20cal X2
HW50 .22cal
HW35 .177cal
U.K. Webley Tomahawk .22cal
Diana T06 460mag .22cal
Cometa Fenix 400 compact.22cal
chanman84
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Re: New R7 owner...some advice please.
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August 04, 2011, 02:39:23 PM »
Okay, I just ordered the part. Are there instructions online anywhere that shows how to install it? I'm not so mechanically inclined so I hope it's somewhat an easy job.
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bildio
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Re: New R7 owner...some advice please.
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Reply #18 on:
August 04, 2011, 03:53:38 PM »
Also, is a gunsmith screwdriver needed, & if so what size?
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chanman84
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Re: New R7 owner...some advice please.
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Reply #19 on:
August 04, 2011, 05:40:33 PM »
I might just return the R7 and whole order back to pyramydair. I don't want to have to deal with taking apart a brand new gun from the box just to install the little insert to prevent the gun from damaging itself. Guess I'll be looking at a tx200 and hw97k now. Might even pick up another pcp. Any suggestions to some good, quiet alternatives?
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