Could a group here take over Chairgun from Hawke?

[Nvreloader]

Robin
You can use this trick, I use, for the last untold years.
I have flip up scope cap covers on all my scopes, rifle and pistols, have a very bad fine dust problems here etc.

I measure the inside diameter of the eye piece scope cap, and get those gummed stickers (self sticking type), to fit inside the cover.
After I have my shooting dope down, I note that info on the self sticky and put it inside the flip up cover,
when I open the scope cap, all the info is there and gives me the info I need at that time.

If I make/use different trajectory info, I just peel the old info off and apply the new info, always ready to use etc.

HTH's

Tia,
Don

Biggest problem is I don't shoot often enough to remember the rifle settings from one session to another.  I need that dope on my scope so I don't have to remember.

[Deckard1973]

Robin
You can use this trick, I use, for the last untold years.
I have flip up scope cap covers on all my scopes, rifle and pistols, have a very bad fine dust problems here etc.

I measure the inside diameter of the eye piece scope cap, and get those gummed stickers (self sticking type), to fit inside the cover.
After I have my shooting dope down, I note that info on the self sticky and put it inside the flip up cover,
when I open the scope cap, all the info is there and gives me the info I need at that time.

If I make/use different trajectory info, I just peel the old info off and apply the new info, always ready to use etc.

HTH's

Tia,
Don

Biggest problem is I don't shoot often enough to remember the rifle settings from one session to another.  I need that dope on my scope so I don't have to remember.

Over the winter I made up a data logbook I am going to use for different distances, compare with different apps and then tape the info to my stock. 
I do like your idea.  Might do that for my goto pellets.

[Kinetic45^]

I wanted to post to the members here the answer to a question someone asked me.

"Why don't YOU contact Hawke and see if they would be interested in doing something?"

The answer is I thought about it but there are several reasons why I have not.
1. There had to be enough interest by MULTIPLE people who would have to form a group to be in charge of it. Not many people got behind the idea. (Are you familiar with the theory that 3% of people lead and produce and the rest follow?)
2.  I'm not a good leader as I'm crude and blunt and call out dumb sh*t so not PC enough. I am creative and a problem solver (160 IQ) but always need my good ideas sold by someone else - I made a lot of money with my ideas but only after getting a spokesperson for them.
3. Sad for me but I'm making every day count because I have heart failure and could be dead any day... If I took on leadership of the project then it could fail if I was the driving force then died.  Hence needing someone else to take charge or a group to form that would survive as members came and went.

[JungleShooter]

Carl, 

that was good and frank talk in your post. I appreciate that. And your reasoning is well thought out.
I’m sorry about your heart condition. I wish you well. 


As you hinted at this already:
There are those who want to see ChairGun get a second chance to remain in our airgunning lives.
However:
Maybe we need to see how much real interest there is.... 


Maybe all you who are indeed interested could chime in!
“Interested” here means not:  “Yeah, I’m interested that others do the work and pay the bills, so I can benefit from it...”    –

● “Interested” here means = “Before my fellow airgunners I am now committing to a voluntary amount of money to support this project”.

● Or = “I’m committing to spend some time in a steering committee to move ChairGun into the next phase of life,
or writing or calling Hawke, or a programmer/ app developer, etc.”

To make this a reality I think on this forum there is more than a fair share of people who can be trusted and who have shown selfless service to our community.
For me this was a totally new experience when I joined GTA a couple of years ago – totally unexpected. That’s really awesome, especially considering how self-focused and selfish our world has become....


So, to put actions to my words:

I, Matthias, aka JungleShooter, commit to give $100 to support the maintenance of ChairGun.
I also commit to be part of some kind of steering committee, should I be selected so serve in that capacity.
April, 7, 2019
JungleShooterX@gmail.com

[JungleShooter]

Wow, so is this the end of ChairGun?
No responses, no committments, no suggestions how to keep this program working for us?   

[Kinetic45^]

Wow, so is this the end of ChairGun?
No responses, no committments, no suggestions how to keep this program working for us?   

Classic example of the 3% rule:

Watch the group dynamics anywhere, anytime and it is true.  I had hoped for others to step up or discover something in themselves. Disappointed but not surprised.

[Gerard]

I wonder about a couple of things involved with the problem at hand:

- What percentage of airgunners are software developers?

- What percentage of airgunners who use Chairgun think it needs further development, as compared to those who are fine with it as it stands?

- Has Hawke indicated that they will share the source code with anyone?

The first tso are obviously rhetorical, as we have no practical means to assess such numbers. It seems likely (though again no way of knowing for certain) that most Chairgun users don't even participate in forums. For the third, seems a simple enough thing to find out. Email Hawke and ask if they're comfortable sharing the resources needed to further develop their software. If yes, great, perhaps someone could be hired or volunteers found to work further on it. I was for years a tester on a very small team (one lead developer, two secondaries, two other testers) who took a small portable email program from a Japanese developer and worked on a UK version. No money involved for anyone. Perhaps a thousand users, perhaps 1,000,000, who knows? I still use the program (nPOPuk) on my Windows 10 tablet, wish I could on Android, but time and interest just wouldn't allow the translation from the Pocket PC platform to these new phones. It takes a lot of time. But in that case the Japanese developer of nPOP was happy to share his source code. If Hawke isn't, that's the end of this story.