Is FX Airguns really that bad?

[Wayne52]

I watched a youtube video done by FX recently and they appear to be in it for the long haul, yes they're pricey but I think once you have one you'd probably be using it for as long as you wanted to and also able to get parts from them.  There's a lot to be said about the Swede's.

[Bigragu]

I use to think FX guns were for snobs. Now 10 years later I think they are clearly setting the standards in innovation.

Ha! Hey, Travis! I used to think FX guns were for the elite folks. The ones “chosen”, lol. Always also told myself I’d never be able to own one due to their price point. That is, till I got lucky with the recent purchase of a used Wildcat, and boy oh boy, I see why folks that own one end up owning no other.

Truth be told, though, in my tiny reload room where I store my Airguns, I have one gun on the bench, exposed, filled with air and pellets in the magazine, ready for that emergency call from the neighbors for critter dispatch. Its not the WC, but my trusty Hercules Bully. The FX to me right now(still new to me) seems too fragile. I guess over time that’ll change.

[Talldog]

Got a brand new FX Impact MKII with the power plenum just last week. Leaks down 10 to 15 BAR overnight out of the box ( really !! ). Inexcusable for a rifle in this price range. Do they not do any QC on the stuff before leaving the factory. I would think they should undergo a week or so test for air integrity and so on. Fredrik .. this is unacceptable to say the least !! … don't deny it. I wont blame the dealer as the stuff they get from the factory should be spot on for a flagship airgun. Almost CDN$3,000 and I have to mess with it .. strip it down .. and change out who knows how many O-rings and hope.. upon hope .. I can make it right. I am now completely soured on it. Mat Dubber from SA may like it but he is in their back pocket .. sad. Great gun for customization, but entirely over engineered from a functional and reliability perspective. On the flip side, I've had a Daystate for 15 years that has never leaked. I fear I have made a huge mistake.

[limbshaker]

I saw earlier where FX was looking to add to their "pro staff" concerning their new line of scopes. Reminds me of a saying my boss told me once:

You either need to make a phenomenal product, or have a phenomenal advertising scheme. One doesn't need the other.

I don't have to say where I stand on the matter, this thread is so old that I probably already have lol. 

[bluethunder]

A long time friend of mine was dead set on getting another Daystate. He has had great luck with them. But we decided to attend the Pyramyd Air Cup to see the shoot. Utah Air Guns had their van there with several pro shooters. Matt Dubber was there shooting for FX too. My friend was impressed with the performance of the pros shooting their FX Impacts. So he went home and ordered an FX Impact MK II .30 cal. He didn't have it a week before it started leaking. He hasn't sent it in yet for repair but is very discouraged. He is now wishing he had stuck to his orirginal plan and purchased the Daystate. I think I read where there are 46 "O" rings in an Impact. I can't imagine how hard it would be to get all of them fit in there- perfect- without a single leak. I think it is overly complex and therefore prone to problems. I will not buy one-period.

[SC_RV6A_Pilot]

Guess I am a lucky one.  I have now had my .30 Impact Mk II for about a month and nary a leak.  Holds pressure just fine.  Gauges are accurate.  Smooth
cocking and did I mention how accurate it is.  I have had many airguns and have kept just 3.  My Marauder .25cal, my Benjie Bulldog and now the Impact.
I am just a retired guy who likes to shoot.  When I got it I cleaned the barrel, tuned over the chrony and can shoot both pellets and slugs out to 200yds.
I think people do not read the manual nor pay attention to the do's and do not's.   This gun can be ruined if you do not tune it correctly.  You must never
turn the regulator down when the gun is pressurized.  When tuning for speed, slow and small adjustments.  Again, maybe I am just lucky.

[Glem Chally]

Guess I am a lucky one.  I have now had my .30 Impact Mk II for about a month and nary a leak.  Holds pressure just fine.  Gauges are accurate.  Smooth
cocking and did I mention how accurate it is.  I have had many airguns and have kept just 3.  My Marauder .25cal, my Benjie Bulldog and now the Impact.
I am just a retired guy who likes to shoot.  When I got it I cleaned the barrel, tuned over the chrony and can shoot both pellets and slugs out to 200yds.
I think people do not read the manual nor pay attention to the do's and do not's.   This gun can be ruined if you do not tune it correctly.  You must never
turn the regulator down when the gun is pressurized.  When tuning for speed, slow and small adjustments.  Again, maybe I am just lucky.

You can adjust the reg up and down with pressure in the gun.  Just do like 1/4 turn then shoot a couple shots.  What they're talking about in the manual is for the old reg not the AMP reg.

[Glem Chally]

Got a brand new FX Impact MKII with the power plenum just last week. Leaks down 10 to 15 BAR overnight out of the box ( really !! ). Inexcusable for a rifle in this price range. Do they not do any QC on the stuff before leaving the factory. I would think they should undergo a week or so test for air integrity and so on. Fredrik .. this is unacceptable to say the least !! … don't deny it. I wont blame the dealer as the stuff they get from the factory should be spot on for a flagship airgun. Almost CDN$3,000 and I have to mess with it .. strip it down .. and change out who knows how many O-rings and hope.. upon hope .. I can make it right. I am now completely soured on it. Mat Dubber from SA may like it but he is in their back pocket .. sad. Great gun for customization, but entirely over engineered from a functional and reliability perspective. On the flip side, I've had a Daystate for 15 years that has never leaked. I fear I have made a huge mistake.

Sorry to hear that,  i don't think you've made a huge mistake.  Seems overwhelming but they're not hard to work on.  You can do things like tape a balloon over the end of the barrel and see if its leaking at the valve.  CRC leak detector found a leak i had in seconds.  Plenty of info to troubleshoot available online.   Or send it back to Travis to fix.  You can Pm me I've upgraded and modded mine quite a bit and know the platform well.  You haven't made a mistake.

[Talldog]

Not overwhelming maybe, at least I hope not. But ... the point is it should not happen at this price point. I do not usually send anything back as I prefer to fix it myself as I am experienced in working on airguns. I blame the manufacturer for this, pure and simple. High end airguns should be completely vetted and sorted at the factory before being sent to any dealers and/or customers.

[rkr]

Not overwhelming maybe, at least I hope not. But ... the point is it should not happen at this price point. I do not usually send anything back as I prefer to fix it myself as I am experienced in working on airguns. I blame the manufacturer for this, pure and simple. High end airguns should be completely vetted and sorted at the factory before being sent to any dealers and/or customers.

I think you are absolutely right. For that kind of money I would expect years and tens of thousands of shots of trouble free shooting. There are high end brands like Steyr who can provide that.

[RDB]

You totally just jinxed your Daystate. Orings have a shelf life of 15 years sealed in a bag on a shelf below 100 degrees and 75% humidity.  Not in use under pressure. It's days are numbered.  And with being human comes errors. Sad but true.  I understand your frustration.  My dealer actually airs a gun up for 24 hours and marks the gauge with a piece of painter's tape to see if it's good to go before it goes out his door. Not your dealers fault it leaked,  but a good one is worth there weight in gold to me. Had my MKII for 3months now,  6800 pellets downrange and not one hiccup.  Could be something as simple as a loose gauge. Hope you get it sorted out quickly and can enjoy your new rifle.

[Dan H]

hmmm ... it makes a guy wonder ..... for the $$$$ I would hope , and expect the gun to be sorted out before sent ,and then there is this video  .... and so maybe a wild cat .30 sniper ...  less problems 

[Glem Chally]

hmmm ... it makes a guy wonder ..... for the $$$$ I would hope , and expect the gun to be sorted out before sent ,and then there is this video  .... and so maybe a wild cat .30 sniper ...  less problems 

By the logic in this video the Royale is also more adjustable than the impact.  As it has tp adjustment, reg adjustable (not external) and HST adjustment.  A couple things i think he's missing is the fact that hes using the valve control minimally.  Also the HST wheel has about 70% of the hammer adjustment available.  You can set it on the low end for the bottom 70% set it up a bit to get the middle 70, or higher to get the top 70%.  That combined with his "set and forget" usage of the valve adjuster limits its capability.

There is much more adjustment available on the impact than the crown.   That is a fact, also more power potential. 

Crown doesn't have a set screw to adjust the HST slider, and doesn't have valve damping adjustment but its "more adjustable" ok. 

[PikeP]

80 Range cards on the crown versus 14 on the impact though! 

Having a valve damper / buffer makes the impact far more tune-able...but hes probably right with 'adjust-ability' in terms of throwing out a different number across the chronograph...I mean, who doesn't want 80 range cards! 

On another note, that's the first time I've really seen a 2" moderator on the end of an airgun...annnnnd.......LMBO. That thing would have to drop me around 10+ db to even consider the hideousness of such sticking off the end of my airgun...

[BSJ]

hmmm ... it makes a guy wonder ..... for the $$$$ I would hope , and expect the gun to be sorted out before sent ,and then there is this video  .... and so maybe a wild cat .30 sniper ...  less problems 

By the logic in this video the Royale is also more adjustable than the impact.  As it has tp adjustment, reg adjustable (not external) and HST adjustment.  A couple things i think he's missing is the fact that hes using the valve control minimally.  Also the HST wheel has about 70% of the hammer adjustment available.  You can set it on the low end for the bottom 70% set it up a bit to get the middle 70, or higher to get the top 70%.  That combined with his "set and forget" usage of the valve adjuster limits its capability.

There is much more adjustment available on the impact than the crown.   That is a fact, also more power potential. 

Crown doesn't have a set screw to adjust the HST slider, and doesn't have valve damping adjustment but its "more adjustable" ok. 

The Crown does have the HST adjuster screw. You just have to remove the gun from the stock to adjust it.

[SC_RV6A_Pilot]

You can adjust the reg up and down with pressure in the gun.  Just do like 1/4 turn then shoot a couple shots.  What they're talking about in the manual is for the old reg not the AMP reg.

Glem, thanks for the information.  The manual still says to depressurize the gun first.  All I know is that I am MORE than happy with my Impact.

[BSJ]

You can adjust the reg up and down with pressure in the gun.  Just do like 1/4 turn then shoot a couple shots.  What they're talking about in the manual is for the old reg not the AMP reg.

Glem, thanks for the information.  The manual still says to depressurize the gun first.  All I know is that I am MORE than happy with my Impact.

Send an email to FX USA with your serial number to verify what reg. you have. I wasted a lot of air that I didn't have too because I followed the manual...

[SC_RV6A_Pilot]

You can adjust the reg up and down with pressure in the gun.  Just do like 1/4 turn then shoot a couple shots.  What they're talking about in the manual is for the old reg not the AMP reg.

Glem, thanks for the information.  The manual still says to depressurize the gun first.  All I know is that I am MORE than happy with my Impact.

BSJ,  I have a month old MkII.  It does have the AMP reg.  But I will e-mail John at FX USA anyway.

[anti-squirrel]

Certain models of the FX guns really appeal to me:

The simple designs with minimal complexity.

Why?  8 years of working on way-overly-complex HP air and hydraulic system with between dozens and hundreds of o-rings (and retainers) for Uncle Sam.

The Impact and it's brethren are fine guns; the latest generation especially...  But you can see by my signature which higher-end PCPs I prefer.  Simpler and more rugged designs.

[Nomadic Pirate]

I'm sure FX are great guns,......But there's no excuse for a 2+ Grand gun not to be operational out the box and for years and years without the need to touch it.