Any US importers carrying this gun?

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Bantam Style Walnut Stock. only 3 days of work and much better in-letting than the first stock.

Wow!  When you get bored let me know, I’ll buy you a nice walnut board and you can make me one!  LOL!  That is going to be amazing when it’s finished!!!

Thanks Paul. If I get good at this I may take you up on that.

I would certainly be honored if you did!  You have some amazing woodworking skills!

[Orion]

Hi all,

Here is a video I did for a string shot on my Nova Liberty out of the box.



I think it's shooting above average compared with what you are getting out of the box right?

[Abefroman]

what pellet were you using

[FuzzyGrub]

Hi all,
Here is a video I did for a string shot on my Nova Liberty out of the box.
I think it's shooting above average compared with what you are getting out of the box right?

I went right to Keith's graph.   

From a data standpoint, it is better to average the double feed from the shot ahead of and behind vs deleting. 
Deleting impacts the efficiency and shot count results.  Same with any chrony errors.

[Orion]

what pellet were you using

I was using the CPHP 14.3, I forgot to mention that on the video, but it's on the description.

[Orion]

Hi all,
Here is a video I did for a string shot on my Nova Liberty out of the box.
I think it's shooting above average compared with what you are getting out of the box right?

I went right to Keith's graph.   

From a data standpoint, it is better to average the double feed from the shot ahead of and behind vs deleting. 
Deleting impacts the efficiency and shot count results.  Same with any chrony errors.

Good idea! I had only a single Error, but it's true, the shot count on the graph is affected also the efficiency... Thanks for the heads up! I deleted them because the ES was on the roof with those 2 double feedings

[SoCalZac]

Hi all,

Here is a video I did for a string shot on my Nova Liberty out of the box.



I think it's shooting above average compared with what you are getting out of the box right?

Good job on the video it looks like your gun is shooting where mine is after I opened up the barrel port/shimmed HS/and turned up the regulator but seems to be about where Steven’s guns were shooting out of the box.

[Hawkeye51]

Steve

Can't wait to see your sporter stock. At some point this spring, I'm going to try & modify my original stock to loose a couple of pounds. (new long beach-wood  diet) Shorten a tad, and maybe try to skeletonize the butt.

I would love to see some type of a semi bull pup configuration. Steal some linkage from something else and try it out. With the lever action, and the way it's weight is balanced, it would be well suited. All I need is a wood shop, two helpers a guide book (how to) and a couple of weeks off work, he, he.

Post more pics as you get them.

[AVS Stephen]

Steve

Can't wait to see your sporter stock. At some point this spring, I'm going to try & modify my original stock to loose a couple of pounds. (new long beach-wood  diet) Shorten a tad, and maybe try to skeletonize the butt.

I would love to see some type of a semi bull pup configuration. Steal some linkage from something else and try it out. With the lever action, and the way it's weight is balanced, it would be well suited. All I need is a wood shop, two helpers a guide book (how to) and a couple of weeks off work, he, he.

Post more pics as you get them.

This is my current progress on the bantam style stock after 7 days of work. Much better in-letting.  I would be very curious to see what you come up with. maybe I can feed off of your ideas as well. Thank you

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Anyone else having issues with double feeding os pellets in these?  Maybe it's the .177 more than the .22 due to the size of the pellets, but I've had the barrel off this rifle more than another I own due to it double feeding pellets! 

[Orion]

Anyone else having issues with double feeding os pellets in these?  Maybe it's the .177 more than the .22 due to the size of the pellets, but I've had the barrel off this rifle more than another I own due to it double feeding pellets!

If you see my last video, you will see that in 80 shots I got 2 double feeding. I don’t know if it was me or something weird in the magazines but it happened twice.

[AVS Stephen]

Anyone else having issues with double feeding os pellets in these?  Maybe it's the .177 more than the .22 due to the size of the pellets, but I've had the barrel off this rifle more than another I own due to it double feeding pellets!

If you see my last video, you will see that in 80 shots I got 2 double feeding. I don’t know if it was me or something weird in the magazines but it happened twice.

It happened to me twice but never again. You have to be very methodical when you cycle the side lever. All the way back and comment to cocking forward. I have shot hundreds of rounds using the magazine with no more double feeds.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Anyone else having issues with double feeding os pellets in these?  Maybe it's the .177 more than the .22 due to the size of the pellets, but I've had the barrel off this rifle more than another I own due to it double feeding pellets!

If you see my last video, you will see that in 80 shots I got 2 double feeding. I don’t know if it was me or something weird in the magazines but it happened twice.

It happened to me twice but never again. You have to be very methodical when you cycle the side lever. All the way back and comment to cocking forward. I have shot hundreds of rounds using the magazine with no more double feeds.

Anyone else having issues with double feeding os pellets in these?  Maybe it's the .177 more than the .22 due to the size of the pellets, but I've had the barrel off this rifle more than another I own due to it double feeding pellets!

If you see my last video, you will see that in 80 shots I got 2 double feeding. I don’t know if it was me or something weird in the magazines but it happened twice.

Do you guys have the .22 or .177?  I'm wondering if it worse with the .177 due to the smaller pellets?  I try to be very precise and methodical when cycling the rounds because it happens so frequently with my rifle, but it still happens.  I have even had instances where a pellet will jump from the magazine and end up jammed sideways in the breech side by the probe.  You wouldn't think there would be enough clearance for this to happen, but it has more frequently than you'd think!

[AVS Stephen]

Anyone else having issues with double feeding os pellets in these?  Maybe it's the .177 more than the .22 due to the size of the pellets, but I've had the barrel off this rifle more than another I own due to it double feeding pellets!

If you see my last video, you will see that in 80 shots I got 2 double feeding. I don’t know if it was me or something weird in the magazines but it happened twice.

It happened to me twice but never again. You have to be very methodical when you cycle the side lever. All the way back and comment to cocking forward. I have shot hundreds of rounds using the magazine with no more double feeds.

Anyone else having issues with double feeding os pellets in these?  Maybe it's the .177 more than the .22 due to the size of the pellets, but I've had the barrel off this rifle more than another I own due to it double feeding pellets!

If you see my last video, you will see that in 80 shots I got 2 double feeding. I don’t know if it was me or something weird in the magazines but it happened twice.

Do you guys have the .22 or .177?  I'm wondering if it worse with the .177 due to the smaller pellets?  I try to be very precise and methodical when cycling the rounds because it happens so frequently with my rifle, but it still happens.  I have even had instances where a pellet will jump from the magazine and end up jammed sideways in the breech side by the probe.  You wouldn't think there would be enough clearance for this to happen, but it has more frequently than you'd think!

That sounds like the magazine is no good. What I mean by no good is that the precision of the wheel and outer magazine have too much play and that will cause pellets to fall through. That was a problem I had with My Crosman 2240 HPA builds a few years back. Wade cutters worked well while pointy pellets fell trough. I ended up using epoxy to tighten the diameter the exit and loading holes. It was not pretty.

I think Marauder Magazines are better made

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

I have not tried a Marauder Magazine.  I did purchase a couple Gauntlet mags as spares because those seemed to fit the breech opening better, they are just a tad thicker.  But, I have the same issues with those.  It does seem the opening in the clear cover is larger than it should be.  I measured the opening on the .177 (4.5mm), the .22 (5.5mm) and the .25 (6.5mm), the opening for the .177 mag is 1.2mm larger than the pellet size (5.7mm).  When I measured the .22 and .25 the opening is less than .5mm larger than the pellet size (5.9mm and 6.9mm).  So, that may be why the .177 pellets are popping out so easily.

[Orion]

I have not tried a Marauder Magazine.  I did purchase a couple Gauntlet mags as spares because those seemed to fit the breech opening better, they are just a tad thicker.  But, I have the same issues with those.  It does seem the opening in the clear cover is larger than it should be.  I measured the opening on the .177 (4.5mm), the .22 (5.5mm) and the .25 (6.5mm), the opening for the .177 mag is 1.2mm larger than the pellet size (5.7mm).  When I measured the .22 and .25 the opening is less than .5mm larger than the pellet size (5.9mm and 6.9mm).  So, that may be why the .177 pellets are popping out so easily.

Paul, I have the .22

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

I have not tried a Marauder Magazine.  I did purchase a couple Gauntlet mags as spares because those seemed to fit the breech opening better, they are just a tad thicker.  But, I have the same issues with those.  It does seem the opening in the clear cover is larger than it should be.  I measured the opening on the .177 (4.5mm), the .22 (5.5mm) and the .25 (6.5mm), the opening for the .177 mag is 1.2mm larger than the pellet size (5.7mm).  When I measured the .22 and .25 the opening is less than .5mm larger than the pellet size (5.9mm and 6.9mm).  So, that may be why the .177 pellets are popping out so easily.

Paul, I have the .22

Thanks.  I'm half tempted to call ATI and see if they will swap me a .22 for the .177 since the .22 doesn't seem to have the issues I'm having with the .177!

[Wheelman]

I tried using the Crosman Trail sound suppressor baffle in my Liberty.
Instead of drilling both of the first barriers so the entire baffle slid into shroud I just drilled the threaded end barrier and then cut enough off the other end so I could put the cap on the shroud. (Hope that made sense).

What I found was with the baffle inserted the sound level was noticabley reduced and on lower power the accuracy was not affected.
With the power set on high the accuracy was negatively affected, at least with CPHP pellets, the pellets were tumbling when they impacted the target.
When I removed the baffle the accuracy was the same at both power levels.

My conclusion is that the baffle causes issues for pellets traveling at the speeds produced on the high power setting.
The reduction in sound isn't enough to make it worth keeping the baffle installed and using only the low power setting.

Wheelman

[kzz1kaw]

I tried using the Crosman Trail sound suppressor baffle in my Liberty.
Instead of drilling both of the first barriers so the entire baffle slid into shroud I just drilled the threaded end barrier and then cut enough off the other end so I could put the cap on the shroud. (Hope that made sense).

What I found was with the baffle inserted the sound level was noticabley reduced and on lower power the accuracy was not affected.
With the power set on high the accuracy was negatively affected, at least with CPHP pellets, the pellets were tumbling when they impacted the target.
When I removed the baffle the accuracy was the same at both power levels.

My conclusion is that the baffle causes issues for pellets traveling at the speeds produced on the high power setting.
The reduction in sound isn't enough to make it worth keeping the baffle installed and using only the low power setting.

Wheelman

Noted thanks for the heads up👍🏾😎

[USAFANG6799]

 Crosman Trail sound suppressor baffle in my Liberty: I removed mine and went with an Moderator.
It did reduce the db but the most notable change is it eliminated the "high pitch crack noise" that it had.
Much quieter than the Marauder. Forgot the db difference but very noticeable in basement and outside.