Anymore Scoop on Stoeger F40 Under lever?



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Anymore Scoop on Stoeger F40 Under lever?
« on: September 25, 2018, 06:45:30 PM »
Anyone with hands on experience with this new taploader?  It's got my curiosity up.
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Re: Anymore Scoop on Stoeger F40 Under lever?
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2018, 01:02:35 AM »
Is this the same as the Chinese B40?  Or is it something else entirely?
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Re: Anymore Scoop on Stoeger F40 Under lever?
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2018, 02:10:33 AM »
No, Thomas I think Richard is talking about the F40 from Stoeger.
I could not find d much about it except the info on the Stoeger US website:
Wich is here:
https://usa.stoegerairguns.com/f40-underlever
Or on the international website from Stoeger, but there is also not much more info about it there
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Re: Anymore Scoop on Stoeger F40 Under lever?
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2018, 02:13:41 AM »
Is this the same as the Chinese B40?  Or is it something else entirely?


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After playing with hw57....not a taploader fan

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Re: Anymore Scoop on Stoeger F40 Under lever?
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2018, 11:15:59 AM »
It's definitely a tap loader which unfortunately rules out B40/TX clone. Stoeger seems to like B19 platforms so I'm taking a stab at HW57/B19 power plant/trigger crossover but could be totally off base here..
I do know it's on the market but primarily off shore.
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Re: Anymore Scoop on Stoeger F40 Under lever?
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2018, 01:41:10 PM »
Maybe you have seen this thread; here it is again in case you haven't.

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=123137.0

If you want an underlever that shoots EXTREMELY accurately, has good build quality, is lighter than a HW77/97, easy to work on, easy to cock, convenient and safe to load, and a moderate price; find a discontinued Diana 46. They use the same piston seal and spring kit as a Diana 34/36.

But the Diana/RWS 46 is only a 12 foot pound gun in .177, and a touch more
in .22. The occasional one will only do  11 foot pounds in .177, they need one or both of their breech seals shimmed a bit for full power.

They weigh 8.5 pounds unscoped.

I have shot many many 50 yard groups with two .177 Diana 46's. My TX200 and HW77 will out shoot these two 46's at 50, BUT ONLY BY A TINY FRACTION OF AN INCH. They are essentially equal.

A penny at 50 yards is rarely missed with my 46's, and if a small grasshopper lands it's life is in serious danger.



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Re: Anymore Scoop on Stoeger F40 Under lever?
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2018, 02:32:36 PM »
I'm familiar with the thread Jmars and also, the D46. Incidentally, there's a 46e .22 currently listed in the classifieds.
I would've purchased a used 46 if I could have found one in .177 at the time of the search. Instead I opted for a T6 460  and detuned it. I never heard of accuracy issues with the 46, unlike the HW57. I did read about the lower power, especially in .22. Some of it was the breech seal (s) issue, but most of the power loss in .22 was the long transfer port as I understand it. I really like the idea of a tap loader..
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Re: Anymore Scoop on Stoeger F40 Under lever?
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2018, 04:46:30 PM »
I'm familiar with the thread Jmars and also, the D46. Incidentally, there's a 46e .22 currently listed in the classifieds.
I would've purchased a used 46 if I could have found one in .177 at the time of the search. Instead I opted for a T6 460  and detuned it. I never heard of accuracy issues with the 46, unlike the HW57. I did read about the lower power, especially in .22. Some of it was the breech seal (s) issue, but most of the power loss in .22 was the long transfer port as I understand it. I really like the idea of a tap loader..

Hello Richard,
A well sealed 46 in .22 tends to shoot a little harder than a .177, but there is less than one foot pound difference.

The 46e in the classifieds has a checkered stock from a deluxe model. That would be a great deal
for someone that wanted a top quality underlever for a bargain price, and felt 12-13 foot pounds sufficient.

None of the guns in this thread are tap loaders. I think that the last of the tap loaders were the BSA Airsporter and Stutzen, the Webley Tracker (Barnett Spitfire), and Osprey, and also Air Arms made several models.

The Air Arms guns were side lever cockers that either came dressed as assault rifles, or with elegant walnut stocks.
I purchased one with the assault rifle look for a great price on an auction site
"buy it now".
It had an extremely heavy wire mainspring, a horrible shot cycle, and a crappy trigger.
There are buyers out there that snap them up, so it was easily sold for a nice profit.

The HW57, Gamo cf20/30, and the Stoeger F40 have "pop up Breeches" that are sometimes generically called tap loaders.

The 46 receiver tube is smaller in diameter than the 460 because it has no sliding compression chamber, and they are so convenient to load!

Nice "chatting" with you Sir!


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Re: Anymore Scoop on Stoeger F40 Under lever?
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2018, 04:50:18 PM »
Well, after looking around and searches via Google I have found not much more info about this F40.
The only so called reviews I have found was over an new Zealand airgun forum.
And that was not to specific about fps for accuracy and much else, stated only that it looked like to the buyer that the gun is more cappabpe than himself and that the included scope is a good value, and yes that he had a hard time loading it with his sausage fingers.
But I found an online store that lists them in their assortment.
They list it in .177 with or without scope and in .22 also with scope or without.
The .177 scope combo would go for $175.00 and without $150.00.
Here is the link for the .177 combo:
https://www.eurooptic.com/Stoeger-F40-Underlever-177cal-Hardwood-Stock-w-3-9x40-Scope-Airgun-30336.aspx
Hope that will help a little bit.
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Re: Anymore Scoop on Stoeger F40 Under lever?
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2018, 05:33:52 PM »
At that price point we may see it show up at a big box retailer? I hope so I would love to have one.
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Re: Anymore Scoop on Stoeger F40 Under lever?
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2018, 06:16:25 PM »
Oh yeah, here is the link to the only so called reviews I have found via Google.
http://nzairgun.com/forum/index.php?topic=2315.0
Like I said a little earlier, really nothing specific about a review.
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Re: Anymore Scoop on Stoeger F40 Under lever?
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2018, 06:18:28 PM »
Backordered at Europtic. After a little more look over I'm betting 10 to one the gun is a CF 20-30 Redux.
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Re: Anymore Scoop on Stoeger F40 Under lever?
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2018, 06:48:04 PM »
Richard, oh forgot to mention the on backorder thing, sorry.
Could be that it is a CF 20 or 30 copy, have never seen any or a picture of them either.
Looks like it is time to get the big Blue Book of Airguns.
Hope it's all good.
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Benjamin Trail NP2 synthetic, .177 cal.(late Birthday gift from in-laws)
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Crosman CR 357 Vigilante, .177cal.
Daisy Powerline 340 BB spring, .177 cal. BB.

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Re: Anymore Scoop on Stoeger F40 Under lever?
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2018, 07:17:52 PM »
Pop up breach instead of flip up is what leads me that direction. If so, more likely than not the trigger is a Gamo clone too, maybe, with a little luck even the later style SAT/CAT cassette type iow.. (CDT) GRT III or IV blade candidates. Not a great trigger by any stretch but tolerable if the gun is otherwise stellar enough to offset the deficiency.
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Re: Anymore Scoop on Stoeger F40 Under lever?
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2018, 08:12:32 PM »
Just looked at the review from New Zealand. Now we know that the rifle was produced.
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Re: Anymore Scoop on Stoeger F40 Under lever?
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2018, 12:53:11 AM »
No safety in the trigger guard. Safety at the back of the powerplant?

Maybe Stoeger had the D46 cloned? That would be cool.
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