Any one ever heard of the Dynamic PCP air rifle?

[Wolverineshooter]

I think AIM was confusing. Ed offered me either return to SG for refund or sent to AIM for replacement, I chose to repair myself. Only after a month my DAR leaked again, I started to contact AIM to see if I can be in queue for a replacement with upgraded, but could not reach any one then. Now this letter suddenly leaves no options.

[Gertrude]

Now this letter suddenly leaves no options.

"no options" ? ? ?
 here is a copy/paste of the options, directly from the above attached letter.


1. Full Refund - Contact the Authorized DAR Air Rifle Dealer that you purchased the rifle from, Sportsman’s
Guide, for return instructions and a subsequent full refund. Please contact them as soon as possible to initiate the
refund process to ensure that the transaction is completed before the Dec. 1st deadline.

2. "Trade-in Program"- DAR will work directly with you to take back your current Gen 1 model. Once we receive
your rifle you will be put on a list for a replacement out of the first units of our new and improved 2nd Gen. models
for the caliber (s) you traded-in. We anticipate that these new models will become available in the 1st quarter of
2019. This trade-up carries no additional cost to you. To take advantage of this option contact us at:
RMA@aimsportsinc.com as soon as possible. To speed up the process, please be sure to include the following
information in your initial email: Full Name, mailing address, contact E-mail, Phone number, Caliber and the serial
number of your current 1st Gen. Air Rifle(s).

[deerflyguy]

Paul:
After they received the guns, it took about a week before SG mailed my refund checks to me, and then 6 or 7 calendar days for the refund checks to reach me via snail mail. The checks were deposited into my credit union account and have not yet bounced!
Bill

[Wolverineshooter]

Ok Ron that is good. I will contact them for trade in. 1st quarter 2019 sounds good to.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Paul:
After they received the guns, it took about a week before SG mailed my refund checks to me, and then 6 or 7 calendar days for the refund checks to reach me via snail mail. The checks were deposited into my credit union account and have not yet bounced!
Bill

Thank Bill!

[Wayne52]

Is there anyone that's keeping their Gen 1's besides me, I think I seen Jason say that he was going to keep his DAR25

[nervoustrigger]

Wayne, that’s right.  Everything is sorted out on my .25 cal and it’s a great shooter so I’m keeping it.  Not the slightest struggle with that decision. 

[Bob Pratl]

Is there anyone that's keeping their Gen 1's besides me, I think I seen Jason say that he was going to keep his DAR25

I'm keeping my DAR .25

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

I would have kept my .25 also, but after talking to Aim and being told parts would no longer be available, I decided to return it since I don't have the means to produce parts on my own if needed in the future.  I'm looking forward to the release of the Gen 2 and the continued support by Aim.  I fully expect the new model will surpass the first generation in function and reliability!

[deerflyguy]

My story regarding the Gen 1 DAR Dynamic guns that I bought, and food for thought to those who are keeping their guns vs those who sent them back  for a refund.

When Ryan was the DAR representative, in discussion with him regarding the early advertising of all Dynamics, he agreed to a point that I made to him that the Dynamics were sold as "walnut stocked", not walnut stained as they arrived. I told him that the walnut stocks were a prime reason that I was sold on their products, and that Walnut stained hardwood (no matter how good it looked) is not as valuable as true walnut, and is why I bought all three calibers, and that they needed to make some sort of consideration to me to make it right. It seems that most, if not all of you, were willing to overlook that detail, but I wasn't. I was open to any reasonable offer on their part.

Eventually, because there would not be replacement walnut stocks to send me, and no partial refund was ever offered (at that time), knowing that I always wanted to purchase spare magazines anyway, Ryan offered to send me three magazines for each gun - 9 total. That was a reasonable resolution to my thinking, and I sat waiting for the mags, but they never came. Ryan went on to other things, and you know the final resolve to the story of the DAR Dynamics.

As it were, I was told that Ryan didn't leave much in the line of communication to his successor, no one knew about our deal regarding the 9 mags, and I doubt that AimSport would have ever come through for me with those extra mags - but who knows? Anyway, with no spare parts to come, no mags available except for the one that came with each caliber gun, and the guns being recalled, I saw no other feasible decision to be made except to return the guns for a monetary refund, and re purchase the Gen 2 models when they become available, and then only after they are proven a tried and true successful replacement for the Gen 1 guns.

I think that those of you who are keeping your guns are making a big mistake. With only one magazine and no replacements yet available, only a promise to have them available in the future, what are you going to do if your one magazine breaks, or more likely you misplace it? You might be capable to repair the internal components of your guns, but how many of you are capable of manufacturing your own mags? Do you really think that AimSport is going to do a production run of magazines (in 3 different calibers) for the small handful of you guys who are keeping your Gen 1 guns? I find that hard to believe? Unless Aimsport parts out the guns that have been returned for refunds and amasses a small pile of used mags and spare parts for those who kept their Gen 1 guns and might want one or more in the future, what are you guys going to do?

~ deerflyguy

[Hoople]

I am keeping both mine. No hesitation.

[Wayne52]

From what I gather from what Gertrude (Ron) was saying about his last communication with AimSports is the magazines will be available in the first quarter of 2019 and I'll definitely be getting a spare for all mine, especially the .177 and .22 because having a couple with me for the .22 and 3 for the .117 is a must when out hunting.  As far as parts go hopefully people will be able to buy parts for them too because I doubt very much that any of the major parts will be changed too much, it sounds to me like the o rings were about the biggest issue with these guns.

[Wolverineshooter]

From what I gather from what Gertrude (Ron) was saying about his last communication with AimSports is the magazines will be available in the first quarter of 2019 and I'll definitely be getting a spare for all mine, especially the .177 and .22 because having a couple with me for the .22 and 3 for the .117 is a must when out hunting.  As far as parts go hopefully people will be able to buy parts for them too because I doubt very much that any of the major parts will be changed too much, it sounds to me like the o rings were about the biggest issue with these guns.

I am not sure if they are going to just fix o-rings or have a major overhaul. If the former then keeping them would be a fine option. But if they want to up the ante giving the competition then there could be major changes. I have called them to give me a clue but they could not tell. If they are going to deliver by 1st quarter next year then I am sure they should have the design finalized.

[Wayne52]

My initial thoughts about my 25 cal when I first got it weren't all that good because I was kinda thinking down the line that Bill (deerflyguy) was about not getting the walnut stock that they claimed, that was a real letdown until I found how easy it was to achieve 60+fpe by only adjusting these guns.  There's no way you can take an out of the box 25 cal Mrod or a 25 cal out of the box SPAM16 for that matter and adjust them with what you have to even get close the energy that I can get from my DAR25.  They have some really innovative perks on them the others don't.  One big one would have to be the hammer sleeve that's in them, it's simply much slipperier than the metal to metal contact you're going to get from the others.  I'm guessing that a person will be paying much more than the $250 that I paid for mine and it will probably be more like $350-$399 when all is said and done.

Time will tell . . . .

[Bob Pratl]

My initial thoughts about my 25 cal when I first got it weren't all that good because I was kinda thinking down the line that Bill (deerflyguy) was about not getting the walnut stock that they claimed, that was a real letdown until I found how easy it was to achieve 60+fpe by only adjusting these guns.  There's no way you can take an out of the box 25 cal Mrod or a 25 cal out of the box SPAM16 for that matter and adjust them with what you have to even get close the energy that I can get from my DAR25.  They have some really innovative perks on them the others don't.  One big one would have to be the hammer sleeve that's in them, it's simply much slipperier than the metal to metal contact you're going to get from the others.  I'm guessing that a person will be paying much more than the $250 that I paid for mine and it will probably be more like $350-$399 when all is said and done.Time will tell . . . .

All great points and the same reasons that I planned on keeping mine. Other than much better quality O-Rings and quality control it's hard to improve on the platform and features that DAR's have for the same money.

[Hoople]

I worry about not having a spare mag for my DARs. Hopefully Aim Sports will come through. Meantime I made up a couple single shot trays for them. I don't have a metal shop but do have a nice wood shop. Just a slip fit. They work great.

[Wayne52]

Supposedly the mags for them will be available the first quarter next year.

[Wolverineshooter]

Good candidate for 3d printing if you have a 3D printer

[RVaughn]

Is there anyone that's keeping their Gen 1's besides me, I think I seen Jason say that he was going to keep his DAR25

I am Wayne,  mines a .177 cal.
 I must of got lucky
I had to tear into mine once to remove the teflon tape that was under the o-rings and replace them. But it has been holding fine since then ..
I love mine and it's very accurate with JSB monsters!  Last time I counted I got about 55 shots @ around 830fps on reg.

It ain't going anywhere! Lol

[Wolverineshooter]

Great Rhett you got a good .177. Mine has accuracy problem plus leaking. Could be that I need to try more pellets. My 0.25 is very accurate with Benjamins