Any one ever heard of the Dynamic PCP air rifle?

[deerflyguy]

That is an option, but why would anybody take it?
There is absolutely no way of knowing that the 2nd generation guns will ever make it to market, and if they do, when they might arrive? I think it is much simpler (and smarter) to take the generous offer of return, get your money back, and then, if the 2nd generation guns are ever sold, just buy them at that time!

[Wolverineshooter]

I hope if they could not deliver the 2nd generation then they should refund. Of course there is always the chance the company will belly up and we may end with a loss

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

That is an option, but why would anybody take it?
There is absolutely no way of knowing that the 2nd generation guns will ever make it to market, and if they do, when they might arrive? I think it is much simpler (and smarter) to take the generous offer of return, get your money back, and then, if the 2nd generation guns are ever sold, just buy them at that time!

Well, apparently that is the only option as far as SG is concerned!  I spoke with them and Aim Sports this morning.  According to Aim, there was a letter that supposedly went out to all SG Customers who purchased the DAR air rifles that gave the option of being put on a reservation list for the 2nd generation DAR air rifles, or receive a refund.  I never received this letter. 

According to SG, the only option is a refund back to the payment source used to purchase the air rifles.  In my case that's the SG Visa, which is paid off each month so I don't pay interest charges.  I did speak to the folks at the SG Card Services and they assured me they can transfer the funds to my Checking Account once the funds are back on the card, so the money won't be held hostage to only be used for future purchases from SG!  BTW, one was purchased on July 3rd, the other on Aug 22nd, so I guess I'll have to wait and see how they get processed.

Anyway, both DAR air rifles went back today and once they receive them, I should receive a refund.  At this point, I'm not sure if I'll be purchasing the 2nd generation DAR even if it does materialize in the future.  I preordered an Evanix Air Speed from JSAR and once the refund processes, those funds will be going toward that air rifle.  Hopefully, I'll have better luck with it!

The last few air rifle purchases I have made lately have been real lemons!  First the 2 DAR air rifles with all their issues and then the Hatsan BullBoss with all it's issues!  It's boxed up also awaiting a response from HatsanUSA and hopefully a return label as well.  I've requested a refund for it also and those funds will go toward the Air Speed as well.  What an ordeal these last few air gun purchases have been.  I'm certainly hopefully the Evanix will be a quality air rifle without any issues!

[nervoustrigger]

If they will honor the original price on the 2nd gen, a refund is preferable for sure.  I paid $200 and I have some concern the new model will be back up around the $300 price point.  Even considering the amount of effort I have in mine, I feel like that was a steal.  I suppose that's because I generally do a full takedown/deburr/polish on all my rifles so it's really no different in that respect.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

If they will honor the original price on the 2nd gen, a refund is preferable for sure.  I paid $200 and I have some concern the new model will be back up around the $300 price point.  Even considering the amount of effort I have in mine, I feel like that was a steal.  I suppose that's because I generally do a full takedown/deburr/polish on all my rifles so it's really no different in that respect.

Jason, f I had the resources and skills, I probably would have kept these.  I also got a good deal, especially on there DAR25 where it was on sale, and fear the 2nd generation will increase in price due to the additional effort needed to make them right.  But, with my limited skills and resources, I'm afraid I'd end up with a couple broken, orphaned air rifles that I can't get parts or service for.  At this point, that's not a chance I'm willing to take.  It's a shame though, both were very powerful and accurate air guns!  I guess I'll wait and see what the 2nd generation have to offer...

[Wolverineshooter]

I never received the letter either. Ed never mentioned that in his email to me.

I am probably less skilled than most of you here so I am still debating what to do. I guess by the next year we will have better and cheaper models, given the low price of the hand pumps (and electric pumps too). PCPs may go the way the break barrels went, with companies competing on lower prices

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

I never received the letter either. Ed never mentioned that in his email to me.

I am probably less skilled than most of you here so I am still debating what to do. I guess by the next year we will have better and cheaper models, given the low price of the hand pumps (and electric pumps too). PCPs may go the way the break barrels went, with companies competing on lower prices

I wouldn't wait too long, I don't know exactly how long Aim and SG will be offering the refunds, but I was told it won't be for very much longer, which is what prompted me to send them back now...  Aim is supposed to be sending me a copy of the letter, I'll let you know when I receive it.

[Wayne52]

I've got all three and plan on keeping them all, I head shot a red squirrel with the .25 at about 35 yards in the head today with it, the darned things are accurate.

[WeaselCat]

My 177 still has a slow leak after replacing the tube and reg orings with 90 duro as suggested. I really like the rifle and hate to give up but I just don't have time for it right now while remodeling my son's first house.

I guess I'll get ahold of SG for a refund. BTW: I never received a letter regarding refund or replacement.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

I have a sneaking hunch SG never sent the letters out. It sounded to me like Aim Sports sent the letter to SG and SG was supposed to contact everyone who purchased one, which makes sense since SG would have the sales records not Aim.

[Wayne52]

SG never got hold of me until I tried getting the barrel band and bad screws from them, they said to send it back to them for a refund but wouldn't send the parts, that's about the time Ryan got hold of me and sent me the parts.

[gendoc]

are these still available to purchase ?  where at ??
SG shows discontinued....

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

are these still available to purchase ?  where at ??
SG shows discontinued....

John,  the 1st generation has been pulled and recalled due to the issues with the seals and a couple other things. They are no longer available for sale. The 2nd generation is supposed to be available sometime in the 2nd quarter of 2019.

[gendoc]

are these still available to purchase ?  where at ??
SG shows discontinued....

John,  the 1st generation has been pulled and recalled due to the issues with the seals and a couple other things. They are no longer available for sale. The 2nd generation is supposed to be available sometime in the 2nd quarter of 2019.

ok, thanks...i will be waiting

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

They were awesome little air rifles despite their issues. The .177 was an absolute laser!  H&N Sniper Mediums at 990fps stacking one on top of another, and it held its POI!  Side lever, regulated and had a 14 round magazine!  It was definitely worth the money spent on it, and if it weren’t for the fact it’s essentially been orphaned with no parts or service available, I’d have kept it!!!  It was really hard to let it go!

[Wayne52]

Paul I flipped a coin to see which gun I packed tomorrow, the DAR177 won over the Prod.  They're both pretty darned quiet too is why I opted for these two to flip on.  I'm going for the stealth mode in the morning, I even have a blind to sit in that's been there for a long time.  I'm thinking it's probably someone's deer blind from a year or two ago, it's even got a chair in it but I'm bringing a bucket to sit on.  I'll be using the JSB 13.43 grain in it.  I made sure the mag is full and I'll keep pellets with me too.  I'm getting about 25fpe with it which will even be capable of a raccoon if I happen to see one.  I haven't used it in quite a while and the pressure is already topped off from the last time I was thinking about using it.

[deerflyguy]

My bet is that absolutely NOBODY got a letter, an email, or a phone call, regarding any recall of the DAR DYNAMIC. If a copy of a letter turns up, almost assuredly it will be a fake! I bought three DAR's in all calibers on two occasions, and never got a letter! Were it not for this forum, I wouldn't have known about it!

I'd like to hear from anybody who got a letter? So far nobody admits to getting one?

[Wayne52]

It's the first time that I seen a gun just appear without any previews of it prior to putting up for sale on a website.  I'm almost thinking these guns were put together in late 2017 but really don't know for sure.  I haven't seen another with the bulbous shaped mono block like these either, they're a unique design if you ask me.  They've sure got thick barrels on them too.  I really like the whole design myself, the hammer slides so smoothly inside the polymer sleeve too.  I still haven't cut the hammer springs in any of them yet but I really should because they're using too much air the way they are right now I think.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

Paul I flipped a coin to see which gun I packed tomorrow, the DAR177 won over the Prod.  They're both pretty darned quiet too is why I opted for these two to flip on.  I'm going for the stealth mode in the morning, I even have a blind to sit in that's been there for a long time.  I'm thinking it's probably someone's deer blind from a year or two ago, it's even got a chair in it but I'm bringing a bucket to sit on.  I'll be using the JSB 13.43 grain in it.  I made sure the mag is full and I'll keep pellets with me too.  I'm getting about 25fpe with it which will even be capable of a raccoon if I happen to see one.  I haven't used it in quite a while and the pressure is already topped off from the last time I was thinking about using it.

Wayne, I'm going to miss that .177 the most!  If I buy a Gen 2 when they are released, it will probably be the .177.  I'm curious as to what would need to be changed to make it to where you could convert one to different calibers?  I'm thinking maybe just the bolt, barrel and TP, what do you think?

[WeaselCat]

Sent an email to SG customer service and they replied with a shipping label today. I just hope the 2nd Gen is the same minus the leaks. At least it put two squirrels in the pot while it was here.