Author Topic: Any one ever heard of the Dynamic PCP air rifle? (Read 57555 times - 1 votes)
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Taso1000 · « **Reply #180 on:** July 07, 2018, 03:37:38 PM »

By terms I meant their Satisfaction Guaranty and Easy Returns features in the items' description.

I apologize for not clarifying that in my previous post.

Taso

Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58) · « **Reply #181 on:** July 07, 2018, 03:39:47 PM »

Quote from: Taso1000 on July 07, 2018, 03:31:00 PM

Quote from: deerflyguy on July 07, 2018, 02:55:21 PM
Taso:

Shipping is pretty cut and dried, it's the "handling" charges that sometimes get you! That might include initial order picking, as well as restocking fees? Many companies charge those.
In the case of SG, you will be our "litmus" test?
Please let us know how you make out?

I wrote them via their contact options that it was shady to enforce terms that were not on their website. That is deception, fraud or whatever you want to call it.

I purchased the rifle in good faith and I didn't want to be the one to bug test or deal with a defective rifle or worse case right it off. Someone else may think that is acceptable and more power to them but not me.

We may agree or disagree on all sorts of subjects but as consumers we have rights and recourse.

I bought two Xisico Sentry's for $250 each and they functioned great, meaning they held air and fired. So saying that defects are acceptable in low priced rifles is where I will have to respectfully disagree.

I will report back with their response.

OP, I apologize for going off topic.

Thanks,

Taso

I don't consider this off topic, I think it good to know how SG is going to handle your situation. I'm with you now getting a working air rifle, especially when you lay down over $200 for one. For that matter, regardless of what you pay for something, you expect it to be fully functional when delivered. If it's not, then it's defective and the Vendor needs to step up and make it right. Isn't that part of their Satisfaction Guarantee? Pretty simple if you ask me, if it doesn't work, then I'm not satisfied!

Wayne52 · « **Reply #182 on:** July 07, 2018, 03:50:56 PM »

Here's what the regulator looks like on my SPA M16, it's above the gauges, the original one is anodized black that's in it, this is one I ordered from SPA.

Taso1000 · « **Reply #183 on:** July 07, 2018, 10:08:43 PM »

A small update from SG. The first email I received earlier stated that I will receive a refund when the merchandise from my order is processed by the returns department.

I replied and asked for clarification if I would receive a full refund. They just responded that they are refunding the package protection fee of $0.99 now to make sure I do get a full refund of $536.03. So now I wait.

I will report back the amounts refunded to my debit card and if they say anything else.

I am very relieved that they are being reasonable.

I want to stress that I am just relaying facts as they progress as a reference for future buyers. If you want to know what I told them please pm me. Up to now they are doing the right thing with me and I don't want this thread locked due to bashing and flaming. I don't foresee that happening but lets be mindful of what we say.

Thank you,

Taso

RVaughn · « **Reply #184 on:** July 07, 2018, 11:41:16 PM »

So i recieved my .177 DAR this afternoon. After giving it a good look over i found several parts and set screws that were not even hand tight. The most shocking one being the pressure tube!
After doing a partial tear down and tightening everything,
I'll say that imho the build style and quality are very similar and on par with SPA offerings.

I cant say the same for the assembly of these rifles..
Any one who purchases one of these guns should definitely lay eyes on and check all parts and fasteners before pressurizing and firing .

The mags are similar to mrod mags.

The rifles are regulated , as i laid eyes on it myself.

Mine aired up and fired as it should, although it may not of in the state i received it in.

the trigger is nicer than i expected and a somewhat crisp, light , let-off.

I didnt have enough light to chrono it today, will do so tomorrow and post numbers.

All in all, I think I'm gonna like this rifle!

deerflyguy · « **Reply #185 on:** July 07, 2018, 11:54:39 PM »

Rhett:

You say that the mags are similar to those of the M-Rod?

If so, does anybody out there whom has received their Dynamic, have an M-Rod in the same caliber, and can try them to see if they are interchangeable? It would be a great thing if they are, as M-Rod mags are everywhere, but we might have to wait months before Dynamic mags hit the marketplace?

BigMike1 · « **Reply #186 on:** July 07, 2018, 11:57:59 PM »

They are opposite DAR mag is left handed and MROD is right handed

Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58) · « **Reply #187 on:** July 08, 2018, 12:13:14 AM »

I know the Mrod Air Varmint mags are 9 round for .177 and 7 round for the .22, and the Dynamic are 13 round for the .177 and 10 round for the .22, so I suspect they are also larger than the Mrod/SPA mags.

Taso1000 · « **Reply #188 on:** July 08, 2018, 12:21:58 AM »

I caught something else about SG's return policy that I skimmed over a couple time and didn't realize what it said. The last two lines of the return policy state:

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We reserve the right to update our return policy at any time and without prior notice by posting the revised version on our site. These changes will be effective as of the date we post the revised version on our site.

The last one is the one I passed over. It states that any changes in the return policy will be effective as of the date they post the revised version on the website.

So to put it mildly, the person that told tracker1955 that the new no returns policy on airguns was already in effect was full of.... misinformation.

Taso

TheSaint · « **Reply #189 on:** July 08, 2018, 01:01:55 AM »

Was gonna ask if anyone who's had their regulator out noted any markings on it. Mine had a Sharpied 145. If that's the case, these guns drop off the reg at a little over 2000psi. Or it could have just been a part number. Who knows...

deerflyguy · « **Reply #190 on:** July 08, 2018, 01:04:05 AM »

Yes, Taso, I saw that, too, and decided to keep that information in my back pocket for possible personal use, if things go bad?
As for right now, given the many points of discussion we all have had herein, IMHO, that point is the ONLY one that SG is guilty of doing incorrectly - so far!
Other than that, they have posted their policies in meticulous detail, and it is our responsibility to know what their rules of business are before we place an order.
In every instance that we have spoken herein, those who have ordered these guns have had their orders promptly shipped, and nobody has reported seeing any external physical damages to their guns even if we might have liked to have seen a bit more packaging protection inside the outside shipping box. SG has also sent confirmation emails for the initial order, and when shipped, along with tracking information though Fedex. Many companies leave you hanging for that information.
I'm for sitting quietly and allowing the dust to settle on this new air gun before going off half cocked and dissing SG until dissing is actually warranted. I don't think it has reached that point yet?
Likewise, I don't think this gun is any different than any other air gun that we might buy, except maybe that the manufacturer could use a better, more intense, quality control during assembly? In fact, these guns are getting a pretty good rap for features and accuracy vs price point, as early reviews seem to support!
Just sayin'............

Taso1000 · « **Reply #191 on:** July 08, 2018, 01:25:42 AM »

Bill,

We are in agreement that the denial of the air rifle return was SG's only mistake. I have no complaints with anything else.

Taso

Wayne52 · « **Reply #192 on:** July 08, 2018, 03:26:19 AM »

It's definitely different than my SPA M16. If it's a monblock design it's much different then my SPA M16. It looks like a hybrid between the lower and higher end SPA's

I'm really curious now because these very well could end up being nice inexpensive guns(especially for the tinkerer's). These guns could have been built in the Snowpeak factory by the looks of it. I'm surprised you didn't show a pic of the stock itself Rhett, that in itself was one of the main things about this gun that really caught my eye.

Rob M · « **Reply #193 on:** July 08, 2018, 11:27:32 AM »

Quote from: RVaughn on July 07, 2018, 11:41:16 PM

So i recieved my .177 DAR this afternoon. After giving it a good look over i found several parts and set screws that were not even hand tight. The most shocking one being the pressure tube!
After doing a partial tear down and tightening everything,
I'll say that imho the build style and quality are very similar and on par with SPA offerings.

I cant say the same for the assembly of these rifles..
Any one who purchases one of these guns should definitely lay eyes on and check all parts and fasteners before pressurizing and firing .

The mags are similar to mrod mags.

The rifles are regulated , as i laid eyes on it myself.

Mine aired up and fired as it should, although it may not of in the state i received it in.

the trigger is nicer than i expected and a somewhat crisp, light , let-off.

I didnt have enough light to chrono it today, will do so tomorrow and post numbers.

All in all, I think I'm gonna like this rifle!

the action looks awesome.. Looks like a modded QB trigger that's been powder coated.

RVaughn · « **Reply #194 on:** July 08, 2018, 03:55:17 PM »

So , i got to shoot some groups and chrono today.

It seems to really like the jsb monsters, atleast at 20yds.
See pics. ( i haven't even cleaned the barrel yet! )

Oh and took a couple stock pics for ya Wayne..

RVaughn · « **Reply #195 on:** July 08, 2018, 04:02:57 PM »

Ok, so the stock pics after resizing dont show alot of detail so heres a couple more that are a little better res.

Well the other one is as big a pic as the site will allow.

Wayne52 · « **Reply #196 on:** July 08, 2018, 04:13:58 PM »

That stock is really looking good Rhett, can't wait to get mine, they are a nice looking rifle. I was just doing some chrono tests with my Mrod .25, looks like that MDS hammer ain't gonna get it(not heavy enough) now all I need to do is locate my stock hammer, been looking all over for it.

BigMike1 · « **Reply #197 on:** July 08, 2018, 06:43:19 PM »

Good news mine held air over night..

Bentong · « **Reply #198 on:** July 08, 2018, 07:37:32 PM »

Quote from: RVaughn on July 08, 2018, 04:02:57 PM

Ok, so the stock pics after resizing dont show alot of detail so heres a couple more that are a little better res.

Well the other one is as big a pic as the site will allow.

Nice looking..thanks for the actual photo of DAR.👍

Gertrude · « **Reply #199 on:** July 09, 2018, 02:37:39 AM »

Does anyone have numbers for a .25 cal ?
Shot strings (with pressure used per shot), Chrony with pellet weights ?
Groups at 50-75-100 yds ?

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Any one ever heard of the Dynamic PCP air rifle?

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