Any one ever heard of the Dynamic PCP air rifle?

[Wayne52]

Well I went and did it.

[Wayne52]

Probably the main reason I ordered now is because how long will the walnut stock deal last, plus I've got a ton of .25 cal pellets now anyway.
I molded up a box full of them yesterday, sorting is always fun but I didn't get that many rejects.

Plenty of lead


and plenty of pellets

[TheSaint]

Got mine this morning. .22. A few things: The barrel was filthy. I mean like Walmart springer filthy. The rifle took 3000psi. At 10 yards, with H&N FTT 5.53, 54 and 55 gave me dime sized groups. It also pings like a Sonar. Stretch that to 30, and they were all over the place. Lots of keyholes. Switched to CPUM's. No more keyholes, but flyers galore. Tried JSB 16's, same thing. I'm getting 40 shots from 3000 down to 1000. Not impressed. Not even sure these things are regulated, but being as I own it, it looks like I'm about to find out. It's headed to the bench after lunch and a Xanax, as I'm more than slightly annoyed with myself for buying this thing on impulse...More to follow, and I'll be following this thread closely to see how everybody else fairs.

[TheSaint]

Found it. Pellets are clipping the exit of the shroud ( it's drilled slightly off center) and what passes for the internal baffles. It's the design. A really bad design. If I can figure out how to post pics, I'll show everybody.

[deerflyguy]

Just a small addition to details I think not yet mentioned:

- Guns arrived in good physical order, showing no damage, packaged in factory boxes within outer boxes, but no popcorn, blister packs, or paper space filler. Within factory box, guns were in form fitted foam protection.
- Guns are stocked in walnut, darkly stained, but not Minnelli quality. Not fancy grained, nonetheless nice enough. Far better than "no name" hardwood or hollow synthetic that other low priced guns come with.
- Fit and finish is acceptable.
- Although photos seem to show differently, gun barrels are NOT threaded for moderators or air strippers!
- Magazines are 10 shot for .22 cal., 10 shot for .25 cal. & 13 shot for .177 cal.
- Manuals come with each gun.
- Each gun comes with only one mag.
- One Full set of "O" rings comes with each gun.
- Guns come apparently having never been aired, manometers being pegged out at zero BAR.

I haven't aired or shot the guns, and probably won't have time to do so any time soon, so whether or not they are up to snuff internally, will have to be found out by someone else?
I see that some details are coming in now, and that they are so far not too impressive regarding accuracy, but the ball game is in the early innings, and I think that when the right pellets are mated to each gun, much better results will begin to show.
I am particularly interested in shot strings that should prove, or disprove the presence of a regulator, and, of course, tell us what to expect for economy and between fills.

~ deerflyguy

[deerflyguy]

Mike:

What caliber is your gun?
I hope your revelation is an isolated case and/or perhaps will only be characteristic in your gun?
I have heard enough so far though, for me not to become optimistic that such is the case?
Anybody ever hear the old adage......."You get what you pay for!"?

~ deerflyguy

[BigMike1]

I think we have to remember Where these guns are made !  For a 300.00 PCP Im impressed. Out of the box at 25yds with cheap crosman pellets. Its not a streamline ! Just my cents!

[Pelletina Leadinger]

Aim Sports in Ontario, CA is about 20 minute from where I live. I called them and spoke with a sales rep today. He was a little surprised and unaware that Sportsman's Guide wasn't willing to ship to California. He also said that Sportsman's Guide is only the first place to be carrying these rifles and that there will very soon be other places available to purchase. But he said he couldn't tell me just yet.(?) Can't wait to hear more about these rifles!



Pelletina,






Hatsan BT Carnivore .30 cal
Hatsan BT65 QE ,25 cal
Hatsan Bullboss .25 cal
Hatsan AT44-10s QE Long .25 cal
Hatsan AT44-10S QE .25 cal
Hatsan Flashpup .25 cal
Benjamin Marauder .25 cal
Hatsan Galatian .177 cal with Wolf LDC
Mrodair Varmint .22 cal with Wolf LDC
Diana Stormrider .22 cal
Gamo Urban .22 cal
Hatsan AT P2 .22 cal with Wolf LDC

Hatsan 135 Vortex QE .30 cal
Hatsan 125 Vortex .25 cal
Hatsan 95 Vortex QE .22 cal
Benjamin Trail NP2 .22 cal
Ruger Blackhawk Elite .177 cal (POS)
Hatsan Mod 25 .22 cal

Crosman 2240 .22 cal
Beeman P17 .177 cal
Yong Heng 110v compressor

[tracker1955]

Some good news, received two email messages from Aimsports today, they are setting me up for return shipping as they want to dissect the rifle to see why it wouldn't air up, they will then repair or replace the rifle and then return. Will know more as things happen, they needed my address for a pickup order to go out, not sure how long all this will take. Informed them of the discussion here on GTA, don't know if they will take a look or not but they at least know we're talking about the DAR rifles. I will stay in touch as things unfold.

[deerflyguy]

Glad to hear that the guys who make this gun are standing behind their product! I am also glad to know that you told them about this site and this string about their products> Unknown to me, you did these things, while i was trying to make contact with my connection there to tell him about your problem and this string, too! I was unsuccessful in making contact, as my man wasn't in today!
I'm becoming optimistic that we have a pretty good new product on the market with these guns, but like everything new, they have their glitches which will have to be worked out before our confidence level stabilizes.

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

That's encouraging news Tom.  Keep us posted, sounds like they are going to stand behind their product.  Also good to know they will arrange shipping back to them is needed.  Hopefully all will end on a positive note and you'll have an exceptional air gun when all is said and done!

[tracker1955]

Got a third email from them earlier with UPS shipping label to print, had to run to Staples for ink as my magenta was out and the printer wouldn't print the label without the new tank. Just need to attach the label and drop it off at UPS store. I'll get it on its way asap. I hope they see where I had to straighten the shroud as barrel and air tube got twisted some in shipping. I just wish companies shipping this stuff would pack them better and that the carriers would be more careful.

[Taso1000]

Good news Tom!  I will accept my two and see how it goes.  🙂

Does anyone have reports on .25 power yet?

Taso

[deerflyguy]

Tonight I spent three hours trying everything I knew to mount a scope on my new Dynamic, and I have mounted dozens of scopes in my lifetime. I have two large ammo cans full of various mounts, risers and misc. devices to be able to mount to most any situation I come across, but this Dynamic has me stumped? On the SG website, they say that the built in 10 mm mount is what they call a European mount. I didn't give it a thought and believed that certainly, my many different brands of dovetail mounts would work - but they don't! I can't tighten any given mount to the point where it doesn't slip, and I'm using a T-handle hex wrench, so I'm giving it all the tightening that anyone could give without either breaking the wrench or striping the screws.

HELP!!!!!

Any suggestions anybody?

[Rob M]

sounds like they are legit 10 mm , not 11 .. geared toward the euro market.. heres a link that may help


https://www.ebay.com/itm/One-Pair-of-Scope-Rings-Laser-Scope-Mount-for-10mm-Dovetail-Rail-Low-Profile/121995686988?hash=item1c6782744c:g:aTUAAOSwMN9XQ6Q1:sc:USPSFirstClass!76065!US!-1

[deerflyguy]

Thanks, Rob!
They aren't the style (4 screw) that I usually use, but I ordered them anyway. I hope they really are 10 mm because I'm pretty sure there's going to be a run on them very shortly when the guys get their guns and find out their generic dovetail mounts don't work!

[Wayne52]

Bill did you try the picatinny to dovetail adapters ?  I've got a brand new set around here somewhere, they seem to work fantastic on a lot of the dovetails.  They have a lot of adjustment.

[TheSaint]

I had the same issue with the scope mounting. I fixed it by cutting two lengths of stainless safety wire I had in the shop, and laid them in the dovetail channels. Worked just fine. I like to use one piece offset mounts on all my magazine fed guns, but it will work with any 3/8 (11mm) rings.

Also went ahead and tore the entire gun down. Fixed my clipping problem by drilling out all five individual aluminum baffles, and the end cap to 9/32nds. Added an O ring at the end cap side of the shroud, so no more rattles. The gun is indeed regulated, but at what pressure is unknown. No power adjuster. And no spring guide. It free floats. Also added the "bottle brush de-pinger". 1 1/4in, 4" long. Works like a charm. Shimmed up the side lever. Smooth and tight, now. Really nice. Briefly looked at the trigger assembly. Similar to, but not quite like SPA Varmint. It can be made better, but that'll have to wait til tomorrow.

Getting penny sized 10 shot groups with CPUM's now at 33yards.

[Wayne52]

I just ordered rings direct from West Lake Tactical, they were $6.95 with free shipping.

[deerflyguy]

Wow, Mike, you don't go half way, do you?
There goes the warranty! lol
I'm glad that the gun is truly regulated!
Were you able to ascertain the length of the barrel, independent of the shroud? I'm sure you had it before you when you had it torn down. They say 15"? The length of the shroud from the muzzle to the face of the magazine is 23 1/4". That would make the baffle section about 8 1/4"? Does that sound right?
Having had the gun apart, are you still convinced that it is the design that is faulty, or could it simply be sloppy workmanship?
Other than the things you have mentioned, was the gun fairly well put together in manufacturing?