Need Help picking a Springer for hunting

[SteveP-52]

With mrodair's track record and very bad B.B.Bureau rating, that's the last place I would recommend to anyone.

Only reason I mentioned it is the rave reviews that rifle has been getting on the forum from all the members that have bought one.

Me personally, I'd go with the Hatsan 95 QE .22. From PA with the GATEWAY-PYRAMYD discount code it's about $189 and free delivery, he already has a better scope than the one it comes with and it leaves $161 in his wallet. 

[Xraycer]

I've yet to try hunting in sub freezing temps, but I can vouch for the accuracy of my new Benjamin Trail NP2. I plink at a 3" steel target out to 50yd (on rested elbows). Even the included Center Point scope has very nice glass and been completely on target. I also opted for the very cool Realtree snow camo skin stock. Another plus is that it shoots cheapo CPHP very accurately for plinking and hunting purposes. Its on the longer side, but not heavy(even with CP scope) and shoulders really nicely even for my 150lb 5'6" frame. Lastly, the shroud works very well in keeping that bark down.

[Skunkarue62]

With mrodair's track record and very bad B.B.Bureau rating, that's the last place I would recommend to anyone.

Only reason I mentioned it is the rave reviews that rifle has been getting on the forum from all the members that have bought one.

Me personally, I'd go with the Hatsan 95 QE .22. From PA with the GATEWAY-PYRAMYD discount code it's about $189 and free delivery, he already has a better scope than the one it comes with and it leaves $161 in his wallet.

What is this GTA/pa code you speak of that saves you almost $200

[SteveP-52]

The GATEWAY-PYRAMYD code is a GTA members only 10% off code for Pyramyd Air. My math was a bit off but I thought they sold the rifle for $209.99. Their normal price for the Hatsan 95 QE is $219.99, with 10% off makes it $200.00 and they have free shipping for orders over $150.00.

You said you were looking for something $350.00 or less, so $350.00 - $200.00 leaves $150.00 in your wallet and with the 3-9x40 Mantis scope, you already have a better scope than the Optima 3-9x32 it comes with.

All you have to do is type GATEWAY-PYRAMYD in the coupon code box during checkout, click apply and it will take 10% off.

[Nomadic Pirate]

........"What Pcp can you get for that price cheapest one I ever saw was the maximus."........

Mrodair Airmax Varmint, comes in .22, is getting rave reviews on the forum and for $200 you get the rifle, 3 magazines and a single shot tray plus free delivery. Leaves you $150 for a hand pump and you can get one for half that on Ebay or Amazon and you still have $75 of your budgeted $350 left.

http://mrodair.com/mrodair_airmax_varmint_pcp

That's the combo I was thinking about, more powerful then a magnum springer but easy to shoot,more accurate, way lighter, with a magazine for fast follow up shots.

[Nomadic Pirate]

With mrodair's track record and very bad B.B.Bureau rating, that's the last place I would recommend to anyone.

OK then, he could get the Diana Stormrider from Pyramyd,...same rifle.

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/diana-stormrider-multi-shot-pcp-air-rifle?m=4449

[longhunter]

........"What Pcp can you get for that price cheapest one I ever saw was the maximus."........

Mrodair Airmax Varmint, comes in .22, is getting rave reviews on the forum and for $200 you get the rifle, 3 magazines and a single shot tray plus free delivery. Leaves you $150 for a hand pump and you can get one for half that on Ebay or Amazon and you still have $75 of your budgeted $350 left.

http://mrodair.com/mrodair_airmax_varmint_pcp

That's the combo I was thinking about, more powerful then a magnum springer but easy to shoot,more accurate, way lighter, with a magazine for fast follow up shots.

Forgot about the Diana / SPA. That would be a good choice. Especially since it's backed by Pyramid Air.

[shooter r]

I feel my .22 cal Benjamin Steel Eagle would do the job. With a JSB 15.89 gr. pellet chrono'd at 720 it puts out 18 foot pounds of energy. That's good for small game at a reasonable distance with proper placement.

I did install a CBR trigger (available from info on this site!) and a Bushnell 4-12X side focus scope using Burris Signature rings to center the scope to minimize the need to crank on the turrets to zero the gun. Mine had a little droop and the rings have inserts that allow for up to .040" of adjustment without using the internal adjustments on the scope.

Hunting is mostly standing free style and the accuracy and balance of the Benjamin is very good in my opinion.

Oh yea, the costs... I got the gun on sale at Cabela's for $149 with a mail in rebate for $25, so it was $124. Plus I got $20 of Cabela's dollars. Then the scope was on sale for $129 and I used my Cabela's dollars to bring it to $109. The Signature rings were $44. They do not come with different + and - inserts which cost around $16 dollars for an assortment from Brownells, but since I had a bunch of them, that was a no cost for me.

So... TOTAL COST was $277 for a 18 fpe .22 gun with a trigger pull under 2 pounds, with a 12X quality scope, in a gun that is VERY QUIET that I can shoot VERY GOOD groups at 40 yards all day long.

[Verminstalker]

+1 on the Hatsan 95 Vortex QE. You will still be in budget after buying a quality scope and a few tins of JSB or H&N pellets to get some practice with. Plus you'll have a solid rifle with a beautiful wood stock.

[Skunkarue62]

OK I have gotten suggestions from all over the place but i am not realy looking for a pcp and know what pcp ill get if i get one, which is the gamo urban .22. Right now I am looking at hatsan 95-125-87 qe vortex, umarex octane, gamo accu, and lots of other guns between the 200-300 price range in .22. I do like european springers like the 340 ntech .22 but dont want to spend the extra money on the new mount for droop compensation. I have read mixed reviews on all of these guns and realy dont want to buy a springer that i would regret the purchase later.

[longhunter]

Reviews are subjective.  The problem is that most of the people who bother to write them don't know enough about airguns, in general to be able to tell you squat.
Rick Eutsler and Kenny Cormandy are , other than a lot of GTA members, the only truly honest and knowledgeable reviewers out there.
The thing about the GTA is, we, most of us anyway, own and shoot a LOT of different guns. Our collective knowledge base is second to none.
Although we all have differing opinions on what is " best ", we all agree on one thing, we will never steer another member wrong.
Gump Isreal and I are in agreement,  probably the best hunting springer, hands down, is the Diana 48/52. But, with your budget constraints,  the Hatsan 95 is probably the best bet. They're wood and steel, and they're built like a tank. Maybe I got lucky with mine. I don't know. I also had a 125 sniper. It was a solid shooter, but, I couldn't warm up to the quattro trigger in combination with the straight pistol grip. Just too unnatural.
In the end, the choice is yours. All we can do is suggest.

[gamoshooter]

 

 This might be up your springer alley 😎😎

Ships with lockdown droop compensating scope mount and rws a/o scope that is in fact useable

I mounted mine on my daisy 880 but feel it would do fine on the 34 Classic

My 34 classic shoots fantastic to 35 yds and is a great all around .22 springer  little heavy but not much else to complain about with the 34  and it has a great trigger right out of box

Gamoshooter

[A.K.A. Tommy Boy]

John :      You may want to take a look at this one. I just received this one in 22 cal.  It shot well, right out of the box ( after barrel clean-up). My wife got this for me on sale at PA. I think AGD has them too. It is a good hunting type gun but it is Not a Looker with a Walnut Stock. The open sights are all metal and no plastic. The muzzle break unscrews for a threaded barrel. The gun comes un-scoped and weighs about 7 Lbs. It handles well in heavy cover and the Clean Break Trigger is a big improvement over past Crosman triggers. I just took a squirrel with it today. It was 18 degrees out this morning. I shot the squirrel out of a tree at about 30 yards. It was "Lights Out & Dead Right There" on the squirrel with one shot to the lower chest. This would be a good Field Grade Hunting gun but Not a Show Gun. This one has the NP #2 Gas Ram in it and cocks fairly easy,  it Hits Hard and Shoots Straight. No Barrel Droop at all. I just got the gun 2 days ago. I have only shot about 30 shots thru this gun. It is not broken in yet and it already shot a dime sized grout at 25 yards  The gun's shot groups may improve even more as it gets broken in.   See my Hunting Posts in the Hunting Gate for more info.   This may not be what you had in mind but it might be worth a look and the Price is Right.  $159.95 and Free Shipping.    Type in GATEWAY-PYRAMYD for the GTA Discount.

Best Wishes and Good Luck - Tom         

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[Nomadic Pirate]

OK then, no PCP ?

...Benjaming NP2 .22

Here is what I did with mine.

https://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=105940.0

[Skunkarue62]

Reviews are subjective.  The problem is that most of the people who bother to write them don't know enough about airguns, in general to be able to tell you squat.
Rick Eutsler and Kenny Cormandy are , other than a lot of GTA members, the only truly honest and knowledgeable reviewers out there.
The thing about the GTA is, we, most of us anyway, own and shoot a LOT of different guns. Our collective knowledge base is second to none.
Although we all have differing opinions on what is " best ", we all agree on one thing, we will never steer another member wrong.
Gump Isreal and I are in agreement,  probably the best hunting springer, hands down, is the Diana 48/52. But, with your budget constraints,  the Hatsan 95 is probably the best bet. They're wood and steel, and they're built like a tank. Maybe I got lucky with mine. I don't know. I also had a 125 sniper. It was a solid shooter, but, I couldn't warm up to the quattro trigger in combination with the straight pistol grip. Just too unnatural.
In the end, the choice is yours. All we can do is suggest.

How would an res 48 or 34 preform in the cold, sub 32 degrees, given that they are not gas ram

[longhunter]

I'm out in the woods in temps down to 15 to 20 degrees. Mind you, I've never chronographed it in those temps, but, I've yet to notice any appreciable difference in the way it shoots. Neither have the squirrels.
I usually switch off between the 48, 95, and the maximus. Occasionally I take one of the antiques for a walk, as well.

[Skunkarue62]

I'm out in the woods in temps down to 15 to 20 degrees. Mind you, I've never chronographed it in those temps, but, I've yet to notice any appreciable difference in the way it shoots. Neither have the squirrels.
I usually switch off between the 48, 95, and the maximus. Occasionally I take one of the antiques for a walk, as well.

ok so they arnt greatly effected by the cold maybe i will look into the 48 as well since it doesn't have droop

[Xraycer]

realy dont want to buy a springer that i would regret the purchase later.

I think this goes without saying...............from everyone

I have an 18yo Diana 48, and it is a fantastic springer of fantastic quality. However, it is a very heavy gun, so this is something to consider if you plan to carry it into the woods for hours at a time.

Personally, I think that barrel droop is over-hyped. While it obviously does exist, it isn't as prevalent as one would assume.

[Sfttailrdr46]

Another thing to consider is that to undroop an unshrouded barrel like the RWS Diana D34 is easily corrected and the process is well documented on threads in our library. One of our members here does it with most of his break barrel springers.

[TF89]

Not to take away from the thread, dang Tom, that is some fine shooting.