My new .25 SPA M16 (Air Max Dominator) thread... :-)

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Wow, looks like y'all been chuggin' right along with this thread without me, ha ha!

Hey, Dan, I looove my .25 Dominator, just wish it was priced more appropriately.

Wayne, my guess is that the higher-than-justifiable price has kept sales on these babies low..

Just got my Yong Heng set up and running, so I'll be giving my Dom a lot more attention in the near future, believe me! I have a Rocker1 husher ready to install, so no worries about the weak factory LDC..

:-) chickie

[Gear_Junkie]

Does anyone know if there is an adapter available where you could install the Weihrauch moderator on the M16?

Also, to those of you who have owned the gun for awhile, how has the trigger broken in?  Can it be adjusted light and crisp to begin with, or does it need some breaking in?

Thanks!

[Ironman482]

Anyone know when they'll have the P15 available?

I got mine late August from mrodair don't know if their in stock now

[WesBob]

Deleted, I misread above post, apologies ☺️
The p15 is in stock in 22 and 25 calibre for $599
http://yhst-139878093962642.stores.yahoo.net/newitiwa20ai.html

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Zack,

PM Rocker1, he makes the adaptor you want...

:-) chickie

[Gear_Junkie]

Zack,

PM Rocker1, he makes the adaptor you want...

:-) chickie

Thanks for the tip!

[Vee3]

is this the same gun ?  I can't understand what he is saying but the gun looks nice .....it looks to be the same as the Diana outlaw that AOA has also...

Yes, same M16. He says a few interesting things:

1. His came with a wrench to remove the gauge. (none of my SPA guns came with one).

2. The barrels are German made (I don't think so).

3. Magazines are compatible with M16, M22 and M11 (good to know, if you intend to get one of the other rifles).

I shot an M11 the other day and was impressed with the quality and operation of the mags. They're only $10 if you buy them direct from SPA.

[Dan H]

Wow, looks like y'all been chuggin' right along with this thread without me, ha ha!

Hey, Dan, I looove my .25 Dominator, just wish it was priced more appropriately.

Wayne, my guess is that the higher-than-justifiable price has kept sales on these babies low..

Just got my Yong Heng set up and running, so I'll be giving my Dom a lot more attention in the near future, believe me! I have a Rocker1 husher ready to install, so no worries about the weak factory LDC..

:-) chickie

Hi chickie ,... ya know what I agree with the cheaper price .... I got my bullboss for $399 with german steel barrel shoots inside a dime at 50 yards action on my gun works perfect ... hatsan's are a bit on the heavy side built like a tank shouldered the gun feels  lighter than my career MK300 which is the same weight as the dominator ... I really do not think the Chinese made dominator gun that has a lot lower power in .25 than  the bull boss... should sell for more .. both guns are on sale price ....

another thing mrodair needs a better web site with full specs on the guns ! ... i mean  they list almost no tech info at all ... I guess maybe AOA site might have enough on the Diana version/ clone of this gun ... back about 2 years ago I tried to get ahold of mrodair to get some info on the guns ... no response to emails or phone calls... so of course I did not buy from them , and AOA does not instill confidence ...a lot of people have had problems with them also ....might just have to wait for pyramid air /airgun depot to offer this gun possibly ....

[Gear_Junkie]

another thing mrodair needs a better web site with full specs on the guns ! ... i mean  they list almost no tech info at all ... I guess maybe AOA site might have enough on the Diana version/ clone of this gun ... back about 2 years ago I tried to get ahold of mrodair to get some info on the guns ... no response to emails or phone calls... so of course I did not buy from them , and AOA does not instill confidence ...a lot of people have had problems with them also ....might just have to wait for pyramid air /airgun depot to offer this gun possibly ....

I'm waiting for the same thing as you, for the same reasons as you.  I would have bought from Krale, as I've had only excellent service from them in purchasing 6 guns.  But the exchange rate is brutal right now at 20%.  Hopefully PA will get the Outlaw/M16.

[Dan H]

another thing mrodair needs a better web site with full specs on the guns ! ... i mean  they list almost no tech info at all ... I guess maybe AOA site might have enough on the Diana version/ clone of this gun ... back about 2 years ago I tried to get ahold of mrodair to get some info on the guns ... no response to emails or phone calls... so of course I did not buy from them , and AOA does not instill confidence ...a lot of people have had problems with them also ....might just have to wait for pyramid air /airgun depot to offer this gun possibly ....

I'm waiting for the same thing as you, for the same reasons as you.  I would have bought from Krale, as I've had only excellent service from them in purchasing 6 guns.  But the exchange rate is brutal right now at 20%.  Hopefully PA will get the Outlaw/M16.

or maybe hope field supply carries them ... puts um on special at $325     or less ! 

Nevada city / Grass Valley  I have a bunch of relatives that live in your area ....very nice place ....

[Gear_Junkie]

Nevada city / Grass Valley  I have a bunch of relatives that live in your area ....very nice place ....

Thanks, I like it!

[Wayne52]

The Airmax Dominator does come with a gauge wrench and it works on all three of my SPA guns, the PP700, PR900W(Varmint .22) and of course the Dominator.

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One star?

I see somebody rated my thread at One Star, ha ha!

Y'all'z brutal, yow!

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

One star?

I see somebody rated my thread at One Star, ha ha!

Y'all'z brutal, yow!

LOL!  Tough crowd!   

[Dan H]

One star?

I see somebody rated my thread at One Star, ha ha!

Y'all'z brutal, yow!

  I just rated it 5 star !  ....

Ok I went on to AOA site checked out the Diana outlaw

 6.75 lbs
18inch barrel
41.5 long
38 fpe

fine German beach wood {from China  } stock stained with china fine walnut 

here is the rest of their info from AOA :

The Diana company has a reputation for building some of the highest quality, most solidly made, precision airguns in the last 100 years. The new management team at Diana recognizes the companies fine tradition of quality and value and are dedicated that any new products maintain this fine tradition. The new Outlaw is a PCP air rifle in the Sport Line from Diana. The Outlaw is an impressive sporting precharged pneumatic air rifle that delivers levels of performance and features at a very affordable price. The Outlaw sports an easy side-lever cocking and loading system that cycles the multi-shot magazine and sets the adjustable two-stage trigger. Very good accuracy is provided by a special barrel and breech system and velocity is controlled by a precision air regulator. The Outlaw's regulated action provided very impressive consistency and shots per fill off the air cylinder in our testing. A color coded pressure gauge displays the state of air charge and the rifle includes a dust cover probe style filling . The Diana Outlaw's action is fitted into a walnut-stained German beech stock with a  comfortable soft rubber butt pad. When firing the Outlaw the shooter will delight in the very quiet report that is achieved from the full length shroud and moderated barrel package. Servicing is minimal with only a required drop of lubricant on the side lever every 2000 shots. Cleaning of the air rifle's rifled barrel is so easy it will shock the new owner. One simply unscrews the barrel from the breech for full removal. This allows for cleaning from the breech and inspection as well. The new Diana Outlaw is suited for target or field duty with a trigger block safety and a one-year warranty. The Diana Goddess of old would gladly trade in her bow and arrow for the new Outlaw!

[Wayne52]

Dan I need to get me a shipping scale so I can start weighing my guns, I figured it was about 6 1/2 lbs without the scope but Diana probably did weigh one so it's probably they weight they gave

[Dan H]

Dan I need to get me a shipping scale so I can start weighing my guns, I figured it was about 6 1/2 lbs without the scope but Diana probably did weigh one so it's probably they weight they gave

I got to say you have proved the design to be a reliable one with the 2500 shots you have put threw it ... I would like to get 1 in .25 ... or better yet a .30 cal  ... my .30 carnivore hits like a 22lr on my spinning metal targets ..SMACK !  ... big difference from the .25 ... ya if they came out with a .30 real close to same weight I don't think I could resist .... 

[avator]

One star?

I see somebody rated my thread at One Star, ha ha!

Y'all'z brutal, yow!

  I just rated it 5 star !  ....

Ok I went on to AOA site checked out the Diana outlaw

 6.75 lbs
18inch barrel
41.5 long
38 fpe

fine German beach wood {from China  } stock stained with china fine walnut 

here is the rest of their info from AOA :

The Diana company has a reputation for building some of the highest quality, most solidly made, precision airguns in the last 100 years. The new management team at Diana recognizes the companies fine tradition of quality and value and are dedicated that any new products maintain this fine tradition. The new Outlaw is a PCP air rifle in the Sport Line from Diana. The Outlaw is an impressive sporting precharged pneumatic air rifle that delivers levels of performance and features at a very affordable price. The Outlaw sports an easy side-lever cocking and loading system that cycles the multi-shot magazine and sets the adjustable two-stage trigger. Very good accuracy is provided by a special barrel and breech system and velocity is controlled by a precision air regulator. The Outlaw's regulated action provided very impressive consistency and shots per fill off the air cylinder in our testing. A color coded pressure gauge displays the state of air charge and the rifle includes a dust cover probe style filling . The Diana Outlaw's action is fitted into a walnut-stained German beech stock with a  comfortable soft rubber butt pad. When firing the Outlaw the shooter will delight in the very quiet report that is achieved from the full length shroud and moderated barrel package. Servicing is minimal with only a required drop of lubricant on the side lever every 2000 shots. Cleaning of the air rifle's rifled barrel is so easy it will shock the new owner. One simply unscrews the barrel from the breech for full removal. This allows for cleaning from the breech and inspection as well. The new Diana Outlaw is suited for target or field duty with a trigger block safety and a one-year warranty. The Diana Goddess of old would gladly trade in her bow and arrow for the new Outlaw!

Hoodwinked.... bamboozled... flim flamed.

[Wayne52]

This was the first chrony test I did with JSB18.13's


This is the last shot string that I did with it and I was happy with the improvement just from being broken in. I haven't shot at all except for when I'm out hunting since and it's still working fine.
I did have to take this gun apart about a hundred rounds ago because it started leaking, I suspect it was the gauge o ring because it was really swollen and very loose so I replaced that and the fill probe o ring as well (it looked like it should be replace by squared seating marks on the o ring.

[Dan H]

This was the first chrony test I did with JSB18.13's


This is the last shot string that I did with it and I was happy with the improvement just from being broken in. I haven't shot at all except for when I'm out hunting since and it's still working fine.
I did have to take this gun apart about a hundred rounds ago because it started leaking, I suspect it was the gauge o ring because it was really swollen and very loose so I replaced that and the fill probe o ring as well (it looked like it should be replace by squared seating marks on the o ring.

those pesky gauge orings have got me before also ... Korean guns it happened to me on ...