My new .25 SPA M16 (Air Max Dominator) thread... :-)

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Today I placed the order for a new .25 SPA M16 from Mrodair.com, branded as the "Air Max Dominator".

I am really, really stoked about this rifle!

I already own 2 Varmints and 2 CP-1Ms, and I am very much a believer in the value and potential of these guns. First off, they may not be exactly Air Arms build-quality, but at a glance, they are very close. Performance has been excellent on all 4 of my SPAs so far, right outta the box, and they are actually very easy to work on.

The Dominator is a 5 lb PCP that delivers 46 fpe in a multishot .25. What's not to love?

A sling, a light scope, and a few magazines, and I am in the woods all day, without worry about how far or how big or how many, no worries at all, just me an' plenty enough gun for just about anything...

I like that! 

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

I'm interested in hearing how you think it stacks up next to the Hatsan AT44.  The synthetic stock AT44 is a bit cheaper on clearance, but I don't think that was available in .25.  The Dominator sure is a nice looking rifle!

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I'm interested in hearing how you think it stacks up next to the Hatsan AT44.  The synthetic stock AT44 is a bit cheaper on clearance, but I don't think that was available in .25.  The Dominator sure is a nice looking rifle!

I've been describing the Dominator as an AT-44 in a 5 pound, wooden-stocked carbine, lol..

It will be very interesting to see how it compares directly to my .25 AT44S-10 QE, and my HW110... 

[Lmgunner13]

I'm interested in hearing how you think it stacks up next to the Hatsan AT44.  The synthetic stock AT44 is a bit cheaper on clearance, but I don't think that was available in .25.  The Dominator sure is a nice looking rifle!

I got my AT44S 10 QE in .25 from field supply for $299.99. Last I checked they were still available.

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I'm interested in hearing how you think it stacks up next to the Hatsan AT44.  The synthetic stock AT44 is a bit cheaper on clearance, but I don't think that was available in .25.  The Dominator sure is a nice looking rifle!

I got my AT44S 10 QE in .25 from field supply for $299.99. Last I checked they were still available.

Don't tempt me, ha ha! Still perhaps the best value PCP deal of the year, right after the Varmint...

[Rat Sniper (AKA: PaulT58)]

I'm interested in hearing how you think it stacks up next to the Hatsan AT44.  The synthetic stock AT44 is a bit cheaper on clearance, but I don't think that was available in .25.  The Dominator sure is a nice looking rifle!

I got my AT44S 10 QE in .25 from field supply for $299.99. Last I checked they were still available.

Nope, just .177!  If I'm going to get a AG of that caliber, it's going to be in .25 Caliber!  LOL!

I'll have to keep checking to see if they get more in .25, I could be easily swayed...

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I'm interested in hearing how you think it stacks up next to the Hatsan AT44.  The synthetic stock AT44 is a bit cheaper on clearance, but I don't think that was available in .25.  The Dominator sure is a nice looking rifle!

I got my AT44S 10 QE in .25 from field supply for $299.99. Last I checked they were still available.

Nope, just .177!  If I'm going to get a AG of that caliber, it's going to be in .25 Caliber!  LOL!

I'll have to keep checking to see if they get more in .25, I could be easily swayed...

Yup, I agree completely, this is a rugged gun, it almost wants to be more powerful, not less. In .25, she's amazing. I'll make mine the most powerful air gun I own over the winter, and mount it on a bipod. Until then, I'll be carrying a .25 Dominator that does all the same stuff, but at about 5/8ths the weight, with great balance, and superb pointability, and all the same power. Hopefully .25 Predators will fit the Dominator magazines, that would be great. My other SPA guns seem to thrive on a JSB and Predator diet, so there's always the hope, fingers crossed!

[kzz1kaw]

The hatsan at44 is a great all around gun to have in anyone's collection. I own three variants of the gun😎

[shultz]

I have one on order in .22 myself.

I really hope the 5lb weight is accurate. Artemis has the weight listed as 3000g, about 6.5lb. Looking at other website's you see either 5lb or 3000g listed for the M16...won't know for sure what # is right until I get mine I guess.

3 reasons I bought this gun over other similar offerings. Weight, side lever cocking and regulated. with a lighter scope, this should make a fine carry rifle. Even if its 6.5lb, with a light scope figure under 7.5lb. That's over 2lb lighter than my Mrods and 5lb lighter than the Gladius(or the PIG as I call it!).

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Shultz,

I'm with you on the weight, I'm also not 100% sure, but either way, it's all good.

[shultz]

Yep, even if it's 6.5lb, that's lighter than most anything else in the class. Heck, it will still be lighter than most of them with a scope mounted

Assuming it shoots straight, ends up around 7.5lb W/scope I'll be happy.

Another unknown is the SPA Reg. My PP700 reg works great, the reg on my MKII, not so much. If I'm lucky, I'll go 2 outa 3 with SPA regs. If not, HUMA makes a direct replacement for the M16

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Yep, even if it's 6.5lb, that's lighter than most anything else in the class. Heck, it will still be lighter than most of them with a scope mounted

Assuming it shoots straight, ends up around 7.5lb W/scope I'll be happy.

Another unknown is the SPA Reg. My PP700 reg works great, the reg on my MKII, not so much. If I'm lucky, I'll go 2 outa 3 with SPA regs. If not, HUMA makes a direct replacement for the M16

Good to know! I can deal with a little creep in a hunting gun, within reason, but if it gets annoying, yeah, it's good to have options. I see Robert Lane does not have one for the M16, but does for all the unregged guns, it seems...

This is where I got my 2 varmint regulators:

http://laneregulators.com/shop/tuning-parts/regulators/pcp/mk8-lancet-spa

Thanks again!

[shultz]

https://www.huma-air.com/Artemis-Spa-M16-pressure-regulator

I'd rather not add cost to the gun, but, if I have to I will.


I have several lane regs, no complaints.

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Agreed!

When I am in almost $500, hoping for first tier performance from a budget gun, I'ma be ready to throw in another few hundred if that's what it takes, and it will be lessons learned and fun all along the way. These kinda projects make long, cold winter nights and weekends a blast. I'd get cabin fever without tinkering projects like these, lol.

I expect this gun to pay for itself in meat over it's lifespan, we love wild game here, even the kids. I make an awesome squirrel/rabbit andouille-style sausage that grills up very nicely! Yumm!!

[A.K.A. Tommy Boy]

Agreed!

When I am in almost $500, hoping for first tier performance from a budget gun, I'ma be ready to throw in another few hundred if that's what it takes, and it will be lessons learned and fun all along the way. These kinda projects make long, cold winter nights and weekends a blast. I'd get cabin fever without tinkering projects like these, lol.

I expect this gun to pay for itself in meat over it's lifespan, we love wild game here, even the kids. I make an awesome squirrel/rabbit andouille-style sausage that grills up very nicely! Yumm!!

                                                                     

[Wayne52]

Heck I'm happy with the regulator in my PP700S-A from Mrodair, if the one in the Dominator works as decent as that one I'll be happy, I suspect it will probably work better though, I'll find out when I get the gun.  Even Mike probably don't know how they work yet because he hasn't got one yet.  The SPA guns that I've gotten from Mike have all been good right out of the box anyway and hopefully this one will be too.

[jusanothajoe]

Yep, even if it's 6.5lb, that's lighter than most anything else in the class. Heck, it will still be lighter than most of them with a scope mounted

Assuming it shoots straight, ends up around 7.5lb W/scope I'll be happy.

Another unknown is the SPA Reg. My PP700 reg works great, the reg on my MKII, not so much. If I'm lucky, I'll go 2 outa 3 with SPA regs. If not, HUMA makes a direct replacement for the M16

Good to know! I can deal with a little creep in a hunting gun, within reason, but if it gets annoying, yeah, it's good to have options. I see Robert Lane does not have one for the M16, but does for all the unregged guns, it seems...

This is where I got my 2 varmint regulators:

http://laneregulators.com/shop/tuning-parts/regulators/pcp/mk8-lancet-spa

Thanks again!

Have you installed the regulators yet ?
If so can you give us a report ?

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Joe,

It'll be after Labor Day before I'll have a chance to get started, but I will post my progress once I get going in a fresh thread.

Gonna be fun!

:-) chickie

[KnifeMaker]

That would have to be the beefiest 5 lb. gun I've seen. Looks stout and heavier than 5 lbs.

The Maximus is a true 5 lb. AG, and it looks much lighter. Much smaller breach, smaller in dia. tube. No shroud. I just can't see it. If it is that light, I would be very afraid of just where they shaved the weight off.

Sure like the looks of it though!!! 

Knife

[cast]

I like the look of the M-16A bottle gun better but spec at 700 fps in 25.