My new .25 SPA M16 (Air Max Dominator) thread... :-)

[smythsg]

The Dominator went on it's first hunt this morning and my initial impression is... WOW this is nice!!!  (For you rim fire shooters, the M16 brought back many years of woods walking with a Marlin Model 60) The Dominator felt super light and even with the moderator on the end, just seemed shorter than any gun I have owned except the P12. Speaking of the moderator, I did fire the rifle a few times without it and there is a significant difference with it on, so it does do it's job well.

The hunt started about 8:30 am, temp 56 degrees and finished at about 1:00pm temperature about 85 degrees. In that time I covered about 4 miles, saw several deer, tons of pig tracks (but alas no pigs), almost got within range of a flock of crows but they were chasing a hawk and he flew the opposite direction from me. Not sure where all the squirrels were hiding but saw none this time. I was able to take a starling at about 40 yards and there is no question my Dominator is deadly accurate.

I also shot a couple of small cans at a lasered 93 yards and the rifle can easily reach out and touch something when you need it to. While the trigger is not too bad out of the box, I do believe it would be better with a little polishing, etc. There doesn't really seem to be a first stage/second stage, just tension the trigger and fire.

Can't wait for Mike to weigh in on some tuning tips so I can crank the power up a bit.

[Nomadic Pirate]

Hey do you feel like posting a bunch of pictures of your rifle

....How's the magazine working, did it get better ?

[smythsg]

Manny, I am happy to post pictures of the rifle, the only reason I have not is because I have been too busy adjusting and shooting it. 

I did add sling studs this afternoon so will post after I pick up the sling tomorrow. So far, I have not found any other issues, and the magazine is beginning to index better. ( I think with a little more shooting and the lube I applied it will be fine.)

I can say that I am not too fond of the FFP scope I have mounted on the rifle. I found out while in the woods this morning that the first lower crosshatch on the reticle corresponds to just under 100 yards at the 830 fps that the gun is currently shooting. Will probably replace it with a Hawke that is on one of my other two SPA rifles.

[Wayne52]

YES My Dominator in .22 is out for delivery, let the fun begin 

[USAFANG6799]

YES My Dominator in .22 is out for delivery, let the fun begin 

Wayne is this the same rifle as the M16 on the Krale website?

Matt

[Wayne52]

Yes it's the same basic rifle, I know that Mike does have options when he orders them so they might be technically a little different.  I've read that the stateside SPA guns come with bigger transfer ports in them but don't know that for sure.  I know that when I took my Varmint apart I couldn't believe the size of the transfer port, they're huge.

[USAFANG6799]

Yes it's the same basic rifle, I know that Mike does have options when he orders them so they might be technically a little different.  I've read that the stateside SPA guns come with bigger transfer ports in them but don't know that for sure.  I know that when I took my Varmint apart I couldn't believe the size of the transfer port, they're huge.

I'm wondering if the smaller transfer port is to comply with the 12FPE law?

[Wayne52]

I'm getting the rings for this scope, bought this for $68.95 on sale, this is what I'll be putting on the Dominator Friday but for the time being I'll slap on a compact 4x scope I've got just to go out and have some fun with it.

[anti-squirrel]

Yes it's the same basic rifle, I know that Mike does have options when he orders them so they might be technically a little different.  I've read that the stateside SPA guns come with bigger transfer ports in them but don't know that for sure.  I know that when I took my Varmint apart I couldn't believe the size of the transfer port, they're huge.

I'm wondering if the smaller transfer port is to comply with the 12FPE law?

Doubtful.  Krale ships worldwide.  Plus several markets in the EU are not power-restricted.

[USAFANG6799]

Yes it's the same basic rifle, I know that Mike does have options when he orders them so they might be technically a little different.  I've read that the stateside SPA guns come with bigger transfer ports in them but don't know that for sure.  I know that when I took my Varmint apart I couldn't believe the size of the transfer port, they're huge.

I'm wondering if the smaller transfer port is to comply with the 12FPE law?

Doubtful.  Krale ships worldwide.  Plus several markets in the EU are not power-restricted.

Makes perfect sense.
Price wise there doesn't appear to be any advantage to buy from Mrod Air then.

[Wayne52]

About the only place you can buy one right now.

[USAFANG6799]

https://www.krale-schietsport.nl/en/artemis-m16.html

Krale show the 22 caliber in stock which is the one I'm looking at.

[Mosin Marine]

Does anyone have a picture of the SPA M16? I cant seem to find it online.

[Mosin Marine]

https://www.krale-schietsport.nl/en/artemis-m16.html

Krale show the 22 caliber in stock which is the one I'm looking at.

Well that was crazy timing lol

[WesBob]

You'll pay quite a bit more from krale. If you add 30 euros shipping that's 520 something US$ then you will have duties to pay as well. MRODAIR is $490 shipping included.

[USAFANG6799]

You'll pay quite a bit more from krale. If you add 30 euros shipping that's 520 something US$ then you will have duties to pay as well. MRODAIR is $490 shipping included.

$56 more from Krale.

[avator]

You'll pay quite a bit more from krale. If you add 30 euros shipping that's 520 something US$ then you will have duties to pay as well. MRODAIR is $490 shipping included.

I'm sooo looking forward to seeing reviews from you guys on these guns worthy of the $500 pricetag. No doubt in my mind that the lower end offerings from SPA are worth every penny of their sub $200 ticket. I guess I expect a lot for one costing 2 and 1/2+ times what they do.

[USAFANG6799]

https://www.krale-schietsport.nl/en/artemis-m16.html

Krale show the 22 caliber in stock which is the one I'm looking at.

Well that was crazy timing lol

Timing is everything 

[USAFANG6799]

You'll pay quite a bit more from krale. If you add 30 euros shipping that's 520 something US$ then you will have duties to pay as well. MRODAIR is $490 shipping included.

I'm sooo looking forward to seeing reviews from you guys on these guns worthy of the $500 pricetag. No doubt in my mind that the lower end offerings from SPA are worth every penny of their sub $200 ticket. I guess I expect a lot for one costing 2 and 1/2+ times what they do.

Can't disagree with that.
That's why I'm just "window shopping" for now. No use doing something rash like I did with my Varmint.
Wondering if it uses the same low quality orings that are in the Varmint.

[avator]

That's part of what I'm waiting to see.