Velocity -> HW30S .22 Caliber

[SpiralGroove]

Hey guys,
Going to install a .22 Caliber barrel on my HW30S and am wondering what velocities to expect?
Right now, in .177 caliber, I'm getting around 625 fps.  Seems like I'll be around 450 fps .

Please tell me what you're getting .

[wjjones]

Hey guys,
Going to install a .22 Caliber barrel on my HW30S and am wondering what velocities to expect?
Right now, in .177 caliber, I'm getting around 625 fps.  Seems like I'll be around 450 fps .

Please tell me what you're getting .

My HW30S was getting around 480 FPS with FTT 14.66 and around 500 with JSB 13.43.  I dont think these numbers are unusual. 

FWIW, after installing the Vortech kit, this gun is shooting most pellets in the 500-550 range.  I'm just giving you numbers and I'm not saying you should buy a Vortech for your gun.

[SpiralGroove]

My HW30S was getting around 480 FPS with FTT 14.66 and around 500 with JSB 13.43.  I dont think these numbers are unusual. 

FWIW, after installing the Vortech kit, this gun is shooting most pellets in the 500-550 range.  I'm just giving you numbers and I'm not saying you should buy a Vortech for your gun.

Thanks Wj,
I just put a .22 caliber barrel on my HW50S and it went down from 815 to 615 fps.  It shoots much like my current HW30S's do in .177 caliber, absolutely no recoil and very accurate.  In .177, it was a wee bit jumpy, but not with the .22 pellet.

Just wondering how a 475 to 500 fps .22 caliber pellet shoots at 30 yards?

I've got an 6 mo. old HW30S Votech kit, but it (previously) didn't increase my velocity in .177, maybe it will be more effective in .22 caliber?

[SpiralGroove]

Hey Guys,
Another quick post.  Got my HW30S, HW50S & HW35E converted to .22 caliber.  All guns very accurate after a good barrel scrub. 

One note:
- The shot cycles of the HW30S & HW50S are smoother in .22 caliber (CPUM) vs. .177 caliber, while the HW35E shoots harsher -> constipated.  Maybe it's shorter stroke just doesn't handle the heavier pellet as well .  I was getting about 840 fps with AA 7.87.  Not sure what I'm getting yet out of the HW30S or HW35E as my crony is acting up again .

Maybe I'll try some lighter wad cutters tomorrow, but in my experience most HW's like JSB, H&N and CPL  (CPUM).

[wjjones]

My HW30S was getting around 480 FPS with FTT 14.66 and around 500 with JSB 13.43.  I dont think these numbers are unusual. 

FWIW, after installing the Vortech kit, this gun is shooting most pellets in the 500-550 range.  I'm just giving you numbers and I'm not saying you should buy a Vortech for your gun.

Thanks Wj,
I just put a .22 caliber barrel on my HW50S and it went down from 815 to 615 fps.  It shoots much like my current HW30S's do in .177 caliber, absolutely no recoil and very accurate.  In .177, it was a wee bit jumpy, but not with the .22 pellet.

Just wondering how a 475 to 500 fps .22 caliber pellet shoots at 30 yards?

I've got an 6 mo. old HW30S Votech kit, but it (previously) didn't increase my velocity in .177, maybe it will be more effective in .22 caliber?

My .22 is sighted in at 20 yards; at 30 yards it needs about 2" of holdover.  I'm okay with that.  If I needed to hit something any farther out, I'd use a different gun.  I don't get too wrapped up in the FPS of guns, especially in a moderate-power gun like the 30... Having said all that, I just went back to check my notes: I forgot that mine shot the H&N 12.6 hollow points in the 550 FPS range--that's smokin' if you ask me.  They were pretty accurate, too.  If you're looking for velocity, try those and maybe the RWS Hobbies. I don't have any FPSS figures on them, but they're about the lightest .22 pellets out there and my gun shoots them very well.
     

[byhsu]

Kirk:

Are the velocities on the hw35e in .177 caliber on a stock gun or with a tune up?

From the data i have been reading most .177 cal  hw35 are shooting  the 7.9 gr pellets around the 750~760 fps range.

Thank you

[SpiralGroove]

If you're looking for velocity, try those and maybe the RWS Hobbies.

Not trying to get max. velocity, but just to understand my options.  My HW30S shot pretty well out to 60 yards in .177 last year, sounds like that won't happen in .22 caliber .

[SpiralGroove]

Kirk:
Are the velocities on the hw35e in .177 caliber on a stock gun or with a tune up?
From the data i have been reading most .177 cal  hw35 are shooting  the 7.9 gr pellets around the 750~760 fps range.
Thank you

Tuned by me using the AGH HW35 spring + top-hat.  A wee bit jumpy.
My HW35ES tuned by me gets around 810 fps, with factory spring and 1/4" top-hat ...... very sweet shot cycle.   

[kondorthe2nd]

I get 480 fps with JSB 14.3 gr. and 529 fps with RWS hobbies (11.9 gr.).

[39M]

My HW30S was getting around 480 FPS with FTT 14.66 and around 500 with JSB 13.43.  I dont think these numbers are unusual. 

FWIW, after installing the Vortech kit, this gun is shooting most pellets in the 500-550 range.  I'm just giving you numbers and I'm not saying you should buy a Vortech for your gun.

Thanks Wj,
I just put a .22 caliber barrel on my HW50S and it went down from 815 to 615 fps.  It shoots much like my current HW30S's do in .177 caliber, absolutely no recoil and very accurate.  In .177, it was a wee bit jumpy, but not with the .22 pellet.

Just wondering how a 475 to 500 fps .22 caliber pellet shoots at 30 yards?

I've got an 6 mo. old HW30S Votech kit, but it (previously) didn't increase my velocity in .177, maybe it will be more effective in .22 caliber?

This is where I think I'd like to start my German airgun collection. And possibly end it.

That HW50s in .22 sounds just right for me.
Maybe add a spring kit to get up to 13 fpe.

[SpiralGroove]

This is where I think I'd like to start my German airgun collection. And possibly end it.
That HW50s in .22 sounds just right for me.
Maybe add a spring kit to get up to 13 fpe.

Yup, for me the HW35, HW50 and HW95 is the Weihrauch sweet spot .
Light, accurate with enough power.
The HW50S shoots at about 750/775 fps in .177 caliber.  Since I have tuned most of my guns, I maxed out the .177 at about 815/840 fps.  At that point it was a little jumpy, but not at its original 750/775 fps.  I don't think the HW50S in .22 caliber will be as smooth at 13 FPE ...... that is HW95 territory.

[SpiralGroove]

I get 480 fps with JSB 14.3 gr. and 529 fps with RWS hobbies (11.9 gr.).

Yeah, finally tested my HW30S in .22 caliber -> 14.66 grain H&N FTT 475 FPS.
I may add my HW30S Vortek kit to see if I can get 500/550 FPS, but don't want introduce a harsh shot cycle ..... we'll see.

[gilberca]

My HW30 with vortek kit is getting 513 avg velocity using HN FTT 14.66 5.53mm pellets.  Smooth shot cycle as well.

[Harpoon1]

My HW30 with vortek kit is getting 513 avg velocity using HN FTT 14.66 5.53mm pellets.  Smooth shot cycle as well.

Calvin

What piston seal are you using?

[gilberca]

I believe it's the moly piston seal the came with the vortek kit.
I didn't do any extraordinary tuning.  Just cleaned and lightly lubed
the compression tube, piston and lightly lubed the vortek spring. I replaced the breech seal with one from ARH.

[Harpoon1]

I believe it's the moly piston seal the came with the vortek kit.
I didn't do any extraordinary tuning.  Just cleaned and lightly lubed
the compression tube, piston and lightly lubed the vortek spring. I replaced the breech seal with one from ARH.

Yep, thanks. I installed those also, the VAC seal, in both of mine (.177) and saw a 20 fps increase over the factory seal.

Was just curious, thinking about getting a .22 barrel and trying to get a rough idea on what to expect.

Thanks again.

[Extreme]

     Hey Kirk, give the .22 GTO Ammo a try. My HW77K and TX200HC love this ammo. These are the only
.22 springers I own. The rest are .20 and .177 I've had GREAT ACCUARCY with this ammo and flat trajectory.

   Best of luck Brother Man

[fwbsport]

My HW30S was getting around 480 FPS with FTT 14.66 and around 500 with JSB 13.43.  I dont think these numbers are unusual. 

FWIW, after installing the Vortech kit, this gun is shooting most pellets in the 500-550 range.  I'm just giving you numbers and I'm not saying you should buy a Vortech for your gun.

Thanks Wj,
I just put a .22 caliber barrel on my HW50S and it went down from 815 to 615 fps.  It shoots much like my current HW30S's do in .177 caliber, absolutely no recoil and very accurate.  In .177, it was a wee bit jumpy, but not with the .22 pellet.

Just wondering how a 475 to 500 fps .22 caliber pellet shoots at 30 yards?

I've got an 6 mo. old HW30S Votech kit, but it (previously) didn't increase my velocity in .177, maybe it will be more effective in .22 caliber?

At 43 yards I can say from a 1973 S&W 76 G CO2 pistol (12 gr powerlets) the .22 SW Pellet (in those days shaped like a round headed straight walled wadcutter with hardly a waist) it will kill a starling with the pellet.  It was an accurate pistol.
In rifles I've used the Benjamin .22 at MV approaching 600 fps not limiting power but limiting accuracy out of that brass barrel.

In HW35E .22 chrono showed SD 1, High V 575, Low V 572, Ave 574; I shoot this at 35 yards with ease on 1.5" targets that react.

I am getting an HW30 in .22 on Monday, I think it'll be lower than my HW35E but not by enough to fail its purpose for me.  I think the 490-500 fps is about right as what was said earlier.

There is a straightshooterschart on the HW30 in .22 (along with the HW50) here:

https://www.straightshooters.com/ourtake/ourtakehw30s.html

[fwbsport]

Shoot!  I should have put this up for all interested in the HW30S.  Clear to the end points on off hand shooting v rested shooting changing point of impact.

Also, look how ACCURATE this thing is at 30 yards!

[mac]

Where do you guys get barrels from ? Might be kind of cool to try a .20 on my R7.