Who is ready to lay down the Gauntlet? New Umarex

[RAJOD]

Is this the gun to take the industry by storm?  Is this the Maurader killer?

Who here is laying down their hard cash so they can say "I'm laying down the Gauntlet!"

They are really laying down the hype on this gun.  Calling it "The Game Changer"

I have to admit for 299.00 its pretty impressive on paper and in videos.

I hope to able to try one out soon.   And no I'm not swapping my Regal for it.

https://www.umarexusa.com/products/umarex-gauntlet

I mean just watching those videos makes you want to lay down the Gauntlet.   

[jaraxle1zx]

everyone loves a good deal so if this gun shoots well, I can only see it being a hit!

[Wayne52]

I'd much rather have my Mrod any day!

[RAJOD]

I'd much rather have my Mrod any day!

Wayne I saw yer eye twitch when you typed that.  Yes, its true deep down Wayne wants to to LAY DOWN THE GAUNTLET!!!!

[Wayne52]

I'd much rather have my Mrod any day!

Wayne I saw yer eye twitch when you typed that.  Yes, its true deep down Wayne wants to to LAY DOWN THE GAUNTLET!!!!

Nahh!!! If I was going to buy an Umarex I'd be more inclined to buy the Hammer, now if that gun pans out, it would make a great deer gun

[RAJOD]

I'd much rather have my Mrod any day!

Wayne I saw yer eye twitch when you typed that.  Yes, its true deep down Wayne wants to to LAY DOWN THE GAUNTLET!!!!

Nahh!!! If I was going to buy an Umarex I'd be more inclined to buy the Hammer, now if that gun pans out, it would make a great deer gun

I see you are from Kzoo.   I heard they have a yearly air gun show there.  Have you been?   If yes will Umarex be there?    If yes then I'm going and making sure you keep the hands off the Gauntlet.   

[crazyhorse1]

Price is attractive,....but not enough to pry my hands off my regulated HPA 850 which I think Umarex copied by the way.

[anti-squirrel]

In order:
No, it won't take the industry by storm.  It's the QB-79 with a Ninja bottle and repeater breech, a shroud, and a synthetic stock.  It is certainly NOT a Marauder killer since it won't be using .25 caliber Green Mountain barrels, and I seriously doubt that the QB trigger can be tuned as nice as an MRod trigger. 

I will not be laying the money down on one.  I have a QB with repeater breech, and I prefer wood stock over synthetic.

"They" can lay down the hype and call it a game-changer, but seeing is believing.  I know the TRUE game-changer is a $200 SPA pistol, with a regulator, offers adjustable TP, trigger, and hammer spring tension as well as proven accuracy, but I'm a SPAddict.

For ~ $300 you get a nifty package with the Gauntlet.  Worth it?  I do believe so.  We'll see how the real performance out of the box is though.  The potential is there.

The Gauntlet videos I've seen don't blow me away, but I'm not easily swayed by videos.

As far as swapping a Regal for one...  They are in completely different price realms.  Might as well trade an FWB 124 for a B-3 underlever.

[RAJOD]

As far as swapping a Regal for one...  They are in completely different price realms.  Might as well trade an FWB 124 for a B-3 underlever.

I know sarcasm does not come across well on the web.   I was joking on the Regal.   

[anti-squirrel]

As far as swapping a Regal for one...  They are in completely different price realms.  Might as well trade an FWB 124 for a B-3 underlever.

I know sarcasm does not come across well on the web.   I was joking on the Regal.

Understood.  The smilies and other emoticons can help

[RAJOD]

As far as swapping a Regal for one...  They are in completely different price realms.  Might as well trade an FWB 124 for a B-3 underlever.

I know sarcasm does not come across well on the web.   I was joking on the Regal.

Understood.  The smilies and other emoticons can help

Yea but I have a dry sense of humor.  I will try to use more smiles

[Tomg]

If you look at the general public like kids,dads,moms outdoorsy people, with little to no knowledge of PCP's, triggers etc etc. I.e. everyone not on this board, and perhaps some on this board too, will be attracted to the price point of the Gauntlet, and what you get for it.
I have a real difficult time seeing this as anything but a huge success for Umarex. And yes I do think they will knock Crossman of their peerch in the budget PCP market.

Is it a better gun than the Maurauder? They dont care, the people buying one wont either.

[Rob M]

If you look at the general public like kids,dads,moms outdoorsy people, with little to no knowledge of PCP's, triggers etc etc. I.e. everyone not on this board, and perhaps some on this board too, will be attracted to the price point of the Gauntlet, and what you get for it.
I have a real difficult time seeing this as anything but a huge success for Umarex. And yes I do think they will knock Crossman of their peerch in the budget PCP market.

Is it a better gun than the Maurauder? They dont care, the people buying one wont either.

im not sure if its direct competition.. A new mrod lists at 499 on most sites , and the gauntlet is 299...I think the gaunt will sell like crazy

[Tomg]

If you look at the general public like kids,dads,moms outdoorsy people, with little to no knowledge of PCP's, triggers etc etc. I.e. everyone not on this board, and perhaps some on this board too, will be attracted to the price point of the Gauntlet, and what you get for it.
I have a real difficult time seeing this as anything but a huge success for Umarex. And yes I do think they will knock Crossman of their peerch in the budget PCP market.

Is it a better gun than the Maurauder? They dont care, the people buying one wont either.

im not sure if its direct competition.. A new mrod lists at 499 on most sites , and the gauntlet is 299...I think the gaunt will sell like crazy

It is in a sense, since Crossman was in the "budget/entry" level PCP game.

[Rob M]

true.. Obviously the gauntlet will kill alot of disco , maximus , and varmint sales..

[Tomg]

If you want my speculation on it...
Crossman isn't sleeping very well at the moment, they know what the Gauntlet is, and what is represent. I think it was one of the, if not the primary reason for them canceling certain "new" products like the regulated Marauder, since they knew they where no longer competitive on price.
In the next year or two we'll probably see nicer budget PCP's in the 300 +/- $75 coming from several companies, including Crossman.

As it grows we will likely see compressors at more normal price levels being offered as well. It's all about the market hitting its critical mass.

[RAJOD]

If you look at the general public like kids,dads,moms outdoorsy people, with little to no knowledge of PCP's, triggers etc etc. I.e. everyone not on this board, and perhaps some on this board too, will be attracted to the price point of the Gauntlet, and what you get for it.
I have a real difficult time seeing this as anything but a huge success for Umarex. And yes I do think they will knock Crossman of their peerch in the budget PCP market.

Is it a better gun than the Maurauder? They dont care, the people buying one wont either.

im not sure if its direct competition.. A new mrod lists at 499 on most sites , and the gauntlet is 299...I think the gaunt will sell like crazy

I know of at least one would be Marauder buyer that is going to lay down the Gauntlet.   Save 200.00 to put into other things.   

I have to admit I like John and Cameron from Airgun Depot, they put out some funny videos.   


I just like the saying "Laying down the Gauntlet"   Cameron took some shots in that video.

[Tomg]

If you want my speculation on it...
Crossman isn't sleeping very well at the moment, they know what the Gauntlet is, and what is represent. I think it was one of the, if not the primary reason for them canceling certain "new" products like the regulated Marauder, since they knew they where no longer competitive on price.
In the next year or two we'll probably see nicer budget PCP's in the 300 +/- $75 coming from several companies, including Crossman.

As it grows we will likely see compressors at more normal price levels being offered as well. It's all about the market hitting its critical mass.

[Rob M]

If you want my speculation on it...
Crossman isn't sleeping very well at the moment, they know what the Gauntlet is, and what is represent. I think it was one of the, if not the primary reason for them canceling certain "new" products like the regulated Marauder, since they knew they where no longer competitive on price.
In the next year or two we'll probably see nicer budget PCP's in the 300 +/- $75 coming from several companies, including Crossman.

As it grows we will likely see compressors at more normal price levels being offered as well. It's all about the market hitting its critical mass.

agreed.. were already seeing chinese compressors for the home user in the 200-300 dollar range, if they can do it , so can a lot of domestic companies.. And , although ive been alone on this , ive always thought PCP,s were way overpriced when you factor in the simplicity of design , and the amount of moving parts involved.People have long thought that the PCP tube was some kind of ubertanium not sold to the general public , along with other myths that justified the prices.

[Tomg]

Price has been high cause of relative low demand, not hype.
Now that the components and the technology to mass produce them in huge numbers, the price will drop, and drop fast.
When you produce anything in low numbers the overhead is high, the tooling cost, and manufacturing cost is handed down pr. unit produced, so if you dont produce a whole lot, that overhead is very high driving up the price.
Now there is other factors like QC, quality, sophistication, materials, and other things that also either drive up or lower the cost pr. unit.

But saying the price is high due to a hyped marked is false.