Stoeger X-20 Shrouded .22 - Advertised FPS.............Fact or Fiction.....

[brokenscope]

Hey Mr dopalgangr if you order from Pyramid use "nutnfancy" and save 10% on your order which I'm sure you already know(if posting this is not allowed please remove).  I have the X20 in .177 and love it.  Of course its my first air rifle but I have no regrets with my purchase. I got the the combo version.  The scope did go south on me but I called Stoeger and they are sending me a new scope.  Kudos to Stoeger for great customer service.

[RedFeather]

Could the silicone wafer be acting like a dead-blow hammer?  One of the ways to increase power is to keep the piston at full stroke as long as possible.  Some have tried spring-loaded counter-weights that shift forward to retard the piston's rebounding.  I'm wondering if this disk isn't just adding a skosh of preload but actually dampening the rebound?  If so, Stoeger is on to something - if (and it is a BIG if) that material can last.

BTW, what is the cocking effort listed at?  800+ fps is pretty robust for a break barrel.

PS - PyramydAir is listing all models of the X20 as available in .22 around 6/27, and on sale for $130.  Use a 10$ coupon and that's pretty inexpensive.

[Dopalgangr]

Thanks guys for the Pyramid Air tips, unfortunately I purchased it from Cabelas because I had the gift card (although it has not arrived yet)  I ended up getting the X20 combo but I think it may have been pre-mature.  I have been doing more research (I normally do a lot before I purchase something) and have been think of the nitro piston vs the spring.  I'm now looking at the CROSMAN NITRO VENOM .177.  The reviews claim that the piston is quieter than the spring and will last longer, also it can remain cocked longer with no ill effects  .  What do you guys think of that?  I may send the Stoeger back now in exchange for the Venom.  If only Stoeger put one of those Nitro Pistons in their x20 Suppressed model, then it would be real quiet.

[longislandhunter]

I have a .177 Nitro Venom and the rifle is awesome.  My rifle has the full barrel shroud and I must say it's much quieter than my springers. 

Jeff

[JJ]

Was pretty busy this week but finished up most of my projects yesterday and anxiously awaiting opening up the Stoeger X-20 Suppressor .22.....All parts on the new X-20 Suprssor .22 match up with the standard Stoeger X-20. Only exception would be the caliber and the new shrouded barrel and synthetic stock.

I measerued all part carefully and was able to even compare the Supressor parts against standard X-20.. All dimension remain the same.

But I did find something very interesting. Under the top had against the front of pist I found a 1/4" round silicone rubber disc. It was plyable with fingers. This could be the answer why the fps was higher than the norm. The silicone button pad must act like when you push a spring. I do not push springs for more power myself but other tuners and even JM sells shorter springs and push's them with delrin spacers. The only other explanation could be a different tensil strength in the newer springs. Only would know that if parts were avaiable to order and one could check standard X-20 spring part number against new X-20 Superssor spring part number.

I really do not have any post information on the X-20 Superesor due to the fact that this was a customers gun that I was converting over to gas ram. With that said I can tell you that  the ram converstion tested lower fps than with the spring. Converted X-20 Supressor was throwing lead between 765 to 800 fps depending on which pellets I used.

I will say this about the overal DB noise level with ram conversion with the X-20 Suppressor. It definetly is quite. Now minus spring and metal guides you can actually tell how quiete the muzzle noise is. Stoeger did make her quiet at the muzzle but all that metal mechanical noise over shadowed their improvement.

Over all I think that the Stoeger X-20 Suppressor is well worth the money spent. It has good power out of the box and would make for a great small game hunting air rifle..

Stoeger has done a good job on quieting the report down on the new model.

I have some pictures for you to see what makes up the Stoegers. They use all the same parts in the X-20 series air guns.

I am interested in the Stoeger X-20 Suppressor,  and the Gas piston conversion. There was mention of a kit, did any thing come of that? If not where can I find the parts?

[mikeyairgunner]

  I know this topic is dead,but I have to comment.Stoeger is coming out with a new model called the atac shrouded barrel, it has a stock similar to gamo whisper fusion and comes with a better scope as well as a gas ram and what appears to be the same shrouded barrel as the x20s has.Take a look at pyramyd-air,(3042) is the item number.

[mikeyairgunner]

    Something I don't understand and quite frankly find unacceptable is gene saw fit to censor part of the name of the gun I was talking about,it's f**kinging called the (stoeger atac suppressor),so why the *(&^ in an adult airgun forum are we getting hung up on such childish things?This is probably posted in the wrong spot,but I felt I needed to follow up the post that got edited(unnecessarily)by mein fuhrer cause I thought I was in an adult airgun forum,but apparently gene wants to pretend it's disney land.

[Geoff]

I am waiting on that ATAC Shrouded barrel that is coming out this month in 177 and in August in 22.  It has a gas ram and looks pretty sweet.  Would love to see a review on that model.